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donkhater
07-18-2001, 07:43 AM
What do you guys think of trying to pick this guy up if he gets dumped by the Bears? I loved him in college and thought he would be a solid NFL player. While he has had accuracy issues with the Bears, he was extremly accurate in a West-Coast type offense at UCLA. Seems as if the 'O' we are installing would be a nice fit for him.

milkman
07-18-2001, 07:59 AM
It seems that, while his play has been suspect, most of his problems in Chicago stem from pesonality issues.

He lacks motivation and his teammates don't like him.

These are things that maturity and a change of scenery might cure. A good HC and OC might help, as well.

I'm not sure that Jauron isn't in over his head.

Yeah, I'd take a chance on him.
I thought he was going to be the best of the QB crop when he came out.

Cormac
07-18-2001, 08:56 AM
No thanks. I didn't like him coming out of college (don't get to see much of the west coast teams, I guess that might be why). But I also think he only got taken that high because of the QB-mania that went on in that draft. Kind of like what happened with DTs in this years draft. So many were picked that one or two got taken higher than they might have deserved. So far he has done as much for the Bears as Ryan Leaf did for the Chargers from what I can tell. I'd actually be more interested in Shane Matthews as a back-up.

Otter
07-18-2001, 09:00 AM
I'd definatly take a chance on him. His problems seem to stem from immaturity in handling his new wealth and status as opposed to lack of talent or problems with the law.

The guy has lots of talent. Love to see him in the Red & Gold.

Phobia
07-18-2001, 09:10 AM
I'm not sure about him, but I sure would like to see his g/f sitting in the bleachers.....

Cormac
07-18-2001, 09:16 AM
A young hardbody? ;)

Mark M
07-18-2001, 09:25 AM
Kphobia--
Seeing his woman in the stands (Heather Kozar, I believe ... Playmate of the year in I believe 1999. Got the issue at home) would be better than seeing him on the field, IMO.

I would be willing, however, if he signed for around the league minimum. He's got to be better than Bubby.

MM
~~Would rather have Heather's autograph than Cade's.

donkhater
07-18-2001, 09:43 AM
I remember reading a story about him in training camp his rookie year. He bet a teammate that he could throw the football into a basketball rim from the other end of the court. He did it on the first try. Says something of his accuracy.

Arm Strength? Not Brett Favre. But possesses a much better gun than Matthews or Miller.

As for his maturity, he needs to grow up, but he doesn't sound like Ryan Leaf either.

A large number of teams will check this guy out if he come available.

Phobia
07-18-2001, 09:53 AM
Yeah, it's Heather Kosar.

He "stole" her from Tim Couch after Tim introduced them. Then he proceeded to buy her a $60k car after they had been dating a month. I think Heather is from Chicago as well.

I have no idea if they are still together - this all happened in the offseason last year.

HC_Chief
07-18-2001, 09:59 AM
Cade McKnown has the tools - he just needs the chance and a positive environment.

Chicago will not dump him any time soon...

donkhater
07-18-2001, 10:03 AM
It does seem unlikely HC, but some recent articles have him on the outs up there. He has a big rookie contract. He's in his third year with some playing time so he's gotten a decent chance. Not exactly a huge hit with his team or coaching staff. I really wouldn't be surprised to see him gone. The only reason he hasn't been cut IMHO is that he was a high pick and reasonably young with skills. Akili Smith is in the same boat really.

HC_Chief
07-18-2001, 10:08 AM
Can't say he has had the opportunity to be the full-time QB...Jauron had him splitting time with Matthews(KC draft pick btw) and/or Miller.

A lot of fans and media types are calling for his head, but the coaching staff and front office have gone on record stating they weren't about to give up on their highly touted QB prospect(which cost them a high #1 and a nice chunk of change) in the forseeable future.

donkhater
07-18-2001, 10:31 AM
I don't think Shane Matthews was a KC draft pick. There was another Matthews about the same time that was KC's pick wasn't it?

donkhater
07-18-2001, 10:31 AM
I don't think Shane Matthews was a KC draft pick. There was another Matthews about the same time that was KC's pick wasn't it? Went to Jacksonville after we cut him, I believe.

Phobia
07-18-2001, 10:37 AM
Shane Matthews was a Bear draft pick and has been with them all 7 or 8 years of his career.

HC_Chief
07-18-2001, 10:37 AM
You're right... that was <i>Steve</i> Matthews (USC I believe)...

