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Taco John
12-27-2007, 10:20 PM
Go 6 minutes into this video:


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SBK
12-27-2007, 10:37 PM
Did she say "the man who murdered Osama Bin Laden"?

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-27-2007, 10:39 PM
Given all of the dissidents of the neocon agenda in the US and around the world and their access to the media I have a very, very hard time believing that someone who was in exile until two months ago would know more about this situation than everyone else in the world.

Taco John
12-27-2007, 11:07 PM
Did she say "the man who murdered Osama Bin Laden"?



I'm trying to guage the context, and I believe what she's saying is that he was killed from within the organization. Sounds like an internal power grab, but it's hard to say. I'm interested in learning more.

BigMeatballDave
12-27-2007, 11:07 PM
I think I've heard her voice from a tech support call I made recently...

BigMeatballDave
12-27-2007, 11:09 PM
I'm trying to guage the context, and I believe what she's saying is that he was killed from within the organization. Sounds like an internal power grab, but it's hard to say. I'm interested in learning more.She says it so matter-of-factly, as if its common knowledge.

Taco John
12-27-2007, 11:11 PM
What I don't get is why the reporter didn't stop her there and probe the question further. That's huge news that she's dropping there, and the first question that comes to mind is:

"Wha-, wha, WHAT!?"

BigMeatballDave
12-27-2007, 11:11 PM
Seems the interviewer could not give a shit less about it...

SBK
12-27-2007, 11:13 PM
What I don't get is why the reporter didn't stop her there and probe the question further. That's huge news that she's dropping there, and the first question that comes to mind is:

"Wha-, wha, WHAT!?"

This was my exact thought. I can't believe he didn't revisit what she said.

Taco John
12-27-2007, 11:15 PM
She says it so matter-of-factly, as if its common knowledge.



She says it almost like: "Duh, just click 'Properties' in the TCP/IP setting and select "Automatically Detect," then reboot... Pshaw!"

StcChief
12-28-2007, 11:02 AM
so she joined him now.... does she get 72 virgin men?

Mr. Laz
12-28-2007, 11:09 AM
i've always thought he was probably dead already ....... better unknown then martyr.

Fishpicker
12-28-2007, 11:26 AM
Given all of the dissidents of the neocon agenda in the US and around the world and their access to the media I have a very, very hard time believing that someone who was in exile until two months ago would know more about this situation than everyone else in the world.

I see your point but you should consider she was in exile while OBL was in hiding. How many undergrounds can there be? And she isn't the first person to say this. The OBL-died-in-Pakistan story is fairly old-hat.

banyon
12-28-2007, 12:20 PM
I see your point but you should consider she was in exile while OBL was in hiding. How many undergrounds can there be? And she isn't the first person to say this. The OBL-died-in-Pakistan story is fairly old-hat.

1. Exile is a lot different than "in hiding".

2. I think the old story was "OBL died of Kidney failure" not "Dude X killed OBL".

And what explains the newer recordings?

Bowser
12-28-2007, 12:24 PM
so she joined him now.... does she get 72 virgin men?

LMAO


72 15 year olds who don't have a clue what to do with her?

bkkcoh
12-28-2007, 12:36 PM
so she joined him now.... does she get 72 virgin men?


Wouldn't that be like hell for a woman? Being stuck with 72 virgin men, 20 - 60 second johnny come too quickly...... :banghead:

AustinChief
12-28-2007, 01:33 PM
no.. I would guess she misspoke... Omar Sheikh is the man who murdered DANIEL PEARL. He is also BRITISH born and possibly worked for MI6. He is deeply connected with Pakastani Intelligence. He also had ties with al Queda. I am guessing she just misspoke but it isn't inconceivable that he is a DEEP cover agent and did in fact kill OBL

Taco John
12-28-2007, 01:37 PM
I don't know Austin. That seems like a stretch to me to mistake the names "Osama Bin Ladin" and "Daniel Pearl." And that still doesn't explain why the reporter was so non-chanlant about it.

AustinChief
12-28-2007, 01:43 PM
I don't know Austin. That seems like a stretch to me to mistake the names "Osama Bin Ladin" and "Daniel Pearl." And that still doesn't explain why the reporter was so non-chanlant about it.

I agree... but she may have been thinking of mentioning the connection of Sheikh to OBL and said OBL instead of Pearl... you never know..

more than likely, she knew a HELLUVA lot more about Sheikh than the public will ever know ... from everything I have read... he is one strange cat

memyselfI
12-28-2007, 01:49 PM
LMAO


72 15 year olds who don't have a clue what to do with her?

That sure in the hell would be better than 15 72 year olds who don't have a clue or who couldn't do anything if they did...

;)

BigMeatballDave
12-28-2007, 04:37 PM
LMAO


72 15 year olds who don't have a clue what to do with her?Could be worse. It could be 72 Clayton Wendlers...

Iowanian
12-28-2007, 04:40 PM
I hope buzzards were chewing on him for a couple of days as he slowly headed for hell.

go bowe
12-28-2007, 05:12 PM
Could be worse. It could be 72 Clayton Wendlers...i think you have a good point there...

