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KILLER_CLOWN
12-13-2007, 11:33 PM
This Florida based Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA crash landed on September 24, 2007 after it ran out of fuel over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula it had a cargo of several tons of Cocaine on board now documents have turned up on both sides of the Atlantic that link this Cocaine Smuggling Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA that crashed in Mexico to the CIA who used it on at least 3 rendition flights from Europe and the USA to Guantanamo's infamous torture chambers between 2003 to 2005.

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anyone see this? is this bs?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/12/19210/608/933/420107

Saggysack
12-13-2007, 11:44 PM
Whaddya expect, it's the CIA, not the Mormon Tabernacle F**king Choir/ Scott Weiland

KILLER_CLOWN
12-13-2007, 11:47 PM
Whaddya expect, it's the CIA, not the Mormon Tabernacle F**king Choir/ Scott Weiland

whadda coeenkeedink, that's exactly who i thought was on board.

Taco John
12-13-2007, 11:47 PM
They must have been heading to Bush's house...

KILLER_CLOWN
12-13-2007, 11:47 PM
They must have been heading to Bush's house...

ROFL nah, it was missing the gay porn stars.

Taco John
12-13-2007, 11:49 PM
Seriously though. This is the CIA. They're untouchable. You'd have to be on the fringe to question whether operations like this are what the framers had in mind when they founded our government. Of course they wanted a torturing, drug running, dictator empowering arm of government that runs unchecked around the world doing what they want. I mean, this is about our security, right?

SBK
12-14-2007, 12:05 AM
I don't see the big deal, they were just gearing up for the annual Christmas party.

Baby Lee
12-14-2007, 05:28 AM
I don't see the big deal, they were just gearing up for the annual Christmas party.
Ludachrismas!!

Ultra Peanut
12-14-2007, 05:59 AM
Cocaine! White gold! Dr. Paul loves this shit kids!

stevieray
12-14-2007, 06:00 AM
Seriously though. This is the CIA. They're untouchable. You'd have to be on the fringe to question whether operations like this are what the framers had in mind when they founded our government. Of course they wanted a torturing, drug running, dictator empowering arm of government that runs unchecked around the world doing what they want. I mean, this is about our security, right?

I like this post. It exposes you as the pettty, shallow man you truly are.

chagrin
12-14-2007, 06:03 AM
I care less about the torture chambers; all enemies of our state deserve anything they get during interrogation. Don't think for a minute that you also won't be tortured, you know - since the Government is after you and your little group of dissenters, eventually you will be caught since the Government is stripping you and I of all of our civil rights. :rolleyes:


I am a little concerned about the dope though

Cochise
12-14-2007, 06:50 AM
I don't have a lot of faith in a report that wasn't even proofread.

Radar Chief
12-14-2007, 07:11 AM
“Infamous torture chambers”? “Linked to the CIA between ’03 and ‘05” but not any longer?
That’s some integrity in journalism right there.
I particularly liked the way the blogger instantly assumes the diminishing coke bust total is due to government thievery and not over zealous reporting / officers inflated impression of what they got.

CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE
by redstatehatemonitor
Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 04:21:00 PM PST


:LOL: “by redstatehatemonitor”. LMAO

If there is any validity to the CIA moving drugs, heads should roll, but I just have too many questions about this article to warm up the Guillotine just yet.

BucEyedPea
12-14-2007, 08:06 AM
It's been reported for years that some of our CIA's most noxious clandestine activities have nothing to do with our national security. They've been involved in drug smuggling for years. Yet, some claim, letting the military handle intel would be worse?

Adept Havelock
12-14-2007, 10:07 AM
Yet, some claim, letting the military handle intel would be worse?

If I'm not mistaken the statement was letting "only" the military handle intel would be a mistake, due to the value of differing institutional perspectives.

BucEyedPea
12-14-2007, 10:43 AM
Adept, I was thinking of Donger saying it would be bad to have the military handled intel. Otherwise, this is a good example of the CIA clandestine rogue operation that goes beyond mere intel.

