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Chiefmanwillcatch
01-07-2008, 04:58 PM
I think it's genetics and naturally heavy people having more kids.

I don't see obesity in other countries.

kstater
01-07-2008, 04:59 PM
Eating too much and not burning enough? :shrug:

Demonpenz
01-07-2008, 05:00 PM
long work hours fast food and lazyness. white color jobs

Hydrae
01-07-2008, 05:01 PM
Laziness in the American populous.

BigMeatballDave
01-07-2008, 05:01 PM
Too much unhealthy eating. Its a fact, though, that some people can eat and eat and eat, and hardly gain weight. I have a niece who is 16. She's a twig. Eats like there is NO tomorrow.

ClevelandBronco
01-07-2008, 05:02 PM
Changing from sugar to corn syrup.

Skip Towne
01-07-2008, 05:03 PM
Consuming more calories than you burn.

Chiefs_5627
01-07-2008, 05:03 PM
The internet, video games and that mf'n dollar menue. :p

JBucc
01-07-2008, 05:04 PM
Being too fat

Bob Dole
01-07-2008, 05:05 PM
Phobia.

stumppy
01-07-2008, 05:06 PM
Phobia.

Thats just the women.

Simplex3
01-07-2008, 05:06 PM
For me it was a combination of factors. All-day snacking, eating mostly pre-packaged foods, high stress, low activity, lack of sleep, you name it. If it has been named a possible contributor in a study I was doing it.

I've found that exercise is the key to weight loss for me. I can control my eating and not lose. If I have have some modicum of control I can still eat as long as I work out regularly.

What are the societal factors that drive these behaviors? We don't have that kind of time.

:)

SBK
01-07-2008, 05:07 PM
Wearing clothes while we eat. If we all ate while sitting naked in front of a mirror nobody would be fat.

bowener
01-07-2008, 05:08 PM
Changing from sugar to corn syrup.

This is quite true! 1 can of pop (12 oz.) a day, for one year, will cause you to gain roughly 15 pounds alone...

Also, in other countries when you eat at a Mcdonalds or whatever, their large drinks are smaller than our mediums here... I have an uncle (who is massive) and he always orders the biggest damn jug he can (filled with Diet Coke of course... bc it matters :shake: ). The amount of food we eat as well is horrible. A normal portion is the size of your fist... now think about some of the meals you have loaded onto your plate at bonzana or golden corral or Ryans or any chinease buffet...

For a fun example of our food, watch super size me, its kind of funny as well.

Chiefs_5627
01-07-2008, 05:12 PM
Im gettin hungry.

el borracho
01-07-2008, 05:14 PM
Food is much more available now than at any other time in human history and requires less physical effort to obtain.

Bob Dole
01-07-2008, 05:14 PM
Thats just the women.

And?

Bob Dole doesn't really give a shit if all the guys are fat ****s.

Bearcat
01-07-2008, 05:16 PM
The amount we eat is a really good point versus other countries. I worked with a guy from Vietnam who brought in this tiny tupperware dish everyday for lunch, and he mentioned a couple of times how surprised he was at how much we ate. I've never been able to put on weight, and I couldn't imagine eating what had to be 3oz. of food for lunch.

I've always laughed when the box says 'serves 4!', because it's one meal to me... but in other countries, it really would serve 4.

bowener
01-07-2008, 05:16 PM
As my wise stepfather has always told me, "fat women give you warmth in the winter, and shade in the summer." :shake:

I still cant do it, Id rather be cold and sunburnt.

Chieficus
01-07-2008, 05:17 PM
The internet, video games and that mf'n dollar menue. :p

I think that's a part of it: the more we've increased our technological capabilities and the more we've urbanized, we've become busier with less physical activity.

Thus, we consume, we sit, we get fat (most cases, not all cases).

Healthier eating will help, but we also need to get more physical activity back in our lifestyles...

eazyb81
01-07-2008, 05:19 PM
Also, in other countries when you eat at a Mcdonalds or whatever, their large drinks are smaller than our mediums here... I have an uncle (who is massive) and he always orders the biggest damn jug he can (filled with Diet Coke of course... bc it matters :shake: ). The amount of food we eat as well is horrible. A normal portion is the size of your fist... now think about some of the meals you have loaded onto your plate at bonzana or golden corral or Ryans or any chinease buffet...


