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Dr.Fine
01-07-2008, 09:14 PM
thoughts?

Sully
01-07-2008, 09:15 PM
I'm in.

dirk digler
01-07-2008, 09:19 PM
Is their cabinet position for Intern training?

Dr.Fine
01-07-2008, 09:21 PM
Is their cabinet position for Intern training?

doggie style

jAZ
01-07-2008, 09:23 PM
Head of the UN.

Dr.Fine
01-07-2008, 09:28 PM
Head of the UN.


excellent-but I feel the short-term needs internally might trump the longer term benefits.

jAZ
01-07-2008, 09:35 PM
Clinton wouldn't take a cabinet position.

And ultimately I think he can't take one of the positions in the line of succession to the President for the same reason he can't run as VP.

He can't hold a 3rd term and in taking a position, were the right conditions to arise, he'd suddenly become President.

Dr.Fine
01-07-2008, 10:16 PM
The other scheme is to insert a two-termer into the Line of Succession somewhere. This is a possibility - a two-termer can be elected to the House and become Speaker, or be elected to the Senate and become President Pro Tem. Both of these positions are in the Line. A two-termer can also be named to a Cabinet position, and all cabinet secretaries are in the Line. However, there is one main sticking point in this scheme - the law prohibits anyone constitutionally ineligible from assuming the Presidency. In other words, if a two-termer was Speaker of the House, the presidency would skip over that person and fall to the President Pro Tem. Since this is just a law, and can be repealed, there is a fall-back: the 22nd Amendment. Though it specifies that no one can be elected more than twice, and this would be an assumption and not an election, it could be argued that the 22nd would not apply. I think this is too strict a reading of the amendment, and if challenged, the Supreme Court would interpret "elected" to mean any means of assuming the presidency.

pretty convoluted, but you are correct..and probably on the assumption he wouldn't anyway-besides, the more likely reason would be that Hillary might have him waxed ala Vince Foster.

patteeu
01-07-2008, 10:16 PM
Clinton wouldn't take a cabinet position.

And ultimately I think he can't take one of the positions in the line of succession to the President for the same reason he can't run as VP.

He can't hold a 3rd term and in taking a position, were the right conditions to arise, he'd suddenly become President.

I'm confident he could take a position in the line of succession. He just would be skipped over if it came to that. Afterall, Henry Kissinger was ineligible for the Presidency (foreign born) but he served as SecState.

As for Clinton, I'd support Mitt Romney if he wanted to offer him a job cleaning up after the Presidential dog.

WoodDraw
01-07-2008, 11:43 PM
What position and why? I like former Presidents playing a role if they still want to, but their role tends to be in the elder statesmen area.

Ugly Duck
01-07-2008, 11:55 PM
Oh hell yes.... we desperately need some brains back in the admin to straighten out this Republican mess. Bill Clinton would be invaluable in beginning to restore our country's reputation.

StcChief
01-08-2008, 08:10 AM
Head of the UN.I'd be for it the rest of the world not so much, after all he is an American. :rolleyes:

Mr. Kotter
01-08-2008, 08:11 AM
I doubt Fred Thompson will select him.


;)

bkkcoh
01-08-2008, 08:15 AM
good god, i hope not......

StcChief
01-08-2008, 08:16 AM
I doubt Fred Thompson will select him.


;)or McCain, but Obama might as a "throw Hillary a bone" jesture

Mr. Kotter
01-08-2008, 08:19 AM
or McCain, but Obama might as a "throw Hillary a bone" jesture

If Obama selects Bill for anything, I'd bet it will be the S.C. :shake:

Dr.Fine
01-08-2008, 08:20 AM
What position and why? I like former Presidents playing a role if they still want to, but their role tends to be in the elder statesmen area.

hmm-not sure-something in the Commerce arena, relating to and incorporating the problems of Immigration, job migration and developing markets. create a new post? also, screw tradition--unique problems need unique people.

btw-like the av--do you coach?

banyon
01-08-2008, 09:37 AM
Clinton wouldn't take a cabinet position.

And ultimately I think he can't take one of the positions in the line of succession to the President for the same reason he can't run as VP.

He can't hold a 3rd term and in taking a position, were the right conditions to arise, he'd suddenly become President.

i agree with patteeu, but i think even the question of whether he can serve as VP is unresolved Constitutionally.

Cochise
01-08-2008, 09:41 AM
Secretary of Cigar Concealment

bkkcoh
01-08-2008, 10:04 AM
Clinton wouldn't take a cabinet position.

And ultimately I think he can't take one of the positions in the line of succession to the President for the same reason he can't run as VP.

He can't hold a 3rd term and in taking a position, were the right conditions to arise, he'd suddenly become President.


He can't hold or be elected to a 3rd term. I thought the constitution only prohibits a president from being elecgted a 3rd time.

StcChief
01-08-2008, 11:15 AM
Secretary of Cigar Concealment

Danger ... Bad image returning of fat Intern (what was her name again)

Laz
01-08-2008, 11:16 AM
Head of the UN.
yep

Laz
01-08-2008, 11:17 AM
I thought the constitution only prohibits a president from being elecgted a 3rd time.

me too

RJ
01-08-2008, 12:57 PM
Clinton wouldn't take a cabinet position.

And ultimately I think he can't take one of the positions in the line of succession to the President for the same reason he can't run as VP.

He can't hold a 3rd term and in taking a position, were the right conditions to arise, he'd suddenly become President.





http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=32331




There has also been some heated discussion on a possible loophole in
the 22nd amendment that might allow Bill Clinton to serve beyond his
prescribed constitutional limit. There is nothing in the language of
the 22nd Amendment that precludes a former president from becoming
vice-president. So, for example, Al Gore or Hilary Clinton could run
for president in 2004 and name Bill Clinton as their vice-president.
Upon the death, incapacity, impeachment, or resignation of the
president, Bill Clinton could then assume the office.
There is a statement in the 12th Amendment which appears to cover this
loophole, however: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the
office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the
United States."
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am12

In an article title "Why the Constitution Permits a Clinton-Gore
ticket," Michael C. Dorf, vice dean and professor of law at Columbia
University, says that the 12th Amendment would allow Clinton to become
Vice-President, however. "The 12th Amendment would allow a Clinton
vice-presidency. Its language only bars from the vice-presidency those
persons who are "ineligible to the office" of President. Clinton is
not ineligible to the office of president, however. He is only
disqualified (by the 22nd Amendment) from being elected to that
office."
http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/08/columns/fl.dorf.goreclinton.08.01/

For an article which disagrees with the above interpretation of the
12th Amendment see "Can a two-term president be vice-president?" by
James R. Whitson:
http://www.presidentelect.org/art_preztoveep.html