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B_Ambuehl
12-02-2007, 09:17 PM
Everything else about this football team sux but just being able to watch JA makes the games worth watching IMO. I continue to be amazed with his domination week in and week out and his improvement from last year to this year. He's always got sacks but most of them came in bunches mainly at home games as he was adept at jumping the silent count. But this year he's getting pressure on EVERY drop back and coming off the line like a bat out of hell. Not only does he lead the NFL in sacks but he's also solid against the run. I think he's in for Dwight Freeney type money and IMO he's earning it. Thoughts?

Phobia
12-02-2007, 09:19 PM
You've obviously been reading my columns. Thanks for your support.

blueballs
12-02-2007, 09:20 PM
If Carl don't sign him quick
the pitchforks and fire will be for real

Deberg_1990
12-02-2007, 09:22 PM
Calling Mecca in.....1, 2, 3...

Count Alex's Losses
12-02-2007, 09:23 PM
It'd be nice if he showed up in the second half of a game at some point.

He drives me nuts, though. I died laughing on his TD today. On his second sack I got down on one knee and gave my own rendition of his sack dance. I'm insane.

gblowfish
12-02-2007, 09:24 PM
You can't really say he's solid against the run, he gets caught inside and has problems against bootlegs.

The Raiders ran right at him last week for big yardage, especially in the 2nd half.

He's very good, definitely All Pro, don't think he's hands down the best though. You could make arguments for other players.

Phobia
12-02-2007, 09:26 PM
It'd be nice if he showed up in the second half of a game at some point.

It turns out somebody stole his gloves today. If I find the bastard ....

He drives me nuts, though. I died laughing on his TD today. On his second sack I got down on one knee and gave my own rendition of his sack dance. I'm insane.
I hope you were wearing pants.

gblowfish
12-02-2007, 09:27 PM
It turns out somebody stole his gloves today. If I find the bastard ....
I know where you can find a picture for the "Wanted" poster...

crazycoffey
12-02-2007, 09:35 PM
YES!

and he's a better TE than Mike Vrabel...

Tribal Warfare
12-02-2007, 09:42 PM
It'd be nice if he showed up in the second half of a game at some point.

He drives me nuts, though. I died laughing on his TD today.


I did the "cowboy roundup" after the TD, that just brought a smile to my face

FAX
12-02-2007, 09:43 PM
Not only is he the best DE in the NFL, Mr. B_Ambuehl, he's also the number two wide receiver on the team.

FAX

dj56dt58
12-02-2007, 09:51 PM
I'm sorry...why is there a question mark at the end of the that?

penguinz
12-02-2007, 09:53 PM
It'd be nice if he showed up in the second half of a game at some point.

He drives me nuts, though. I died laughing on his TD today. On his second sack I got down on one knee and gave my own rendition of his sack dance. I'm insane.Not insane. Just dumb. ;)

pikesome
12-02-2007, 09:54 PM
Has Mecca been along to tell us why he's not even top 10 yet?

Simplex3
12-02-2007, 09:55 PM
You must have only been watching the first half of the games.

Demonpenz
12-02-2007, 09:55 PM
jared does fine against the run. He came in with a couple big hits today against the run.

a1na2
12-02-2007, 09:56 PM
JA has an opportunity to get there, but he's not there yet.

I did like the pass today. The first time I've seen any kind of ingenuity in the Chiefs offense.

Demonpenz
12-02-2007, 09:59 PM
I want to know many things on that touch down pass. First off was huard try to throw it as ****ing high as possible. he threw that thin straight up. Second wha tthe hell did that linebacker think was going to happen. even if jared is in there to run block he isn't going to make the tackle to the right side. Then I just have to think to myself in practice did they tell jarred how to sell the fake or do you think he was sitting there overacting because you know he is wacko. I ran that play through my mind though. Ok you aren't a guy who plays offense. you snap the ball make a block get off the block run to the corner then turn your head to pick up this sky ball. Have enough concentration to haul it in and get a cheek in bounds. i bet that play happened in fast forward as jared was playing. I just think it was insane to see a guy pick up the ball haul it in stay in bounds for a defensive player. i would like to say "he is that good of a football player" but i bet he only catches and stays in on that play 1 out of 10 times.

PriestMVP31
12-02-2007, 09:59 PM
It'd be nice if he showed up in the second half of a game at some point.

He drives me nuts, though. I died laughing on his TD today. On his second sack I got down on one knee and gave my own rendition of his sack dance. I'm insane


ROFL you are an idiot

L.A. Chieffan
12-02-2007, 10:01 PM
It'd be nice if he showed up in the second half of a game at some point.

He drives me nuts, though. I died laughing on his TD today. On his second sack I got down on one knee and gave my own rendition of his sack dance. I'm insane.

I like to dissect girls. Did you know I'm utterly insane?

BigRock
12-02-2007, 10:13 PM
You can't really say he's solid against the run, he gets caught inside and has problems against bootlegs.

The Raiders ran right at him last week for big yardage, especially in the 2nd half.
You sure you're not thinking of Tamba? Especially the statement about the game last week, I thought their big runs came almost exclusively on Tamba's side.

:shrug:

Wallcrawler
12-02-2007, 10:19 PM
If Allen is smart, he will get the hell out of KC as fast as he can. Loyalty doesnt get you rings. Ask Tony Gonzalez. I love Tony, but he was a complete fool to stay in KC when he couldve gotten out. I think he could have left twice.

