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old_geezer
01-07-2008, 07:43 PM
I'm in the market for a good stereo. By good, I mean price range $400-$700. I was considering a Bose system but after reading some reviews I think I could do better for the money. I was looking for something that would not take up a lot of space but put out a killer sound. Thinking of mini-systems but nothing has caught my eye so far. Another important thing - I want connectivity for my I-Pod or at least the ability to connect my I-Pod with a docking station. Any thoughts?

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-07-2008, 07:47 PM
Wipe your ass with the money, that would be better than the Bose.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-07-2008, 07:51 PM
In all honesty I would by this receiver:

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR605S-Channel-Theater-Receiver/dp/B000OBLARM/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1199756854&sr=8-2

That would leave you with 300 for the speakers. I'd buy the speakers modularly.

If you need a HTIB setup, it will change your options (more stuff, less quality).

Try Harmanaudio on ebay. They sell refurbished JBL, HK, and Infinity receivers, speakers, subs, etc.

http://myworld.ebay.com/harmanaudio

old_geezer
01-07-2008, 07:56 PM
Wipe your ass with the money, that would be better than the Bose.


That was helpfull. But seriously, that's the conclusion I've come to also. Being a novice audiophile I'm looking for what systems are best. I'm pretty well lost on the subject. :shrug:

old_geezer
01-07-2008, 07:57 PM
Thanks, that's the type of info I'm looking for.

Baby Lee
01-07-2008, 08:06 PM
What are you looking for? There are a number of unexplored variables.

First off, when you say stereo, do you actually mean 2 channel receiver, or did you actually mean 5.1 or 7.1 surround? Are you talking HTiB, meaning receiver, CD/DVD, and speakers all in one price point, or just the receiver unit.

Do you have speakers already? Other music components? Are you willing to set up main speakers now, and wait on a subwoofer, or do you even need one?

Mainly music, or HT?

Do you need connectivity for TV [and then just basic composite or all the way through HDMI], DVD, tape deck, phono, . . . besides your IPod?

Sound - warm or bright, transparent or ambeint, loud and powerful or mainly background.

old_geezer
01-07-2008, 08:13 PM
What are you looking for? There are a number of unexplored variables.

First off, when you say stereo, do you actually mean 2 channel receiver, or did you actually mean 5.1 or 7.1 surround? Are you talking HTiB, meaning receiver, CD/DVD, and speakers all in one price point, or just the receiver unit.

Do you have speakers already? Other music components? Are you willing to set up main speakers now, and wait on a subwoofer, or do you even need one?

Mainly music, or HT?

Do you need connectivity for TV [and then just basic composite or all the way through HDMI], DVD, tape deck, phono, . . . besides your IPod?

Sound - warm or bright, transparent or ambeint, loud and powerful or mainly background.

My head hurts already. :)
Actually HTiB I believe. Everything in one big bundle ( I know that makes you hi-brows cringe :p ) Mainly music - the only thing I'd be interested in connecting is my i-pod. Crisp, clean sound, esp. the lower range and strong enough to fill my living room if I am feeling rowdy.

Baby Lee
01-07-2008, 08:18 PM
My head hurts already. :)
Actually HTiB I believe. Everything in one big bundle ( I know that makes you hi-brows cringe :p ) Mainly music - the only thing I'd be interested in connecting is my i-pod. Crisp, clean sound, esp. the lower range and strong enough to fill my living room if I am feeling rowdy.
If you say mostly music AND HT[iB], it makes a big difference. Do you want two channels, for stereo music, or five for home theater?
I guess, the easiest way is, are you already getting use out of a HDTV [and possibly] DVD/HDDVD/BluRay?
Because when budgeting stereo, you can get quite a lot for $700, but for HT, with three additional, presumably matched, speakers, and possibly a subwoofer, the quality available at the price point all around goes down.

old_geezer
01-07-2008, 08:23 PM
If you say mostly music AND HT[iB], it makes a big difference. Do you want two channels, for stereo music, or five for home theater?I guess, the easiest way is, are you already getting use out of a HDTV [and possibly] DVD/HDDVD/BluRay?
Because when budgeting stereo, you can get quite a lot for $700, but for HT, with three additional, presumably matched, speakers, and possibly a subwoofer, the quality available at the price point all around goes down.


OK, I'm beginning to get the picture. 2 channels for stereo music is what I desire. I'm not into the home theatre thing.

Baby Lee
01-07-2008, 08:32 PM
OK, I'm beginning to get the picture. 2 channels for stereo music is what I desire. I'm not into the home theatre thing.
I would suggest then putting a lot of attention into your speakers, first off.

A couple of highly regarded candidates, in bookshelf size.

http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=speakers&product=111.1

http://www.athenaspeakers.com/model-AS-B1-2.htm

Now about your receiver, are you saying it needs to have a docking station, or you have a docking station and want to be able to plug it into the receiver? If the latter, what type of connections do you have coming from that station.

If the former, Denon has Ipod interface built in. It's multichannel, but you can just bank that away for the future if you then decide to go HT, and right now just use the main stereo channel power.

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3639.asp

On the HTiB front, I can't really weigh in as I have little exposure. But I'd say, unless you're really into a unified 'look,' you'd get a lot more bang for your buck assembling the components individually, especially since I haven't come across a HTiB [unless possibly something like Bang and Olufson, at a couple grand or more] that has speakers matching even entry level standalone units, certainly not as good as those above.

old_geezer
01-07-2008, 08:45 PM
Now about your receiver, are you saying it needs to have a docking station, or you have a docking station and want to be able to plug it into the receiver? If the latter, what type of connections do you have coming from that station.

If the former, Denon has Ipod interface built in. It's multichannel, but you can just bank that away for the future if you then decide to go HT, and right now just use the main stereo channel power.

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3639.asp



Mainly I just want to be able to plug in and play my i-pod to whatever I buy. I think audio in is all I need. I've got an inexpensive stereo system right now that I simply connect to with one cord from the i-pod to the audio in slot and play my music. That's all I need.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-07-2008, 09:57 PM
Mainly I just want to be able to plug in and play my i-pod to whatever I buy. I think audio in is all I need. I've got an inexpensive stereo system right now that I simply connect to with one cord from the i-pod to the audio in slot and play my music. That's all I need.

Any receiver will work with your Ipod. You sound like you just want something conventional. Don't worry about Denon's or Onkyo's with optional docks.

Buy an 1/8" to stereo RCA adapter.

Get these speakers:

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/reviews/540329692

Get this receiver or a similar item (HK/JBL refurb units are indistinguishable from new and have a full factory warranty)

You'll also notice that the W/Channel rating is much higher than on other HK receivers, because it only has to focus on two channels.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Harman-Kardon-3485-Stereo-Receiver-w-120W-per-channel_W0QQitemZ150202541288QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3279QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem