Will nearly crying on camera work for Hillary?

[Taco John]

I guess we get to find out (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4097366)

[Dr.Fine]

Barbara Special to follow...

[Infidel Goat]

Edwards has been talking the last few days about how the cause has to be personal for a candidate to follow through on their plan.

With that, Hillary cries on cue and uses the words "very personal."

Bravo!

[jAZ]

That's pathetic...

She started out good until she started going back to her talking points.

That just looks calculated.

[jAZ]

This is how you do it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4096333

[Mr. Kotter]

Fans of "The View" will be firmly in Hill's camp after this; she may be trying to move in on "Oprah" fans to....uh-oh. :eek:

[Dr.Fine]

course it's not much more calculating and pathetic than Edward's tripe either.

[Cochise]

So we've moved on from entitlement to sympathy...

I expected them to move on to ultra-negative first.

[Taco John]

So we've moved on from entitlement to sympathy...

I expected them to move on to ultra-negative first.



The already did that with the coke dealing accusations and grade school essays that blew up in their faces. They've got few cards left in the deck...

[patteeu]

BTW, dirk digler, that's what it looks like when someone is close to crying.

[Cochise]

The already did that with the coke dealing accusations and grade school essays that blew up in their faces. They've got few cards left in the deck...

Maybe whatever Novak mentioned that they were sitting on is still around. I didn't think the cocaine thing was big enough to be that. It wasn't even really news, I think it had been reported before.

Problem is though that unless it's something really bad, Obama can sweep it aside and people will think it's just a Clinton dirty trick.

There could be something out there that would really damage him, if it were character-related or cut at his appeal as a nice, honest, principled guy. If it's some youthful mistake from 20 years ago it's not going to be a problem.

[dirk digler]

This is how you do it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4096333

If you can't get inspired by Obama I question that anything or anybody will inspire you.

Thanks for the link Jaz great stuff.

BTW, dirk digler, that's what it looks like when someone is close to crying.

LMAO

I swear I saw tears welling up in Romney's eyes when he was getting the shit kicked out of him :)

[patteeu]

LMAO

I swear I saw tears welling up in Romney's eyes when he was getting the shit kicked out of him :)

Those weren't tears... they were a gleam! :p

[Mr Luzcious]

Fans of "The View" will be firmly in Hill's camp after this; she may be trying to move in on "Oprah" fans to....uh-oh. :eek:

I guess Irishjayhawk has found his new candidate!

[jAZ]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/rival-reacts-to.html

Rivals Reacts to Teary Clinton
January 07, 2008 2:42 PM

ABC News' David Muir, Raelyn Johnson and Sunlen Miller Report: Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., on the tail end of his 36-hour campaigning marathon in New Hampshire on day before the primary vote, reacted to rival Sen. Hillary Clinton's emotional moment Monday.

Edwards offered little sympathy and pounced on the opportunity to question Clinton's ability to endure the stresses of the presidency.

"I think what we need in a commander-in-chief is strength and resolve, and presidential campaigns are tough business, but being president of the United States is also tough business," Edwards told reporters Laconia, New Hampshire.

[banyon]

course it's not much more calculating and pathetic than Edward's tripe either.

Back that up will ya?

[Infidel Goat]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/rival-reacts-to.html

Rivals Reacts to Teary Clinton
January 07, 2008 2:42 PM

ABC News' David Muir, Raelyn Johnson and Sunlen Miller Report: Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., on the tail end of his 36-hour campaigning marathon in New Hampshire on day before the primary vote, reacted to rival Sen. Hillary Clinton's emotional moment Monday.

Edwards offered little sympathy and pounced on the opportunity to question Clinton's ability to endure the stresses of the presidency.

"I think what we need in a commander-in-chief is strength and resolve, and presidential campaigns are tough business, but being president of the United States is also tough business," Edwards told reporters Laconia, New Hampshire.


Probably tactical on his part as well...

Clinton's female vote will go to Oprah's guy. Edwards is further positioning himself as the tough fighter. Maybe he hopes to pull more of the male vote his way...

[Cochise]

Back that up will ya?


"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."



In my 25 years in Washington, I have never seen a more loathsome display of demagoguery. Hope is good. False hope is bad. Deliberately, for personal gain, raising false hope in the catastrophically afflicted is despicable.

Where does one begin to deconstruct this outrage?

First, the inability of the human spinal cord to regenerate is one of the great mysteries of biology. The answer is not remotely around the corner. It could take a generation to unravel. To imply, as Edwards did, that it is imminent if only you elect the right politicians is scandalous.

Second, if the cure for spinal cord injury comes, we have no idea where it will come from. There are many lines of inquiry. Stem cell research is just one of many possibilities, and a very speculative one at that. For 30 years I have heard promises of miracle cures for paralysis (including my own, suffered as a medical student). The last fad, fetal tissue transplants, was thought to be a sure thing. Nothing came of it.

As a doctor by training, I've known better than to believe the hype -- and have tried in my own counseling of people with new spinal cord injuries to place the possibility of cure in abeyance. I advise instead to concentrate on making a life (and a very good life it can be) with the hand one is dealt. The greatest enemies of this advice have been the snake-oil salesmen promising a miracle around the corner. I never expected a candidate for vice president to be one of them.

Third, the implication that Christopher Reeve was prevented from getting out of his wheelchair by the Bush stem cell policies is a travesty.

