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smittysbar
12-18-2007, 12:24 AM
Chiefs' 2-6 home record their worst in 30 years

By DOUG TUCKER, AP Sports Writer
December 17, 2007

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- The last time the Chiefs lost this many home games, not one but two head coaches were thrown out of work.

First Paul Wiggin was fired about halfway through the 2-12 disaster in 1977. Then at the end of the year, interim head coach Tom Bettis was shown the door, told he had not performed well enough to get the job permanently.


That probably won't happen this time. Even though the Chiefs will drag a seven-game losing skid and a 4-10 record into Detroit this week for their next-to-last game in a miserable season, Herm Edwards seems assured of at least one more year in Kansas City.

But everyone is bracing for a major player purge. The 26-17 loss to Tennessee on Sunday ended their 2006 home record at 2-6, the worst since the ill-fated '77 team was 1-6 at Arrowhead Stadium in a 14-game season.

Clark Hunt, co-owner and chairman of the Chiefs' board, told The Associated Press he would be available for comment after the season.

Until then, whatever coaching or administrative changes that might be in the wind will be only speculation.

Nevertheless, Sunday's loss to the Titans figures to be the last appearance in a Chiefs uniform for anywhere from 15 to 20 players.

"There will be a lot of changes around here," said linebacker Derrick Johnson, who is probably one of the few not in danger. "You lose like this, you've got to ship somebody out and ship somebody in. That means just about anybody. It doesn't matter."

At one point late in Sunday's game, a few players on the Chiefs' sideline got into a shouting match with a group of fans who had been heckling them all day.

Damion McIntosh, one of the players doing some yelling, said he understood the fans' frustration.

"How many games have we lost at home?" the left tackle said. "Their frustration is our frustration. We've disappointed our fans. If we can, we'd apologize for our performance. This can't go on in the future. We have to put out a better product."

The Chiefs have long prided themselves on a home-field advantage that was practically second to none. Even that has disappeared.

"The coaching staff is going to do what they have to do in order to improve this team," said McIntosh. "There are no ifs, ands or buts abut it."

Edwards was the target of many of the angry signs fans were holding. So was president and general manager Carl Peterson.

Unable to score in the fourth period in their last six games, this is easily the worst season and the worst team the Chiefs have had since Peterson took over in 1989 and turned the franchise around.

"We're all disappointed. The fans haven't gone through anything like this," said Edwards. "It's tough on everybody. Our fans are very, very loyal. They have a passion for this football team. They'll be back cheering again. Happier days will come. This has just been an unfortunate season for us. The sun's going to come up and it will get better."

One of the few veterans who has maintained a level of excellence has been tight end Tony Gonzalez, who at 31 seems to be playing about as well as ever. Gonzalez stood in the locker room Monday and knew he was seeing a great many teammates for one of the last times.

"I think there's going to be some major changes," Gonzalez said. "I would anticipate that. How could you not? How ignorant it would be of us, and arrogant, too, to say we don't have to go out there and fix this thing? You have to make drastic changes because right now it's not getting done."

After Detroit, the Chiefs will close out Edwards' second season at the New York Jets. Edwards said Monday that one thing fans have been clamoring for could be in the offing -- the return of Pro Bowl running back Larry Johnson.

Johnson has missed six straight games with a foot injury and is slowly on the mend.

"We'll see how he feels Wednesday and see if he can practice more than he has," Edwards said.

Just a year ago, Edwards had the Chiefs in the playoffs.

"It's tough in the fact that we were coming off a playoff deal last year and we come back this year with a veteran team on one side of the ball," he said. "It didn't work out the way we anticipated ... Now we have to go about fixing it."

Tribal Warfare
12-18-2007, 12:29 AM
They'll be back cheering again. Happier days will come. This has just been an unfortunate season for us. The sun's going to come up and it will get better.


you got to be F*CKin kidding me!!!!!!! The propaganda machine marches on :banghead: :#

Guru
12-18-2007, 12:41 AM
you got to be ****in kidding me!!!!!!! The propaganda machine marches on :banghead: :#
that's life. :# damn you herm

Tribal Warfare
12-18-2007, 12:45 AM
that's life. :# damn you herm


yeah I have to "Get over it" ? :cuss:

Guru
12-18-2007, 12:49 AM
Somebody needs to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

DAMNIT!!!!

ChiefaRoo
12-18-2007, 12:50 AM
it's ok...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/buyingguy/stupidityhn91.jpg

BigRedChief
12-18-2007, 05:40 AM
Somebody needs to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

DAMNIT!!!!
And fast.

Short Leash Hootie
12-18-2007, 05:41 AM
well I guarantee one thing...no matter what happens this offseason Arrowhead will be rocking on our hope opener in 2008...

Skip Towne
12-18-2007, 05:53 AM
well I guarantee one thing...no matter what happens this offseason Arrowhead will be rocking on our hope opener in 2008...
Hope opener is right. If we only had hope.

Short Leash Hootie
12-18-2007, 05:56 AM
True =(

Pushead2
12-18-2007, 05:58 AM
it will be rocking if Herm and Carl are gone.

