01/08/08 - Tracking the NH Results

[Ultra Peanut]

OBAMA TAKES DIXVILLE NOTCH!!!

Obama 7
Edwards 2
Richardson 1

[Ultra Peanut]

We're gonna need a bigger box (of ballots)!

EPIC TURNOUT FOR DEMS -- We Are Out of Ballots!

Secretary of State is making runs to Seacoast – Hampton, Portsmouth – and Southern Hillsborough – Pelham, Nashua – to bring extra democratic ballots. Many towns are reporting shortages... Developing...

[patteeu]

Hillary stole the ballots. They'll either show up by the end of the day in a stuffed ballot box or they'll be found down the road sometime in her residence by a cleaning lady.

[Cochise]

I was thinking that there's probably a fury going on over at dailypaul that this will cost them the 80% victory he surely would have achieved otherwise

[Ultra Peanut]

I was thinking that there's probably a fury going on over at dailypaul that this will cost them the 80% victory he surely would have achieved otherwiseNo, everything will be fine. They'll send the blimp up to scout for more ballots.

[dirk digler]

I was thinking that there's probably a fury going on over at dailypaul that this will cost them the 80% victory he surely would have achieved otherwise

LMAO

TJ will be along any moment to claim a conspiracy to deny RP the winner

[Cochise]

No, everything will be fine. They'll send the blimp up to scout for more ballots.

Maybe their people already voted... guess it depends on what time Star Trek Voyager airs today on Spike

[Hydrae]

I was thinking that there's probably a fury going on over at dailypaul that this will cost them the 80% victory he surely would have achieved otherwise


Since the ballots that are short are for the Dem side of things, I don't think this will have any affect on Paul or any of the other Reps. :rolleyes:

[Cochise]

Since the ballots that are short are for the Dem side of things, I don't think this will have any affect on Paul or any of the other Reps. :rolleyes:

So the neocons would have you believe!

[Forward Dante]

OBAMA TAKES DIXVILLE NOTCH!!!

Obama 7
Edwards 2
Richardson 1

I'm kind of hoping the rest of the state follows Dixville Notch's lead and Hillary doesn't get a single vote.

[FAX]

Does anyone else think that the fact NH has run out of democratic ballots is suspicious? I mean, my God!! This has the potential to become a complete monkey f*ck!!!

On the other hand, the news broadcasts could probably use another one of those.

FAX

[KILLER_CLOWN]

"It's not who votes that counts. It's who counts the votes." Joseph Stalin.

[banyon]

Hillary stole the ballots. They'll either show up by the end of the day in a stuffed ballot box or they'll be found down the road sometime in her residence by a cleaning lady.
Obama and Paul poll workers kicked out of some precincts

http://www.boston.com/news/local/politics/primarysource/

Link Posted by James Pindell January 8, 2008 03:23 PM
Campaign volunteers for the Barack Obama and Ron Paul have been kicked out of precincts from Concord to Swanzey for not having the proper credentials, several unrelated sources have witnessed.

In general elections it is standard practice to have poll workers sitting behind the registration table and scratching off names as people sign in. Periodically they take those lists and the campaign gets in contact with those who have voted yet.

But, that is for general elections and everyone who does this a) has to live reasonably nearby (read: state residents) and b.) have letters from the state party to be an "observer".

Apparently many of these Obama and Paul observers did not have this letter. These same sources say that it is the Clinton campaign that has called foul

New Hampshire Senate President Sylvia Larsen, a Concord Democrat who supports Hillary Clinton, said she saw the Obama observers.

"I knew who they were and what they were doing," Larsen said.

Neither the Clinton nor Obama campaigns would comment.

[banyon]

Per Lou Dobbs:

8% reporting

Dems:

Clinton 38%
Obama 36%
Edwards 17%


Reps:

McCain 37%
Romney 28%
Huckabee 12%

JesusPaul 8%

[banyon]

Per the WMUR-TV (Manchester) (On C-SPAN NOW)

11% reporting

Dems:

Clinton 40%
Obama 37%
Edwards 17%
Richardson 4%
Kucinich 2%
Gravel 0%


Reps:

McCain 38%
Romney 29%
Huckabee 13%
Giuliani 9%
Paul 9%
Thompson 1%
Hunter 1%

[recxjake]

McCain declared winner in NH

[Jenson71]

I know it's early, but we need to get Ultra Peanut on Su. watch

[Adam]

Fred Thompson is neck-and-neck with Duncan Hunter.

[Cochise]

Per Lou Dobbs:

8% reporting

Dems:

Clinton 38%
Obama 36%
Edwards 17%


Reps:

McCain 37%
Romney 28%
Huckabee 12%

JesusPaul 8%

Holy crap. How can Clinton be doing so well? What the fudge?

Just when you think you know this race...

[banyon]

Holy crap. How can Clinton be doing so well? What the fudge?

The analysts on CSPAN said the early returns are normally from Manchester, which is supposedly a Clinton stronghold (which kind of makes sense).

[chiefforlife]

Holy crap. How can Clinton be doing so well? What the fudge?


Looks like NH fell for the teary eyed trick.

[Cochise]

The analysts on CSPAN said the early returns are normally from Manchester, which is supposedly a Clinton stronghold (which kind of makes sense).

