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Mr. Laz
12-12-2007, 03:25 PM
ok ..... so my internet provide said that my router was answering an anyomous ping when it probably shouldn't.

so i got in there and tweaked some settings

turned off wireless broadcasting (even thought it was encrypted already)

locked router down to Mac addresses

turned off wan etc


is there a website someplace that will test ping my router to see if my tweaks worked?

Dicky McElephant
12-12-2007, 03:28 PM
All I know is the website you can test your download and upload speed at.

www.speedtest.net

DaFace
12-12-2007, 03:34 PM
I guess if you want to PM me your IP I could try and ping you. :shrug:

If nothing else, I've used this page to test my firewall before:
http://www.auditmypc.com/firewall-test.asp

dtebbe
12-12-2007, 03:45 PM
Shields up

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Lzen
12-12-2007, 03:47 PM
ok ..... so my internet provide said that my router was answering an anyomous ping when it probably shouldn't.

so i got in there and tweaked some settings

turned off wireless broadcasting (even thought it was encrypted already)

locked router down to Mac addresses

turned off wan etc


is there a website someplace that will test ping my router to see if my tweaks worked?

The pings were probably from GOCHIEFS. Just go outside with a sledgehammer and when you see his car, beat the crap out of it.

penguinz
12-12-2007, 03:58 PM
turned off wireless broadcasting (even thought it was encrypted already)
This actually makes it easier to hack. ;) If you have it encrypted then do not turn off broadcasting.

Chest Rockwell
12-12-2007, 03:59 PM
The pings were probably from GOCHIEFS. Just go outside with a sledgehammer and when you see his car, beat the crap out of it.

He's been circling your block for hours...he's got something he wants to ask you.

If you start to hear "More Than Words" being played outside your house, I'd advise you arm yourself immediately.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2007, 04:01 PM
This actually makes it easier to hack. ;) If you have it encrypted then do not turn off broadcasting.
:hmmm:

i thought it it wasn't broadcasting then people wouldn't even "see" the wireless signal?

explain please

DaFace
12-12-2007, 04:27 PM
:hmmm:

i thought it it wasn't broadcasting then people wouldn't even "see" the wireless signal?

explain please

I'd be interested in this as well. I've always read that turning it off is a good thing - not a bad thing.

From TechRepublic (http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-1009_11-5876956.html):

The Service Set Identifier (SSID) is the name of your wireless network. By default, most WAPs broadcast the SSID. This makes it easy for users to find the network, as it shows up on their list of available networks on their wireless client computers. If you turn off broadcasting, users will have to know the SSID to connect. Some folks will tell you that turning off SSID broadcasting is useless because a hacker can use packet sniffing software to capture the SSID even if broadcasting is turned off. That's true, but why make it easier for them? That's like saying burglars can buy lockpicks, so locking the door is useless. Turning off broadcasting won't deter a serious hacker, but it will protect from the casual "piggybacker" (for example, a next door neighbor who notices the new network and decides to try connecting "just for fun").

penguinz
12-12-2007, 04:45 PM
If a laptop is synced to a wireless network that has the SSID broadcast disabled it constantly sends out packets looking for that SSID until it connects. If the SSID is broadcast then it knows if it is in range or not.

So if you take your laptop to paneras for lunch it is going to be flooding the airwaves with packets. These packets will include your SSID as well as your key.

Someone still has to know what they are doign and looking for but it does give this person a bigger, constant set of packets to capture and break.

sedated
12-12-2007, 04:48 PM
You might try ChiefsPlanet - Media Center Edition.com

penguinz
12-12-2007, 05:03 PM
You might try ChiefsPlanet - Media Center Edition.comYou might want to go shove your head up your own ass. ;)

Mr. Laz
12-12-2007, 05:46 PM
If a laptop is synced to a wireless network that has the SSID broadcast disabled it constantly sends out packets looking for that SSID until it connects. If the SSID is broadcast then it knows if it is in range or not.

So if you take your laptop to paneras for lunch it is going to be flooding the airwaves with packets. These packets will include your SSID as well as your key.

Someone still has to know what they are doign and looking for but it does give this person a bigger, constant set of packets to capture and break.
i see ..... so telling your laptop the default wireless internet connect is "hidden" makes the laptop a security risk.

:hmmm:


better to let your router broadcast/encrypted than to have your laptop broadcast/unencrypted?


.