DaKCMan AP
12-18-2007, 06:03 AM
At one point late in Sunday's game, a few players on the Chiefs' sideline got into a shouting match with a group of fans who had been heckling them all day.

Damion McIntosh, one of the players doing some yelling, said he understood the fans' frustration.

"How many games have we lost at home?" the left tackle said. "Their frustration is our frustration. We've disappointed our fans. If we can, we'd apologize for our performance. This can't go on in the future. We have to put out a better product."

Yelling at fans is a strange way to apologize..

the Talking Can
12-18-2007, 06:05 AM
it's ok...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/buyingguy/stupidityhn91.jpg


rep

Bob Dole
12-18-2007, 06:35 AM
well I guarantee one thing...no matter what happens this offseason Arrowhead will be rocking on our hope opener in 2008...

Maybe Herm can have the team wear white again.

TEX
12-18-2007, 06:58 AM
Maybe Herm can have the team wear white again.


ROFL
When it's all said and done - Herm's name will be mentioned with Wiggin and all the other $HITTY coaches in Chiefs History - and rightfully so.

TEX
12-18-2007, 07:04 AM
"We're all disappointed. The fans haven't gone through anything like this," said Edwards. "It's tough on everybody. Our fans are very, very loyal. They have a passion for this football team. They'll be back cheering again. Happier days will come. This has just been an unfortunate season for us. The sun's going to come up and it will get better."

_____________________________________________________________
Yeah - when your SORRY A$$ and the equally SORRY A$$ who hired you - LEAVES! :loser:

Bwana
12-18-2007, 07:10 AM
None of you are "true fans!" --philfree

Bill Parcells
12-18-2007, 07:28 AM
Is there really 60 seconds in a minute?

seclark
12-18-2007, 07:34 AM
Is there really 60 seconds in a minute?

i must be a shitty fan, cause i laughed my ass off.
sec

thehead
12-18-2007, 07:36 AM
Is there really 60 seconds in a minute?













Holy shit nice Bill
ROFL

KCChiefsFan88
12-18-2007, 08:48 AM
"We're all disappointed. The fans haven't gone through anything like this," said Edwards.

I love how Herm continues to act like Chiefs fans are spoiled brats who have enjoyed great triumphs with this team and this is just some freak down year.

The fact is this season is sort of the bottom of a downward spiral that this franchise has been in for some time now. This is a team that has the third longest playoff drought in the league and is the only team in the AFC West who has not been in the Super Bowl during the past 20 years or so.

smittysbar
12-18-2007, 10:02 AM
That is hilarious Bill!!!

philfree
12-18-2007, 10:37 AM
None of you are "true fans!" --philfree

Don't forget you binky!

PhilFree:arrow:

StcChief
12-18-2007, 12:08 PM
MAY have, should be BETTER HAVE

FAX
12-18-2007, 12:08 PM
Thank you for posting an enormous, big, giant paragraph. My day is now complete, Mr. findthedr.

FAX

CupidStunt
12-18-2007, 12:09 PM
I need a scalpel.

jspchief
12-18-2007, 12:17 PM
Is 15-20 new players even a big number?

By the time you factor in free agents, draft picks, etc. it doesn't seem like it would take much to get to 15 new players in any given year.

By the way, I'm tired of hearing about all the home games we've lost this year. This team has used it's home field advantage like a crutch for too f*cking long anyway.

siberian khatru
12-18-2007, 12:21 PM
Is 15-20 new players even a big number?

By the time you factor in free agents, draft picks, etc. it doesn't seem like it would take much to get to 15 new players in any given year.

By the way, I'm tired of hearing about all the home games we've lost this year. This team has used it's home field advantage like a crutch for too f*cking long anyway.

Holy shit, where have you been?

Glad to see you back. Stick around -- we need your football input.

grandllamajr
12-18-2007, 09:20 PM
We are in a CANADIAN newspaper we are that craptastic"not good". check it out.

"KANSAS CITY, Mo. - The last time the Chiefs lost this many home games, not one but two head coaches were thrown out of work.

First Paul Wiggin was fired about halfway through the 2-12 disaster in 1977. Then at the end of the year, interim head coach Tom Bettis was shown the door, told he had not performed well enough to get the job permanently.

That probably won't happen this time. Even though the Chiefs will drag a seven-game losing skid and a 4-10 record into Detroit this week for their next-to-last game in a miserable season, Herm Edwards seems assured of at least one more year in Kansas City.

But everyone is bracing for a major player purge. The 26-17 loss to Tennessee on Sunday ended their 2006 home record at 2-6, the worst since the ill-fated '77 team was 1-6 at Arrowhead Stadium in a 14-game season.

Clark Hunt, co-owner and chairman of the Chiefs' board, told The Associated Press he would be available for comment after the season.

Until then, whatever coaching or administrative changes that might be in the wind will be only speculation.

Nevertheless, Sunday's loss to the Titans figures to be the last appearance in a Chiefs uniform for anywhere from 15 to 20 players.