Oh, I didn't see the 8% part. Guess I'll wait until 10 or so before I decide New Hampshire is hilarious.

[Cochise]

Now 14% reporting, it's Clinton 40/Obama 35/Edwards 17

[Adam]

When I saw on Drudge today that a bunch of places had run out of Democrat ballots, I had to wonder how many "Obama" Independents just said, "screw it, give me a Republican ballot" and voted for McCain.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

WTF :spock:

[Jenson71]

Hillary now a 2000+ vote lead.

[NewPhin]

Damn you New Hampshire! :cuss: :banghead:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Damn you New Hampshire! :cuss: :banghead:

F*cking cocksuckers have blood on their hands from Bush in 2000, now they pull this shit.

[Adam]

F*cking cocksuckers have blood on their hands from Bush in 2000, now they pull this shit.

What do you mean? McCain won New Hampshire in 2000, not Bush.

[banyon]

http://static.mmoabc.com/my/M/i/c/hael/2008/1/1//1199236551524.jpg

[irishjayhawk]

Ahhhhh if Clinton holds.

[jAZ]

MSNBC was saying that Obama's campaign expected that younger voters would show up toward the end of the day. Which means a late... ahem... "surge".

Somehow I'm not feeling that's not gonna happen.

[BCD]

McCain declared winner in NHNeed a tissue?

[dirk digler]

Man this is alot closer than I thought. If Clinton wins it maybe over for Obama

[banyon]

Man this is alot closer than I thought. If Clinton wins it maybe over for Obama

no way, he'd be 1-1 with a narrow loss in NH to Hillary's wider loss in IA. He's also up 13 points in the SC Polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_primary-234.html).

[Adam]

MSNBC was saying that Obama's campaign expected that younger voters would show up toward the end of the day. Which means a late... ahem... "surge".

Somehow I'm not feeling that's not gonna happen.

How is it relevant what time of day somebody voted? I assumed they count them all after the polls close. It would make sense that larger precincts would take more time to count the votes, though. And those might tend to be more urban and have more young people.

[dirk digler]

no way, he'd be 1-1 with a narrow loss in NH to Hillary's wider loss in IA. He's also up 13 points in the SC Polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/sc/south_carolina_democratic_primary-234.html).

The problem I see it is that people will now say the win in Iowa was a blip on the radar and they will say he can't beat her in a primary where Independents can vote.

[banyon]

The problem I see it is that people will now say the win in Iowa was a blip on the radar and they will say he can't beat her in a primary where Independents can vote.


Is that an argument the Clintonistas can make? Sure.

Is it a reason to drop out? No way in hell.

[alnorth]

No matter what happens, there is one thing you really have to respect about McCain. He is not afraid to stand up for something he believes in thats horribly unpopular even if it means possibly losing an election.

He basically stood alone defending Bush's troop surge strategy when no one in either party wanted anything to do with it, the GOP was screaming at Bush to withdraw before the next election, and McCain stands firm. Then you throw in his stance on immigration, very unpopular, I thought he committed political suicide and was finished a while ago. He just wont move from his beliefs to win an election, and now that Iraq is beginning to quiet down and a shakey sort of relative peace is coming about, McCain is getting the benefit for being for it all along.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

What do you mean? McCain won New Hampshire in 2000, not Bush.

The general, dude.

that was the state where Nader's votes most directly cost Gore outside of Fla. and their 4 EV's would have given Gore 271.

[banyon]

Now 14% reporting, it's Clinton 40/Obama 35/Edwards 17


Back to 39 Clinton/ 37 Obama 42% reporting

[dirk digler]

Is that an argument the Clintonistas can make? Sure.

Is it a reason to drop out? No way in hell.

He won't drop out but all the momentum will swing back to Hillary if she wins.

This is potentially devastating because he was supposed to win by double digits and if he loses well I just don't think he can recover from this.

[Adam]

The general, dude.

that was the state where Nader's votes most directly cost Gore outside of Fla. and their 4 EV's would have given Gore 271.

Ah, got it.

[banyon]

He won't drop out but all the momentum will swing back to Hillary if she wins.

This is potentially devastating because he was supposed to win by double digits and if he loses well I just don't think he can recover from this.

Clinton (the dude) didn't win either. I guess I think you are overreacting, but there seems to be a lot of that going around, even with professional political pundits and pollsters. I think the excitement and anticipation about getting something new after 8 years of garbage has everyone all keyed up.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

He won't drop out but all the momentum will swing back to Hillary if she wins.

This is potentially devastating because he was supposed to win by double digits and if he loses well I just don't think he can recover from this.

I honestly don't see that. I don't know, maybe I just *don't* want to see that.

I would imagine that she'll get slaughtered in the Midwest.

[BucEyedPea]

Man this is alot closer than I thought. If Clinton wins it maybe over for Obama
I don't think so. There's 48 more states.

[dirk digler]

Clinton (the dude) didn't win either. I guess I think you are overreacting, but there seems to be a lot of that going around, even with professional political pundits and pollsters. I think the excitement and anticipation about getting something new after 8 years of garbage has everyone all keyed up.

Right now if you look at the numbers she won the Dem vote by 10% and if it wasn't for the Independents and the young vote this wouldn't even by close.

