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banyon
03-16-2008, 04:06 PM
CBS 5:00 PM CDT

Will be updated per brackets coming out

East v. Midwest/ South v. West

East (Charlotte, NC)

1. North Carolina
16. Mt. St. Mary's/Coppin St

8. Indiana
9. Arkansas

5. Notre Dame
12. George Mason

13. Winthrop
4. Washington St.

6. Oklahoma
11. St. Joseph's

3. Louisville
14. Boise St.


7. Butler
10. So. Alabama

2. Tennessee
15. American U.


Midwest (Detroit, MI)

1. Kansas
16. Portland St.

8. UNLV
9. Kent St.

5. Clemson
12. Villanova

4. Vanderbilt
13. Siena

6. Southern Cal
11. Kansas State

3. Wisconsin
14. Cal St. Fullerton

7. Gonzaga
10. Davidson

2. Georgetown
15. Maryland- Balt. Co.


West (Phoeniz,AZ)

1. UCLA
16. Mississippi Valley St.

8. BYU
9. Texas A&M

5. Drake
12. W. Kentucky

4. Purdue
13. San Diego

6. Purdue
11. Baylor

3. Xavier
14. Georgia

7. West Virginia
10. Arizona

2. Puke
15. Belmont

South (Houston, TX)

1. Memphis
16. Tex-Arlington

8. Misissippi St.
9. Oregon

5. Michigan St.
12. Temple

4. Pittsburgh
13. Oral Roberts

6. