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Claynus
12-30-2007, 09:41 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/424364.html

Allen bags sacks title, now wants big contract
By KENT BABB
The Kansas City Star


EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. | Less than an hour after the Chiefs lost their ninth consecutive game, Jared Allen stood at his stall in the Giants Stadium visitors’ locker room and pumped his fist.

Another goal had been checked off Allen’s list, this time the distinction of NFL sacks champion. His two sacks in Sunday’s 13-10 loss at the New York Jets gave him 15 1/2 sacks this season and sealed his spot atop the sexiest of all defensive statistics.

Now, Allen wants a contract to match. The first step toward achieving that goal is for the Chiefs’ front office and the defensive end’s agent to agree on how much he is worth.

Allen said Sunday he has some idea.

“A hundred million?” he said. “I want to be a billionaire.”

That was a joke. This part was not: Allen said he proved this season his play is on par with the league’s top defenders, such as Indianapolis Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney. Freeney, the 2004 sacks champion and a three-time Pro Bowler, signed a contract in June that included $30 million in guarantees. Freeney is the NFL’s highest-paid defender.

Allen, whose contract this past season was worth $2.35 million, was asked Sunday if he thought he was as valuable as Freeney.

“Oh, definitely,” Allen said.

That does not mean he will be paid like Freeney. Allen said contract discussions this season between his agent and Chiefs management were “silent,” a sign, Allen said, he believes a rich extension is not on the horizon. He said that translates into uncertainty he will return to the Chiefs next season.

“I have no clue, to be honest with you,” he said. “I love Kansas City. I really do. A lot needs to happen. We need to get a lot done.”

Allen, who is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent, said he expects the team to designate him the Chiefs’ franchise player instead of signing him to an extension. Such a designation would allow the Chiefs to retain Allen and pay him the average salary of the league’s top-five defensive ends.

Allen was selected a Pro Bowl starter two weeks ago, which he said was another of his personal goals. He has said those accomplishments have eased the disappointment of losing nine in a row, although Allen said he would trade the impressive notches on his resume for a playoff berth.

But after Sunday, more than two months since the Chiefs’ losing streak began, players will have eight more months before they have their next chance to win. Allen said Sunday’s loss was the latest in a long line of team disappointments, lowered expectations and failure.

“This sucks. I don’t even know how else to describe it,” he said. “This is absolutely horrible. It’s the Jets.

“The frustration just keeps building. It’s at the point sometimes that you just sit back and laugh at it.”

Rudy lost the toss
12-30-2007, 09:42 PM
He's also only about a sack or two away from passing Eric Hicks on the chiefs all-time sacks list

siberian khatru
12-30-2007, 09:43 PM
“The frustration just keeps building."

Just wait until Carl tags your ass.

J Diddy
12-30-2007, 09:43 PM
i love JA

unothadeal
12-30-2007, 09:45 PM
It’s the Jets.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

pr_capone
12-30-2007, 09:47 PM
Honestly.... I hope they pay the guy.

I would rather do it now while he is willing to sign with us as opposed to tagging him, then loosing him next year.

blueballs
12-30-2007, 09:48 PM
Tony G - Changes need to be made
big changes
I don't want to go through this again

J Diddy
12-30-2007, 09:49 PM
Honestly.... I hope they pay the guy.

I would rather do it now while he is willing to sign with us as opposed to tagging him, then loosing him next year.oh we can keep taggin him

blueballs
12-30-2007, 09:50 PM
Jack Harry is going off

Coogs
12-30-2007, 09:53 PM
“A hundred million?” he said. “I want to be a billionaire.”

A hundered million would be a good start, but he would still be a long way from a billionaire. Wish I had that problem!

Coogs
12-30-2007, 09:53 PM
Jack Harry is going off

How so?

Micjones
12-30-2007, 09:58 PM
Pay the man and let's be done with it.

BigMeatballDave
12-30-2007, 09:59 PM
15 1/2 sacks in 14 games. JA sucks.

blueballs
12-30-2007, 09:59 PM
YOUNG HUNT HAS GOT TO GET RID OF THE STENCH
EVERY CHIEF FAN KNOWS PETERSON HAS GOT TO GO
ect. ect. for 5 solid minutes
wants Chargers Buddy Nix

KcMizzou
12-30-2007, 10:00 PM
Jack Harry is going offJack Harry's always been "off".

UteChief
12-30-2007, 10:04 PM
I'm not sure if he deserves Freeney money but the Chiefs need to open the bank.

Frazod
12-30-2007, 10:09 PM
I'm not sure if he deserves Freeney money but the Chiefs need to open the bank.

Agreed. And I don't think Allen will curl up in a ball after cashing his check the way that piece of shit Johnson did.

BigMeatballDave
12-30-2007, 10:09 PM
I'm not sure if he deserves Freeney money but the Chiefs need to open the bank.Freeney didn't deserve Freeney money.

Braincase
12-30-2007, 10:21 PM
Can't wait to see Larry Johnson's reaction to JA getting a better contract with more guaranteed cash.