This reminds me of what my dad told me recently about McDonald's serving sizes back in the 70's. There was just a regular sized hamburger, and the "large" fries were in that little paper sack; their smallest serving of fries now is like 4x that size.

Also pop/soda was a luxury rather than something you drank with every meal. Crazy to think how much society has changed.

Bob Dole
01-07-2008, 05:19 PM
I think that's a part of it: the more we've increased our technological capabilities and the more we've urbanized, we've become busier with less physical activity.

Thus, we consume, we sit, we get fat (most cases, not all cases).

Healthier eating will help, but we also need to get more physical activity back in our lifestyles...


While you're up, could run and grab Bob Dole another 12-pack?

(Just trying to help.)

Chieficus
01-07-2008, 05:21 PM
While you're up, could run and grab Bob Dole another 12-pack?

(Just trying to help.)

A 12-pack of slim fast??? :jester:

Bob Dole
01-07-2008, 05:21 PM
Also pop/soda was a luxury rather than something you drank with every meal. Crazy to think how much society has changed.

When Bob Dole was a kid, an 8-pack of 16 oz Cokes lasted a family of 4 for 2 weeks.

Bob Dole
01-07-2008, 05:23 PM
A 12-pack of slim fast??? :jester:

WTF are you trying to say?

Bob Dole looks pretty damned good for a 65 year old man.

Chieficus
01-07-2008, 05:25 PM
WTF are you trying to say?

Bob Dole looks pretty damned good for a 65 year old man.

I ain't saying nothin'... Just asking for clarity...

I can also get a 12 pack of vitamin water or a 12 pack of crayola markers or a 12 pack of our little blue friends... Pepsi...

But this is the obesity thread...

:jester:

rageeumr
01-07-2008, 05:30 PM
I think genetics are far down the list of causes. Some people are predisposed to certain body types, but unless you have a glandular disorder, you can live at a healthy weight.

The way that I used to eat, I should have been the size of a house. Luckily, the heaviest I ever got was 212 (I am 6'-3" and rather lean muscle-wise). Since March I have been watching what I eat and running and I'm down to 170, which is 5 pounds above my high school football playing weight.

Why are people fat? For these reasons:

1.) They drink their calories.
2.) They pay no attention to the nutritional value of what they are eating.
3.) They eat so fast that they don't realize they are full. Either that, or they just enjoy the feeling of being miserably stuffed.
4.) People are busy, and it is really tough to find a healthy meal at a fast food place. Outside of sub sandwiches and grilled chicken, it's tough to do.
5.) A lot of people just don't understand how to eat healthy. They think that they are being healthy because they are cramming reduced fat Oreos down their throat 3 at a time. "Fat" doesn't make you fat. Calories make you fat. Fat causes plenty of other complications, but in the end it's not a bitter enemy, you just need to balace it just like you do your carbs and proteins.
6.) No discipline. This was my problem. I knew what I had to do, but I didn't have the motivation. Once I started finding athletic things harder for me to do (like skiing or playing football) I decided it was time for a change.

HemiEd
01-07-2008, 05:32 PM
I am taking a crash course called rehab, on that very subject now. It is diet and excercise, I don't buy the genetics cop out.

C-Mac
01-07-2008, 05:32 PM
I've always laughed when the box says 'serves 4!', because it's one meal to me... but in other countries, it really would serve 4.
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CoMoChief
01-07-2008, 05:32 PM
genetics and lack of diet/exercising while young.

Granted kids can almost eat whatever they want to as long as they are active they can usually almost burn all of it off. Of course they can't be on a sweets/junk food diet.

I didn't start really gaining weight until soph yr in college. Until then I was about 6'3 180lbs all through up HS. Now I'm 6'3 225, started to get a beer belly and my metabolism is slowing down because I don't have time to work out as much as I once did and now am trying to get back into shape around 205.

