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Bowser
03-12-2008, 07:51 PM
Per Sirius NFL Radio Network.

I guess they expect more out of their front office in Denver, since they haven't won a Super Bowl in a decade. Carl truly is invincible here. :shake:


Don't care if this is a repost.

BigRock
03-12-2008, 07:54 PM
I guess they expect more out of their front office in Denver
Then they'd fire Shanny. He pulls all the strings, Sundquist is yet another scapegoat. Shanny's kind of running out of guys to blame at this point, though.

Who's left to pin it on? Bolen?

milkman
03-12-2008, 07:55 PM
Difference is that the Rat pulls all the strings in Denver.

He just threw Sundquist under the bus.

Bowser
03-12-2008, 08:15 PM
Difference is that the Rat pulls all the strings in Denver.

He just threw Sundquist under the bus.

Yep.

Bowser
03-12-2008, 08:16 PM
Then they'd fire Shanny. He pulls all the strings, Sundquist is yet another scapegoat. Shanny's kind of running out of guys to blame at this point, though.

Who's left to pin it on? Bolen?

Shanahan must have incriminating photos of Bolen in his fur coat. A nuke could go off in Denver, and Shanahan would stroll out of the crater, with his teeth leading the way.

Bowser
03-12-2008, 08:19 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3290462


GM Sundquist fired as Broncos 'move forward'
Associated Press

Updated: March 12, 2008, 9:22 PM ET
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DENVER -- Ted Sundquist is no longer the Denver Broncos' general manager.

In a brief statement Wednesday, head coach Mike Shanahan said the organization needed to fresh ideas.

"I am grateful to Ted for all his hard work and efforts on behalf of the Broncos for the past 16 years," Shanahan said. "Now is the time for our organization to move forward and look at new directions. We are prepared to do so, starting with our ongoing draft planning, and along with continuing preparations for our mini-camps and training camp."

Details of Sundquist's departure were not immediately released.

Other members of Broncos' management, including director of player personnel Jim Goodman and assistant general manager Jeff Goodman will have increased roles in football operations, while Joe Ellis, chief operating officer of the Broncos, will perform operational and administrative issues.


Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

booger
03-12-2008, 08:25 PM
Athan new of this weeks ago

Bowser
03-12-2008, 08:26 PM
Athan new of this weeks ago

This is the "BIG NEWS"?

booger
03-12-2008, 08:28 PM
just the tip of the iceberg

BigChiefFan
03-12-2008, 08:30 PM
They have made some dumb ass decisions in recent years.

mikey23545
03-12-2008, 08:39 PM
<b>Shanahan, nibbling on a giant piece of cheese, said "I am grateful to Ted for all his hard work and efforts on behalf of the Broncos for the past 16 years, and for taking it up the ass so I don't have to."</b>

stlchiefs
03-12-2008, 08:40 PM
Wow, the Head Coach announcing the GM was leaving. Shany really does steer the ship around there.

Count Zarth
03-12-2008, 08:40 PM
Pass that buck, Shanny.

Count Zarth
03-12-2008, 08:42 PM
Athan new of this weeks ago

This is absolutely unfair. We do not cover the Denver Broncos unless it relates to the Kansas City Chiefs.

Count Zarth
03-12-2008, 08:45 PM
Can you imagine this EVER happening in Kansas City?


HEAVEN -- Carl Peterson is no longer the Kansas City Chiefs' general manager.

In a brief statement Wednesday, head coach Herm Edwards said the organization needed to fresh ideas.

"I am grateful to Carl for all his hard work and efforts on behalf of the Chiefs for the past 86 years," Edwards said. "Now is the time for our organization to move forward and look at new directions. We are prepared to do so, starting with our ongoing draft planning, and along with continuing preparations for our mini-camps and training camp."

Details of Peterson's departure were not immediately released.

Other members of Chiefs' management, including director of player personnel Bill Kuharich and assistant general manager Denny Thum will have increased roles in football operations.

booger
03-12-2008, 08:46 PM
life is not fair grasshopper

Bowser
03-12-2008, 08:49 PM
Can you imagine this EVER happening in Kansas City?

No. Carl would hit the self destruct button in his office and demolish the place before that would ever happen.

CoMoChief
03-12-2008, 09:05 PM
No. Carl would hit the self destruct button in his office and demolish the place before that would ever happen.

ROFL

raybec 4
03-12-2008, 09:26 PM
Can you imagine this EVER happening in Kansas City?

Not a chance, King Carl has the same power over the Hunt family as that rat faced f*ck stick has over Pat Bolen. Carl will tell Clark to put on his purple nikes drink the magic punch and wait for the mothership, and that will buy him 10 more years and no playoff wins.

DaneMcCloud
03-13-2008, 12:04 AM
Wow, the Head Coach announcing the GM was leaving. Shany really does steer the ship around there.

He's been the VP of the Broncos for years.

HE hires the GM, not the other way around.

stlchiefs
03-13-2008, 12:35 AM
He's been the VP of the Broncos for years.

HE hires the GM, not the other way around.

hmm. I didn't realize that. Well since that's the case it makes sense, but still creates a strange setup leading to interesting circumstances such as a head coach firing his gm. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy Shanahan a hand puppet?

Direckshun
03-13-2008, 01:00 AM
Wow, is it just me or all AFC West teams run by unbearable dictators?

Only so long before AJ Smith flames out, only to continue manhandling the team for a decade too long.

ClevelandBronco
03-13-2008, 01:28 AM
I know you guys don't trust your head coach and you hate your GM.

Seriously, what's the option you guys want to see in Denver? We trade our first and our third for Carl? We take on some pathetic HC candidate who didn't get your job because Herm Edwards was a better choice?

Good grief.

Direckshun
03-13-2008, 01:45 AM
Well I personally can't believe you guys didn't stay with Bates longer at DC. The guy has a hell of a track record to have just abandoned him after one year.

ClevelandBronco
03-13-2008, 02:15 AM
Well I personally can't believe you guys didn't stay with Bates longer at DC. The guy has a hell of a track record to have just abandoned him after one year.

On Bates's credentials, I'd agree. There must have been some fundamental misunderstanding. On the other hand, Shanny's staying. Everything flows from that fact.

KCChiefsMan
03-13-2008, 02:37 AM
this guy gets fired after a few mediocre seasons, 2 straight Superbowl wins. Why the f*ck is Carl still here? Zero playoff wins in the past 15 years. I'm not sure if this organization even cares about winning.

ct
03-13-2008, 08:21 AM
I guess they didn't like his picks in the CP mock draft either...

bkkcoh
03-13-2008, 08:25 AM
this guy gets fired after a few mediocre seasons, 2 straight Superbowl wins. Why the f*ck is Carl still here? Zero playoff wins in the past 15 years. I'm not sure if this organization even cares about winning.

The Broncos only gave him 16 years, and like was mentioned, he won 2 SB's in the process.

:cuss::doh!:

Is Clark watching and listening? Doubt it!!!!!!!!!

Reerun_KC
03-13-2008, 08:27 AM
I know you guys don't trust your head coach and you hate your GM.

Seriously, what's the option you guys want to see in Denver? We trade our first and our third for Carl? We take on some pathetic HC candidate who didn't get your job because Herm Edwards was a better choice?

Good grief.
QFMFT

Reerun_KC
03-13-2008, 08:29 AM
Not a chance, King Carl has the same power over the Hunt family as that rat faced f*ck stick has over Pat Bolen. Carl will tell Clark to put on his purple nikes drink the magic punch and wait for the mothership, and that will buy him 10 more years and no playoff wins.
Pretty much, Starting to look like the ownership is a lame duck in KC... would like to see if Clark has a spine or not, but from the looks of it, Carl owns him and he is drinking Herm red kool-aid as fast as herm can make it...

Brock
03-13-2008, 08:30 AM
Did he not follow Shanahan's orders or something?

orange
03-13-2008, 09:50 AM
this guy gets fired after a few mediocre seasons, 2 straight Superbowl wins. Why the f*ck is Carl still here? Zero playoff wins in the past 15 years. I'm not sure if this organization even cares about winning.

Not exactly. Sundquist was with the Broncos for 16 years, but he was the GM only since 2001. He started out as a scout.

I don't remember who the GM was during the SB years.

Just FYI.

orange
03-13-2008, 09:52 AM
Did he not follow Shanahan's orders or something?

The Broncos have definitely taken a different approach towards free-agency this year. I don't think they were happy with Sundquist's personnel moves from a character standpoint. They've been kind of edging him out for a couple months.

vailpass
03-13-2008, 10:16 AM
Interesting. Shanny better start putting up some wins, he doesn't have many more personnel moves he can make.

beach tribe
03-13-2008, 10:18 AM
It would be nice to see Carl, and Shanny fired next off-season. Talk about clean slate.

vailpass
03-13-2008, 10:40 AM
It would be nice to see Carl, and Shanny fired next off-season. Talk about clean slate.

They will probably both have surprisngly good seasons this year and secure their positions for life or longer.

Bowser
03-13-2008, 10:43 AM
Rat would have to nosedive the '08 season into the toilet to get fired, and Carl has a gypsy curse on the Hunts, preventing them from firing him.

vailpass
03-13-2008, 10:54 AM
In case anyone here cares about the backstory....Sundquist learned that when you mess with the bull you get the horns.

Writing on the wall for fall guyBy Mark Kiszla
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 03/13/2008 09:43:51 AM MDT


After 16 years of playing the good soldier for the Broncos, general manager Ted Sundquist was shown the door Wednesday, and told to march. It was a crummy way to say goodbye to a loyal man.

But he had to go.

Coach Mike Shanahan required a scapegoat for yet another disappointing football season. Sundquist, a 45-year-old graduate of the Air Force Academy who had diligently worked his way up from the bottom at Broncos headquarters, was sick and tired of being the fall guy. Their long uneasy relationship crumbled under the weight of defeat.

Although Sundquist was dumped at the dinner hour and his departure was announced in an impersonal written statement of 61 cold, terse words by Shanahan, this was a bad ending waiting to happen and months in the making.

