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Rain Man
01-01-2008, 11:25 PM
In the NFL, we definitely see an Old Boy's Network in place. Coaches have "their guys", who they bring with them in any job. For every Herm Edwards, there's a Dick Curl on his coat tail. When Dick Vermeil arrived, he brought a legion of gray-haired old guys in minor roles. Every time a new coach comes in, he brings along guys that are "his team" and kicks out most or all of the existing staff who currently hold the jobs.

I think the same thing often happens in the real world, too, at least at the CEO level. You hear about the CEO coming in, and then pretty soon he's got a whole team of loyal assistants on board. Same with government, though that's a little more institutionalized in the party system.

So my question is, have you ever had a boss where you were one of "his guys" and followed him from position to position? Or as a boss, do you have people who are "your people" who you have pulled along with you as your career advanced? Just curious. I never had a boss who ran interference for me and pulled me upwards, and it seems like it would be a nice thing.

Phobia
01-01-2008, 11:27 PM
I've only been carried by bosses who were going down with the ship.

Brock
01-01-2008, 11:29 PM
Then, at places like Arrowhead, there are the undead. Actually no, Arrowhead is the only place this happens.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/darvin_wallis/

Mr. Flopnuts
01-01-2008, 11:29 PM
It is a nice thing. I've been on both ends of it. You get in where you fit in. You work closely with individuals and you gain an insight into their thought processes. When you find one that closely matches your own, that's called teamwork. ROFL

Pitt Gorilla
01-01-2008, 11:41 PM
Risk management?

DaneMcCloud
01-01-2008, 11:48 PM
Yeah, once.

I did a few "Special Projects" for a superior that was out of my department at Universal. He left for Paramount and once he evaluated his team, he brought me in as his "right-hand man" and soon thereafter, we cleaned house. I brought in a protege at Universal to work under me.

It's nice to have hard working people you can trust.

Though in Dick Curl's case, we've yet to find out exactly what positives he brings to the table.

Though I hear he makes a mean crab bisque that he serves to the other coaches that work late.

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2008, 02:31 AM
Then, at places like Arrowhead, there are the undead. Actually no, Arrowhead is the only place this happens.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/darvin_wallis/

Holy ****. 1989 to 2007.

Discuss Thrower
01-02-2008, 02:39 AM
And, it doesn't appear that he ever played a down of football. Maybe there is hope for me being able to coach somewhere...



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Bleh, there is a better chance of this board never seeing an antifreeze joke after this post than me becoming a coach.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-02-2008, 02:44 AM
Then, at places like Arrowhead, there are the undead. Actually no, Arrowhead is the only place this happens.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/darvin_wallis/


I don't get it?

Count Alex's Losses
01-02-2008, 02:50 AM
I don't get it?

Darvin Wallis has been with the Chiefs since 1989. NINETEEN ****ING EIGHTY NINE!

Mr. Flopnuts
01-02-2008, 03:14 AM
Darvin Wallis has been with the Chiefs since 1989. NINETEEN ****ING EIGHTY NINE!



K. That's a long time. A REALLY LONG ****ING TIME!

Mr. Flopnuts
01-02-2008, 03:17 AM
Darvin Wallis has been with the Chiefs since 1989. NINETEEN ****ING EIGHTY NINE!


I read the guys page, but I didn't see any ties to Carl before 89. I guess I'm wondering, where the **** did he come from? Was he a Marty leecher that sucked onto Carls hip or what?

Deberg_1990
01-02-2008, 03:19 AM
Then, at places like Arrowhead, there are the undead. Actually no, Arrowhead is the only place this happens.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/darvin_wallis/

Dudes got pics of Carl and some floozy after a wild night of booze in Mexico no doubt. LMAO

chagrin
01-02-2008, 08:19 AM
Risk management?


Ovaltine....you heard of this stuff? The mug is round, the jar is round...they should call it Roundtine; you know what I'm talking about.

Fly O.T. McWall
01-02-2008, 08:43 AM
Dudes got pics of Carl and Nick Athan after a wild night of booze in Mexico no doubt. LMAO
fyp

HonestChieffan
01-02-2008, 08:49 AM
Sure it happens in business, it almost has to. New hires need a "sponsor" to move into higher levels. Those people have a certain tie to that sponsor as well as to others that guy has helped move up..they become the core of his or her support as he moves up. They are people who trust each other as well as those above who smooth the way up.

Those people starting out who understand this process and work with it are the ones who get promoted and have more and more resposibility given to them. Those who do not understand it are the ones who always wonder why the other guy or gal gets promoted, why they are always almost but not quite picked. If they try to overcome this with harder and harder work, they become great worker bees and play a role in the organization and will be thrown bits to keep them happy. Those who dont "get it" and get a bad attitude are allowed to walk or are shown the door.