Swimming in the morning helps A LOT, for those of you who are able to. I highly suggest it.

jAZ
01-07-2008, 05:32 PM
High Fructose Corn Syrup + Massive Portions Justifying Price Increases = Fat Nation

Chiefmanwillcatch
01-07-2008, 05:35 PM
But there is no obesity in other countries like there is in the USA.

Face it. We love large people. We need them for good football teams too. lol.

eazyb81
01-07-2008, 05:35 PM
I am taking a crash course called rehab, on that very subject now. It is diet and excercise, I don't buy the genetics cop out.

I don't think anyone is forced to be obese because of genetics, but I definitely believe certain people are predisposed to obesity more than other people and they have to work harder at being thin and in shape.

eazyb81
01-07-2008, 05:37 PM
But there is no obesity in other countries like there is in the USA.

Face it. We love large people. We need them for good football teams too. lol.

Don't forget reality shows and BBW porn.

BigMeatballDave
01-07-2008, 05:38 PM
It is diet and excercise, I don't buy the genetics cop out.Its not a cop out. Some people can eat more than others. I know 2 guys at work that eat all day. Both are thin. They eat junk at work. Their wives make big dinners for them to bring to work. Its called metabolism. Everyone has a different one. Fat people can change theirs if they eat right and exercise.

Cochise
01-07-2008, 05:42 PM
People in other countries aren't as obese because they have better lifestyles.

In particular when I was in Europe this fall, I noticed that you do more walking in a day there then you do here in a week. For many people, a lot more. Here people just walk into their garage and drive their car to work and walk to their office or whatever. Over there you have to walk to the subway and down streets and all over the place. You have to carry groceries home, etc etc. It's not just transit... the whole time it felt like if you wanted anything in Europe you had to work for it.

I think a lot of it is basically because of the size of the United States. We can keep cities more spaced out, we drive everywhere, and driving not only limits exercise but it also started up the fast food industry which people are married to. It creates the perfect storm of poor diet and low exercise.

I can't remember seeing anyone there who was just grossly obese. It was quite noticeable. Here, you can't go anywhere without seeing someone like that.

Simplex3
01-07-2008, 05:42 PM
Its not a cop out. Some people can eat more than others. I know 2 guys at work that eat all day. Both are thin. They eat junk at work. Their wives make big dinners for them to bring to work. Its called metabolism. Everyone has a different one. Fat people can change theirs if they eat right and exercise.
This is true, but only to a degree. That's kind of like saying that anyone can be an NFL lineman if they just lift weights enough. While it's true that diet and exercise can modify your metabolism, it may also be true that some people are so far off to the other end of the scale that even after sliding it over it's not going to help a great deal.

Now, if you go with a starvation-type diet plan then obviously anyone can and will lose weight. No fat people walked out of Auschwitz. Of course neither did any healthy ones.

Demonpenz
01-07-2008, 05:44 PM
You know whats really shitty is i lift weights while i am at my cube at work and people make snide comments like "pumping iron?" real smart ass shit Like they want me to be embarrassed or some shit

Simplex3
01-07-2008, 05:44 PM
You know whats really shitty is i lift weights while i am at my cube at work and people make snide comments like "pumping iron?" real smart ass shit Like they want me to be embarrassed or some shit
Weights = moobs?

Bob Dole
01-07-2008, 05:45 PM
Carl Peterson.

CoMoChief
01-07-2008, 05:45 PM
If you really want to lose weight and fast read the first 75 or some pgs of "The Abs Diet" by David Zinczenko.

I think the guy was on Oprah or something I'm not sure I dont watch that damn show, but my Dad watches it sometimes with my step mom and they read this book and immediately eliminated a lot of the shit they were eating. I'll comment on this more later.

HemiEd
01-07-2008, 05:50 PM
I don't think anyone is forced to be obese because of genetics, but I definitely believe certain people are predisposed to obesity more than other people and they have to work harder at being thin and in shape.

Yeah, I was probably a little harsh. But when I was a kid, seeing a fat person was as rare as seeing a woman with huge tits, very unusual.

But now they are both very common, since implants and corn syrup/sodium filled fast food, have become the norm.

