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Direckshun
01-02-2008, 11:03 PM
He's back, and he's writing solo.

I understand he's under the pressure of writing a one-hour show five times a week, so of course he's going to run out of ideas, but he could not come up with a single decent idea for a 15 minute opening segment that he literally had a week and a half to plan for.

He spent the entire time dicking around, once actually spinning a ring on his desk for part of the time.

It was amusing 'til you figured out what it meant: that without his writers, Conan's got nothing.

Shame, 'cause Conan's one of my faves.

Did anybody catch Leno?

CoMoChief
01-02-2008, 11:05 PM
He's back, and he's writing solo.

I understand he's under the pressure of writing a one-hour show five times a week, so of course he's going to run out of ideas, but he could not come up with a single decent idea for a 15 minute opening segment that he literally had a week and a half to plan for.

He spent the entire time dicking around, once actually spinning a ring on his desk for part of the time.

It was amusing 'til you figured out what it meant: that without his writers, Conan's got nothing.

Shame, 'cause Conan's one of my faves.

Did anybody catch Leno?
No show is anything without their writers.

pr_capone
01-02-2008, 11:06 PM
I'm being amused which is better than anything re-runs could ever give me. :)

Direckshun
01-02-2008, 11:07 PM
I'm reserving judgment. I bet Leno can pull it off, he's a writing machine.

Stewart and Colbert have very tall tasks in store for themselves, though.

Joie
01-02-2008, 11:08 PM
I haven't really missed the writers. I guess that shows how much I watch network TV.

Baconeater
01-02-2008, 11:08 PM
Is Leno going without writers or did he make a deal with them like Letterman?

Direckshun
01-02-2008, 11:08 PM
Is Leno going without writers or did he make a deal with them like Letterman?
He's sans writers.

Guru
01-02-2008, 11:10 PM
Is Leno going without writers or did he make a deal with them like Letterman?
He is 100% writer free.

Baconeater
01-02-2008, 11:10 PM
I haven't really missed the writers. I guess that shows how much I watch network TV.
That's ok, no one really missed you when you were gone either.

Joie
01-02-2008, 11:11 PM
That's ok, no one really missed you when you were gone either.
:(

Frazod
01-02-2008, 11:11 PM
I actually wonder if O'Brien is deliberately sucking to make a point.

luv
01-02-2008, 11:12 PM
Is Leno going without writers or did he make a deal with them like Letterman?
Letterman made a deal? I heard he was doing his own.

Direckshun
01-02-2008, 11:12 PM
Seriously, I could have put forth a show with as much coherence and entertainment as O'Brien has today. Considering that this is his first day back, and he's had literally a week and a half to prepare, the next however-many shows that he only has a day are sure to be either snooze-fests, disasters, or both.

Extra Point
01-02-2008, 11:12 PM
Huckabee was fun to watch on Leno tonite. Good timing on his part.

I can see how Conan can crash, as he may be over-writing for himself. Leno is much better at improv and has way more experience working the crowd and working the guests into the audience.

Baconeater
01-02-2008, 11:14 PM
:(
Oh quit it. You know that's a lie anyway.

Letterman made a deal? I heard he was doing his own.
That's my understanding.

Direckshun
01-02-2008, 11:14 PM
Yeah, 'cause Conan's 14 years of having his own show isn't nearly enough experience of working the crowd or the guests.

Joie
01-02-2008, 11:16 PM
Oh quit it. You know that's a lie anyway.
Gawd Damned Nebraskan :p

Baconeater
01-02-2008, 11:19 PM
Letterman made a deal?
Confirmed (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071228/ts_afp/entertainmentusfilmtelevisionlaborstrike_071228234223)

Baconeater
01-02-2008, 11:19 PM
Gawd Damned Nebraskan :p
Confirmed as well.

luv
01-02-2008, 11:23 PM
Confirmed (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071228/ts_afp/entertainmentusfilmtelevisionlaborstrike_071228234223)
I was only half listening to the morning show on the radio on my way to work this morning. They grouped him with Jay and Conan.

Mr. Laz
01-02-2008, 11:30 PM
I actually wonder if O'Brien is deliberately sucking to make a point.
exactly ....... Conan was a writer for SNL when it was good.

he's a quality writer and he's taking a dive

Ultra Peanut
01-02-2008, 11:31 PM
I haven't seen it, but I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he happened to be sandbagging it as a sign of solidarity.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-02-2008, 11:32 PM
Conan was a rock solid writer from the Simpsons to SNL. He's listening to his inner "Brick Top".