Now all of those african-americans in SC will now switch back to Clinton because they will think he can't win and it will be all over.

**** I swear if she wins the nomination I will vote Republican

[BucEyedPea]

Damn you New Hampshire! :cuss: :banghead:
A lot more older folks in NH except for the college towns.
But NH is a big retirement state now too.

[dirk digler]

A lot more older folks in NH except for the college towns.
But NH is a big retirement state now too.

**** WOMEN WHO ALLOWED THEM TO VOTE!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

:p :)

[Dr.Fine]

Right now if you look at the numbers she won the Dem vote by 10% and if it wasn't for the Independents and the young vote this wouldn't even by close.

Now all of those african-americans in SC will now switch back to Clinton because they will think he can't win and it will be all over.

**** I swear if she wins the nomination I will vote Republican


I'm afraid I might too--BC on the stump in SC would be a slam-dunk.

[Adam]

Didn't Biden and Dodd drop out?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Didn't Biden and Dodd drop out?

Last Tuesday. I figured about 80% of their votes would go to Obama.

[Dr.Fine]

Didn't Biden and Dodd drop out?

yes

[kstater]

I don't think so. There's 48 more states.

According to Rex, if you win Florida, it's over. Maybe all the candidates should spend more time there.

[banyon]

Last Tuesday. I figured about 80% of their votes would go to Obama.

Actually, those guys are both very establishment.

I mean, what kind of person gets excited about Dodd as a candidate? It's like the Simpsons where they get excited about nominating the water cooler. I would think his support went to the next most bland candidate, Hillary.

Biden's not a shell, but his policies were mosre closely aligned with HRC's also I think.

[Dr.Fine]

if NH swings the nom for Hillary, should there be a "Frankenstein-like" burn-down of the State?

[banyon]

39-36% for HRC 61 % reporting.

[patteeu]

**** I swear if she wins the nomination I will vote Republican

Now you're talking. LOL

[recxjake]

According to Rex, if you win Florida, it's over. Maybe all the candidates should spend more time there.

For Rudy yes... not so much for everyone else...

If Rudy can go 0-6 and still win Florida that shows something. Rudy's best states are Feb 5... he just has to get there.

[cdcox]

Chris Matthews is hinting (speculating) that Obama will take a late victory.

[dirk digler]

Now you're talking. LOL

**** me I would vote for Dick Cheney

[Dr.Fine]

Actually, those guys are both very establishment.

I mean, what kind of person gets excited about Dodd as a candidate? It's like the Simpsons where they get excited about nominating the water cooler. I would think his support went to the next most bland candidate, Hillary.

Biden's not a shell, but his policies were mosre closely aligned with HRC's also I think.

good points but you're not factoring in electability and flexibility.

[banyon]

good points but you're not factoring in electability and flexibility.

I don't see the relevance of those qualities if you are trying to determine where supporters for those candidates would've fled to. Perhaps you could clarify.

[irishjayhawk]

39-36% for HRC 61 % reporting.


I saw that too and then MyFoxKC has a 36-36 tie. Weird.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Chris Matthews is hinting (speculating) that Obama will take a late victory.

All the gap has done the last two hours is grow. I don't know if his support in the college towns will be enough to overcome the population centers and the pantsuited women who flocked out to vote for Hillary's boring ass.

[banyon]

OH MY GOD. They're introducing Edwards with that sh***y Mellencamp "This is our Country" song.


I'm seriously tempted to switch allegiances based solely on that.

[irishjayhawk]

All the gap has done the last two hours is grow. I don't know if his support in the college towns will be enough to overcome the population centers and the pantsuited women who flocked out to vote for Hillary's boring ass.


REally? I thought it was shrinking.

[dirk digler]

All the gap has done the last two hours is grow. I don't know if his support in the college towns will be enough to overcome the population centers and the pantsuited women who flocked out to vote for Hillary's boring ass.

Yep I think she is going to win

****KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!! :cuss: :cuss: :mad: :mad: :banghead:

[Adam]

I can't believe Edwards let that poor little girl die. He could have easily paid for her liver transplant with the change in his pocket.

[patteeu]

OH MY GOD. They're introducing Edwards with that sh***y Mellencamp "This is our Country" song.


I'm seriously tempted to switch allegiances based solely on that.

You're welcome over here on the Romney bandwagon. It's kind of lonely right now, but he's got the Donnie & Marie cranked up and we're all a little bit country and a little bit rock and roll right now!

[banyon]

The gap has gone back and forth between 4-2%.

currently:

63 % reporting

HRC 39%
Obama 36%

[Dr.Fine]

I don't see the relevance of those qualities if you are trying to determine where supporters for those candidates would've fled to. Perhaps you could clarify.

policy parallels aside, that support would (IMO) be more likely to got to Obama because of the electability factor in the Gen Election...but that's just my take--they probably stayed home.

[dirk digler]

**** MSNBC Just called Hillary the winner

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The gap has gone back and forth between 4-2%.

currently:

63 % reporting

HRC 39%
Obama 36%

But the raw vote disparity has done nothing but grow. He's now 5K plus behind. He's running out of votes to pick up.

[cdcox]

MSNBC projects Hillary.

