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the Talking Can
12-08-2007, 09:06 AM
Ok, I wanted to dip my cheap ass toe into the waters of vinyl. I got this very cheap, all-in-one turntable. It has a crappy little built in speaker, which is worthless.

http://www.numark.com/pt01

http://www.numark.com/stuff/contentmgr/files/c1482c984729334e2f950fe98f77d8b4/medium/pt01_angle_med.jpg

I just want to see if my interest in records is real before I sink any substantial cash into equipment.

So, here's my question(s):

The unit has a "master ouput (RCA)" which is a "line level output for connecting to...tape recorder, cd burner, powered speaker, or a home stereo."

Do I need a receiver with this?
Do "powered speakers" have the type of plug this needs? Usually I think of speaker wire, but this doesn't have any wire-type connections.

Normally, a setup would go turntable --> receiver --> speakers....right?

Given the price and quality of this, I'd like to just hook up some speakers. Any recommendations or experience on the low buget end of home audio?

Would a place like Best Buy have "powered speakers"?

thanks in advance for any advice...snark is understandable too

*edit*

are "powered speakers" like computer speakers?

DaFace
12-08-2007, 09:17 AM
As far as I know, there's no standard for the types of inputs on powered speakers. The cheaper ones usually have mini plug inputs for easy connection to things like iPods and computers, but the more expensive ones usually come with a variety of inputs (including RCA).

If you're looking to go the cheap route, you can get an RCA to mini cable for less than $10 at Radio Shack if nothing else. They look like this:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5284/cc39905lrbx1.jpg (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1174)

I guess if I were you, I'd go to your favorite electronics store and pick up a set of computer speakers (nearly always powered) that are high enough quality for your taste, then go buy a converter cable if you need it.

Oh, and you don't need a receiver with powered speakers.

the Talking Can
12-08-2007, 09:23 AM
As far as I know, there's no standard for the types of inputs on powered speakers. The cheaper ones usually have mini plug inputs for easy connection to things like iPods and computers, but the more expensive ones usually come with a variety of inputs (including RCA).

If you're looking to go the cheap route, you can get an RCA to mini cable for less than $10 at Radio Shack if nothing else. They look like this:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5284/cc39905lrbx1.jpg (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1174)

I guess if I were you, I'd go to your favorite electronics store and pick up a set of computer speakers (nearly always powered) that are high enough quality for your taste, then go buy a converter cable if you need it.

Oh, and you don't need a receiver with powered speakers.

Thanks, those cords like what I have/need for my plug.

"powered speaker" = computer speaker makes sense to me now...sounds like Best Buy will be the easiest and quickest solution...

i would assume that computer speakers aren't ideally designed to work with a turntable...but my standards are pretty low at the moment...

gracias

DaFace
12-08-2007, 09:26 AM
i would assume that computer speakers aren't ideally designed to work with a turntable...but my standards are pretty low at the moment...

Eh, audio is audio for the most part. If you really wanted to, you could spend a few hundred on computer speakers that would sound pretty nice with your turntable setup. Just depends on how much you're willing to spend.

Of course, I'm not sure how well Dolby 7.1 Digital Surround would work with it, so that might be overkill. ;)

the Talking Can
12-08-2007, 09:34 AM
Eh, audio is audio for the most part. If you really wanted to, you could spend a few hundred on computer speakers that would sound pretty nice with your turntable setup. Just depends on how much you're willing to spend.

Of course, I'm not sure how well Dolby 7.1 Digital Surround would work with it, so that might be overkill. ;)

yeah, I'm not trying to impress anyone...I'm going to keep it under $100...audiophiles be damned

patteeu
12-08-2007, 10:06 AM
Why not just connect it to your computer and use your computer's speakers? You could probably do that with the cable DaFace mentions. That would save you a few bucks on speakers at least.

Then, if you decide you like the vinyl sound, you could rip tunes from your albums, complete with snap crackle and pop, and listen to them on your mp3 player. There's some free software called Audacity you can use for that process.

the Talking Can
12-08-2007, 01:55 PM
Why not just connect it to your computer and use your computer's speakers? You could probably do that with the cable DaFace mentions. That would save you a few bucks on speakers at least.

Then, if you decide you like the vinyl sound, you could rip tunes from your albums, complete with snap crackle and pop, and listen to them on your mp3 player. There's some free software called Audacity you can use for that process.

i thought about that...then I remembered throwing my computer speakers out a few weeks ago...sigh

my old, old comp died, all i have is a work laptop...

but when I get new comp I will be able to hook this turntable up to it...though I mostly only listen to music at home...

Baby Lee
12-09-2007, 04:40 AM
Important to remember that 'line level' for phonos is 75 Ohm, not the 300 Ohm of other components. Need to find a receiver with a phono stage

patteeu
12-09-2007, 06:58 AM
Important to remember that 'line level' for phonos is 75 Ohm, not the 300 Ohm of other components. Need to find a receiver with a phono stage

What is the practical implication of what you just said? Will the phono blow up if you don't have a receiver or will it just sound bad or what?

BigMeatballDave
12-09-2007, 09:18 AM
Get one of these... http://www.elpj.com/main.html

Baby Lee
12-09-2007, 09:38 AM
What is the practical implication of what you just said? Will the phono blow up if you don't have a receiver or will it just sound bad or what?
To maintain sensitivity, the phono signal is carried at a much lower Ohmage. So if you plug it into a 'normal' RCA jack, you'll have to crank the volume to hear anything, and even then it'll be tinny. Plugging into the wrong jack won't de facto blow anything up, but you overburden your system if you try to listen to it. OTOH, if you plug a CD player or other player into a phono jack, you run the risk of blowing the jack and possible the amp with all the signal being transmitted.

StcChief
12-09-2007, 10:50 AM
Get one of these... http://www.elpj.com/main.html
kinda pricey....

Go find a turntable at garage sale? have a stereo reciever/amp with preamp-output to feed "line-in" on sound card.