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Oxford
08-08-2001, 02:16 PM
Oh my, is this one going to light up the digital airwaves. From DV's comments about "feeling comfortable coaching a particular player" and DA's attitude of "I'll do it my way" what do you think? For those of you better versed than I in the NFL, what team would you trade him to and for whom???

bishop_74
08-08-2001, 02:17 PM
What?

htismaqe
08-08-2001, 02:29 PM
I would say we have to wait until the season starts and stuff starts happening...

Obviously, the staff thinks DA needs to work harder and display certain skills to flourish in this offense. If he can't do that, trading him certainly would be the logical thing to do -- he would have good value...

phillfree
08-08-2001, 02:42 PM
When is DAs contract up? I have been thinking that when he becomes a FA he will be allowed to move on. I believe Morris and Minnis will be our two starting WRs when DA moves on. They are the future at WR for the Chiefs.

PhilFree :cool:

htismaqe
08-08-2001, 02:45 PM
Oh my God...

I would fully expect to see DA sent packing after THIS YEAR...take a look at his salary...

Salary History
2006 4000000
2005 4000000
2004 4000000
2003 3475000
2002 3475000
2001 500000
2000 452500
1999 400000
1998 1000000
1997 661250
1996 552500
1995 443750
1994 435000

phillfree
08-08-2001, 02:49 PM
htismaqe, does DAs contract really run through 2006? There would have to be some kind of "Out Clauses" in a contract like that. I actually thought it was up after this year or next. Where's the rub?

PhilFree:cool:

Phobia
08-08-2001, 02:51 PM
I knew this was gonna come up. I think nearly any team could use him except San Fran, Oakland, Denver, StL, NO, Vikings.

Atop the most likely teams would be Philly, Miami, Giants, Redskins (no cap room though), Cleveland, Pissburg, & B-more would probably covet the idea of getting DA & Grbac together again. If he can't be traded for anything of value, I suspect he could be left exposed for Houston next year.

Phillfree, htis just pulled that info from nflpa - it doesn't have clauses or signing bonus info.

htismaqe
08-08-2001, 02:53 PM
Apparently this was part of a re-negotiation in 1998, from the looks of the balloon payments...he is under contract until 2006

phillfree
08-08-2001, 02:56 PM
My memory could be failing me but I don't think we signed DA until 1998. We signed Rison in '97 and DA in '98.

PhilFree:cool:

Phobia
08-08-2001, 03:05 PM
Yes, we got DA in 99, but he renegotiated his contract in the past year or 2.

phillfree
08-08-2001, 03:11 PM
signing as an unrestricted free agent with the club on March 2nd of 98 from Baltimore ... Although relatively unsung outside of Kansas City, has ---per kcchiefsonline bio

PhilFree:cool:

Rausch
08-08-2001, 03:15 PM
Why is it that someone in here always wants to trade our best players?

What are we, THE ROYALS!?!


:confused: :( :confused:

Hoover
08-08-2001, 03:19 PM
I think I will just wait and see what kinfd of numbers he puts up this year. We can always redo his current contract and get that number down. Morris and Minnis are both two years away from being #1 and #2 wr on this team. If DV wants to make the Super Bowl in year three DA has to be on that team.

Hoover

Chiefs Pantalones
08-08-2001, 03:28 PM
To be honest, and not to mention, SANE, we will not trade DA after this year or anytime. Snoop has yet to do anything (have I missed the 2001 season, I must have been asleep:rolleyes: ) and WRs do not have a good history of coming back from ACL injuries, and if they do come back, they are not the same.

CG

takin the homer glasses off for a little bit...but Snoop and Morris have not done ****, and if we trade DA...oh my.

I suggest you guys wait until AFTER THE SEASON to start this insanity:D

morphius
08-08-2001, 03:45 PM
I have to go with Brad_Caudle...

Morphius
Great comment Brad.

Chiefs Pantalones
08-08-2001, 03:49 PM
Plus, we already need another WR, so if we trade or not resign DA, then we will have to go after more than one WR next offseason, either via FA or the draft.

Oh well, I'm hoping for the best...

GO CHIEFS!!!:)

Oxford
08-08-2001, 04:48 PM
I figured this would set a fire..... My point is this and only this... DV has made it very clear about people needing to work to achieve the highest level of accomplishment. I am not for trading anyone (I understand why the Royals did Dye, I didn't like it but I understand it), but I am for improving this team. If DA doesn't understand how to be the #1 WR he can be in terms of this offense, then he is a drag on this team. I'm tired of "combine numbers" as a way of evaluating talent, too many player suceed otherwise (Jim Lynch, Dave Szott, Kimble Anders to name only a few). If TG doesn't throw to him, then he'll sulk like last year.

FloridaChief
08-08-2001, 05:04 PM
I'd like to formally nominate this as "The Most Insane Thread Of The Week"...

DA is the only proven WR success we have on the roster right now. We don't know a d@mn thing about how Minnis, R. Hall, Klemic, Moses or Simon will perform in an actual game. On the other hand, we know all to well how Mayes, D. Hall, Parker and Thomas have performed...not exactly world-beaters so far...and Horne was brought in to return kick-offs.

And so you guys really consider trading away...oh, the hell with it...

Chiefs Pantalones
08-08-2001, 05:07 PM
Oxford,

We never know whats going to happen, so you could be right about trading DA or something of that extent (hopefully not) but I've seen weirder things happen.:eek:

CG

hopes DV sets a fire under DAs ***, though:D

htismaqe
08-08-2001, 05:13 PM
I'm not suggesting that we trade Derrick Alexander...you guys are blowing this WAY out of proportion...


I'm merely pointing out that the coaching staff, to date, is not happy with him and that he's scheduled to make almost FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS over the next 4 years...

FloridaChief
08-08-2001, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by htismaqe
...he's scheduled to make almost FIFTEEN MILLION DOLLARS over the next 4 years...

htismaqe,

Don't get me wrong, I see your point here...that's a hellava lot of money and, frankly, Alexander's not worth that kind of $$ (right now,at least)--however, I don't think DA is ever going to see the fruits of that contract realized...

You all know how contracts get restructured in the NFL, especially those backloaded like DA's. And, IIRC, Derrick has already shown his propensity to restructure his to lower the Chief's salary cap in the past.

keg in kc
08-08-2001, 05:26 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him traded following the 2001 season, although I'm not sure how much we'd be responsible for in terms of salary bonuses. The fact is, the guy has been continually chastised this offseason for his attitude, and unless he takes care of that, I think there's a chance he'll be on the first bus out, regardless of how he performs during the season.

Look at it this way, Alexander is the best receiver we have right now, but he's anything but irreplaceable. I'm not sure who will be available via free agency next year, so I can't address that, but we have a full salvo of draft picks at our disposal next season if we care to trade to acquire a receiver from someone (plus whatever picks we'd get for DA).