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Taco John
12-30-2007, 12:41 AM
New Bin Laden Tape Threatens Israel, Sunni Arabs

SALAH NASRAWI | December 29, 2007 08:46 PM EST

CAIRO, Egypt Osama bin Laden warned Iraq's Sunni Arabs against fighting al-Qaida and vowed to expand the terror group's holy war to Israel in a new audiotape Saturday, threatening "blood for blood, destruction for destruction."

Most of the 56-minute tape dealt with Iraq, apparently al-Qaida's latest attempt to keep supporters in Iraq unified at a time when the U.S. military claims to have al-Qaida's Iraq branch on the run.

The tape did not mention Pakistan or the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, though Pakistan's government has blamed al-Qaida and the Taliban for her death on Thursday. That suggested the tape was made before the assassination.

Bin Laden's comments offered an unusually direct attack on Israel, stepping up al-Qaida's attempts to use the Israeli-Arab conflict to rally supporters. Israel has warned of growing al-Qaida activity in Palestinian territory, though terror network is not believed to have taken a strong role there so far.

"We intend to liberate Palestine, the whole of Palestine from the (Jordan) river to the sea," he said, threatening "blood for blood, destruction for destruction."

"We will not recognize even one inch for Jews in the land of Palestine as other Muslim leaders have," bin Laden said.

In Iraq, a number of Sunni Arab tribes in western Anbar province have formed a coalition fighting al-Qaida-linked insurgents that U.S. officials credit for deeply reducing violence in the province. The U.S. military has been working to form similar "Awakening Councils" in other areas of Iraq.

Bin Laden said Sunni Arabs who have joined the Awakening Councils "have betrayed the nation and brought disgrace and shame to their people. They will suffer in life and in the afterlife."

White House spokesman Tony Fratto said bin Laden's tape shows that al-Qaida's aim is to block democracy and freedom for all Iraqis.

"It also reminds us that the mission to defeat al-Qaida in Iraq is critically important and must succeed," Fratto said. "The Iraqi people _ every day, and in increasing numbers _ are choosing freedom and standing against the murderous, hateful ideology of AQI. And we stand with them."

Several hours before the tape was issued, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, said al-Qaida was becoming increasingly fearful of losing the support of Sunni Arabs and had begun targeting the leaders of the Awakening Councils.

Petraeus said al-Qaida attaches "enormous importance" to "these tribes that have turned against them, and to the general sense that Sunni Arab communities have rejected them more and more around Iraq."

"They are trying to counter this and they have done so by attacking them," which is increasingly turning Sunnis against al-Qaida, he said.

In the audiotape, bin Laden denounced Abdul-Sattar Abu Risha, the former leader of the Anbar Awakening Council, who was killed in a September bombing claimed by al-Qaida.

"The most evil of the traitors are those who trade away their religion for the sake of their mortal life," bin Laden said.

Bin Laden said U.S. and Iraqi officials are seeking to set up a "national unity government" joining the country's Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds.

"Our duty is to foil these dangerous schemes, which try to prevent the establishment of an Islamic state in Iraq, which would be a wall of resistance against American schemes to divide Iraq," he said.

He called on Iraq's Sunni Arabs to rally behind the Islamic State of Iraq, the insurgent umbrella group led by al-Qaida. Besides the Awakening Councils, some Sunni insurgent groups that continue to fight the Americans have rejected the Islamic State.

Bin Laden said Sunnis should pledge their allegiance to Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, the little known "emir" or leader of the Islamic State of Iraq. U.S. officials have claimed that al-Baghdadi does not exist, saying al-Qaida created the name to give its coalition the illusion of an Iraqi leadership.

"Failure to give allegiance to the emir after he has been endorsed leads to great evils," bin Laden warned. "Emir Abu Omar would rather have his neck severed than betray the Muslims ... Emir Abu Omar and his brothers are not one of those who accept compromise or meeting the enemy halfway."

The authenticity of the tape could not be independently confirmed. But the voice resembled that of bin Laden. The tape was posted on an Islamic militant Web site where al-Qaida's media arm, Al-Sahab, issues the group's messages.

The tape was the fifth message released by bin Laden this year, a flurry of activity after he went more than a year without issuing any tapes. The messages began with a Sept. 8 video that showed bin Laden for the first time in nearly three years. The other messages this year have been audiotapes.

In an October tape, bin Laden sought to patch up splits between Iraqi insurgent factions, urging them to unite with the Islamic State of Iraq _ the insurgent coalition led by al-Qaida. He took a conciliatory stance, chiding even al-Qaida's followers for being too "extremist" in their positions toward other insurgents.

Bin Laden's deputy Ayman al-Zawahri took a sharper tone in a Dec. 16 video, branding as "traitors" those who work with the anti-Qaida tribal councils and calling for Sunnis to purge anyone cooperating with the Americans.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071229/bin-laden-tape/