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Direckshun
03-13-2008, 10:13 PM
Can you say "doomed"?

There should be a curse of the Chuck.

Rausch
03-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Barkley is clearly the gatekeeper of all wisdom.

Who'd argue?...

Bowser
03-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Countdown to ROY getting in here in berating you......

BWillie
03-13-2008, 10:22 PM
That Kim Yong IL is crazy. He gonna blow up the whole damn world. it's just turrrible. turrible turrible turrible.

Truth be aside..Chuck is a huge gambling man. He has correctly bet a shitload on the last eight Superbowls and won six of eight. He was even predicting NY to win the last one until he changed his pick right before the game.... you know that probably happens when you see the stat sheet of a 19-0 team

Extra Point
03-13-2008, 10:25 PM
I don't care which college wins. I'd like to see Bill Self left hook Roy Williams.

POND_OF_RED
03-13-2008, 10:38 PM
He obviously hasn't had much time to watch college basketball.

KCChiefsMan
03-13-2008, 10:43 PM
I'd like to agree with him, but our Hinrich, Collison & Gooden teams were better. We don't seem to have any leaders on the floor and match that with poor in game coaching from Bill Self, I'd be surprised if we make it past the Sweet 16 this year. I hope I'm wrong

BWillie
03-14-2008, 12:41 AM
I'd like to agree with him, but our Hinrich, Collison & Gooden teams were better. We don't seem to have any leaders on the floor and match that with poor in game coaching from Bill Self, I'd be surprised if we make it past the Sweet 16 this year. I hope I'm wrong

Do you remember how many games that Hinrich, Collison, and Gooden team lost?

I think you are selling this team short. I think what you mean by "leader" you are confusing with a "go to guy". This team doesn't need a go to guy, or one leader. You can have many leaders. Look at Florida. Back to back with nobody on their team that was really that good. They were just one cohesive unit.

The only weakness I see with our team is Brandon Rush's 10% field goal percentage inside of the 3 point arc.

KCChiefsMan
03-14-2008, 01:18 AM
Do you remember how many games that Hinrich, Collison, and Gooden team lost?

I think you are selling this team short. I think what you mean by "leader" you are confusing with a "go to guy". This team doesn't need a go to guy, or one leader. You can have many leaders. Look at Florida. Back to back with nobody on their team that was really that good. They were just one cohesive unit.

The only weakness I see with our team is Brandon Rush's 10% field goal percentage inside of the 3 point arc.

I know we have a good team and all and that we are playing unselfish basketball. But I just am not as confident as in recent years. Maybe I'm just preparing myself not to get my hopes up and not trying to be too much of a homer :doh!:

CoMoChief
03-14-2008, 01:19 AM
Barkley is clearly the gatekeeper of all wisdom.

Who'd argue?...

I really can't think of anyone who could possibly disagree with Chuck about anything.

Ari Chi3fs
03-14-2008, 01:24 AM
Charles also said that Sasha Kaun is one of the better big men in College basketball and that he has a lot of upside potential... probably play in the NBA 7-10 years. Who can argue with Chuck?

CoMoChief
03-14-2008, 01:54 AM
Charles also said that Sasha Kaun is one of the better big men in College basketball and that he has a lot of upside potential... probably play in the NBA 7-10 years. Who can argue with Chuck?

wrong.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
03-14-2008, 06:26 AM
I'd like to agree with him, but our Hinrich, Collison & Gooden teams were better. We don't seem to have any leaders on the floor and match that with poor in game coaching from Bill Self, I'd be surprised if we make it past the Sweet 16 this year. I hope I'm wrong

:rolleyes:

kepp
03-14-2008, 06:37 AM
I don't care which college wins. I'd like to see Bill Self left hook Roy Williams.

Self won't make it to the same round of the tourney much less the same court as Roy.

Buehler445
03-14-2008, 06:40 AM
I know we have a good team and all and that we are playing unselfish basketball. But I just am not as confident as in recent years. Maybe I'm just preparing myself not to get my hopes up and not trying to be too much of a homer :doh!:

I'm the same way. I don't think this team is going to pull it all together and win the damn thing. Are they capable? Yes. Absolutely. But what I see as their biggest downside is their lack of intensity at times. If they play like they did against K-State the second time, they are unstoppable. But it shouldn't take getting beaten by a subpar rival, who happens to have never won in their own house with a loudmouthed ****stain to get a team motivated. I wanted to see them drive EVERY team they played into the dirt like they did Texas Tech. But they rarely did.

