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Count Zarth
03-11-2008, 08:54 PM
For some reasons I had an urge to do this last night. Here are all the QBs of note Carl has missed out on in the last 20 years.

1989 - none
1990 - none
1991 - none

1992 -

1st round, Tommy Maddox, we drafted Dale Carter - win for Carl (especially since Maddox played at UCLA)

6th round, Jeff Blake, we drafted WR Tony Smith - major loss for Carl

1993 - none
1994 - none
1995 - none
1996 - none
1997 - none

1998 -

3rd round, Brian Griese, we drafted RB Rashaan Sheehee - major loss for Carl.

6th round, Matt Hasselbeck, we drafted DT Derrick Ransom - major loss for Carl.

1999 -

4th round, Aaron Brooks, we drafted WR Larry Parker - major loss for Carl.

2000 - 6th round, Tom Brady, we drafted OT Darnell Alford - major loss for Carl.

2001 - none

2002 - 4th round, David Garrard, we drafted RB Omar Easy - major loss for Carl.

2003 - none
2004 - none

2005 - 1st round, Jason Campbell, we drafted LB Derrick Johnson - win for Carl.

6th round, Derek Anderson, we drafted OT Will Svitek and DE Khari Long - major loss for Carl. Two chances and he blew it. Wow.

2006 - Tarvaris Jackson, 2nd round, we drafted S Bernard Pollard. I'd call this a draw for now. If Jackson turns into something good, we can chalk another one up against Carl.

Final Tally:

11 chances to take a quarterback of note in the same round, eight losses, two wins, one tie. Wonderful.

Deberg_1990
03-11-2008, 08:56 PM
2005 we passed on Aaron Rodgers as well...

Ebolapox
03-11-2008, 08:58 PM
he didn't miss out on brett favre in 1991?

you're and idiot.

doomy3
03-11-2008, 08:58 PM
Actually that's not too bad at all.

Ebolapox
03-11-2008, 08:59 PM
sh*t, you're a MAJOR idiot. you forgot to mention how he missed out on marino by picking todd f*cking BLACKLEDGE

Count Zarth
03-11-2008, 08:59 PM
he didn't miss out on brett favre in 1991?

you're and idiot.

No. Brett Favre was off the board before we drafted in the 2nd round that year. I guess you can say we should have taken him with our late 1st, but no other team did, so why should I fault Carl for that?

sh*t, you're a MAJOR idiot. you forgot to mention how he missed out on marino by picking todd f*cking BLACKLEDGE

Carl was not with the team until 1989.

KCChiefsMan
03-11-2008, 09:02 PM
hindsight is always 20/20. But we never do draft QBs. Brodie and that guy from Cal a while back, that played with Tony G are the only 2 QBs I can think of that we drafted in the first 5 rounds.

Ebolapox
03-11-2008, 09:02 PM
No. Brett Favre was off the board before we drafted in the 2nd round that year. I guess you can say we should have taken him with our late 1st, but no other team did, so why should I fault Carl for that?

aside from an injury before his senior year, he was hyped for the heisman. remember, the first round back then didn't last as long as it does now. I realize that favre was a total bust in atlanta and the packers lucked out when he got his act together in KC, but there's a part of me that fantasizes the chiefs had barry sanders fallen to us in 1989 and brett favre spending his career as a chief. that would've owned.

oh well--in some parallel universe, we have multiple super bowls led by favre and sanders.

KCChiefsMan
03-11-2008, 09:03 PM
sh*t, you're a MAJOR idiot. you forgot to mention how he missed out on marino by picking todd f*cking BLACKLEDGE

you may wanna check your facts before calling someone out. CP wasn't our GM quite yet that year.

Ebolapox
03-11-2008, 09:03 PM
Carl was not with the team until 1989.

you're not this stupid. you may act like it sometimes, but you're NOT that stupid.

did you seriously miss the most obvious TIC carl peterson joke of all-time? the 'blackledge for marino' joke?!?

:spock:

Count Zarth
03-11-2008, 09:07 PM
you're not this stupid. you may act like it sometimes, but you're NOT that stupid.

did you seriously miss the most obvious TIC carl peterson joke of all-time? the 'blackledge for marino' joke?!?

:spock:

You missed my super subtle humor! Ho ho ho!

Ebolapox
03-11-2008, 09:10 PM
You missed my super subtle humor! Ho ho ho!

not the time or place, but did you seriously come out of the closet? when did you out yourself? cause, you know, if you don't out yourself online, it doesn't count.

Count Zarth
03-11-2008, 09:11 PM
not the time or place, but did you seriously come out of the closet? when did you out yourself? cause, you know, if you don't out yourself online, it doesn't count.

This thread is about quarterbacks. If you want to know about my sexuality, start another thread.

Rain Man
03-11-2008, 09:13 PM
Isn't it kind of unfair to make the comparison only to quarterbacks who were successful? In fairness, you should add comparisons to all of the quarterbacks that were drafted.

Count Zarth
03-11-2008, 09:14 PM
Isn't it kind of unfair to make the comparison only to quarterbacks who were successful? In fairness, you should add comparisons to all of the quarterbacks that were drafted.

Why? We don't care about potential busts he could have drafted, only potential successes.

Ebolapox
03-11-2008, 09:16 PM
This thread is about quarterbacks. If you want to know about my sexuality, start another thread.

squiggle squiggle, bob. first you leave forever, then come back. you suck dick for coke, or don't you?