[banyon]

MSNBC just called it for Hillary! :mad:

[Adam]

**** MSNBC Just called Hillary the winner

:rockon:

[Silock]

You're welcome over here on the Romney bandwagon. It's kind of lonely right now, but he's got the Donnie & Marie cranked up and we're all a little bit country and a little bit rock and roll right now!

I wouldn't worry. In a couple of minutes, they'll probably change to death metal and deny that they ever played Donnie and Marie in the first place.

[dirk digler]

LMAO

Fox is stilling holding out from calling Clinton

[Adam]

LMAO

Fox is stilling holding out from calling Clinton

So is CNN.

[Ultra Peanut]

**** you, New Hampshire.

[BucEyedPea]

But the raw vote disparity has done nothing but grow. He's now 5K plus behind. He's running out of votes to pick up.
Not enough votes in the college towns...small numbers or so I hear.

[Dr.Fine]

Sean Hannity just stained his pants.

[HolmeZz]

God I f*cking hate New Hampshire.

[dirk digler]

Women, Democrats and NH are stupid :D

[BucEyedPea]

**** you, New Hampshire.
Well, we actually agree. Live free or die died tonight when the NH 98% men or so it appeared at McCain's post primary speech. It looked like a fraternity in there...as well as a Paul rally. Anyhow, they chose the mad bomber who wants to occupy Iraq for the next hundred years. :banghead:

[BucEyedPea]

Heh! I've got tons of family in NH...Nashua, Manchester, Salem, Bedford and Tilden...and they're mostly Democrats. I'm fairly certain they liked Clinton because of Bill Clinton's reign mostly. They don't examine that closely. Plus, they're not for a black prez much.

[banyon]

God I f*cking hate New Hampshire.


You're right next door, right? Why don't you go over there and just start whooping everyone's a** you see? :)

[BucEyedPea]

Women, Democrats and NH are stupid :D
Awe! Don't be a misogynist now too. It doesn't become you. :p

[Adam]

CNN calling it for Clinton finally.

[SportsRacer]

I don't see how you can call this race before the college town numbers come in.

[Adam]

I don't see how you can call this race before the college town numbers come in.

The college towns aren't big enough to make up a lead this big.

[SportsRacer]

Plus, they're not for a black prez much.

:spock:

[SportsRacer]

The college towns aren't big enough to make up a lead this big.

They might not make it up on their own but they certainly might close the gap.

[dirk digler]

Obama on now. I am depressed. How the **** can reasonable people vote for such a depressing partisan POS like Hillary Clinton?

[Ultra Peanut]

Obama on now. I am depressed. How the **** can reasonable people vote for such a depressing partisan POS like Hillary Clinton?But she almost cried! She's so human!

AAAAAAAAAAGJJJJJJJJDSFHDSFDSHFHJKD:FP&*Y#UR$E#(*J*@)#HR

[HolmeZz]

Obama on now. I am depressed. How the **** can reasonable people vote for such a depressing partisan POS like Hillary Clinton?

New Hampshire is all old people. It's why I was surprised about the poll numbers coming out the last few days. The whole state is pretty much contrarian. They're rarely relevant, so when they get a chance like this to make a splash, they'll take the opportunity.

[Cochise]

Once again, Chiefsplanet proves not to be a good representation of the electorate...

Sean Hannity just stained his pants.

Why? As a conservative, I love this. Obama is the better candidate in the general. I would love for them to run Hillary out there. Republican voters will be on her like a Siberian tiger at the San Fransisco zoo

[dirk digler]

But she almost cried! She's so human!

AAAAAAAAAAGJJJJJJJJDSFHDSFDSHFHJKD:FP&*Y#UR$E#(*J*@)#HR

She is a ****ing drone

God people are stupid no wonder nothing gets done in Washington because people support career politicians who do nothing

[Cochise]

But she almost cried! She's so human!

AAAAAAAAAAGJJJJJJJJDSFHDSFDSHFHJKD:FP&*Y#UR$E#(*J*@)#HR

YOU SEE!

SHE'S NOT A MACHINE!

SHE'S A MAN!!!!

http://nicholson.tv/images/carl.jpg

[Adam]

Why? As a conservative, I love this. Obama is the better candidate in the general. I would love for them to run Hillary out there. Republican voters will be on her like a Siberian tiger at the San Fransisco zoo

Agreed. Not to mention, if we're gonna lose, I'd rather lose to the least liberal of the two. That's Hillary, no contest.

[dirk digler]

New Hampshire is all old people. It's why I was surprised about the poll numbers coming out the last few days. The whole state is pretty much contrarian. They're rarely relevant, so when they get a chance like this to make a splash, they'll take the opportunity.

Then why were the poll numbers so off?

[Ultra Peanut]

Holy shit, that was an awesome speech.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

New Hampshire is all old people. It's why I was surprised about the poll numbers coming out the last few days. The whole state is pretty much contrarian. They're rarely relevant, so when they get a chance like this to make a splash, they'll take the opportunity.


Where's the logic behind that? We'll vote for someone just because they are different and people don't expect us to? WTF, then? Why not vote for Gravel?

[Dr.Fine]

Once again, Chiefsplanet proves not to be a good representation of the electorate...



