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SLAG
03-07-2008, 01:42 PM
I see these commercials advertising for fast internet "50x faster than dial up"


but honestly who is still using dialup as their main connection

I dont think its a valid comparison

So I wanted to take a poll

ChiefsCountry
03-07-2008, 01:43 PM
My parents live in a rural area and that is all they can get at their house. I know lots of people in the same boat.

SLAG
03-07-2008, 01:44 PM
My parents live in a rural area and that is all they can get at their house. I know lots of people in the same boat.


If they HAD to have a fast connection then they could always get a SAT dish for internet or even a Data Card from one of those major cell carriors

ChiefsCountry
03-07-2008, 01:49 PM
If they HAD to have a fast connection then they could always get a SAT dish for internet or even a Data Card from one of those major cell carriors

They have looked into both, and neither are available in our area.

Donger
03-07-2008, 02:06 PM
They have looked into both, and neither are available in our area.

They can't see the southern sky?

Duck Dog
03-07-2008, 02:14 PM
I am an I/N provider and most of my dial up users are either poor, old or live too far for DSL. I love it when people call and complain about the speed of dial up.

Duck Dog
03-07-2008, 02:15 PM
They can't see the southern sky?

Actually there are areas that aren't covered by satellite.

El Jefe
03-07-2008, 02:16 PM
My parents live in a rural area and that is all they can get at their house. I know lots of people in the same boat.

QFT. Where im at I have DSL, but a little more out in the country and all they can get is Dial-up.

ChiefsCountry
03-07-2008, 02:18 PM
They can't see the southern sky?

Its a weird deal, the satettile internet is only available in certain spots of the country apparently. BC they have talked to DirectTV about it several times. But still its not like they are that far from high speed, they have it at their business which is in town so its not like they are competley shut out of high speed internet.

Donger
03-07-2008, 02:31 PM
Actually there are areas that aren't covered by satellite.

In the contiguous US?

StcChief
03-07-2008, 02:34 PM
DSL modem.

Skip Towne
03-07-2008, 02:35 PM
Its a weird deal, the satettile internet is only available in certain spots of the country apparently. BC they have talked to DirectTV about it several times. But still its not like they are that far from high speed, they have it at their business which is in town so its not like they are competley shut out of high speed internet.

I think both Directv and Wild Blue are available in the "Lower 48".

Deberg_1990
03-07-2008, 02:38 PM
Hell yea! 28.8 Fo Life Yo!

Mecca
03-07-2008, 02:42 PM
My parents live in a rural area and that is all they can get at their house. I know lots of people in the same boat.

Remind me to never move to a small town, it would kill my porn downloads!

Duck Dog
03-07-2008, 02:57 PM
In the contiguous US?

Sure. Conventional satellites, using Ku-band, will use a single down link beam to cover a single area on the Earth, a Broadband satellite using Ka-band, will use multiple spot beams to provide the same coverage. In theory the two cover the same amount of area but the reality is that spot beams don't always overlap.

patteeu
03-07-2008, 03:12 PM
I live a few miles too far out in the country so I can't get DSL. I'm stuck on dialup.

I've thought about getting satellite, but I've held off because I'm hoping they get DSL to my area eventually. I also play a weekly game of starcraft with some old college friends (who used to be my old D&D group, RIP Gary Gygax) and you can't play games like that over satellite.

Donger
03-07-2008, 03:28 PM
Sure. Conventional satellites, using Ku-band, will use a single down link beam to cover a single area on the Earth, a Broadband satellite using Ka-band, will use multiple spot beams to provide the same coverage. In theory the two cover the same amount of area but the reality is that spot beams don't always overlap.

Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks for the information.

AZORChiefFan
03-07-2008, 03:48 PM
My mom still uses the dial-up.

Now she wants a laptop that "has the CD and the DVD on it".

I love my mom.

Duck Dog
03-07-2008, 03:50 PM
I live a few miles too far out in the country so I can't get DSL. I'm stuck on dialup.