As general manager of a chronically underachieving team plagued by bad personnel decisions that included ballyhooed acquisitions from receiver Javon Walker to defensive tackle Sam Adams that went wrong, Sundquist constantly found himself in the no-win position of holding scant power while taking much of the blame.

Those frustrations came spilling out in an electronic message Sund- quist sent me Dec. 3, as yet another unsatisfying Broncos season unraveled.

"I'm personally willing to stand up for the decisions that have been made, but understand I don't necessarily agree with them. The military taught me a lot about how to handle situations like that," Sundquist wrote, after the Broncos blew a road game to lowly Oakland that dropped their record to 5-7.

Within 24 hours of the discouraging defeat, Sundquist fired off a lengthy, unsolicited e-mail. He shared the unenviable challenges of working for a football franchise ruled at the top by Shanahan, and the criticism always rolled downhill, falling on the head of a quarterback, defensive coordinator or general manager.

Although Sundquist made the predictable statements about being "disappointed" and "surprised" during interviews immediately after his dismissal, he clearly was aware of a major disconnect between himself and Shanahan regarding the way the Broncos conducted business.

"The question isn't whether Mike is getting the right advice, as much as how it is being used. I think the assumption that our personnel department has somehow let him down and that Denver needs to hire a 'guru' to get things right is a bit off," Sundquist had informed me in December.

"I do enjoy my job and understand its responsibilities. This position might be as difficult as there is in the NFL. I'm also extremely confident that if I were to be supplanted as the GM by some 'guru' that I would land on my feet fairly well and probably in an even larger capacity. That's not meant as arrogant, it's just knowing the business."

Long disappointed about being the invisible man on an NFL organizational chart, Sundquist applied for front-office jobs in Chicago and Seattle during recent years, only to be eliminated from consideration late in the interview process.

He penned a blog for the team's website and made a weekly appearance on a local television station during the season to increase his profile in a city of Broncomaniacs, many of whom always assumed Shanahan was the de facto general manager.

With Denver dealing with frequent changes in recent years at defensive coordinator, the difficult challenge for Sundquist was to provide players for a unit that lacked the continuity any defense requires to establish a strong identity.

The expensive risk taken on running back Travis Henry, whose injury-plagued season became filled with controversial court revelations he had fathered nine children from nine women, was a roll of the dice because the Broncos switched from swift tailbacks such as Clinton Portis favored by former offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak to a powerful, move-the-chains runner more befitting of Shanahan's style.

A general manager should be able to shape a football team as he envisions. Sundquist filled orders like a stock clerk. It was a thankless task doomed to failure.

When Sundquist openly questioned how much ability veteran defender John Lynch had lost during an interview with The Denver Post late in the season, Lynch was incensed and the Pro Bowl safety made his displeasure known at Dove Valley. The plug immediately was pulled on Sundquist's TV appearances, and his long career with the Broncos began fading to black.

Late last month, Lynch agreed to a new contract with the Broncos.

On his way home to supper Wednesday evening, Sundquist was summoned to Shanahan's office and fired.

Mark Kiszla: 303-954-1053 or mkiszla@denverpost.com

Cochise
03-13-2008, 10:57 AM
WPI would have to hold a candlelight vigil if Carl were on his way out... last chance for fluffing

Count Zarth
03-13-2008, 10:58 AM
Shanny is an arrogant prick. God I ****ing hate him.

Count Zarth
03-13-2008, 10:59 AM
WPI would have to hold a candlelight vigil if Carl were on his way out... last chance for fluffing

I bet Carl loved the cover of our last magazine

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7507/kangv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

vailpass
03-13-2008, 11:00 AM
Shanny is an arrogant prick. God I ****ing hate him.

Arrogance and NFL head coach go together much more often than not.

orange
03-13-2008, 11:29 AM
"... because the Broncos switched from swift tailbacks such as Clinton Portis favored by former offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak to a powerful, move-the-chains runner more befitting of Shanahan's style."

Ron Dayne is like Portis?

Kiszla - :shake:

Mile High Mania
03-13-2008, 01:03 PM
I think it's funny that so many of you get riled up about this type of thing.

It's Bowlen's team, I am just a fan... I can't control any of it. If the thought is that Shanahan is best to make the call around there, then so be it. I don't know what all goes on behind the scenes. I have no idea if Ted is worth a damn or not.

Rooster
03-13-2008, 01:26 PM
Shanny has a lot of Al Davis qualities. As a Chiefs fan that's great news. :)

mfkrush
03-13-2008, 01:28 PM
Shanny is an arrogant prick. God I ****ing hate him.

Yeah Shanahan is complete retard. I am so happy Devin Hester turned his colon inside out when we shitted all over Milehigh stadium.

Bowser
03-13-2008, 01:51 PM
Shat.

orange
03-13-2008, 02:04 PM
Yeah Shanahan is complete retard. I am so happy Devin Hester turned his colon inside out when we shitted all over Milehigh stadium.

In Chicago? ROFL