View Full Version : Is America getting better or worse?

01-05-2008, 01:26 PM
Good news ahead. From The Economist:

“Both violent crime and property crime have declined dramatically since 1973. New York City will probably notch up less than 500 murders this year, the lowest since the early 1960’s (the figure for 1990 was 2,262.) Teenagers are cleaning up their act. Teenage drug use has fallen by 23% overall since the 1990’s, and by 50% for LSD and ecstasy. Teens are drinking less, smoking less, having sex less and dropping out of school less. The birth rate for 15-19-year-olds has fallen by 35% since 1991. At 10%, the high-school drop-out rate is at a 30-year low.

Welfare reform is working. The welfare caseload has dropped by 60% since 1994. A series of social evils — overall poverty, child poverty, child hunger — have all decreased. Employment figures for single mothers have surged. The number of abortions fell from over 1.6m in 1990 to fewer than 1.3m this year. The divorce rate is at its lowest level since 1970. Education scores are up.”

01-05-2008, 01:30 PM
wow I had no idea things were so good.

01-05-2008, 01:44 PM
I don't know, I think you can just take a look at numbers in a place like Central Florida, where I live. The murder rate was the highest in the nation a year ago I believe. With all the immigration, and New Yorkers moving here (yes, I am being a tad bit sarcastic), we see things changing, and not in a good way, here.

The education scores here (Florida still), I will bet are lower than many places. While I lived in Michigan, I noticed that they put more money into the education system than many states, and enjoy some of the best schools in the country.

252 million people in the country, where freedom reigns supreme; we're always going to have a high murder rate, etc.

I'm always amused with those who cry wolf about civil liberties being taken away, waxing poetically about European countries enjoying lower murder rates (Africa and the Middle East not withstanding of course, even the freaks don't go that direction). Guess what people, it's because the Government rules the lives of the people in those other countries. Socialism, Communism, it's about Government control.

Here, we are allowed to do whatever we want, except there are consequences. There's really no argument to be had; people make choices, people have to pay for their choices - the law will always be here, tough shit.

We enjoy life in the best country (in many aspects) in the world.

Anyway, not trying to fight with you Jenson, just posting what I was thinking about some things. :)

01-05-2008, 01:49 PM
So from this thread I am gathering that Florida sucks and the rest of the country seems to be doing pretty well.

01-05-2008, 02:45 PM
The Economist = obviously not a Chiefs fan.