I've thought about getting satellite, but I've held off because I'm hoping they get DSL to my area eventually. I also play a weekly game of starcraft with some old college friends (who used to be my old D&D group, RIP Gary Gygax) and you can't play games like that over satellite.

How far do you live from your exchange? Other companies around our exchanges won't offer DSL to subscribers who live more than about 3 miles from the C.O. or the nearest fiber cabinet. They do that because they can't guarantee at least a 256K connection. I offer DSL to my customers as far as 6 miles because I know they'll be happier with 160-200K more than any speeds they can get from dial up. However I do that with their understanding that the length of the loop will slow their speeds a bit, so they don't call me up and scream at me.

Duck Dog
03-07-2008, 03:54 PM
Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks for the information.

There are holes all over Wild Blue's coverage area's, plus they don't have enough satellite muscle to handle the demand. I stayed pretty up to date on Wild Blue for a few years until I decided to not become a dealer. I don't know much at all about Direct TV.

chasedude
03-07-2008, 03:56 PM
Some of you people that still living on Dial up have no Wireless broadband broadcasts? I know many of the ISP's are configuring wireless LOS towers. The ISP I have does have one. My mother lives in a rural area were DSL and Cable lines dont reach. She's on a 1.5mbps connection through a wireless "dish" mounted on her house. The only stipulation on this type of connection is there has to be a LOS (Line of Sight) to the tower. Many Rural ISP's have this feature to pickup customers they never could reach.

SLAG
03-07-2008, 04:00 PM
I think the poll results show those ads are a load of shit

BigMeatballDave
03-07-2008, 04:05 PM
If I had to use dial-up, I'd kill myself...

BigMeatballDave
03-07-2008, 04:14 PM
I think the poll results show those ads are a load of shitHow do you figure?

Baconeater
03-07-2008, 05:08 PM
OK, I admit it, I'm still using dial-up. I refuse to do business with Cox or Directv, and that only leaves Qwest who want 80 ****ing dollars to install their shit, and I'm too cheap to pay them that. Seriously, WTF is there to install that I can't handle? Some software and a ****ing cable? **** 'em, it's not like I do all that much on the internet anyway, it's just not that important to me.

alanm
03-07-2008, 06:08 PM
OK, I admit it, I'm still using dial-up. I refuse to do business with Cox or Directv, and that only leaves Qwest who want 80 ****ing dollars to install their shit, and I'm too cheap to pay them that. Seriously, WTF is there to install that I can't handle? Some software and a ****ing cable? **** 'em, it's not like I do all that much on the internet anyway, it's just not that important to me.
GB, We have about 8-9 internet providers for Scottsbluff alone. And a quick search of Omaha on Yellow Pages showed 45 right off the bat.
Face it you're a tightwad, or as I like to call it frugal like me. Only I broke down and got DSL last year from Embarq which was formerly Sprint here for $19.95 a month for as long as I want the service. Embarq is 2 blks away from my house and I'm getting almost 1 mbps. I consider that pretty decent for $20 a month. :thumb:

KcMizzou
03-07-2008, 06:19 PM
Roadrunner here.

Skip Towne
03-07-2008, 06:21 PM
There are holes all over Wild Blue's coverage area's, plus they don't have enough satellite muscle to handle the demand. I stayed pretty up to date on Wild Blue for a few years until I decided to not become a dealer. I don't know much at all about Direct TV.

Wild Blue oversells their capabilities the way I understand it. Directv has beaucoup TV ads saying they can serve you anywhere in the contiguous US.

elvomito
03-07-2008, 06:31 PM
with that satellite stuff, you get 800-1000ms ping times right? that's worse than dialup
apparently at&t and sprint have the plug-in usb wireless internet for $50/month, available anywhere they have coverage. verizon does too but they supposedly cut you off for using too much bandwidth. anybody use the wireless from at&t or sprint?

BigMeatballDave
03-07-2008, 06:34 PM
Suck it, dial-up bitches! :D

http://www.speedtest.net/result/243554251.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-07-2008, 06:35 PM
Satellite will have a ping time of at least 250 ms just due to the speed of light.