Why? As a conservative, I love this. Obama is the better candidate in the general. I would love for them to run Hillary out there. Republican voters will be on her like a Siberian tiger at the San Fransisco zoo

sorry--came/came in his pants! he'd be struggling for material tomorrow if Obama had won...now he can go on vacation for a week and take his choice of tapes from the last 3 years.

[Cochise]

Agreed. Not to mention, if we're gonna lose, I'd rather lose to the least liberal of the two. That's Hillary, no contest.

Yeah... I guess I'd rather have Hillary. But it's a poison pill either way, Hillary is less liberal, but more corrupt. I don't really know which is worse.

[dirk digler]

Hopefully they get it wrong this time

Only twice since New Hampshire voters have chosen a presidential nominee have they failed to pick a winner. The first time was in 1992, when Democrats chose former U.S. Sen. Paul Tsongas, D-Mass., over Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton. Just eight years later, state Republicans chose U.S. Sen. John McCain over President George W. Bush.

[BucEyedPea]

Sounds like NH is slipping...unless they got it right with McCain.

[Cochise]

Holy shit, that was an awesome speech.

Did that work for you?

I was watching it, and I know I'm not the target but I thought it was kind of boring.

[Ultra Peanut]

Agreed. Not to mention, if we're gonna lose, I'd rather lose to the least liberal of the two. That's Hillary, no contest.The difference is that Hillary will continue to conglomerate the power of the executive branch and bask in the newfound secrecy that's been instilled by the Bush administration, while Obama will at least allow his opposition a chance to see what the hell he's doing.

[dirk digler]

Clinton on now

I think I will go puke now

[Cochise]

Ahhh gawd Hillary is on, I hope I don't pop a hamstring running to the remote control.... MUTTTTEEEEEE!!!!!!!

[HolmeZz]

Why? As a conservative, I love this. Obama is the better candidate in the general. I would love for them to run Hillary out there. Republican voters will be on her like a Siberian tiger at the San Fransisco zoo

She'll get absolutely slaughtered and Democrats will be wondering what the hell happened again.

I guess Hillary was right about Obama giving people false hope. This is pretty depressing.

[HolmeZz]

Did that work for you?

I was watching it, and I know I'm not the target but I thought it was kind of boring.

It was a fine speech, you could just tell Barack seemed a little deflated.

[dirk digler]

Did that work for you?

I was watching it, and I know I'm not the target but I thought it was kind of boring.

I don't get how candidates can come and give a great speech after losing I know I couldn't do it.

I would cussing and throwing a fit.

Anyway it was boring but I am depressed so nothing is going to excite me

[Adam]

OMG, WTF is she wearing, a couch?

[chiefforlife]

The difference is that Hillary will continue to conglomerate the power of the executive branch and bask in the newfound secrecy that's been instilled by the Bush administration, while Obama will at least allow his opposition a chance to see what the hell he's doing.

Couldnt have said it better.

[BucEyedPea]

:spock:
I'm just talkin' about how some of them feel about that. They don't feel a black can win. And some just don't like them. They have people like that even in liberal Mass. Usually blue collar Dem types which some of my family is part of I hate to admit. Not my immediate family, my extended family.

[HolmeZz]

I f*cking hate this bitch so much.

[Cochise]

She'll get absolutely slaughtered and Democrats will be wondering what the hell happened again.

I guess Hillary was right about Obama giving people false hope. This is pretty depressing.

Man, you have to wonder what will become of the Democratic party if that happened... They can't get a win from Gore even after a popular Clinton leaves office... the Rep congress bungles for 6 years, gets knocked out, and the Dem congress does worse. They fail to defeat a weak incumbent president by nominating a douchebag. Could they possibly repeat history yet again?

[HolmeZz]

For the life of me I don't understand how anyone could get excited about Hillary Clinton. It's like getting excited about the clap.

[dirk digler]

The crowd is almost entirely women

Are women this freaking stupid?

[BucEyedPea]

New Hampshire is all old people.
It is NOT "all" old people.

[Ultra Peanut]

I f*cking hate this bitch so much.Yes.

And Bill, too.

[Cochise]

OMG, WTF is she wearing, a couch?

It tested really high with angry white women aged 25-39

[Ultra Peanut]

It tested really high with angry white women aged 25-39I think you mean aged 55-200.

[dirk digler]

Now we are going to get the softer Hillary from now on.

What a load of shit

[Cochise]

She's even intolerable with the sound muted. And one of the things I hate most about her is that she's such a horrible speaker.

[HolmeZz]

It is NOT "all" old people.

You've got a ton of older women making up the Democratic party. It's like the perfect combination of out-of-the-loop voters.

[dirk digler]

**** OFF BITCH!!

[Cochise]

I think you mean aged 55-200.

Dick Morris said on the radio that she did really well with single women, I don't know if that means widows or just single women of all ages.

[BucEyedPea]

You've got a ton of older women making up the Democratic party. It's like the perfect combination of out-of-the-loop voters.

That's not the same as saying it's "all" old people.

[dirk digler]

You can do yourself whore

[Dr.Fine]

Man, you have to wonder what will become of the Democratic party if that happened... They can't get a win from Gore even after a popular Clinton leaves office... the Rep congress bungles for 6 years, gets knocked out, and the Dem congress does worse. They fail to defeat a weak incumbent president by nominating a douchebag. Could they possibly repeat history yet again?

if ever there were an opportunity for a split, that would certainly fit the bill.