Direckshun
01-02-2008, 11:32 PM
exactly ....... Conan was a writer for SNL when it was good.

he's a quality writer and he's taking a dive
Yeah it's totally out of the question that having other people write your material for a decade and a half has caused you to lose your burst.

bdeg
01-02-2008, 11:35 PM
It was painful listening to Saget too, yuck. I loved how at the end Conan just told him to shut up and didn't say another word to him.

*Not the end I guess, after the 2nd ring spin.

KcMizzou
01-02-2008, 11:37 PM
I haven't seen it, but I definitely wouldn't be surprised if he happened to be sandbagging it as a sign of solidarity.I'd lean that way, just because I like the guy.

Mr. Laz
01-02-2008, 11:41 PM
Yeah it's totally out of the question that having other people write your material for a decade and a half has caused you to lose your burst.
dude ..... i'm not gonna argue about it.

i imagine he can't have cue cards either


he doesn't want to look like he's got writers either.

Mr. Laz
01-02-2008, 11:43 PM
wow ... little girl on Carson is pretty freaking good.

singing Alisha Keys

Guru
01-02-2008, 11:49 PM
wow ... little girl on Carson is pretty freaking good.

singing Alisha Keys
When I see Carson, I still think Johnny.

HolmeZz
01-03-2008, 12:04 AM
I guess I'm the only one who didn't have any problem with Conan.

Guru
01-03-2008, 12:05 AM
I guess I'm the only one who didn't have any problem with Conan.
I didn't see it so I can't say one way or another.

bowener
01-03-2008, 12:07 AM
I'm reserving judgment. I bet Leno can pull it off, he's a writing machine.

Stewart and Colbert have very tall tasks in store for themselves, though.

I think they will do alright, they have always written a ton for their own shows.

HolmeZz
01-03-2008, 12:09 AM
I don't think the show was written anyway, D. Conan said the show would have to be unwritten, I assume because he himself is a member of the WGA.

Joie
01-03-2008, 12:17 AM
When I see Carson, I still think Johnny.
Me too. It took a moment to realize who he was talking about.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-03-2008, 12:22 AM
exactly ....... Conan was a writer for SNL when it was good.

he's a quality writer and he's taking a dive


It comes on in an hour here, and I'll be watching for sure. If Conan is blowing it, he's doing it on purpose. He also wrote for the Simpsons in the beginning. He's comedy gold IRL!!!!11!!!!!!

Jamie
01-03-2008, 12:36 AM
I thought as members of the Writer's Guild guys like Conan and John Stewart couldn't actually write for their shows.

If the strike lasts a while it'll be interesting to see how Conan adapts his show. Leno has it easier since his background is in stand-up and a lot of his bits don't have to be written (headlines, any of the things where he talks to people on the street), but like half of Conan's show is scripted comedy bits. He's kind of screwed. They should try and get Andy back, at least until the strike is over.

HolmeZz
01-03-2008, 12:38 AM
I thought as members of the Writer's Guild guys like Conan and John Stewart couldn't actually write for their shows.

Yeah, they can't. Conan said the show would have to be unwritten.

Thig Lyfe
01-03-2008, 01:05 AM
I can see how Conan can crash, as he may be over-writing for himself. Leno is much better at improv and has way more experience working the crowd and working the guests into the audience.

Wow, NO way. Leno is awful and is not an improviser. On the flip side, Conan is funniest in his on-location bits where all he does is improvise.

I rather enjoyed his return tonight. There were some pretty funny moments. It'll take a bit for him to get his footing back (he's been out for two months, after all) but to say that he "fails" at writing is silly and wrong (considering his Harvard Lampoon/Simpsons writing background).

Thig Lyfe
01-03-2008, 01:09 AM
I guess I'm the only one who didn't have any problem with Conan.

I liked it more than Letterman, and he had writers.

Conan was funny and has enough talent to do this until the strike ends.

Bump
01-03-2008, 01:18 AM
I actually wonder if O'Brien is deliberately sucking to make a point.

that's my first thought too. Conan is kinda like that, he'll make fun of himself with no problem. Maybe he "sucked" intentionally...or maybe he just can't write for his show??

Thig Lyfe
01-03-2008, 01:24 AM
that's my first thought too. Conan is kinda like that, he'll make fun of himself with no problem. Maybe he "sucked" intentionally...or maybe he just can't write for his show??