Kerberos
03-07-2008, 06:36 PM
Wild Blue oversells their capabilities the way I understand it. Directv has beaucoup TV ads saying they can serve you anywhere in the contiguous US.

Is the DirecTV equipment for internet reception still "Ridiculously" overpriced and have "LAG" (Or so I have heard of the DTV lag)?

SLAG
03-07-2008, 06:37 PM
with that satellite stuff, you get 800-1000ms ping times right? that's worse than dialup
apparently at&t and sprint have the plug-in usb wireless internet for $50/month, available anywhere they have coverage. verizon does too but they supposedly cut you off for using too much bandwidth. anybody use the wireless from at&t or sprint?


Sprints EVDO REV A coverage is pretty good and you get some REAL fast speeds for cell phone card

If i could swing an extra $50/mo I would have one as a back up

Skip Towne
03-07-2008, 06:41 PM
Is the DirecTV equipment for internet reception still "Ridiculously" overpriced and have "LAG" (Or so I have heard of the DTV lag)?

Yep. I don't recommend it.

Guru
03-07-2008, 07:12 PM
GB, We have about 8-9 internet providers for Scottsbluff alone. And a quick search of Omaha on Yellow Pages showed 45 right off the bat.
Face it you're a tightwad, or as I like to call it frugal like me. Only I broke down and got DSL last year from Embarq which was formerly Sprint here for $19.95 a month for as long as I want the service. Embarq is 2 blks away from my house and I'm getting almost 1 mbps. I consider that pretty decent for $20 a month. :thumb:

Hell, i am about to go back to dialup if my DSL continues to increase rates by $5 every year. I have already dropped my speed to keep it at 20 bucks. the idea of dropping speed again and still paying the same is really pissing me off.

Stick it to the consumer while the rest of the world gets cheap internet.

Skip Towne
03-07-2008, 07:18 PM
Hell, i am about to go back to dialup if my DSL continues to increase rates by $5 every year. I have already dropped my speed to keep it at 20 bucks. the idea of dropping speed again and still paying the same is really pissing me off.

Stick it to the consumer while the rest of the world gets cheap internet.

I have ATT DSL for $14.95 per month. I don't know the speed.

seclark
03-07-2008, 07:23 PM
i work for a telco/isp.
if we can get you dsl/adsl/etc through the phone line, it's the way to go.
if not through that, wireless, which covers a lot broader area.
if not wireless, we'll hook you up to wild blew

i agree w/duck dog and skip on their takes
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elvomito
03-07-2008, 07:24 PM
what wireless options do you have there?

Guru
03-07-2008, 07:28 PM
I have ATT DSL for $14.95 per month. I don't know the speed.
Yeah, that used to be their lowest teir at 768 down and 256 up. Get ready for the rate increase when you year is up though as that package is now the $20 package. That is probably what I will have to drop to and it ticks me off.

SLAG
03-07-2008, 07:35 PM
Yeah, that used to be their lowest teir at 768 down and 256 up. Get ready for the rate increase when you year is up though as that package is now the $20 package. That is probably what I will have to drop to and it ticks me off.


I just went from paying $24/mo no contracts for 3mb down 512/up I paid $10 more and got 6mb/up and 768k Down

Im happpy with my service

if you sign up for Uverse they automatically put you on the 10mb/down 1mb up i believe

seclark
03-07-2008, 07:37 PM
what wireless options do you have there?

depends on where you're at. we've got 700, 900, 2.4, 5.8 systems spread around our area. access points on towers, water towers, grain legs, bins, wherever it's high enough to broadcast a signal.

if you can pay your bill, and we can get you a signal, the man will cut a deal.

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Guru
03-07-2008, 07:41 PM
I just went from paying $24/mo no contracts for 3mb down 512/up I paid $10 more and got 6mb/up and 768k Down

Im happpy with my service

if you sign up for Uverse they automatically put you on the 10mb/down 1mb up i believe

$20 is my personal limit though. I don't do much downloading so superfast is not that important to me.

listopencil
03-07-2008, 08:19 PM
I just recently upgraded my DSL. Now I pay $20 a month for it instead of $15.