:rolleyes:

BIG_DADDY
07-18-2001, 12:12 PM
I am not so sure about him but Heather can COME on over any time she wants. I would post a few pictures of this blonde bombshell with the killer rack but I don't want to get the boot and lose my family. I know, it's a family BB, we are all god fearing respectable people here, blah, blah, blah.:rolleyes:

BIG DADDY

How about this, http://www.creamhost.com/stars/photos/heather_kozar/

***** THIS SITE IS NOT WORK SAFE, nor should it be clicked on by minor children******

Phobia
07-18-2001, 12:16 PM
For that link, one must have this one as well.

http://www.textfiles.com/sex/mormast.txt

DanT
07-18-2001, 04:15 PM
Here's what the Bears GM had to say about their QB situation on the team's official website:

Excerpted from
http://www.chicagobears.com/gameday/general.cfm?cont_id=66991
Angelo on personnel
July 17, 2001

With the Bears set to report to training camp Thursday, general manager Jerry Angelo discussed the teamís quarterback situation and other personnel matters in an exclusive interview with chicagobears.com writer Larry Mayer. The following is the second of a two-part series.

LM: Youíve said that getting the quarterback position stabilized is your greatest concern heading into camp. Is finding someone to step up at that position still your No. 1 priority?

JA: ďItís not so much finding somebody to step up. Yes, somebody has to come to the forefront, but also with that is managing the quarterback. Whoever that quarterback is, we have to manage him. Itís very hard to do in this league. Baltimore did a nice job of managing Trent Dilfer last year. Obviously by not re-signing, they didnít buy into Trent. They managed him well, and I think thatís the key to the position, is quarterback management. Thatís what Iíd like to see; whoever our quarterback is this year that we are accentuating his strengths and weíre not asking him to do things that he canít do.Ē

LM: Do you feel there is a championship-caliber quarterback on the roster right now?

JA: ďNo. Right now I donít feel there is a championship quarterback on the roster. What I want to see is a winning quarterback.Ē

LM: How much personal contact have you had with Cade McNown and what are your impressions of him?

JA: ďI think Cadeís very committed. His work ethic, from what I understand, has been exemplary. Heís very committed to being the best he can be. You are going to see the real Cade McNown this year, in terms of commitment and all those things. Hopefully heíll be able to take a step. I know our coaches feel very confident and have been very happy with the way heís progressed during his spring in terms of his commitment. I know that he still has some things to work out mechanically and heís still doing some things fundamentally that theyíre working with. But overall, his attitude has been very positive and I think it starts with that.Ē

LM: Why do you think heís failed to live up to expectations in the past?

JA: ďItís so hard for a quarterback drafted in the first round. Being in the fish bowl, the expectations are so great. Itís hard for any of them to succeed. If you look at history, I bet there are only five or six that were drafted high that are still with their original teams. Cade had a rough start, just like many of them do. I think his confidence level has been shaken, but heís a very competitive kid, more due to the fact that he didnít have success. When you donít have success, itís hard to stay confident. We feel good about him having his feet on the ground now and that step that weíre talking about, weíre hoping to see that real soon.Ē

LM: Do you have a strong feeling about who should start at quarterback and would you share that with Dick Jauron?

JA: ďI donít have a strong feeling. I canít. It would be impossible for me. If I donít think thereís a championship quarterback of the three, then how could I have a strong feeling about any one of them? I just want to make sure that whoever we go with that weíre giving him enough time to get comfortable with the first unit and that heís managed correctly.Ē

LM: You worked with Trent Dilfer in Tampa. Is there any interest in signing him?

JA: ďI like Trent. I think Trent will be a better quarterback this time around than he was even with Baltimore. History tells you Ė (Steve) Beuerlein, (Rich) Gannon, Vinny Testaverde, Trent Dilfer Ė they get better with age. But this is not the right scenario at this point because we have a three-man derby. I donít know how you could have a four-man derby. It would be impossible. Itís unrealistic because of our situation. Dickís committed to the three quarterbacks we have at present. They know the system.Ē



Former-Chiefs personnel guy Mark Hatley was the guy who spent (wasted?) #1 picks on McNown and Curtis Enis. I'm sure that Packers fans are thrilled to learn that Hatley has now landed with Green Bay. :D

Packfan
07-18-2001, 05:22 PM
He might be worth a look, but he lacks arm strength and smarts. The Chiefs and the Packers need backups so if he gets cut, chances are he would end up with either one of those teams.

DanT
07-18-2001, 06:01 PM
Here's the Packers Press Release announcing Mark Hatley's arrival to that team.

http://www.packers.com/pressbox/releases/2001/05-17.html