[Adam]

This is amazing to watch. She's so incredibly lame and boring, yet she might beat Obama. Conservatives are lucky to have her.

[dirk digler]

Dick Morris said on the radio that she did really well with single women, I don't know if that means widows or just single women of all ages.

single women = stupid

[chiefforlife]

I truly feel the only way the Dems lose this race is if Hillary gets the Nomination.

[Ultra Peanut]

Now we are going to get the softer Hillary from now on.

What a load of shitBut can she really cry before every primary?

[BucEyedPea]

Dick Morris said on the radio that she did really well with single women, I don't know if that means widows or just single women of all ages.
I really never understood the attraction to Hillary by women. I know no woman that likes her and I know soccer moms and professional woman as well as women who are both. I just don't get it. :hmmm:

It's gotta be woman from NOW which is mainly gay and lesbian. Concerned Women for America has more members than now and I'm sure they don't like Hillary.

[HolmeZz]

That's not the same as saying it's "all" old people.

If you had to characterize the state, that's exactly how you'd characterize it.

It's a shitty little state.

[dirk digler]

I really never understood the attraction to Hillary by women. I know no woman that likes her and I know soccer moms and professional woman as well as women who are both. I just don't get it. :hmmm:

I think it is the lesbian crowd :D

[Mr. Kotter]

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:hmmm:

[Dr.Fine]

I think it is the lesbian crowd :D

Ralph Reed said the Teachers Union

[BucEyedPea]

If you had to characterize the state, that's exactly how you'd characterize it.

It's a shitty little state.
Have you ever been there?

[HolmeZz]

Every single person at this Clinton rally needs to get rounded up and shot.

[HolmeZz]

Have you ever been there?

Yes.

[dirk digler]

Ralph Reed said the Teachers Union

same thing

[BucEyedPea]

I think it is the lesbian crowd :D
After I typed that I thought about how it slipped out that I used the word "attraction" and thought this. I think you may be right. They're attracted to a butch...and have a strap-on for her...or two. :p

[WilliamTheIrish]

Why is it that when a candidate wins they focus completely on the negative?

I listened to John Edwards do it. Of course, he didn't win.

Now Sen Clinton.

Sen. Clinton has just referenced as bad, predatory student lenders, oil companies, insurance companies, drug companies. The lack of a middle class, the uninsured, that the gov't will no longer be "just for the few" and instead will be for one and all.

Strange.

[Mr. Kotter]

Ralph Reed said the Teachers Union

FWIW, to male educators, it's called the NFWHEA.... :hmmm:

[BucEyedPea]

Yes.
For how long?

I know you're from Connecticut...which I think is shittier. No offense.

[dirk digler]

After I typed that I thought about how it slipped out that I used the word "attraction" and thought this. I think you may be right. They're attracted to a butch...and have a strap-on for her...or two. :p

You're probably right look into her crowd there is alot of butch women in there

[Cochise]

Why is it that when a candidate wins they focus completely on the negative?

...Sen. Clinton has just referenced as bad, predatory student lenders, oil companies, insurance companies, drug companies. The lack of a middle class, the uninsured, that the gov't will no longer be "just for the few" and instead will be for one and all.


Well, that's what they do... convince you that someone has victimized you, and if you elect them then they're going to help you stick it to them. They'll tax them like crazy, not that you'll see any of the money, and then you will have that 'got even' feeling.

[dirk digler]

FWIW, to male educators, it's called the NFWHEA.... :hmmm:

Damn you teachers. Quit voting for that skank. If she wins I am blaming you :)

[HolmeZz]

For how long?

Cumulatively, probably 2 weeks.

I know you're from Connecticut...which I think is shittier. No offense.

Connecticut is shitty, which makes me an expert when it comes to shitty states.

[BucEyedPea]

Cumulatively, probably 2 weeks.



Connecticut is shitty, which makes me an expert when it comes to shitty states.
How did you become a Chiefs fan, instead of a Patriots or Giant's fan?
You must'nt be a Yankee native.

Oh and 2 weeks is just vacationing.

[dirk digler]

If voters changed their vote because of that fake crying BS they need their voting rights taken away

[Mr. Kotter]

Damn you teachers. Quit voting for that skank. If she wins I am blaming you :)

Would you care to know what the FWH part of the acronym, that is SO VERY APT, means??? :shrug:

:)

[Dr.Fine]

did we just witness Dodd & Biden locking up Cabinet positions? I hope not but this process is nothing if not let's make a deal.

[dirk digler]

Would you care to know what the FWH part of the acronym, that is SO VERY APT, means??? :shrug:

:)

Yes I would like to know

[Dr.Fine]

Would you care to know what the FWH part of the acronym, that is SO VERY APT, means??? :shrug:

:)

I'll bite...

[BucEyedPea]

If voters changed their vote because of that fake crying BS they need their voting rights taken away
I gotta admit I had some sympathy for her...just not enough to switch parties though.

[Mr. Kotter]

I'll bite...

National (Fat Women and Homosexuals) Education Association

;)

[dirk digler]

I gotta admit I had some sympathy for her.

You can't be serious?