Maybe we'll all be surprised, but even though they are rediculously talented and unselfish, I think they are not winning it...Unfortunately.

That being said.... GO HAWKS :KU:

Reerun_KC
03-14-2008, 07:03 AM
Self won't make it to the same round of the tourney much less the same court as Roy.
IF that is the case then MU and Mike Anderson have zero hope at ever accomplishing anything....

Reerun_KC
03-14-2008, 07:04 AM
I'm the same way. I don't think this team is going to pull it all together and win the damn thing. Are they capable? Yes. Absolutely. But what I see as their biggest downside is their lack of intensity at times. If they play like they did against K-State the second time, they are unstoppable. But it shouldn't take getting beaten by a subpar rival, who happens to have never won in their own house with a loudmouthed ****stain to get a team motivated. I wanted to see them drive EVERY team they played into the dirt like they did Texas Tech. But they rarely did.

Maybe we'll all be surprised, but even though they are rediculously talented and unselfish, I think they are not winning it...Unfortunately.

That being said.... GO HAWKS :KU:

QFT, I agree JB, i dont think they are going to either...

kepp
03-14-2008, 07:08 AM
IF that is the case then MU and Mike Anderson have zero hope at ever accomplishing anything....

Probably not. My hopes aren't too high for the MA regime.

DaKCMan AP
03-14-2008, 07:25 AM
Look at Florida. Back to back with nobody on their team that was really that good. They were just one cohesive unit.


You can't be serious. ROFL

ArrowheadHawk
03-14-2008, 07:26 AM
Self won't make it to the same round of the tourney much less the same court as Roy.
Closet Tarhole?

Can't wait to shove this quote back down your throat.

ROYC75
03-14-2008, 07:29 AM
Countdown to ROY getting in here in berating you......

:spock: What, is this towards me or Coach Roy ?

FTR, who cares what Barkley says or does ?

Lzen
03-14-2008, 07:29 AM
The only weakness I see with our team is Brandon Rush's 10% field goal percentage inside of the 3 point arc.

WTF are you talking about?

StcChief
03-14-2008, 07:35 AM
That being said.... It's Rock Choke time.

ROYC75
03-14-2008, 07:42 AM
Something tells me this team is ready to turn it on ......... Time will tell.

Lzen
03-14-2008, 07:42 AM
I wanted to see them drive EVERY team they played into the dirt like they did Texas Tech. But they rarely did.


And WTF are you talking about? People, please. Let's at least get our facts straight.

Kansas PPG - 82.13
Opponents PPG - 61.16
Avg. margin - 20.97

For comparison...

North Carolina PPG - 89.67 PPG
Opponents PPG - 72.77
Avg. margin - 16.90

ROYC75
03-14-2008, 07:55 AM
And WTF are you talking about? People, please. Let's at least get our facts straight.

Kansas PPG - 82.13
Opponents PPG - 61.16
Avg. margin - 20.97

For comparison...

North Carolina PPG - 89.67 PPG
Opponents PPG - 72.77
Avg. margin - 16.90

Some ( rival ) fans just can't get past the the name K A N S A S on the jersey, some Jayhawk fans expect perfection...... Just the norm.

Baby Lee
03-14-2008, 08:06 AM
I'm bitterly cautious about this team, but man, if the team that showed up Senior night shows up in the tournament. Fock!!!

Al Bundy
03-14-2008, 08:11 AM
You can't be serious. ROFL

I sometimes wonder if some of these folks know anything about college basketball?

BWillie
03-14-2008, 09:40 AM
WTF are you talking about?

You are seriously don't notice the 2-3 airballs BRUSH throws up with that ugly floater in the lane, or that he almost never hits that 15 foot pull up jump shot? He simply shouldn't take those shots because he doesn't really make them ever. For a one of the leading scorers on Kansas, I don't think I've ever seen someone shoot so low from the field. He's shooting like 41%

Lzen
03-14-2008, 10:12 AM
You are seriously don't notice the 2-3 airballs BRUSH throws up with that ugly floater in the lane, or that he almost never hits that 15 foot pull up jump shot? He simply shouldn't take those shots because he doesn't really make them ever. For a one of the leading scorers on Kansas, I don't think I've ever seen someone shoot so low from the field. He's shooting like 41%

Okay, you were exaggerating(big time) with the 10% comment. Rush can shoot hit those shorter jumpers. I can think of quite a few of those that he has made.