Bowser
12-14-2007, 11:18 AM
Who is the dumb**** CIA operative who let the plane run out of fuel?

listopencil
12-15-2007, 10:02 PM
Who is the dumb**** CIA operative who let the plane run out of fuel?


He's not dumb, he was all coked up. What do expect?

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-15-2007, 10:04 PM
You'd have to be a f*cking idiot to honestly believe that the CIA wasn't running drugs, and hasn't been doing so for the better part of 30 years.

JohninGpt
12-15-2007, 10:20 PM
So, can a plane this size carry anywhere from 3.3 to 6 tons (according to the link) of anything? Sounds like a bunch of sensationalist BS to me. Maybe one of the pilots or aeronautics folks here could give an answer.

Bowser
12-15-2007, 10:23 PM
He's not dumb, he was all coked up. What do expect?

At least he didn't feel anything when the plane crashed.

"OH, SHIT! I forgot to fuel this bitch up!"

"Eh, so what? Put the Oakenfold back on."

Donger
12-15-2007, 10:25 PM
I suppose no one cares that the max payload of this aircraft is ~5,000 lbs?

Bowser
12-15-2007, 10:26 PM
I suppose no one cares that the max payload of this aircraft is ~5,000 lbs?

What is the street value of that?

JohninGpt
12-15-2007, 10:27 PM
I suppose no one cares that the max payload of this aircraft is ~5,000 lbs?
I kinda figured as much. Some "journalist" will latch on to anything to further their cause.

Donger
12-15-2007, 10:28 PM
What is the street value of that?

Of a Gulf II? About $1.5 million.

Bowser
12-15-2007, 10:30 PM
Of a Gulf II? About $1.5 million.

So the 5K lbs of coke comes with the purchase? You could get a hell of a deal if you turned around and sold all of that on eBay.

Bowser
12-15-2007, 10:31 PM
And really, is there much difference between 5K and 6 tons? It's kind of like asking the difference between 10 million and 20 million. It's still a ****ing lot.

JohninGpt
12-15-2007, 10:31 PM
So the 5K lbs of coke comes with the purchase? You could get a hell of a deal if you turned around and sold all of that on eBay.
Not if it's as devalued as Chiefs tickets.

JohninGpt
12-15-2007, 10:37 PM
And really, is there much difference between 5K and 6 tons? It's kind of like asking the difference between 10 million and 20 million. It's still a ****ing lot.
So, if the reporter lied about the quantity, was there any coke there at all? Or was there a couple grams? Or maybe an eight ball? Maybe enough to get an operative in the good graces of a coke baron?
Maybe there are things that the general public doesn't need to know about.

Donger
12-15-2007, 10:37 PM
I kinda figured as much. Some "journalist" will latch on to anything to further their cause.

Well, if the plane was stripped clean, it could probably carry 6,000 - 8,000 lbs (no seats, galley, toilets, etc).

Donger
12-15-2007, 10:38 PM
And really, is there much difference between 5K and 6 tons? It's kind of like asking the difference between 10 million and 20 million. It's still a ****ing lot.

Just double the max payload. So, yes, quite a bit.

Bowser
12-15-2007, 10:39 PM
Not if it's as devalued as Chiefs tickets.

Excellent point.

Bowser
12-15-2007, 10:40 PM
I forgot this -

Donger
12-15-2007, 10:41 PM
Can someone explain to me how Daily Kos knows this plane was flying on behalf of CIA? What is their evidence?

JohninGpt
12-15-2007, 10:50 PM
I forgot this -
Sorry, I don't hang out in DC much, but I browse occasionally, and some things get my goat more than others. The big one being the same folks that say "Why aren't they protecting us?" bitching about the way they are being protected.

listopencil
12-15-2007, 10:57 PM
It's 106 miles to Cancun, we got a full load of coke, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.

Hit it.

Bowser
12-15-2007, 11:02 PM
Sorry, I don't hang out in DC much, but I browse occasionally, and some things get my goat more than others. The big one being the same folks that say "Why aren't they protecting us?" bitching about the way they are being protected.