BigMeatballDave
03-07-2008, 09:22 PM
I have ATT DSL for $14.95 per month. I don't know the speed.http://www.speedtest.net/

Skip Towne
03-07-2008, 09:27 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/

Thanks

alanm
03-07-2008, 09:33 PM
I have ATT DSL for $14.95 per month. I don't know the speed.Here you go.http://myspeed.visualware.com/

Fruit Ninja
03-07-2008, 09:34 PM
Do people still actually have phone lines in their house? lol

elvomito
03-07-2008, 09:47 PM
depends on where you're at. we've got 700, 900, 2.4, 5.8 systems spread around our area. access points on towers, water towers, grain legs, bins, wherever it's high enough to broadcast a signal.

if you can pay your bill, and we can get you a signal, the man will cut a deal.

secdo you know of anyone who offers that service in the KC area? i've searched hard and found none

KcMizzou
03-07-2008, 09:49 PM
Do people still actually have phone lines in their house? lolI do... kinda. Digital phone, comes with the cable and internet.

I don't have a cell phone. (gasp!)

Deberg_1990
03-07-2008, 09:52 PM
I don't have a cell phone. (gasp!)

Wow! We found the last man on Earth without a cell phone!

Guru
03-07-2008, 09:54 PM
Wow! We found the last man on Earth without a cell phone!

I at least use Net10 Geez!!!

KcMizzou
03-07-2008, 09:56 PM
Wow! We found the last man on Earth without a cell phone!Seriously.

To be honest... I just don't want to be that easy to get ahold of... I hate talking on the phone, really. I do it all day at work. When I use the phone at home, I say what I wanna say, and get off. When I get stuck with someone who wants to talk for 30 minutes, I'm miserable. I'd much rather they just come over and hang out.

Maybe I'm weird.

Deberg_1990
03-07-2008, 10:04 PM
Seriously.

To be honest... I just don't want to be that easy to get ahold of... I hate talking on the phone, really. I do it all day at work. When I use the phone at home, I say what I wanna say, and get off. When I get stuck with someone who wants to talk for 30 minutes, I'm miserable. I'd much rather they just come over and hang out.

Maybe I'm weird.

I hear ya man. My wife is a talker and loves to chat. Me, not so much. For years we only had one cell for her mainly. Ive only recently gotten one in the past few months.


Honestly, people dont need Cells as much as they think they do. I mean, people got along just fine without them for thousands of years right?

KcMizzou
03-07-2008, 10:08 PM
I hear ya man. My wife is a talker and loves to chat. Me, not so much. For years we only had one cell for her mainly. Ive only recently gotten one in the past few months.


Honestly, people dont need Cells as much as they think they do. I mean, people got along just fine without them for thousands of years right?Yeah... my phone conversations are usually maybe 10 minutes of real conversation, followed by me saying "Yeah" and "Uh-huh" for 20 minutes. Maybe I'm just an anti-social bastard. A phone to my ear feels like a ball and chain on my leg.

alanm
03-07-2008, 10:09 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/
I actually like this site a little better because of the eye candy. Cept it tells me I live 58 miles from KC and 550 from Denver.:D

Baconeater
03-07-2008, 10:37 PM
GB, We have about 8-9 internet providers for Scottsbluff alone. And a quick search of Omaha on Yellow Pages showed 45 right off the bat.
Face it you're a tightwad, or as I like to call it frugal like me. Only I broke down and got DSL last year from Embarq which was formerly Sprint here for $19.95 a month for as long as I want the service. Embarq is 2 blks away from my house and I'm getting almost 1 mbps. I consider that pretty decent for $20 a month. :thumb:
Well shit, maybe I need to look around more, I thought I was limited to whoever was willing to run a cable up to my house.