Anyong Bluth
03-14-2008, 10:12 AM
If KU plays like they did on Senior Night, what team beats them- even with their A game?

dj56dt58
03-14-2008, 11:25 AM
If KU plays like they did on Senior Night, what team beats them- even with their A game?

UNC

Alphaman
03-14-2008, 11:33 AM
MU fan here. I agree with Barkley, Kansas is the best college team. I don't think any other team has the balance (inside, outside, defense, transition, rebounding) that KU has.

Does that mean they'll win it all? Not at all. Teams like Memphis, North Carolina, UCLA, Tennessee and even Texas have a 50-50 chance of beating KU.

KU's got a great opportunity to get the Final Four and win it all. I think the 5 other teams I've mentioned have that as well. All 6 also have the potential of being upset along the way. March Madness is Awesome.

DenverDanChiefsFan
03-14-2008, 11:35 AM
UNCI would take KUs A game against anyone elses.

Can they put the run of A games together in the tournament is another question.

vailpass
03-14-2008, 11:43 AM
That is what is so great about NCAA hoops: the best team is decided by a tournamnet. All questions are answered by the teams on the floor and when it is said and done there is one clear winner.
No polls, no split titles, no controversy.
I love it.

alnorth
03-14-2008, 11:43 AM
I'd like to agree with him, but our Hinrich, Collison & Gooden teams were better. We don't seem to have any leaders on the floor and match that with poor in game coaching from Bill Self, I'd be surprised if we make it past the Sweet 16 this year. I hope I'm wrong

He didnt say it was the best team in KU's history, he said this Kansas team was the best he'd seen this year.

POND_OF_RED
03-14-2008, 12:22 PM
And WTF are you talking about? People, please. Let's at least get our facts straight.

Kansas PPG - 82.13
Opponents PPG - 61.16
Avg. margin - 20.97

For comparison...

North Carolina PPG - 89.67 PPG
Opponents PPG - 72.77
Avg. margin - 16.90
Cool Stat and all but letís remember UNC has the #4 SOS and Kansas is at #82 meaning they had much more of an opportunity to run their weaker opponents into the ground. Break it down against potential tournament teams and itís a lot more even. I do not see how Kansas schedule has prepared them for March at all. Maybe they can finally get that win against a top 25 team in the Big 12 tournament to prove they actually deserve to be a 1 or 2 seed.

Kansas:
Arizona W 76-72
USC(Lock) W 59-55
Oklahoma(Lock)W 85-55
K-State L 75-84
Baylor W 100-90
Texas (Lock) L 69-72
K-State W 88-74
A&M W 72-55
624-557
78 PPG
69.63 Opponents PPG
8.375 PPG Margin in 8 games

UNC:
Davidson(Lock) W 72-68
BYU(Lock) W 73-63
Ohio State W 66-55
Kentucky W 86-77
Clemson(Lock)W 90-88
Maryland L 80-82
Miami (Lock)W 98-82
Florida State W 84-73
Duke(Lock) L 78-89
Clemson (Lock)W 103-93
Virginia Tech W 92-53
Florida State W 90-77
Duke(Lock) W 76-68
1078-968
77 PPG
69.14 Opponents PPG
8.462 PPG Margin in 14 games

Lzen
03-14-2008, 02:37 PM
Cool Stat and all but letís remember UNC has the #4 SOS and Kansas is at #82 meaning they had much more of an opportunity to run their weaker opponents into the ground. Break it down against potential tournament teams and itís a lot more even. I do not see how Kansas schedule has prepared them for March at all. Maybe they can finally get that win against a top 25 team in the Big 12 tournament to prove they actually deserve to be a 1 or 2 seed.

Kansas:
Arizona W 76-72
USC(Lock) W 59-55
Oklahoma(Lock)W 85-55
K-State L 75-84
Baylor W 100-90
Texas (Lock) L 69-72
K-State W 88-74
A&M W 72-55
624-557
78 PPG
69.63 Opponents PPG
8.375 PPG Margin in 8 games

UNC:
Davidson(Lock) W 72-68
BYU(Lock) W 73-63
Ohio State W 66-55
Kentucky W 86-77
Clemson(Lock)W 90-88
Maryland L 80-82
Miami (Lock)W 98-82
Florida State W 84-73
Duke(Lock) L 78-89
Clemson (Lock)W 103-93
Virginia Tech W 92-53
Florida State W 90-77
Duke(Lock) W 76-68
1078-968
77 PPG
69.14 Opponents PPG
8.462 PPG Margin in 14 games

That's a good breakdown. But one thing. KU did not have the #82 SOS. According to RPI, they were #60. Still not great by any means. Hey, who knew when they scheduled teams like Arizona, Boston College, Georgia Tech (most months to years in advance) that those teams would be down this year? It's common for teams to lose games on the road more than at home. That's especially true for an incredible college atmosphere like Allen Fieldhouse.