[Dr.Fine]

thx cochise-I'd like to like Edwards, really I would. He grew up not 30 miles from me, his parents came to my son's 3rd grade class a few years back, he was my State Senator (in absentia), and I consider myself a Progressive Dem...I have a lot of respect for Elizabeth and think she'd make a great 1st Lady, but Kraut pretty much summed him up--he offers hope as a means to fulfill his ambition and satisfy his ego. We're staring at the modern day equivalent of the end of the Roman Empire, and Bush & Co just laid a brick on the gas pedal. Great Populist message from the man, but no plan to pay for it--simply wants to get elected...pretty transparent to me. Add to that the need to pull the Country together (or a Herculean attempt to do so) and he's clearly not the guy.

[Taco John]

Edwards has been talking the last few days about how the cause has to be personal for a candidate to follow through on their plan.

With that, Hillary cries on cue and uses the words "very personal."

Bravo!


Edwards is playing her like a freaking chess master (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/rival-reacts-to.html). Impressive to watch him set her up, and then spike it in her face when she does just what he thought she would do.

Someone in the Edwards campaign has done their homework.

[Fishpicker]

Edwards is the one person that makes Hillary seem sincere.

[patteeu]

Edwards offered little sympathy and pounced on the opportunity to question Clinton's ability to endure the stresses of the presidency.

"I think what we need in a commander-in-chief is strength and resolve, and presidential campaigns are tough business, but being president of the United States is also tough business," Edwards told reporters Laconia, New Hampshire.

LMAO

[BucEyedPea]

So Edwards is a sexist?

[Cochise]

Haha. Edwards saying someone else isn't tough enough.

[Infidel Goat]

Haha. Edwards saying someone else isn't tough enough.

Edwards was a walk-on for Clemson's football team at one time.

Make jokes about his hair all you want, but he'd probably be the toughest guy on either side of the campaign except McCain...

[Infidel Goat]

So Edwards is a sexist?

I don't know.

If it were the general election, he'd probably have said it about Mitt Romney as well last week...

I think I would have simply said: "There's no crying in baseball!" and left it at that...

[Dr.Fine]

oh I wouldn't count him out--he's nothing if not shrewd and tough. he's probably been underestimated many times. he'd make a great proto-type for one of Tarantino's characters.

[mlyonsd]

Edwards was a walk-on for Clemson's football team at one time.

Make jokes about his hair all you want, but he'd probably be the toughest guy on either side of the campaign except McCain...

Hillary would not only kick his ass in a cage match but would also whip him 5 out of 5 in an arm wrestling match after 3 pitchers of beer.

[BucEyedPea]

I don't know.

If it were the general election, he'd probably have said it about Mitt Romney as well last week...

I think I would have simply said: "There's no crying in baseball!" and left it at that...
Ain't nothing wrong with crying. Men should do it more imo. I have to admit I felt a little bad for her in that clip. I really think she thought she had it bagged.

[banyon]

...

How about something from when he was campaigning for himself and not when Kerry's people were writing his scripts?

[banyon]

thx cochise-I'd like to like Edwards, really I would. He grew up not 30 miles from me, his parents came to my son's 3rd grade class a few years back, he was my State Senator (in absentia), and I consider myself a Progressive Dem...I have a lot of respect for Elizabeth and think she'd make a great 1st Lady, but Kraut pretty much summed him up--he offers hope as a means to fulfill his ambition and satisfy his ego. We're staring at the modern day equivalent of the end of the Roman Empire, and Bush & Co just laid a brick on the gas pedal. Great Populist message from the man, but no plan to pay for it--simply wants to get elected...pretty transparent to me. Add to that the need to pull the Country together (or a Herculean attempt to do so) and he's clearly not the guy.

He's got some of the most detailed policy positions (http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/) of any Dem Candidate. Obama and Hillary basically waited for him to lay out his Health Care proposal and then thy modeled theirs after it, tinkering with it to make it more palatable to the other side of the aisle.

[Adam]

A great performance by Hillary. My wife is planning to vote for Obama. I'm gonna show her this vid to see if she has any sympathy or if she scoffs. (I'm predicting scoffing.)

[Adam]

Update: She gave a mild scoff. She didn't think it "was a total act", but it didn't buy her anything.

[Cochise]

How about something from when he was campaigning for himself and not when Kerry's people were writing his scripts?

No matter who is writing it, anybody who would willingly recite that tripe is a complete fraud, IMO. That's one of the worst things I've ever heard said in American politics. In fact, I'm not sure I can think of anything worse.

[patteeu]

I bet Mitt Romney makes your wife horny. Show her some Mitt videos and you might get lucky tonight. :)

[Dr.Fine]

He's got some of the most detailed policy positions (http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/) of any Dem Candidate. Obama and Hillary basically waited for him to lay out his Health Care proposal and then thy modeled theirs after it, tinkering with it to make it more palatable to the other side of the aisle.

lotsa words for sure--he's gonna build the world's middle class-by enforcing and proposing tougher trade laws--with who-China? lol-good luck with that. like i said, sounds great, probably gets votes too. admirable goals even-NAFTA/CAFTA--just like immigration--lots of complaints-thorny issues-numerous simplistic proposals for highly complex problems. best ideas on trade I've heard came (not surprisingly) from BC-can't stop Industrial migration, so create/cultivate new markets in our hemisphere--requiring we help our Southern and Northern neighbors become economically viable customers, and, incidentally helping with the immigration problem. say what you will about his faults, but the man was brilliant, and we need someone like him quick, to start bailing the water from the boat. Edwards is a Populist pure & simple, in a not-so-simple world, and while I hate to judge him on purely on superficial evidence, it sure is tempting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q

[StcChief]

not sure if the feminists would support that approach

[Calcountry]

Exactly what is it that we have to reverse in this country?