Frazod
12-30-2007, 10:30 PM
Can't wait to see Larry Johnson's reaction to JA getting a better contract with more guaranteed cash.

Maybe he'll pout and whine and make a rap video talking about how much we suck. Maybe he'll only play a fraction of the season and be all but useless during his brief time on the field.

Oh wait, all that already happened.

I don't give a f#ck what he does.

Claynus
12-30-2007, 10:59 PM
Maybe he'll pout and whine and make a rap video talking about how much we suck. Maybe he'll only play a fraction of the season and be all but useless during his brief time on the field.

Oh wait, all that already happened.

I don't give a f#ck what he does.

Chiefs with Larry Johnson: 4-4

Chiefs without Larry Johnson: 0-8

KcMizzou
12-30-2007, 11:12 PM
Chiefs with Larry Johnson: 4-4

Chiefs without Larry Johnson: 0-8A valid point.

el borracho
12-30-2007, 11:13 PM
Signing Allen to a long-term contract should have been the obvious choice long ago and the fact that he has not been signed is both inexplicable and inexcusable.

[sigh] Carl works in mysterious ways.

Mr. Laz
12-30-2007, 11:27 PM
Jack Harry's always been "off".
considering his position about Carl ......... hasn't Jack Harry always been "right"?

Mr. Laz
12-30-2007, 11:28 PM
Signing Allen to a long-term contract should have been the obvious choice long ago and the fact that he has not been signed is both inexplicable and inexcusable.

[sigh] Carl works in mysterious ways.
and he should been sign so his cap number hit THIS YEAR instead of being the excuse for not signing anyone next year.

Pablo
12-30-2007, 11:31 PM
Chiefs with Larry Johnson: 4-4

Chiefs without Larry Johnson: 0-8Pretty much.

I sincerely hope LJ comes back from this injury pissed off and what trash we are, and that a rookie was showing him up. That would be great.

Thig Lyfe
12-30-2007, 11:37 PM
Pay him.

Pablo
12-30-2007, 11:39 PM
And, yeah.

Pay JA. If anybody on this team deserves a nice, fat contract it's JA. Without him, we're probably 3-13, or 2-14.

I sincerely believe he's that much of an impact player.

He is to us, what Bob Sanders is to the Colts. He's the heart of our defense.

Mr. Laz
12-30-2007, 11:39 PM
Chiefs with Larry Johnson: 4-4

Chiefs without Larry Johnson: 0-8
maybe you should retake your own retard test .... i think you must of graded on a curve or something.


NAME ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
Larry Johnson 158 559 3.5 54 3 1 1
Kolby Smith 110 406 3.7 19 2 0 0
Priest Holmes 46 137 3.0 11 0 0 0

sportsman1
12-30-2007, 11:40 PM
Pay him. Lose him and it sure as hell don't get better.

el borracho
12-30-2007, 11:57 PM
and he should been sign so his cap number hit THIS YEAR instead of being the excuse for not signing anyone next year.
We could have (and should have!) used a lot more of our cap space this year to allow for bigger signings in the future. Again, inexplicable and inexcusable.

Frazod
12-31-2007, 12:03 AM
Chiefs with Larry Johnson: 4-4

Chiefs without Larry Johnson: 0-8

Our running game sucked balls before he got hurt. After he got hurt, it still sucked, only the guys toting the rock weren't costing us wasted millions.

MeaTy The Pimp
12-31-2007, 05:26 AM
I just hope he doesn't go the way of John Tait, where we slap on the Franchise Tag, and another team comes along and snags him up for a salary number we have no desire of matching...

ChiefGator
12-31-2007, 05:50 AM
I just hope he doesn't go the way of John Tait, where we slap on the Franchise Tag, and another team comes along and snags him up for a salary number we have no desire of matching...

I think Tait was given a Transitional Tag... not Franchise.

Cochise
12-31-2007, 06:57 AM
Our running game sucked balls before he got hurt. After he got hurt, it still sucked, only the guys toting the rock weren't costing us wasted millions.

Exactly.

He had a fine year in 2006. In 2007, Kolby Smith looked like his equal.

MeaTy The Pimp
12-31-2007, 07:05 AM
I think Tait was given a Transitional Tag... not Franchise.


Oops, Looks like I need to get my info straight. As long as we don't lose the guy due to Carl's dumbassery, I will be happy.

TEX
12-31-2007, 07:50 AM
“This sucks. I don’t even know how else to describe it,” he said. “This is absolutely horrible. It’s the Jets.

“The frustration just keeps building. It’s at the point sometimes that you just sit back and laugh at it.”

_____________________________________________________________

ROFL The J-E-T-S, the OTHER team that employed HERM as a HC.

Pushead2
12-31-2007, 07:52 AM
Pay the man.