Have you ever gone to McDonald's or any those places nutritional facts website? Wow, just wow.

Chiefmanwillcatch
01-07-2008, 05:51 PM
extreme obesity can only be explained by genetics.

the brain is not getting the 'full' signal. Those people are always hungry

HemiEd
01-07-2008, 06:03 PM
Its not a cop out. Some people can eat more than others. I know 2 guys at work that eat all day. Both are thin. They eat junk at work. Their wives make big dinners for them to bring to work. Its called metabolism. Everyone has a different one. Fat people can change theirs if they eat right and exercise.

Yep, I was too harsh. But it is rare for someone to be fat just due to genetics. Heck in the 50s-60s you hardly ever saw a fat person. I find the evidence overwhelming, due to the growth of fast food chains and quick food in general. Coupled with our increasingly sedentary lifstye as many posters have mentioned, it is what it is.

However, metabolism changes with age. When I joined the Navy, I weighed 143 pounds at over 6 ft. I could pack away two large Pizza Hut Pizzas and a pitcher of beer no problem. Up until my 40s I still weighed 160 lbs. and was regulary consuming probably close to 5500 calories a day. I allowed myself to become obese due to lack of excercise and a shitty diet like a lot of people.

Spott
01-07-2008, 06:59 PM
Just ask Mangino.

banyon
01-07-2008, 07:02 PM
People in other countries aren't as obese because they have better lifestyles.

In particular when I was in Europe this fall, I noticed that you do more walking in a day there then you do here in a week. For many people, a lot more. Here people just walk into their garage and drive their car to work and walk to their office or whatever. Over there you have to walk to the subway and down streets and all over the place. You have to carry groceries home, etc etc. It's not just transit... the whole time it felt like if you wanted anything in Europe you had to work for it.

I think a lot of it is basically because of the size of the United States. We can keep cities more spaced out, we drive everywhere, and driving not only limits exercise but it also started up the fast food industry which people are married to. It creates the perfect storm of poor diet and low exercise.

I can't remember seeing anyone there who was just grossly obese. It was quite noticeable. Here, you can't go anywhere without seeing someone like that.

This is it 100%.Exactly what I saw in Europe too. The Irish drank just as much and ate what they wanted, but they had to walk it all off the next day.

thepascalblaze
01-07-2008, 07:34 PM
There are some really interesting studies with rats concerning the bacteria in their gut. The kind of food you eat encourages different bacterial cultures. The different cultures have major effects on metabolism. So much so, they were successful at switching obese and thin rats simply by extracting their bacterial culures and reinjecting them in the oppositely fit rodents. Low and behold, fat ones thinned the thin ones fattened up.

Halfcan
01-07-2008, 07:37 PM
I need some pie!

DomerNKC
01-07-2008, 07:56 PM
i like being fat, bite me. When i run out of food, ill eat you.

Frazod
01-07-2008, 07:58 PM
i like being fat, bite me. When i run out of food, ill eat you.

LMAO

Get that man another box of twinkies!

BigMeatballDave
01-07-2008, 08:02 PM
Yep, I was too harsh. But it is rare for someone to be fat just due to genetics. Heck in the 50s-60s you hardly ever saw a fat person. I find the evidence overwhelming, due to the growth of fast food chains and quick food in general. Coupled with our increasingly sedentary lifstye as many posters have mentioned, it is what it is.

However, metabolism changes with age. When I joined the Navy, I weighed 143 pounds at over 6 ft. I could pack away two large Pizza Hut Pizzas and a pitcher of beer no problem. Up until my 40s I still weighed 160 lbs. and was regulary consuming probably close to 5500 calories a day. I allowed myself to become obese due to lack of excercise and a shitty diet like a lot of people.In general, people are just too lazy. Everything is a convenience. Its too damn easy for stuff to be brought to you, and done for you. The internet has facilitated this.

Bearcat
01-07-2008, 08:05 PM
i like being fat, bite me. When i run out of food, ill eat you.

Not if Mangino eats you first.