[dirk digler]

National (Fat Women and Homosexuals) Education Association

;)

LMAO

I knew it. ****ing fat lesbians :cuss:

[HolmeZz]

How did you become a Chiefs fan, instead of a Patriots or Giant's fan?
You must'nt be a Yankee native.

I've lived in New Haven my whole life. I became a Chief fan when I was young because of DT and Montana(I'm an ND fan).

Oh and 2 weeks is just vacationing.

I never said I lived there. I said I know it sucked.

[Mr. Kotter]

did we just witness Dodd & Biden locking up Cabinet positions? I hope not but this process is nothing if not let's make a deal.

Too bad Edwards will throw his support to Obama....which negates and cancels Dodd/Biden/and even, Richardson "endorsements."

:shake:

[BucEyedPea]

You can't be serious?
Yep! I posted that yesterday. I felt a tad bad for her. What can I say, intellectually I can argue...but I can be a softie too....on a personal level anyway.

[Cochise]

National (Fat Women and Homosexuals) Education Association

;)

That's not true.

I bet there are a lot of them who are only fat OR homosexual and not actually both.

[Dr.Fine]

Too bad Edwards will throw his support to Obama....which negates and cancels Dodd/Biden/and even, Richardson "endorsements."

:shake:

he has no choice-imagine how his camp is feeling right now

[BucEyedPea]

I've lived in New Haven my whole life. I became a Chief fan when I was young because of DT and Montana(I'm an ND fan).

New Haven? You're one to talk.

I never said I lived there. I said I know it sucked.
Not enough to really know. Vacationing is a different perspective.
You missed the good spots. I love Europe but I would not want to live there.

You need to get out of your little glass out more often...or apartment or dorm or whatever it is you live in. Bubble perhaps? :p

[HolmeZz]

You can't be serious?

In the same way I can now sympathize with the opposition to the 19th amendment. :p

[Dr.Fine]

Yep! I posted that yesterday. I felt a tad bad for her. What can I say, intellectually I can argue...but I can be a softie too....on a personal level anyway.

I might've fell for it too, but I would attribut her "strategy" to Gergen who was all over it after the Iowa loss--wouldn't be at all surprised to see Gergen added going forward.

[dirk digler]

.but I can be a softie too....on a personal level anyway.

I bet you can ;)

[Mr. Kotter]

That's not true.

I bet there are a lot of them who are only fat OR homosexual and not actually both.

Pardon me. My bad. You are right. I meant, "National (Fat women AND/OR Homosexuals) Education Association."

We can't leave out the "male" music, band, or English instructors whose estrogen levels exceed those of Hillary. :)

[BucEyedPea]

I might've fell for it too, but I would attribut her "strategy" to Gergen who was all over it after the Iowa loss--wouldn't be at all surprised to see Gergen added going forward.
I not sure I understand your exact point here...but I don't think she faked that crack in her voice...if that's what ya' mean.

[Dr.Fine]

I not sure I understand your exact point here...but I don't think she faked that crack in her voice...if that's what ya' mean.

that's whut I mean!

[BucEyedPea]

that's whut I mean!
As a mother, I'm not fooled by crocodile tears. I think she was truly upset...just not for the right reasons. She's in it more for herself—not the country. I guess that's true of all of them to a degree but she's just as bad.

[Iowanian]

wow. ronpaul must be a reeeeeeeeal contender. He didn't even finish higher than 911iani.

[Ultra Peanut]

I gotta admit I had some sympathy for her...just not enough to switch parties though.You give a bad name to women everywhere.

[Mr. Kotter]

I not sure I understand your exact point here...but I don't think she faked that crack in her voice...if that's what ya' mean.

Bullshit. It was deliberate and staged. Just like the "Iron My Shirt" B.S. and 'zinger.' :shake:

Gergen would be one of the things that could save her sorry ass. Otherwise, despite her "success" tonight, she is toast. Even if she were to eek out the nomination over Obama (which I doubt,) she could be McGovernized in the general election....IF the 'pubs come up with a candidate soon. Too bad, it appears the pubs intend to make it "interesting." :hmmm:


:shake:

[Dr.Fine]

As a mother, I'm not fooled by crocodile tears. I think she was truly upset...just not for the right reasons. She's in it more for herself—not the country. I guess that's true of all of them to a degree but she's just as bad.

agreed but I think it's possible to get caught up in the moment, and just go with the flow--Gergen is close to the Clinton's and I don't think his admonition was lost on them--I'm not quite as cynical on her as that may sound.

[Mr. Kotter]

You give a bad name to women everywhere.

You go, girl. :clap:

:)


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[BucEyedPea]

IF the 'pubs come up with a candidate soon. Too bad, it appears the pubs intend to make it "interesting." :hmmm: :shake:
Well they're certainly in disarray for sure. Doesn't bode well.
I still say she was genuine here but I don't think it helped her as much as some seem to think.

[Cochise]

Well they're certainly in disarray for sure. Doesn't bode well.
I still say she was genuine here but I don't think it helped her as much as some seem to think.

I think Obama could have finished her with the crushing defeat that everyone expected. It's a big missed opportunity for him.

[HolmeZz]

Well they're certainly in disarray for sure. Doesn't bode well.
I still say she was genuine here but I don't think it helped her as much as some seem to think.

