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synthesis2
12-15-2007, 09:18 AM
Does anyone know what draft spot we would have if the season ended today? Also assuming that the 3 win teams all win 1 game and we loose out, in essance we would be tied for the second worst record in the NFL with many teams with 4 wins, then where would we draft? Just curious if anyone has done the math.

evolve27
12-15-2007, 09:18 AM
I think I heard 8th on the radio but not 100% on that.

OnTheWarpath58
12-15-2007, 09:20 AM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=176397

Maybe a mod can sticky that thread so we don't have more of these started?

Mr. Laz
12-15-2007, 09:22 AM
UPDATED 2008 1st-ROUND DRAFT: SELECTION ORDER

December 11, 2007

(Ed. note: Selection order based on current record and combined W-L record of all opponents.)

# Team W-L Opps' W-L %

1 Miami 0-13 .548
2 New England (frm San Fran)3-10 .481
3 St. Louis 3-10 .514
4 Atlanta 3-10 .519
5 New York Jets 3-10 .524
6 Kansas City 4-9 .510
7 Oakland 4-9 .510
8 Baltimore 4-9 .514
9 Cincinnati 5-8 .466
10 Carolina 5-8 .534

Brock
12-15-2007, 09:24 AM
Oh god, not #6.

OnTheWarpath58
12-15-2007, 09:27 AM
Oh god, not #6.

ROFL

No worries.

As long as we lose out, we'll likely be 4 or 5.

We'd leapfrog the Jets and I have this sneaking suspicion that the Rams are gonna get another win, possibly jumping them as well.

the Talking Can
12-15-2007, 09:30 AM
we really need to lose our last games...we might have a shot at Dorsey or Ellis...

Mr. Laz
12-15-2007, 09:37 AM
all the 3-10 teams in front of us have a stronger strength of schedule ...... if we lose out we have a very good chance of picking 2nd or 3rd.

remaining games for each

2 New England (frm San Fran)3-10 .481
vs. Cincinnati
vs. Tampa Bay
@ Cleveland

3 St. Louis 3-10 .514
PACKERS
STEELERS
@ Cardinals

4 Atlanta 3-10 .519

at Tampa Bay
at Arizona
Seattle

5 New York Jets 3-10 .524
@ Patriots
@Ten
Kansas city


we need tampa bay to suck the rest of the season ... then we need to lose in New York.

That alone gets us to 3rd.

Sam Hall
12-15-2007, 09:48 AM
I'd like to see the Chiefs leap St. Louis and then have Miami draft anyone other than Jake Long.

Mecca
12-15-2007, 10:34 AM
More Jake Long pimping......blah.

SBK
12-15-2007, 03:13 PM
I'd love to get #3 and see Miami take Long. Then we could get Dorsey or Ellis, maybe have our pick of either.

RustShack
12-15-2007, 03:20 PM
We will move up when the NYJ beat us.

ILChief
12-15-2007, 03:24 PM
I'd love to get #3 and see Miami take Long. Then we could get Dorsey or Ellis, maybe have our pick of either.

and our offense can continue to be the worst in the league

ILChief
12-15-2007, 03:25 PM
we really need to lose our last games...we might have a shot at Dorsey or Ellis...

Can they play left tackle?

RustShack
12-15-2007, 03:30 PM
Holy shit, not this again. There is not an elite tackle in the first round, wait until the 2nd round because that is where the best value in. Very strong year for good olineman, very weak year for elite olineman.

RustShack
12-15-2007, 03:31 PM
Even if we draft a tackle first round, McIntosh will be our starting LT. The rookie will be our RT.

ILChief
12-15-2007, 03:32 PM
Holy shit, not this again. There is not an elite tackle in the first round, wait until the 2nd round because that is where the best value in. Very strong year for good olineman, very weak year for elite olineman.

Long is elite. I'd rather take a wide receiver than a defensive tackle.

ILChief
12-15-2007, 03:33 PM
Even if we draft a tackle first round, McIntosh will be our starting LT. The rookie will be our RT.

I doubt that. When did you start making the starting lineups? I'm certain if we draft a first round tackle, he'd be starting on the left sooner rather than later.

RustShack
12-15-2007, 03:34 PM
No no no, Long is the best tackle in this years draft, that does not make him elite. The tackle's we can draft in the 2nd round wont be much worse than Long.