Suck it, dial-up bitches! :D

http://www.speedtest.net/result/243554251.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
That might bother me if I had any idea what it meant.

Baconeater
03-07-2008, 10:40 PM
Seriously.

To be honest... I just don't want to be that easy to get ahold of... I hate talking on the phone, really. I do it all day at work. When I use the phone at home, I say what I wanna say, and get off. When I get stuck with someone who wants to talk for 30 minutes, I'm miserable. I'd much rather they just come over and hang out.

Maybe I'm weird.
I'm with you, I absolutely despise the telephone, whenever it rings it's always somebody wanting something. That's one good thing about dial-up, when I'm on I know the phone will be quiet.

Bearcat
03-07-2008, 10:47 PM
Dialup? I've never even paid for land-line phone service.

Seriously.

To be honest... I just don't want to be that easy to get ahold of... I hate talking on the phone, really. I do it all day at work. When I use the phone at home, I say what I wanna say, and get off. When I get stuck with someone who wants to talk for 30 minutes, I'm miserable. I'd much rather they just come over and hang out.

Maybe I'm weird.

Those are perfect reasons to get a cell phone!

- Turning off your cell phone is very easy. Actually, it's easier than unplugging your land line, because you don't have to get up.
- If you hate small talk, text messaging is the way to go. Quick, one line text messages aren't considered rude because who wants to pay for more messages?
- If you do get stuck talking to someone on a cell phone, you can get up and go to a bar, and not be tied down to the couch. If you think it'll be a really long conversation, buy a gun!
- WTF weren't you answering your phone last night?
Landline: "Uh..."
Cell: "It never rang", "Bad signal in the basement", "Battery died", "Forgot to turn it off silent after work"

Chiefmanwillcatch
03-08-2008, 12:04 AM
There are a lot of people that don't need broadband.

Broadband prices aren't going to come down to the $10 price like dialup.

Baconeater
03-08-2008, 01:19 AM
- WTF weren't you answering your phone last night?

Landline w/dial up: Sorry, I was on the internet. :D

Cochise
03-08-2008, 01:42 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/243641410.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Ari Chi3fs
03-08-2008, 02:09 AM
This should have been a public poll, so we could all laugh and point fingers at those less fortunate.

Ultra Peanut
03-08-2008, 02:54 AM
I would sooner stab myself in the face.

Smed1065
03-08-2008, 03:56 AM
My parents live in a rural area and that is all they can get at their house. I know lots of people in the same boat.

Same, no other option 25 miles from town. Not that they want to but have too. Unless dish for $50 a month?

City folks-LOL

alanm
03-08-2008, 08:26 AM
Wow! We found the last man on Earth without a cell phone!
Nope, I still don't have a cell phone as well. I still have a land line for various reasons. I've no need or desire for people to have access to me 24/7. I don't want 2 phone bills a month. And the majority of people I know spend 90% of their time either texting or looking at stupid email or video. Guess I just don't get the texting since it would be faster talking.

alanm
03-08-2008, 08:29 AM
Seriously.

To be honest... I just don't want to be that easy to get ahold of... I hate talking on the phone, really. I do it all day at work. When I use the phone at home, I say what I wanna say, and get off. When I get stuck with someone who wants to talk for 30 minutes, I'm miserable. I'd much rather they just come over and hang out.

Maybe I'm weird.
Exactly!:thumb:

alanm
03-08-2008, 08:34 AM
I hear ya man. My wife is a talker and loves to chat. Me, not so much. For years we only had one cell for her mainly. Ive only recently gotten one in the past few months.


Honestly, people dont need Cells as much as they think they do. I mean, people got along just fine without them for thousands of years right?
Not to mention the hefty bill most people have every month. I pay $71 for phone and DSL combined. Most people I know, their cell phone bill each month is more than that. ROFL

seclark
03-08-2008, 08:45 AM
do you know of anyone who offers that service in the KC area? i've searched hard and found none

check your mail...
thanks,
sec
also, i wouldn't have a cell phone if my employer wasn't paying for the damn thing.