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Chief Henry
12-03-2007, 03:30 PM
Do we even consider doing that ? I would HATE to see TONY G. leave KC, b ut I want him to win a RING. But I would think we could get some teams to give us two draft picks, maybe a 3rd and a 4th. What could we get for L-J. I don't know what if we could get a 2nd and 3rd for
L-J ? I don't know if we could get a 2nd and 3rd round pick for LJ now
with his injury.

Fish
12-03-2007, 03:31 PM
pssst..... they both just signed contract extensions.....

talastan
12-03-2007, 03:31 PM
Tony is up in age so his value will be diminished IMO. LJ won't be worth the trade with his contract, unless we agree to pay a portion of it. Which if Carl is in charge, then forget that happening.

CHENZ A!
12-03-2007, 03:31 PM
NEVER

GONNA

HAPPEN

.

BigMeatballDave
12-03-2007, 03:34 PM
We'd be in salary cap hell.

kcpasco
12-03-2007, 03:35 PM
Trade him to a team that can win a Superbowl, let alone a playoff win

He deserves that

ct
12-03-2007, 03:35 PM
ok, go4it, good luck w/ that

Priest4Prez
12-03-2007, 03:36 PM
Repost

dirk digler
12-03-2007, 03:38 PM
It would be next to impossible due to the salary cap hit that the Chiefs would take.

StcChief
12-03-2007, 03:43 PM
Bang your dead.

Duck Dog
12-03-2007, 03:46 PM
Unfortunately, we have LJ for the long haul. Banged up, bad attitude and all.

Tony G stays a Chief. He's ring of fame bound, I'd love to see him hang in there with us until he retires.

hawkchief
12-03-2007, 03:48 PM
You're missing the whole point as to why this organization is so incredibly fugged. We had our chance to trade LJ LAST year and blew it. We also had out chance to sign John Tait and Ryan Lilja a couple of years ago so our line woudn't be a sieve and didn't. We can't un-do Carl's fug-ups, we're going to have to wear them for a few more years.

Halfcan
12-03-2007, 04:02 PM
Gonzo and Allen are the only ones worth rooting for on this team.

Nobody wanted that dick LJ before that stoopid fat contract-he is untouchable now.

Valiant
12-03-2007, 04:28 PM
You're missing the whole point as to why this organization is so incredibly fugged. We had our chance to trade LJ LAST year and blew it. We also had out chance to sign John Tait and Ryan Lilja a couple of years ago so our line woudn't be a sieve and didn't. We can't un-do Carl's fug-ups, we're going to have to wear them for a few more years.



I agree on Lilja, but there was no way top sign Tait..

As for the thread starter.. No way in hell we can trade LJ, just signed his contract and we would be hit with it if that were to happen all at once..

As for Gonzo I know he signed a lil bit ago but not sure how long it was.. I would actually like to trade him to a team that could win the superbowl.. He deserves that, it would suck to let him go but man he needs on a good team in the playoffs..

Fruit Ninja
12-03-2007, 04:31 PM
Tony for his best interests should have just signed with another team. I think he's an awesome player and is my favorite Chief, but he made a horrible mistake.

Flustrated
12-03-2007, 04:35 PM
Even if the Chiefs had 5 first round picks and a boatload of other rounds it wouldn't help because the front office sucks. How many opportunities has Carl and his list of cronies had to get the job done? And what makes you think a bunch of draft picks would help him/them do any better?

Look, throughout the 90's we had an awsome D with shitty offense. Then we "transformed" into an awsome offense and ignored the defensive side of the ball.

Now, we are rebuilding the team with Defense in mind injecting talented players on offense that don't have an opportunity to play to win. Obviously our line stinks, but even if they were great, Herm's philosophy isn't going to get us anywhere beyond a first round playoff loss. Changes must start in the front office that's the bottom line. Carl is the only common link in the failure of the Chiefs to place a balanced team on the field.

TEX
12-03-2007, 04:38 PM
Unfortunately, we have LJ for the long haul. Banged up, bad attitude and all.