RustShack
12-15-2007, 03:35 PM
Peoples thoughts are going to be way different about players after the combine. Arguing about the draft right now its pretty stupid. We don't know for sure who will draft where, what trades will be made, and who at the time will be labeled as the best player in the draft.

ILChief
12-15-2007, 03:36 PM
No no no, Long is the best tackle in this years draft, that does not make him elite. The tackle's we can draft in the 2nd round wont be much worse than Long.

Yes, Yes, Yes. Besides, if there is one that Carl has proven is that he can't draft D tackles for sh!t. I'd rather take an O-lineman or receiver that can instantly help our embarassingly bad offense than piss away another top 10 pick on Ryan Sims 2.0

RustShack
12-15-2007, 03:38 PM
Carl also shown he can't draft a WR worth a shit either. Didn't that change last year when Herm did the drafting?

ILChief
12-15-2007, 03:42 PM
Carl also shown he can't draft a WR worth a shit either. Didn't that change last year when Herm did the drafting?

Why are you begging for a D-tackle so bad? If you list this team's needs, it barely makes the top 5

I think we need 2 Offensive linemen, 2 Corners, and a Wide receiver before we even think of drafting d-tackle. Too early to give up on Tank and Turk.

RustShack
12-15-2007, 03:45 PM
Because you don't draft for need when there is an elite player you could use. This team needs cornerstones to be successful in the future, not just a good player.

Mr. Laz
12-15-2007, 03:47 PM
No no no, Long is the best tackle in this years draft, that does not make him elite. The tackle's we can draft in the 2nd round wont be much worse than Long.
isn't long a DE?

philfree
12-15-2007, 03:49 PM
isn't long a DE?

Jake Long is an OT while Chris Long(Howies Boy) is a DE.

PhilFree:arrow:

Mr. Laz
12-15-2007, 03:51 PM
Jake Long is an OT while Chris Long(Howies Boy) is a DE.

PhilFree:arrow:
ahh ... got it


i thought he was saying Chris long was the best Defensive tackle.

Mecca
12-15-2007, 03:51 PM
Hell Chris Long is better than Jake Long.......Rust lays out it...the real elite players this year are at Dline and QB for us...we can get close to the same value on an OT in the 2nd where we can't on those Dlineman.

Jake Long isn't elite....don't con yourself into believing he is...also this is a god awful WR year, there will be no top 10 WR's.

philfree
12-15-2007, 03:55 PM
Hell Chris Long is better than Jake Long.......Rust lays out it...the real elite players this year are at Dline and QB for us...we can get close to the same value on an OT in the 2nd where we can't on those Dlineman.

Jake Long isn't elite....don't con yourself into believing he is...also this is a god awful WR year, there will be no top 10 WR's.

Yeah there will be a pretty good OT available early in the 2nd round. We have evaluate properly and simply take the best player in the 1st round. Every round really!

PhilFree:arrow:

the Talking Can
12-15-2007, 04:06 PM
imagine if we drafted an OL in the 1st last year - for "need" - and were looking for a WR this year....yikes...

Mecca
12-15-2007, 04:10 PM
imagine if we drafted an OL in the 1st last year - for "need" - and were looking for a WR this year....yikes...

These people were out in full force last year too....they wanted Joe Staley be damned.....look how that worked out.

Woodrow Call
12-15-2007, 04:14 PM
imagine if we drafted an OL in the 1st last year - for "need" - and were looking for a WR this year....yikes...

Exactly

Calcountry
12-15-2007, 05:28 PM
Carl also shown he can't draft a WR worth a shit either. Didn't that change last year when Herm did the drafting?Enough of this shit already. That is why all this discussion is moot until Herm AND Carl are GONE!

It won't matter if they are still here. If Clark doesn't fire them both, I am done with Sunday Ticket for next year and I will be tending an organic vegetable garden on my Sunday afternoons.

Mr. Laz
12-15-2007, 05:30 PM
Enough of this shit already. That is why all this discussion is moot until Herm AND Carl are GONE!

It won't matter if they are still here. If Clark doesn't fire them both, I am done with Sunday Ticket for next year and I will be tending an organic vegetable garden on my Sunday afternoons.
i still wonder whether Chuck long shouldn't be beaten senseless with an erect donkey penis as well.