Iowanian
12-31-2007, 09:02 AM
"Payee dis mayan his mon-ay, he beat me"

http://www.kickingwind.com/assets4/kgb44.jpg

eazyb81
12-31-2007, 09:03 AM
Pay the man already. I hope he doesn't quite get Freeney money, but I would argue that he's more valuable than Freeney because he can play the run well along with being a beast pass rusher.

I wonder if the NFLPA would let us put something in his contract that take away guaranteed money if he has another DUI.

morphius
12-31-2007, 09:17 AM
maybe you should retake your own retard test .... i think you must of graded on a curve or something.


NAME ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
Larry Johnson 158 559 3.5 54 3 1 1
Kolby Smith 110 406 3.7 19 2 0 0
Priest Holmes 46 137 3.0 11 0 0 0
But even the Chiefs players said that as soon as he was out teams stopped stacking the box against us, and played us completely differently. With Smith in there they were not afraid that he was going to really be a game breaker.

Mr. Laz
12-31-2007, 09:31 AM
But even the Chiefs players said that as soon as he was out teams stopped stacking the box against us, and played us completely differently. With Smith in there they were not afraid that he was going to really be a game breaker.
like that's a bad thing?

i would think that would be consider a positive since Herm insists on running such a high school-ish offense.


larry johnson comes out ..... defense start playing more evenly .... we get to be more productive running the ball. It's not like with Johnson in there we actually took advantage of defenses stacking the box and threw the ball.

StcChief
12-31-2007, 09:50 AM
Pay JA solid defenders don't grow on trees....

RBs are like tires, replace after a few years when they get thin or side wall flat.

Pitt Gorilla
12-31-2007, 10:04 AM
Allen plays one of the positions where a good player should be locked up for good money. Left tackle, quarterback, and defensive end are just about the only positions where a team should lock up premium talent. Giving two running backs in a row big contracts is asinine.

philfree
12-31-2007, 10:07 AM
Allan needs to be paid. I wonder if LJ would do a restructure to help with cap space since he bombed out this season right after he got his big contract.

PhilFree:arrow:

xbarretx
12-31-2007, 10:19 AM
Chiefs with Larry Johnson: 4-4

Chiefs without Larry Johnson: 0-8

Regular Season Games

WK Game Date Opp Result Att Yds -- Avg --Lng --TD --Rec --Yds --Avg -- Long --TD

1 09/09 @ HOU L 3-20 ---10 -- 43 -- 4.3 -- 8 -- 0 -- 7 -- 44 -- 6.3 --14 -- 0
2 09/16 @ CHI L 10-20 --16 -- 55 -- 3.4 -- 10 -- 0 -- 3 -- 32 -- 10.7 -- 15 -- 0
3 09/23 MIN W 13-10 -- 24 -- 42 -- 1.8 -- 10 -- 0 -- 1 -- -5 -- -5.0 -- -5 -- 0
4 09/30 @ SD W 30-16 -- 25 -- 123 -- 4.9 -- 37 -- 0 -- 3 -- 25 -- 8.3 -- 14 -- 0
5 10/07 JAC L 7-17 -- 9 -- 12 -- 1.3 -- 7 -- 0 -- 5 -- 3 -- 0.6 -- 7 -- 0
6 10/14 CIN W 27-20 -- 31 -- 119 -- 3.8 -- 34 -- 1 -- 2 -- 24 -- 12.0 -- 15 -- 0
7 10/21 @ OAK W 12-10 -- 24 -- 112 -- 4.7 -- 54 -- 1 -- 6 -- 21 -- 3.5 -- 11 -- 0 BYE................................................................................................. ......................................................................................... 9 11/04 GB L 22-33 -- 19 -- 53 -- 2.8 -- 10 -- 1 -- 3 -- 42 -- 14.0 -- 30T -- 1

sorry Goat, look at the stats his numbers WITH the team arent good enough to say look LJ won those games for us.

we need to trade him and use the picks to continue to rebuild he got paid and got lazy

cant get it to line up, sorry

p.s. yes i understand his lazy :cuss: killed most of his trade value.

Chiefaholic
12-31-2007, 10:20 AM
I'de almost bet Carl uses our first pick in the draft on a DE for contract negotiations just like he did when Priest wanted big money.

KCrockaholic
12-31-2007, 11:41 AM
He's also only about a sack or two away from passing Eric Hicks on the chiefs all-time sacks list

what about Derrick Thomas bud? he had 20 in 1 season, Hicks had 17

Thig Lyfe
12-31-2007, 11:43 AM
what about Derrick Thomas bud? he had 20 in 1 season, Hicks had 17

Uh, yeah. He never said Hicks was #1.

dtebbe
12-31-2007, 12:05 PM
Allan needs to be paid. I wonder if LJ would do a restructure to help with cap space since he bombed out this season right after he got his big contract.

PhilFree:arrow:

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

RINGLEADER
12-31-2007, 12:41 PM
Jared Allen deserves to be paid big money. Dwight Freeney got an insane contract so I'd hope that doesn't become the benchmark but JA should get major coin. He's the heart and soul of the defense.