He didn't suck. And he couldn't write it; he could only perform his host role. He's part of the writing staff usually, but the writer part of him is still on strike. So now he's just improvising. And I think he's done a good job in his usual self-deprecating way. He makes fun of himself, the show and jokes that don't work every night.

Bits like him playing with the Conan and Lincoln action figures were pretty great. He certainly would like his writers back, but he'll survive in the meantime.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-03-2008, 02:10 AM
I missed the first few minutes of the show, but I think he was just messing around. I think the fact that he didn't have writers was a joke itself to Conan. He showed glimpses of his inner funny with the Edith rendition of the Beastie Boys. I chuckled pretty good at that.

Fruit Ninja
01-03-2008, 02:40 AM
No show is anything without their writers.
What you said. There's no way they can do it all. Conan was a writer before but its just not going to be the same :)

cadmonkey
01-03-2008, 06:56 AM
I actually wonder if O'Brien is deliberately sucking to make a point.

That would be pretty good for him to do.

I watched Letterman last night and he was completely out of wack. He would ask someone a question in the audience and have nothing to say back to them. It was very odd.

LiL stumppy
01-03-2008, 07:16 AM
It makes me laugh when he dicks around so I will watch it. I caught Leno for a few min. the other night, and it looked pretty good from what I saw.

DaKCMan AP
01-03-2008, 07:21 AM
I love Conan, I just can't stay awake to watch him.

Messier
01-03-2008, 08:13 AM
The only problem for Leno is that he's not funny, with or without writers.

Conan was more funny doing nothing, goofing around than Leno ever was.

JBucc
01-03-2008, 08:15 AM
He should shave his head on air. That would funny.

DaKCMan AP
01-03-2008, 08:16 AM
He should shave his head on air. That would funny.

No way. Conan's hair is a living organism!

chasedude
01-03-2008, 08:21 AM
I watched Letterman last night and he was completely out of wack. He would ask someone a question in the audience and have nothing to say back to them. It was very odd.


:) Maybe his funny bone is lost in that mass of "grandfather winter" beard he has.

MahiMike
01-03-2008, 08:38 AM
Letterman looked like he didn't want to be there. Thank goodness for Robin Williams. But now what?

I think the writers are licking their chops. A couple weeks of this and their concessions will be met.

Baby Lee
01-03-2008, 08:43 AM
It comes on in an hour here, and I'll be watching for sure. If Conan is blowing it, he's doing it on purpose. He also wrote for the Simpsons in the beginning. He's comedy gold IRL!!!!11!!!!!!
Shouldn't it be roundtine?

cadmonkey
01-03-2008, 08:53 AM
:) Maybe his funny bone is lost in that mass of "grandfather winter" beard he has.


that was really odd. i hope he shaves that off soon

Demonpenz
01-03-2008, 09:12 AM
i watched leno's it was solid as usual

chasedude
01-03-2008, 09:15 AM
Shouldn't it be roundtine?

That's Gold Jerry! Gold!

chiefqueen
01-03-2008, 11:23 AM
that was really odd. i hope he shaves that off soon

Would tonite be soon enough, or too late?

Thig Lyfe
01-03-2008, 11:28 AM
The only problem for Leno is that he's not funny, with or without writers.

Conan was more funny doing nothing, goofing around than Leno ever was.

Quoted for indisputable truth.

Direckshun
01-03-2008, 01:00 PM
I watched Letterman last night and he was completely out of wack. He would ask someone a question in the audience and have nothing to say back to them. It was very odd.
Audience member: I'm a veterinarian.

Dave: So, you work with animals?

ROFL

QuikSsurfer
01-03-2008, 01:18 PM
Audience member: I'm a veterinarian.

Dave: So, you work with animals?

ROFL
"haven't seen an animal in 11 years" ::slaps tummy::

StcChief
01-03-2008, 01:48 PM
I can't believe these unions are holding them hostage.

unothadeal
01-03-2008, 07:34 PM
ROFL
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Thig Lyfe
01-04-2008, 10:55 PM
Conan rocked out tonight... played a full song with the band. Pretty cool.

Ultra Peanut
01-04-2008, 11:25 PM
Okay, the Rock Band segment (http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/01/03/conan-obrien-hijacks-rock-band-session-to-attempt-radiohead-beastie-boys-covers/) was hilarious. Edith Bunker singing Sabotage. Jesus.

jjchieffan
01-04-2008, 11:36 PM
Writers or no, Letterman is not funny ever. I watch his show and just sit there thinking, was that supposed to be funny? I don't know how he has stayed on the air so long.His stuff is about as dumb as that Anchorman movie. Totally lame.