"Apparently, tears work.

Clinton's comeback was fueled by women, who spurned her in Iowa, but gave her a 13-point margin in New Hampshire. A Clinton loyalist said internal polling discovered New Hampshire women were overcome with sympathy for Clinton when she choked up publicly in a diner Monday under the stress of her expected loss.

"Even Obama women were moved by it," the source said."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/01/08/2008-01-08_hillary_clinton_declared_winner_in_nh.html

[BucEyedPea]

It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings. I don't expect SC to be kind to Hillary as it's a state with more than one black person.

[Mr. Kotter]

"Apparently, tears work.

Clinton's comeback was fueled by women, who spurned her in Iowa, but gave her a 13-point margin in New Hampshire. A Clinton loyalist said internal polling discovered New Hampshire women were overcome with sympathy for Clinton when she choked up publicly in a diner Monday under the stress of her expected loss.

"Even Obama women were moved by it," the source said."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/01/08/2008-01-08_hillary_clinton_declared_winner_in_nh.html

Well, damn. I'm so moved....I think we should all join hands, smoke some weed, wear tie-dyed "Hillary Rocks" t-shirts, and sing Kumbuya...


ROFL

[Cochise]

Good point on FNC just now. McCain was the champion of the surge around the time that Harry Reid said it was a failure and that the war was lost before the surge had even began.

One has to wonder how much his staunch support of the troop surge helped him.

[BucEyedPea]

Well, damn. I'm so moved....I think we should all join hands, smoke some weed, wear tie-dyed "Hillary Rocks" t-shirts, and sing Kumbuya...


ROFL

Okay let's start:

Kumbaya my lord, kumbya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbya

Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya

[Mr. Kotter]

Okay let's start:

Kumbaya my lord, kumbya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbya

Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya

First things, first....you bring the weed, did you? :shrug:

:hmmm:

[Ultra Peanut]

This is pretty funny:

Kucinich 3,485
Thompson 2,572

[BucEyedPea]

First things, first....you bring the weed, did you? :shrug:

:hmmm:
Not my thing. How 'bout a Cosmopolitan, Margherita or some niacin?

[Mr. Kotter]

This is pretty funny:

Kucinich 3,485
Thompson 2,572

Did Kucinich spend more than 8 hours in NH the last 4 months or so??? :shrug:

Yeah, FTR, Fred's gotta win, or come in a close second in S.C. or....he's toast. :shrug:

Looks like even I could vote for Obama, at that point.....heh. Which probably scares the shit outta you.

:)

[Mr. Kotter]

Not my thing. How 'bout a Cosmopolitan, Margherita or some niacin?

It's a start... :hmmm:

[Ultra Peanut]

Did Kucinich spend more than 8 hours in NH the last 4 months or so??? :shrug:

Yeah, FTR, Fred's gotta win, or come in a close second in S.C. or....he's toast. :shrug:

Looks like even I could vote for Obama, at that point.....heh. Which probably scares the shit outta you.

:)I welcome people all stripes to the Obamarama bus; Romney, Thompson, Edwards, Richardson, and McCain fans are encouraged to join. Even ex-Paultards should feel free come aboard!

Except the Stormfront segment. Which, for some reason, probably doesn't bother them too much.

[patteeu]

Hillary stole the ballots. They'll either show up by the end of the day in a stuffed ballot box or they'll be found down the road sometime in her residence by a cleaning lady.

What did I tell you?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Nights like this are why the acronym WTF was invented.

[Mr. Kotter]

Nights like this are why the acronym WTF was invented.

Because....

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:hmmm:

[Ugly Duck]

despite her "success" tonight, she is toast. Even if she were to eek out the nomination over Obama (which I doubt,) she could be McGovernized in the general election....IF the 'pubs come up with a candidate soon.

Unless the electorate is reminded of what a disaster the Repubs have been these past two terms. They might just think back on what the Republicans have done and start demanding CHANGE!! CHANGE!! CHANGE!! Oh wait.... they are saying that already... and its still the primaries...

There are more registered Republicans than Dems in NH, but 50,000 more folks voted Dem in spite of them being a relative minority...

[Ultra Peanut]

What did I tell you?ohhhhhhh shiiiiiiit

http://i16.tinypic.com/8bq29eu.jpg

LMAO


:sulk:

[Mr. Kotter]

ohhhhhhh shiiiiiiit

http://i16.tinypic.com/8bq29eu.jpg

LMAO

:sulk:

Well, I'm sure jAZ will be all over THIS....

ROFL

[Cochise]

haha... here comes that old voting machine canard...

[Ultra Peanut]

Can you blame people for grasping at any explanation other than PEOPLE ACTUALLY FELL FOR HILLARY'S BLATANT PLOYS?!

God, I still want to vomit.

[Cochise]

Can you blame people for grasping at any explanation other than PEOPLE ACTUALLY FELL FOR HILLARY'S BLATANT PLOYS?!

God, I still want to vomit.

The average person walking down the street is pretty stupid.

[Ultra Peanut]

I didn't want to believe they were that stupid, but I guess it's time to say **** all the stats and bump Mississippi and Tennessee up a notch to make room for New Hampshire at the bottom of the "dumbest states" list.