DaFace
12-12-2007, 05:55 PM
If a laptop is synced to a wireless network that has the SSID broadcast disabled it constantly sends out packets looking for that SSID until it connects. If the SSID is broadcast then it knows if it is in range or not.

So if you take your laptop to paneras for lunch it is going to be flooding the airwaves with packets. These packets will include your SSID as well as your key.

Someone still has to know what they are doign and looking for but it does give this person a bigger, constant set of packets to capture and break.

I guess it just depends on your philosophy. If you hide it, apparently it makes you vulnerable to someone who is really motivated and really knowledgeable. If you don't, it makes you vulnerable to the idiot next door.

Eh, whatever. WPA's pretty tough to crack anyway.

Mr. Laz
12-12-2007, 05:58 PM
I guess it just depends on your philosophy. If you hide it, apparently it makes you vulnerable to someone who is really motivated and really knowledgeable. If you don't, it makes you vulnerable to the idiot next door.

Eh, whatever. WPA's pretty tough to crack anyway.
what kind of encryption/security does your laptop have when it's searching for a wireless signal?

that same at the router ... weaker,stronger?

kcfan82
12-12-2007, 11:28 PM
Just leave your SSID on and setup a WEP key.

Honestly noone is going to go to enough trouble to break that key to see pictures of your kids and to view your porn stash. Especially when there are so many people out there with no security at all whom are easier targets.

As a joke, my neighbor had his wireless wide open and his printer was shared out. So I connected and mapped to it and printed a document over there telling him to secure his damn router.

penguinz
12-12-2007, 11:56 PM
Just leave your SSID on and setup a WEP key.

Honestly noone is going to go to enough trouble to break that key to see pictures of your kids and to view your porn stash. Especially when there are so many people out there with no security at all whom are easier targets.

As a joke, my neighbor had his wireless wide open and his printer was shared out. So I connected and mapped to it and printed a document over there telling him to secure his damn router.DO NOT USE WEP! WPA is much more secure than WEP.

Simplex3
12-13-2007, 12:02 AM
I guess it just depends on your philosophy. If you hide it, apparently it makes you vulnerable to someone who is really motivated and really knowledgeable. If you don't, it makes you vulnerable to the idiot next door.

Eh, whatever. WPA's pretty tough to crack anyway.
If I parked in front of your house on gameday I'd by in your router by the time the Chiefs missed their first field goal.

Simplex3
12-13-2007, 12:03 AM
DO NOT USE WEP! WPA is much more secure than WEP.
Shhh. I love guys with WEP encryption. I can damn near crack it while driving past their house.

penguinz
12-13-2007, 12:09 AM
what kind of encryption/security does your laptop have when it's searching for a wireless signal?

that same at the router ... weaker,stronger?It will be searching for the router it was linked to so it will be the same security key strength. It does not matter how strong the security key is. If a person knows what they are doing and they have enough samples they can break it pretty easily.

penguinz
12-13-2007, 12:10 AM
Shhh. I love guys with WEP encryption. I can damn near crack it while driving past their house.
:)

kcfan82
12-13-2007, 07:41 AM
Shhh. I love guys with WEP encryption. I can damn near crack it while driving past their house.

I know, every day I live in fear that someone is going to gain access to my family pictures and possibly observe my browsing habits :)

I don't keep all my credit card numbers in a word doc on my PC, and I clear my website login cache with CC Cleaner ;)

Mr. Laz
12-13-2007, 12:08 PM
Shhh. I love guys with WEP encryption. I can damn near crack it while driving past their house.
well that's not very nice :harumph:

dtebbe
12-13-2007, 01:28 PM
Shhh. I love guys with WEP encryption. I can damn near crack it while driving past their house.

That's great, but how long will it take you to figure out the authorized MAC addy?

DT

Calcountry
12-13-2007, 02:56 PM
He's been circling your block for hours...he's got something he wants to ask you.

If you start to hear "More Than Words" being played outside your house, I'd advise you arm yourself immediately.What? You have been there, and done that with him eh?

Calcountry
12-13-2007, 02:58 PM
You might want to go shove your head up your own ass. ;)ROFL Wow, this place has really let loose today. Kind of like, we know our team sucks so move on and have fun with our lives.

Chest Rockwell
12-13-2007, 03:50 PM
What? You have been there, and done that with him eh?

Fortunately, no...just read enough around here to know the warning signs. Read 'em, know 'em, watch for 'em...it could save your behymen.