"There will be a lot of changes around here," said linebacker Derrick Johnson, who is probably one of the few not in danger. "You lose like this, you've got to ship somebody out and ship somebody in. That means just about anybody. It doesn't matter."

At one point late in Sunday's game, a few players on the Chiefs' sideline got into a shouting match with a group of fans who had been heckling them all day.

Damion McIntosh, one of the players doing some yelling, said he understood the fans' frustration.

"How many games have we lost at home?" the left tackle said. "Their frustration is our frustration. We've disappointed our fans. If we can, we'd apologize for our performance. This can't go on in the future. We have to put out a better product."

The Chiefs have long prided themselves on a home-field advantage that was practically second to none. Even that has disappeared.

"The coaching staff is going to do what they have to do in order to improve this team," said McIntosh. "There are no ifs, ands or buts abut it."

Edwards was the target of many of the angry signs fans were holding. So was president and general manager Carl Peterson.

Unable to score in the fourth period in their last six games, this is easily the worst season and the worst team the Chiefs have had since Peterson took over in 1989 and turned the franchise around.

"We're all disappointed. The fans haven't gone through anything like this," said Edwards. "It's tough on everybody. Our fans are very, very loyal. They have a passion for this football team. They'll be back cheering again. Happier days will come. This has just been an unfortunate season for us. The sun's going to come up and it will get better."

One of the few veterans who has maintained a level of excellence has been tight end Tony Gonzalez, who at 31 seems to be playing about as well as ever. Gonzalez stood in the locker room Monday and knew he was seeing a great many teammates for one of the last times.

"I think there's going to be some major changes," Gonzalez said. "I would anticipate that. How could you not? How ignorant it would be of us, and arrogant, too, to say we don't have to go out there and fix this thing? You have to make drastic changes because right now it's not getting done."

After Detroit, the Chiefs will close out Edwards' second season at the New York Jets. Edwards said Monday that one thing fans have been clamouring for could be in the offing - the return of Pro Bowl running back Larry Johnson.

Johnson has missed six straight games with a foot injury and is slowly on the mend.

"We'll see how he feels Wednesday and see if he can practice more than he has," Edwards said.

Just a year ago, Edwards had the Chiefs in the playoffs.

"It's tough in the fact that we were coming off a playoff deal last year and we come back this year with a veteran team on one side of the ball," he said. "It didn't work out the way we anticipated ... Now we have to go about fixing it.""

Thats from the Canadian press so like I said What the Hell

prhom
12-18-2007, 10:16 PM
I wonder how the Chiefs would fare in the CFL? I'll bet we'd get our a$$es kicked.

Coach
12-18-2007, 10:21 PM
I wonder how the Chiefs would fare in the CFL? I'll bet we'd get our a$$es kicked.

Or in the arena league. Jesus, it's like being a Division II team going up aganist USC or LSU.

Phobia
12-18-2007, 10:24 PM
I wonder how the Chiefs would fare in the CFL? I'll bet we'd get our a$$es kicked.

You're crazy. The best QB in the CFL couldn't even make our practice squad. Come on.

RJ
12-18-2007, 10:37 PM
I wonder how the Chiefs would fare in the CFL? I'll bet we'd get our a$$es kicked.



Well, yeah, but our guys wouldn't know the rules and don't even have dog sleds. Let's be fair about this.

listopencil
12-18-2007, 10:39 PM
Well. Do they pay you in bacon? Because I'd play football for bacon. Hell yeah.

RJ
12-18-2007, 10:40 PM
Well. Do they pay you in bacon? Because I'd play football for bacon. Hell yeah.


Canadian bacon, I'd assume.

Simplex3
12-18-2007, 10:42 PM
Edwards said Monday that one thing fans have been clamouring (sic) for could be in the offing - the return of Pro Bowl running back Larry Johnson.
Uh, who was clamoring for LJ? I believe that clamor he heard was us wishing Carl had f**king traded his ass like we wanted him to.

listopencil
12-18-2007, 10:45 PM
Canadian bacon, I'd assume.

Sure. The pig is a good friend of mine. The pig has always been very good to me. American bacon...Canadian bacon...it's all good.

stumppy
12-18-2007, 10:54 PM
After Detroit, the Chiefs will close out Edwards' second season at the New York Jets. Edwards said Monday that one thing fans have been clamouring for could be in the offing - the return of Pro Bowl running back Larry Johnson.




Does this guy have any idea what the fans want? Does he even pay attention to how individual players are doing ? I don't think I've heard anyone (outside of the two or three regular LJ schlong slurppers) saying anything about wanting LJ back.

RJ
12-18-2007, 11:07 PM
Sure. The pig is a good friend of mine. The pig has always been very good to me. American bacon...Canadian bacon...it's all good.



Can you get Canadian bacon from an American pig?

chagrin
12-19-2007, 05:24 AM
It's much better when you poat articles instead of typing, yourself :p

smittysbar
12-19-2007, 09:20 AM
You're crazy. The best QB in the CFL couldn't even make our practice squad. Come on.

Chicken Salad anyone?