DomerNKC
01-07-2008, 08:08 PM
make that 2 boxes. Bring them to me i don't need to be gettin up or anything. I'm 5'10" and 292lbs big chief dave. Way too lazy with things being brought to me.

Silock
01-07-2008, 08:08 PM
I think it's genetics and naturally heavy people having more kids.

I don't see obesity in other countries.
But there is no obesity in other countries like there is in the USA.


This is just wrong. There are obesity problems in other countries.

http://www.worldpress.org/Africa/1961.cfm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1082739.stm

In developing 3rd world nations, it's becoming a problem. I was listening to a story on NPR the other day about Kenya's obesity problems. As it develops and more people move to the cities, they eat more and more. Fatter people are perceived as being more wealthy and healthier, but they're going overboard. In Singapore, they have mandatory fat camps for obese children in their schools.

Obesity is a world-wide problem and it has very, very little to do with genetics. Our bodies weren't designed for the lifestyle we live now. Our bodies were designed to do physical work, and as we do less and less as a global society, weight is going up. It's not a coincidence.

RibKing67
01-07-2008, 08:19 PM
I think it has everything to do with activity and diet. I used to eat all I could and as long as I had the activity to burn it off I did not gain. When I quit working hard and started working smart I gained almost 100 lbs in 6 yrs. I attribute it to "business lunches" and little to no activity. I quit working out at work and did not replace it at the gym. Now I am paying for it and have changed my diet and am working out 3-4 times a week. It went on slow and is comming off slow. Kinda sucks but all will be good when I get it off.

stevieray
01-07-2008, 08:31 PM
we're mclovin processed death.

MadMax
01-07-2008, 09:34 PM
Carl Peterson.



I freakin knew it, that Mfer was the reason I gained weight!!!!!! :# :banghead: :cuss: He actually is , he made me drink a lot more than I used to. :shake: :p

Iowanian
01-07-2008, 09:42 PM
eating like a fat hog and failure to exercise enough to offset the calorie intake.


If the 500lbers on the Biggest Loser can get down to 160....its not genetic.

irishjayhawk
01-07-2008, 09:45 PM
I think it's genetics and naturally heavy people having more kids.

I don't see obesity in other countries.


Diet.


I just got done reading Eat to Live, which outlines exactly why people are obese.

It's worth a read. Cites probably 300 medical studies.

SBK
01-07-2008, 10:29 PM
Something I've noticed here that others have said they saw in Europe---go to a big city in the US and people are thinner. It's a lifestyle thing, people in Atlanta are thinner than people in Des Moines. A Lot. People in New York make the folks in Atlanta look like cows.

In places where people do a lot more walking they are thinner. I think it has a lot more to do with exercise than with food.

DomerNKC
01-07-2008, 10:29 PM
i am obese just to piss off chiefmanwillgetyou.

Quiet Storm
01-07-2008, 10:30 PM
Bigger portion sizes that us Americans have grown accustomed to.

Bump
01-07-2008, 10:42 PM
I think genetics plays a big role in it. Like for example Native Americans seem to be genetically prone to obesity. I was an exercise science major and most classes explained that to us at some point during the semester....I don't remember the details though. But it seemed to be "known" by most professors that genetics plays a role. Of course, not exercising and eating bad will do it more than anything.

MadMax
01-07-2008, 10:52 PM
i am obese just to piss off chiefmanwillgetyou.


I wanna hang out with you! :) screw these sissies..Plus you live where I spent 27 years of my life.

88TG88
01-07-2008, 10:59 PM
Bacon wrapped hot dogs

Baconeater
01-07-2008, 11:05 PM
Bacon wrapped hot dogs
Dipped in lard.

Quiet Storm
01-07-2008, 11:08 PM
Fried Snickers (Yes....Its true)

Braincase
01-08-2008, 05:31 AM
F*****' Girl Scouts and their f*****' cookies.

a1na2
01-08-2008, 05:48 AM
Movies, TV, Gameboy, Computer games, etc.

I saw a young man go from 130 to 220 in about 1 year's time. When he was younger he was out playing soccer, on his roller blades, and riding his bicycle. For a year solid he played gameboy, computer games, downloaded movies and TV shows. Inactivity keeps you from burning off the calories you pack on.