Is it KU's fault that they didn't have a game against a top 25 team at home? How many chances did KU have against top 25 teams? IMO, if you're gonna count the top 25 loss to KSU, then you also have to count the top 25 win at AF vs KSU. All that said, anyone with at least half a brain that has seen KU play this year knows that they deserve a #1 or #2 seed.

Now if they go out and lay an egg in the B12 tourney, all bets are off. I think for better comparison, you need to look at top 100 RPI teams. I mean, hey, there are 340 teams. KU is 12-3 vs RPI top 100.

POND_OF_RED
03-14-2008, 03:31 PM
Now if they go out and lay an egg in the B12 tourney, all bets are off. I think for better comparison, you need to look at top 100 RPI teams. I mean, hey, there are 340 teams. KU is 12-3 vs RPI top 100.
UNC is 19-2. Kansas is good don't get me wrong. They are just untested IMO. No one really knows how good this team really is because the only oppurtunities they have had to prove this they have failed (@Tex and @K-State). I am not saying they meant to have such a weak schedule, but they have had one. Meaning to sit here and say KU is the best team in college basketball this year would be reaching. They are good, but there are a few teams that have proven they can win big games that are ranked above them. All I am saying is Kansas record is good and all but they still have yet to prove ANYTHING this year besides the fact that they can beat shitty teams at home. Congratulations!

the Talking Can
03-14-2008, 04:19 PM
I would take KUs A game against anyone elses.

Can they put the run of A games together in the tournament is another question.

this is exactly right...thiis is the question


the X-factor this year is Collins...when healthy he is that "go-to" guy we've been missing, imo...he has a confidence in his game, almost an arrogance, that we have lacked for years....

I will be devastated if this squad can't make the Final 4...they have everything...

Ari Chi3fs
03-14-2008, 04:26 PM
This weekend and next weekend will be pleasurable for us Jayhawks fans... its the weekend after that, that normally pisses us off.

KCChiefsMan
04-08-2008, 11:58 PM
Sir Charles knew what he was talking about!

BWillie
04-09-2008, 12:57 AM
Sir Charles knew what he was talking about!

He may sound like a jagoff, but he really knows what he's talking about. Out of celebs, they say he is one of the most successful sports betters in the last five years. He predicted 4/5 super bowl correctly with the exception of this year. He had the Giants predicted to win the last one until about 2 hours before kickoff and he decided to change his 100K or so wager.

Direckshun
04-09-2008, 01:05 AM
Gotta hand it to the Chuckster.

the Talking Can
04-09-2008, 06:10 AM
UNC

um, no....

Mr. Kotter
04-09-2008, 07:14 AM
Sir Charles knew what he was talking about!

RCJHGKU..... :thumb:

Reerun_KC
04-09-2008, 07:54 AM
UNC
:clap:

Good call....

Reerun_KC
04-09-2008, 07:55 AM
wrong.
:clap:

Another good call.. Without Sasha, KU doesnt with the NC this year..

Agian good call...

Reerun_KC
04-09-2008, 07:56 AM
Self won't make it to the same round of the tourney much less the same court as Roy.
:clap:

Reerun_KC
04-09-2008, 07:57 AM
QFT, I agree JB, i dont think they are going to either...


Nice call dumbass.. Heres to you Reerun :doh!:

Lzen
04-09-2008, 08:01 AM
He obviously hasn't had much time to watch college basketball.

:LOL:

Self won't make it to the same round of the tourney much less the same court as Roy.
ROFL

That being said.... It's Rock Choke time.

:rolleyes::spock::doh!:ROFL You can keep hoping that will happen until it's true, but not this season.

Cool Stat and all but letís remember UNC has the #4 SOS and Kansas is at #82 meaning they had much more of an opportunity to run their weaker opponents into the ground. Break it down against potential tournament teams and itís a lot more even. I do not see how Kansas schedule has prepared them for March at all. Maybe they can finally get that win against a top 25 team in the Big 12 tournament to prove they actually deserve to be a 1 or 2 seed.


Wrong again.