Best tight end in the league, and has NEVER won a playoff game. When his career is over and he has all those accolades and no rings, he will be kicking himself in the ass for not going to a contender and getting himself a ring like Corey Dillon did. He was another guy that was the star player on a team that just couldnt get it done. Finally he leaves and gets himself a ring. Tony should do the same if he wants to win a playoff game.


I dont want that type of career for Jared Allen. I think he's awesome and Id love to see him as a Chief, but a guy with his motor and determination deserves to be on a winning team. The Chiefs have had their head up their ass for years now. They arent going to just suddenly turn it around.

He should bail into free agency and go to a team that knows what the objective in the NFL really is. A SUPERBOWL WIN. Not your goddamn bottom line, Carl.

Fairplay
12-02-2007, 10:23 PM
A year without a Santa and Rudolph is on tv tomorrow.

Mecca
12-03-2007, 03:23 AM
Calling Mecca in.....1, 2, 3...

I'm late....I was taking a nap, I was tired after the long weekend....

Anyway, people take what I say way to over the top. I said coming into this year I considered him a very good player that was a tier under the elite guys, which meant 2nd tier, I thought the same of Aaron Kampman.

This year both guys have made great strides at moving into the elite group with guys like Peppers and Umenyiora. I think if Allen and Kampman can sustain what they have done this year for 2 more years they can be the top guys 1-2. But I have a hard time moving Peppers and Freeney when they have been the guys year in and year out for 4-5 years.

But I think those are the top 5 ends in no specific order......Allen, Kampman, Umenyiora, Peppers, Freeney.....

Short Leash Hootie
12-03-2007, 03:36 AM
You must have only been watching the first half of the games.
Wow...

I'd say Tony Gonzalez, Dwayne Bowe, Derrick Johnson and Jared Allen are the only four players that are worth a damn right now for the Chiefs...

Bashing him seems a little inappropriate...

Mecca
12-03-2007, 03:38 AM
The whole defense disappears in 2nd halfs....

Short Leash Hootie
12-03-2007, 03:41 AM
the whole offense disappeared two years ago...

Mecca
12-03-2007, 03:44 AM
The Chiefs are just vastly untalented, the roster needs an enema...so does the organization in general.

Easy 6
12-03-2007, 07:20 AM
You could easily make the argument that he's #1 right now, especially if sacks are the preeminent stat to judge them by...right now he leads the pack, so yes, he's #1.

Throwing a guy like Peppers in there doesnt count, not this year...the guy has quit on his team & hasnt accomplished squat this year...if were gonna judge players by who USED to be tops, then Mark Gastineau is #1.

Without Jared, this team would...oh, i dont even wanna think about it.

Team MVP, hands down.

boogblaster
12-03-2007, 09:57 AM
Top-tier in the NFL.... damn sure MVP of Chiefs ....

Mecca
12-03-2007, 09:59 AM
You could easily make the argument that he's #1 right now, especially if sacks are the preeminent stat to judge them by...right now he leads the pack, so yes, he's #1.

Throwing a guy like Peppers in there doesnt count, not this year...the guy has quit on his team & hasnt accomplished squat this year...if were gonna judge players by who USED to be tops, then Mark Gastineau is #1.

Without Jared, this team would...oh, i dont even wanna think about it.

Team MVP, hands down.

Now that is 1 year and Peppers has had some sort of breathing problem..there's still not a team that wouldn't love to have him. He's still one of the top 5 DE's.

luv
12-03-2007, 10:07 AM
If Allen is smart, he will get the hell out of KC as fast as he can. Loyalty doesnt get you rings. Ask Tony Gonzalez. I love Tony, but he was a complete fool to stay in KC when he couldve gotten out. I think he could have left twice.

Best tight end in the league, and has NEVER won a playoff game. When his career is over and he has all those accolades and no rings, he will be kicking himself in the ass for not going to a contender and getting himself a ring like Corey Dillon did. He was another guy that was the star player on a team that just couldnt get it done. Finally he leaves and gets himself a ring. Tony should do the same if he wants to win a playoff game.


I dont want that type of career for Jared Allen. I think he's awesome and Id love to see him as a Chief, but a guy with his motor and determination deserves to be on a winning team. The Chiefs have had their head up their ass for years now. They arent going to just suddenly turn it around.

He should bail into free agency and go to a team that knows what the objective in the NFL really is. A SUPERBOWL WIN. Not your goddamn bottom line, Carl.
So we should get rid of every outstanding player that comes our way?

Mecca
12-03-2007, 10:08 AM
He's saying what he thinks Allen should personally do, not what the Chiefs organization should do.

luv
12-03-2007, 10:10 AM
He's saying what he thinks Allen should personally do, not what the Chiefs organization should do.
He's saying that he should leave. If every oustanding player did that, what kind of team would we have?

I, personally, think loyalty is a good thing. I know, I know. Woman answer.

Mecca
12-03-2007, 10:12 AM
Well, the Chiefs future isn't bright.....to a player all you can see is getting worse than getting better.

All you have to do is show the money that's what they're loyal to, unless they get like Junior Seau who is only playing to win one now.

HolmeZz
12-03-2007, 11:55 AM
JA's been the best DE in the league this season. Kampman's right up there. Osi's been good, but his overall season has been overrated due to the one 6 sack game.

Oh Snap
12-03-2007, 12:02 PM
that dude has pressure on the QB literally on every play..