I've gone from that same starting weight to about the same ending weight but have accumulated the weight over 35 years. More exercisse and less high fat food will probably help me get back down to a weight that I can live with.

BigMeatballDave
01-08-2008, 06:31 AM
If the 500lbers on the Biggest Loser can get down to 160....its not genetic.The genetic aspect I was refering to is that some people can eat all day and not gain weight. The human body is designed to shed fat. Eating right, and execise. Its just difficult for some people to remove themselves from the TV or computer. I am like this. If it weren't for the fact that I work 50+ hours a week, I'd probably be a shut-in.

Radar Chief
01-08-2008, 06:38 AM
High Fructose Corn Syrup + Massive Portions Justifying Price Increases = Fat Nation

Mrs. Radar tells me a time line can be drawn making a correlation from the introduction of HFCS and America’s exploding obesity problem, pardon the pun.

donkhater
01-08-2008, 06:54 AM
I'll buy the genetics argument to a point. Some people do have faster metabolisms than others. But that only is an excuse if you are big-boned or a little chubby.

Morbid obesity is brought on by behavior. I know a lot of overweight people and I certainly don't see them in an active lifestyle or eating steamed rice and vegetables. Mainly, they are couch potatoes and eat a lot of processed foods.

Then their kids become obese and society tells them, "Too bad. You just have bad genes."

I call BS.

Kids see how their parents live and eat and are going to grow up living and eating the same way. People have a choice in what they put in there bodies and in how active they want to be. The genetics argument is a cop out.

BigMeatballDave
01-08-2008, 06:56 AM
I'll buy the genetics argument to a point. Some people do have faster metabolisms than others. But that only is an excuse if you are big-boned or a little chubby.

Morbid obesity is brought on by behavior. I know a lot of overweight people and I certainly don't see them in an active lifestyle or eating steamed rice and vegetables. Mainly, they are couch potatoes and eat a lot of processed foods.

Then their kids become obese and society tells them, "Too bad. You just have bad genes."

I call BS.

Kids see how their parents live and eat and are going to grow up living and eating the same way. People have a choice in what they put in there bodies and in how active they want to be. The genetics argument is a cop out.Agreed.

Cochise
01-08-2008, 07:10 AM
I think genetics plays a big role in it. Like for example Native Americans seem to be genetically prone to obesity. I was an exercise science major and most classes explained that to us at some point during the semester....I don't remember the details though. But it seemed to be "known" by most professors that genetics plays a role. Of course, not exercising and eating bad will do it more than anything.

Well, sure, a Polynesian person is going to have a different body type than someone else does. Everyone starts from a different place, but it's not like you can't control it.

When people blame the problem on genetics though, I think it's usually not genetic, it's due to couch-sitting and sport snacking

Iowanian
01-08-2008, 07:10 AM
The genetic aspect I was refering to is that some people can eat all day and not gain weight. The human body is designed to shed fat. Eating right, and execise. Its just difficult for some people to remove themselves from the TV or computer. I am like this. If it weren't for the fact that I work 50+ hours a week, I'd probably be a shut-in.

I'm sure its correct to suggest there are genetic pre-dispositions to be physically big, to include fat.

I'll also suggest that as you mentioned earlier about metabolism is correctable. while one person may have to walk a little further to burn the same caloric intake of another, its still the option. Metabolism increases if you're building muscle(lifting weights) and exercising regularly.

If you're eating deep fried twinkeys, sitting at a computer with a 2liter of Mt Dew.....if you listen carefully, you can hear the fat growing like a bowl of freshly milked rice crispies.

The best way to improve metabolism that I know of is to exercise and lift weights. While I'm no longer the chizled beast o fmy younger years, I know the answer to get rid of fat I don't want, I'm just too busy or unmotivated to take care of it. maybe its that i'm married and don't have to impress chics anymore.....