MU fan here. I agree with Barkley, Kansas is the best college team. I don't think any other team has the balance (inside, outside, defense, transition, rebounding) that KU has.

Does that mean they'll win it all? Not at all. Teams like Memphis, North Carolina, UCLA, Tennessee and even Texas have a 50-50 chance of beating KU.

KU's got a great opportunity to get the Final Four and win it all. I think the 5 other teams I've mentioned have that as well. All 6 also have the potential of being upset along the way. March Madness is Awesome.

I guess this post proves that at least there are some reasonable MU fans. Even if they are few and far between.

Lzen
04-09-2008, 08:03 AM
:clap:

Another good call.. Without Sasha, KU doesn't win the NC this year..

Again good call...

QFT (w/spelling corrections)

You see that, CoMochief? Here, let me say it again.

Without Sasha, KU doesn't win the NC this year.

Reerun_KC
04-09-2008, 08:11 AM
QFT (w/spelling corrections)
:clap:

Guess I need firefox again, I can't spell for sh*t 90% of the time....

crazycoffey
04-09-2008, 08:13 AM
good team, good season, congrats KansASS fans...

Reerun_KC
04-09-2008, 08:16 AM
good team, good season, congrats KansASS fans...

STFU CC

Skip Towne
04-09-2008, 08:34 AM
We need to get rid of that Chalmers guy. Man, he sucks.

crazycoffey
04-09-2008, 09:15 AM
STFU CC


hey, I'm not hating - I just won 200 dollars because of them....
but the hate is creaping back.

ROYC75
04-09-2008, 09:15 AM
Charles in charge, he knew more than our rivals knew ....... go figure ? Who is smarter, Charles or our rival fans ? One picks by experence, ability the other out of pure hatered or for personal reasons.

Reerun_KC
04-09-2008, 09:16 AM
hey, I'm not hating - I just won 200 dollars because of them....
but the hate is creaping back
all is right with the world!

Welcome back!

crazycoffey
04-09-2008, 09:20 AM
hey, I'm not hating - I just won 200 dollars because of them....
but the hate is creaping back
all is right with the world!

Welcome back!


FU KU!

boogblaster
04-09-2008, 09:26 AM
Charles knows BB... KU Baby .....

Skip Towne
04-09-2008, 09:44 AM
[quote=Reerun_KC;4675054]


FU KU!

You're a creap

crazycoffey
04-09-2008, 10:14 AM
You're a creap

coming from you that means nothing....

Reerun_KC
04-09-2008, 10:34 AM
coming from you that means nothing....
ROFL

I guess we should of put a little bet on the hawks CC?

POND_OF_RED
04-09-2008, 03:05 PM
:LOL:
http://www.republicanvoices.org/eating_crow.jpg

Rain Man
04-09-2008, 03:16 PM
I don't follow college basketball. Was Kansas a favorite to win the championship, or were they just deemed one of a batch of good teams, or were they a cinderella?

Skip Towne
04-09-2008, 03:27 PM
I don't follow college basketball. Was Kansas a favorite to win the championship, or were they just deemed one of a batch of good teams, or were they a cinderella?

KU was ranked top 5 all year. They were seeded as the 4th best team in a 65 member field.

jidar
04-09-2008, 03:40 PM
Barkely was far from the only media person to pick KS. Granted the popular choice was Memphis most of the year, but there were folks on the KS bandwagon.

What's burning my ass is even now that we've won it all the national media stories still spend all their time talking about Memphis. *sigh*

ChiefsFanatic
04-09-2008, 04:03 PM
Barkely was far from the only media person to pick KS. Granted the popular choice was Memphis most of the year, but there were folks on the KS bandwagon.

What's burning my ass is even now that we've won it all the national media stories still spend all their time talking about Memphis. *sigh*

I know. I get sick of hearing about the missed free throws, and how Memphis was really the better team.

I thought making free throws was a part of basketball, and since we only missed one, we were better at that part of the game.

And, did each of those four misses at the end of the game automatically come with 2.5 points for us? It is like the media thinks that every miss down the stretch added points to our score. We still had to go out and make plays and shots.

ROYC75
04-09-2008, 05:28 PM
It doesn't matter, the bias AP media thinks UNC is # 1, I kid you not.

KCChiefsMan
04-09-2008, 06:23 PM
I don't follow college basketball. Was Kansas a favorite to win the championship, or were they just deemed one of a batch of good teams, or were they a cinderella?

Kansas could never be a cinderella