Bowser
03-11-2008, 09:18 PM
Who of note did we miss out on by taking Pat Barnes in the fourth round in 97 or 98?

DaneMcCloud
03-11-2008, 09:18 PM
hindsight is always 20/20. But we never do draft QBs. Brodie and that guy from Cal a while back, that played with Tony G are the only 2 QBs I can think of that we drafted in the first 5 rounds.

How could you forget Mike Elkins (2nd round, 1989) or Matt Blundin (second round 1993)?

Count Zarth
03-11-2008, 09:20 PM
Who of note did we miss out on by taking Pat Barnes in the fourth round in 97 or 98?

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Rain Man
03-11-2008, 09:22 PM
Why? We don't care about potential busts he could have drafted, only potential successes.

You're comparing him to perfection. Not even the Patriots are perfect, though don't ask me to prove that.

DaneMcCloud
03-11-2008, 09:23 PM
So just one person of note: Ryan Tucker.

Big whoop.

Count Zarth
03-11-2008, 09:25 PM
So just one person of note: Ryan Tucker.

Big whoop.

Albert Connell, Tremain Mack, Seth Payne and and Keith Poole weren't total busts.

Silock
03-11-2008, 09:30 PM
Most of those QBs you listed pale in comparison to the numbers that Trent Green was putting up, so I wouldn't exactly say most of those were major losses for Carl at all, especially given the mediocrity of the majority of those names.

DaneMcCloud
03-11-2008, 09:34 PM
Albert Connell, Tremain Mack, Seth Payne and and Keith Poole weren't total busts.

Maybe not but they certainly weren't guys that turned around a franchise.

Bowser
03-11-2008, 09:34 PM
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Tucker or Payne would have worked out well. :shake:

Rain Man
03-11-2008, 09:38 PM
I thought Damien Robinson was the guy of note on that list.

DaKCMan AP
03-11-2008, 09:38 PM
<table id="round4"><tbody><tr><td class="centeralign">111</td> <td>Tremain Mack</td> <td class="positionTD">SS</td> <td>Miami (Fla.)</td> <td>Cincinnati Bengals</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">112</td> <td>Ryan Tucker</td> <td class="positionTD">C</td> <td>Texas Christian</td> <td>St. Louis Rams</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="centeralign">113</td> <td>Antonio Banks</td> <td class="positionTD">DB</td> <td>Virginia Tech</td> <td>Minnesota Vikings</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">114</td> <td>Seth Payne</td> <td class="positionTD">DT</td> <td>Cornell</td> <td>Jacksonville Jaguars</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="centeralign">115</td> <td>Albert Connell</td> <td class="positionTD">WR</td> <td>Texas A&M</td> <td>Washington Redskins</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">116</td> <td>Keith Poole</td> <td class="positionTD">WR</td> <td>Arizona State</td> <td>New Orleans Saints</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="centeralign">117</td> <td>Monty Montgomery</td> <td class="positionTD">DB</td> <td>Houston</td> <td>Indianapolis Colts</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">118</td> <td>Tyrus McCloud</td> <td class="positionTD">LB</td> <td>Louisville</td> <td>Baltimore Ravens</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="centeralign">119</td> <td>Damien Robinson</td> <td class="positionTD">DB</td> <td>Iowa</td> <td>Philadelphia Eagles</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">120</td> <td>Jamie Nails</td> <td class="positionTD">T</td> <td>Florida A&M</td> <td>Buffalo Bills</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="centeralign">121</td> <td>Jerome Daniels</td> <td class="positionTD">T</td> <td>Northeastern</td> <td>Miami Dolphins</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">122</td> <td>Tarek Saleh</td> <td class="positionTD">LB</td> <td>Wisconsin</td> <td>Carolina Panthers</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="centeralign">123</td> <td>Chad Levitt</td> <td class="positionTD">RB</td> <td>Cornell</td> <td>Oakland Raiders</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">124</td> <td>Cory Gilliard</td> <td class="positionTD">DB</td> <td>Ball State</td> <td>Denver Broncos</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="centeralign">125</td> <td>Ed Ellis</td> <td class="positionTD">T</td> <td>Buffalo</td> <td>New England Patriots</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">126</td> <td>Jermaine Smith</td> <td class="positionTD">DT</td> <td>Georgia</td> <td>Green Bay Packers</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="centeralign">127</td> <td>Macey Brooks</td> <td class="positionTD">WR</td> <td>James Madison</td> <td>Dallas Cowboys</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">128</td> <td>Alshermond Singleton</td> <td class="positionTD">LB</td> <td>Temple</td> <td>Tampa Bay Buccaneers</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="centeralign">129</td> <td>Nicky Sualua</td> <td class="positionTD">RB</td> <td>Ohio State</td> <td>Dallas Cowboys</td> </tr> <tr class="rowAlt"> <td class="centeralign">130</td> <td>Matt Russell</td> <td class="positionTD">LB</td> <td>Colorado</td> <td>Detroit Lions</td></tr></tbody></table>

Ha, no way. I have a friend from college named Tarek Saleh.

BigMeatballDave
03-12-2008, 01:42 AM
Jeff Blake, Brian Griese,

BigMeatballDave
03-12-2008, 01:49 AM
Jeff Blake, Brian Griese, Aaron Brooks, all suck. How is not picking them a loss?