I tell my wife I'm not fat, I'm happy.

seclark
01-08-2008, 07:29 AM
i can't afford a car w/air bags, so i have to use mah bellah.
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Iowanian
01-08-2008, 07:35 AM
The Cause of obesity in wives has been alleged to be caused by the Kloster effect.

sedated
01-08-2008, 07:54 AM
Genetics? or Learning Behavior by growing up in a house full of fat-asses? It can be hard to tell the difference sometimes.

HonestChieffan
01-08-2008, 08:01 AM
Most obese folk I see are way too fat. I lay it right there. No need to look any further.

crazycoffey
01-08-2008, 08:13 AM
Wearing clothes while we eat. If we all ate while sitting naked in front of a mirror nobody would be fat.


or hungry, for that matter.....

thehead
01-08-2008, 08:34 AM
It has to be the can't push my fat ass away from the table disease
























j/k

DomerNKC
01-08-2008, 06:49 PM
I'll buy the genetics argument to a point. Some people do have faster metabolisms than others. But that only is an excuse if you are big-boned or a little chubby.

Morbid obesity is brought on by behavior. I know a lot of overweight people and I certainly don't see them in an active lifestyle or eating steamed rice and vegetables. Mainly, they are couch potatoes and eat a lot of processed foods.

Then their kids become obese and society tells them, "Too bad. You just have bad genes."

I call BS.

Kids see how their parents live and eat and are going to grow up living and eating the same way. People have a choice in what they put in there bodies and in how active they want to be. The genetics argument is a cop out.I blame you.

beach tribe
01-08-2008, 06:54 PM
Pork?

DomerNKC
01-08-2008, 06:57 PM
pork who????

beach tribe
01-08-2008, 06:59 PM
Pork ers.

DomerNKC
01-08-2008, 07:02 PM
can you wrap that in bacon???

beach tribe
01-08-2008, 07:03 PM
Gotta dip it in butter first.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-08-2008, 07:04 PM
I am taking a crash course called rehab, on that very subject now. It is diet and excercise, I don't buy the genetics cop out.


Me too. Agreed 100% from first hand experience.

KcMizzou
01-08-2008, 07:05 PM
Short answer... eating/drinking too much while moving too little.

beach tribe
01-08-2008, 07:09 PM
Short answer... eating/drinking too much while moving too little.
Ding Ding Ding.

RJ
01-08-2008, 07:10 PM
Beer.

Frazod
01-08-2008, 07:15 PM
Most obese folk I see are way too fat. I lay it right there. No need to look any further.

DomerNKC
01-08-2008, 07:18 PM
Short answer... eating/drinking too much while moving too little....but i move all day long.

KcMizzou
01-08-2008, 07:24 PM
...but i move all day long.Me too, unfortunately not quite enough to offset the beer and crap that I eat.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-08-2008, 07:41 PM
Most obese folk I see are way too fat. I lay it right there. No need to look any further.


In another rousing rendition of let's state the obvious, the sky is blue.

KChiefs1
01-08-2008, 07:44 PM
this thread is worthless without pictures.

DomerNKC
01-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Mrs. Radar tells me a time line can be drawn making a correlation from the introduction of HFCS and America’s exploding obesity problem, pardon the pun.I think it has a lot to do with the lunch specials at "El Pueblitos"

MadMax
01-08-2008, 10:00 PM
Genetics? or Learning Behavior by growing up in a house full of fat-asses? It can be hard to tell the difference sometimes.

Maybe in yer case ahem second hand "smoke" is a factor? lol j/k

MadMax
01-08-2008, 10:01 PM
this thread is worthless without pictures.


Be carefull what you ask for rofl

Baconeater
01-08-2008, 10:12 PM
this thread is worthless without pictures.
http://hubpages.com/u/45495_f520.jpg

MadMax
01-08-2008, 10:15 PM
http://hubpages.com/u/45495_f520.jpg



GASP!!!! Thats some fine lookin wimmins :rockon: :whackit: :Lin:

jidar
01-08-2008, 10:20 PM
Fat people cause obesity.

RJ
01-08-2008, 10:25 PM
http://hubpages.com/u/45495_f520.jpg




That's just a bad picture. I went to high school with all four of those chicks and they are smoking hot. My brother dated the one on the left, she lives in LA now and is doing some modeling.