Yeah, I'm no regular here, either. Just the occasional shit-stirrer. Heh.

Also, you need to change your name to Nathan R. Jessup.

JohninGpt
12-15-2007, 11:20 PM
Yeah, I'm no regular here, either. Just the occasional shit-stirrer. Heh.

Also, you need to change your name to Nathan R. Jessup.
I CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!

penchief
12-17-2007, 09:23 AM
I seem to remember a similar thing happened under the Reagan Administration when a plane crashed coming back from Central America during one of it's Contra runs.

StcChief
12-17-2007, 11:40 AM
Gotta keep those torture men alert and happy

the hookers were on the other jet

penchief
12-17-2007, 03:10 PM
I seem to remember a similar thing happened under the Reagan Administration when a plane crashed coming back from Central America during one of it's Contra runs.

I remember that as well. Bush, Reagan....there's really no difference (same shit, different decade). These kind of conservatives really do make it seem more like a crime operation than a presidential administration.

It's enough to make a citizen wonder if the flourishing opium crop in Afghanistan under our watch isn't also part of a plan to fund other covert operations or fill a few coffers.

Radar Chief
12-17-2007, 03:16 PM
I seem to remember a similar thing happened under the Reagan Administration when a plane crashed coming back from Central America during one of it's Contra runs.

I remember that as well.

:spock: Backing yourself up? Forget which login you were using? ROFL

Donger
12-17-2007, 03:31 PM
So, for the people who seem to be of the opinion that this aircraft was operating as charter for the big, evil meanies at Camp Peary, what is your evidence?

KILLER_CLOWN
12-17-2007, 03:32 PM
So, for the people who seem to be of the opinion that this aircraft was operating as charter for the big, evil meanies at Camp Peary, what is your evidence?

This is about the biggest amount of evidence the CIA let slip out.

Donger
12-17-2007, 03:37 PM
This is about the biggest amount of evidence the CIA let slip out.

Pardon? What evidence is there at all that this plane was flying on behest of CIA?

JohninGpt
12-17-2007, 03:50 PM
Pardon? What evidence is there at all that this plane was flying on behest of CIA?
It's right in the thread title silly, "CIA Torture Jet".

asdf
12-17-2007, 04:44 PM
Maybe not "evidence" but interesting...
http://www.narconews.com/Issue48/article2919.html

penchief
12-18-2007, 06:32 AM
:spock: Backing yourself up? Forget which login you were using? ROFL

Nah, just pretending that someone at least recognizes a pattern.

penchief
12-18-2007, 06:35 AM
Pardon? What evidence is there at all that this plane was flying on behest of CIA?

There's a lot more evidence surrounding Reagan's cocaine smuggling days.

Radar Chief
12-18-2007, 06:45 AM
Pardon? What evidence is there at all that this plane was flying on behest of CIA?

Good luck with that.
I’ve been learning that people are much more interested in just blindly bitching about a topic than learning any actual facts about said topic. Even if I find that a bit puzzling, it appears to be plain ole human nature.

Radar Chief
12-18-2007, 06:46 AM
Nah, just pretending that someone at least recognizes a pattern.

Oh, I’m seeing a “pattern” all right. I doubt it’s the one you’re talking about but it’s definitely there.

KILLER_CLOWN
12-18-2007, 07:52 AM
Maybe not "evidence" but interesting...
http://www.narconews.com/Issue48/article2919.html

The plot thickens, thanks for the update!

penchief
12-18-2007, 01:50 PM
Oh, I’m seeing a “pattern” all right. I doubt it’s the one you’re talking about but it’s definitely there.

Proceed to explain. I know that you're probably referring to my pattern of pointing out the obvious, however,......are you also denying that there has been a clear pattern of corruption, greed, and hubris within the neocon movement (Reaganites who now call themselves Bushies).

Reagan, military intervention, and drug smuggling = Bush, military intervention, and drug smuggling. As I already said, it's a different decade but the same ol' shit.