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Ari Chi3fs
03-08-2008, 01:22 AM
I would assume its a push...

but, I just played in the casino... and we both got blackjack, and I got hosed. :cuss:

In the real world, wouldn't it be a push?

ChiefaRoo
03-08-2008, 01:27 AM
If you both get a two card Blackjack it's a push. It's not possible for you to lose.

Smed1065
03-08-2008, 01:30 AM
It is for Ari.

LOL

Just ask me..

Bump
03-08-2008, 01:47 AM
any casino I've ever played black jack in it's a push, you just get your money back, you shouldn't lose anything. What casino were you playing in?

HemiEd
03-08-2008, 05:55 AM
It is a push, I can visualize the double tap of the dealers hand now.

xbarretx
03-08-2008, 07:37 AM
I would assume its a push...

but, I just played in the casino... and we both got blackjack, and I got hosed. :cuss:

In the real world, wouldn't it be a push?

what happens? ill tell you, its...

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

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Bacon Cheeseburger
03-08-2008, 08:09 AM
It's happened to me several times in the CP casino, and Ari is correct, the player loses. It's ****ed up.

seclark
03-08-2008, 08:12 AM
when i was taught(years & years ago) the house won all ties...so if you and the dealer both get blackjack, the dealer wins.

i'd think it would be best if you checked the house rules from where you're playing.

gambling's a sin anyways...i use the money for booze.
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Bacon Cheeseburger
03-08-2008, 08:15 AM
when i was taught(years & years ago) the house won all ties...so if you and the dealer both get blackjack, the dealer wins.
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Well what's ****ed up is all other ties are a push, except when you both get blackjack.

BigMeatballDave
03-08-2008, 08:35 AM
The dealer here is a crook.

Smed1065
03-08-2008, 08:39 AM
U LOSZ!

synthesis2
03-08-2008, 09:32 AM
Actually if you get blackjack you get paid then and there before the dealer even turns over his cards. Thats how it works in Vegas. The dealer is not supposed to even turn over his cards if you get 21 then they pay you right away. You got robbed. But I am 100% possitive about it. I go to Vegas 4 to 5 times and year and I'll I play is blackjack.

TinyEvel
03-08-2008, 09:54 AM
You have to stop playing BlackJack with Carl Peterson.

dj56dt58
03-08-2008, 10:06 AM
Actually if you get blackjack you get paid then and there before the dealer even turns over his cards. Thats how it works in Vegas. The dealer is not supposed to even turn over his cards if you get 21 then they pay you right away. You got robbed. But I am 100% possitive about it. I go to Vegas 4 to 5 times and year and I'll I play is blackjack.

yup..thats correct

RedDread
03-08-2008, 10:13 AM
Not quite. If the dealer deals you a blackjack and has an Ace showing, they will offer "even money" where you won't get paid 3:2 for your blackjack. If you don't take even money you get paid 3:2 if they don't have it, or push if they do. If they have a 10 card showing and an ace is underneath, it's a push.

chief52
03-08-2008, 10:20 AM
Actually if you get blackjack you get paid then and there before the dealer even turns over his cards. Thats how it works in Vegas. The dealer is not supposed to even turn over his cards if you get 21 then they pay you right away. You got robbed. But I am 100% possitive about it. I go to Vegas 4 to 5 times and year and I'll I play is blackjack.

No, the dealer will ask for insurance and look at his hand before he even starts dealing or paying the players if he has an ace showing.

Ari Chi3fs
03-08-2008, 10:33 AM
I was playing in the Chiefsplanet Casino...

Hog Farmer
03-08-2008, 10:41 AM
You must tie a lot!!!!!!!!

KcMizzou
03-08-2008, 10:48 AM
when i was taught(years & years ago) the house won all ties...so if you and the dealer both get blackjack, the dealer wins.
That's the way I learned too.

Bowser
03-08-2008, 11:43 AM
I would assume its a push...

but, I just played in the casino... and we both got blackjack, and I got hosed. :cuss:

In the real world, wouldn't it be a push?

The dealer gets to cap your ass in the real world.

TinyEvel
03-08-2008, 11:46 AM
In real Vegas BlackJack, if the dealer's up card is an ace, He'll offer insurance to anyone (a sucker bet, oddswise) in which case you can ask for even money (instead of one-and-a-half times your bet as payout).

otherwise, if the dealer has a blackjack, it's a push.

THere are a slew of new variations of 21 (Spanish 21, Super Fun 21 Lucky face card 21, American Idol 21, etc. etc.) sweeping the casinos these days in a slew of gimmick games that offer high bonus payouts for unusual hands (i.e. a queen of hearts + ace of hearts BlackJack) but there is always some kind of catch elsewhere in the game (i.e. dealer wins all pushed, BlackJack pays even money, etc) these are all sucker games.

alnorth
03-08-2008, 11:48 AM
No, the dealer will ask for insurance and look at his hand before he even starts dealing or paying the players if he has an ace showing.

Yep, and if the ace is the down card, you dont even get an opportunity to buy insurance, its an immediate push.

On a side note, "even money" is not a good deal for the player, unless you are counting and believe a dealer blackjack is likely due to the count. Taking even money on a Blackjack is IDENTICAL to buying insurance for everyone else, and if you think buying insurance is a bad deal, then so is taking even money.

I get a lot of odd looks when I refuse even money. The only time I ever buy insurance is when the count is higher than +1. (Making a ten card more likely)

alnorth
03-08-2008, 11:54 AM
Actually if you get blackjack you get paid then and there before the dealer even turns over his cards. Thats how it works in Vegas. The dealer is not supposed to even turn over his cards if you get 21 then they pay you right away. You got robbed. But I am 100% possitive about it. I go to Vegas 4 to 5 times and year and I'll I play is blackjack.

Thats simply wrong. If the dealer has blackjack, you will not get paid 3:2 under any circumstances whatsoever. Youll either push or get paid 1:1 if you take insurance when an ace is showing.

If the dealer has a 10 up, they always check through a small peephole mirror to see if they have the ace, and if they do, its game over, no one gets to hit, stand, or do anything. Everyone loses except push for player blackjack.

Cochise
03-08-2008, 04:24 PM
I would like to see the source for that blackjack app, i've put all my casino cash into it since the app was put up here, and the player loss rate just seems too high to be realistic.

Another thing I noticed is that it didn't let me split aces IIRC. I've played in places that wouldn't let you resplit them, or if you split aces you only get one card (i think), but they never make you play the 2/12

Cochise
03-08-2008, 04:27 PM
addendum: I think the CP dealer stayed on soft 17, which I think they normally are supposed to hit.

Cochise
03-08-2008, 04:30 PM
In addition, if you play to a bust, the dealer plays out and may also bust. Not a problem I guess in itself, but normally they would just take your money as soon as you bust.

Bacon Cheeseburger
03-08-2008, 07:28 PM
I would like to see the source for that blackjack app, i've put all my casino cash into it since the app was put up here, and the player loss rate just seems too high to be realistic.

Another thing I noticed is that it didn't let me split aces IIRC. I've played in places that wouldn't let you resplit them, or if you split aces you only get one card (i think), but they never make you play the 2/12

If you are dealt two aces you can split them, but if either of them result in blackjack it doesn't pay 3:2, and you still have to let the dealer play out his hand, it doesn't immediately payout.