Tony G stays a Chief. He's ring of fame bound, I'd love to see him hang in there with us until he retires.


Me too. No sense trying to fix a mistake with another one.

Pestilence
12-03-2007, 04:44 PM
Who's going to eat the $25 million dollar cap hit? You?

BigRedChief
12-03-2007, 05:00 PM
Do we even consider doing that ? I would HATE to see TONY G. leave KC, b ut I want him to win a RING. But I would think we could get some teams to give us two draft picks, maybe a 3rd and a 4th. What could we get for L-J. I don't know what if we could get a 2nd and 3rd for
L-J ? I don't know if we could get a 2nd and 3rd round pick for LJ now
with his injury.
How many of these threads do we need?Jezus h christ. The die was set last off season by King Carl. We can't trade Tony G or LJ. All of their signing bonus becomes immediately due under the cap.

We can't trade them no matter how good a deal we could get. And we are not going to get a deal of any kind because they know we can't trade them without destroying the cap.

Can we get this, learn this. This is fact in the NFL 2008. You can't sign players and then trade them. This isn't baseball.

DaneMcCloud
12-03-2007, 05:18 PM
Then we "transformed" into an awsome offense and ignored the defensive side of the ball.

This is blatantly false.

The Chiefs spent the overwhelming majority of their first day draft choices on defensive players during Vermeil's tenure. The problem isn't that they "ignored" the defensive side of the ball; it's that they hired to the wrong coaches to coach the defense and those coaches failed to properly evaluate draft choices and free agents.

2001: Eric Downing
2002: Ryan Sims, Eddie Freeman
2003: Kawika Mitchell, Julian Battle
2004: Junior Siavii, Keyaron Fox
2005: Derrick Johnson, Trade for Surtain

That's nine players in 5 drafts. DJ was a solid pick. The Surtain trade hasn't panned out. The other seven players were a waste.

If the Chiefs had drafted BPA instead of chasing defensive players, this team may have better personnel to this day.

Rain Man
12-03-2007, 05:19 PM
I'm going to shoot you twice in the kneecaps for even suggesting that. Here, hold this TV and go over into my neighbor's yard.

Mr. Laz
12-03-2007, 07:14 PM
pssst..... they both just signed contract extensions.....

it's surprising how many fans don't understand this no matter how many times you tell them.

:banghead: :banghead:


the money is already spent

the horse has already left the barn

that ship has sailed

there is no going back

that bridge is burnt




once the signing bonus is spent the team ain't gonna trade them.

JohninGpt
12-03-2007, 07:28 PM
TG? Never.
LJ? If it were possible, which it's not, I'd send him packing. I kind of think of him as a delayed bust.

Programmer
12-03-2007, 07:58 PM
OK Shoot me...how about trading Tony G. and LJ to get draft picks


What do you want us to use?

9mm
40 cal
.357 ?
.44?

AK-47

12ga?

I'm sure there are some here that can accommodate your request!

20 ga?

crazycoffey
12-03-2007, 08:01 PM
OK Shoot me...how about trading Tony G. and LJ to get draft picks


What do you want us to use?

9mm
40 cal
.357 ?
.44?

AK-47

12ga?

I'm sure there are some here that can accommodate your request!

20 ga?


Let's all shoot him to death with BB guns, it'll take awhile, but it'll be very painful too.

That or my favorite, the tazer.....

Dayze
12-03-2007, 08:07 PM
Do we even consider doing that ? I would HATE to see TONY G. leave KC, b ut I want him to win a RING. But I would think we could get some teams to give us two draft picks, maybe a 3rd and a 4th. What could we get for L-J. I don't know what if we could get a 2nd and 3rd for
L-J ? I don't know if we could get a 2nd and 3rd round pick for LJ now
with his injury.
I understand how you feel; unfortunately I think that train has left the station; LJ w/ his BA contract; TG with his large contract & age.

I just hope KC can get him to a SB before he retires; or he catches on for a 1-2 yr stint on a SB bound team etc.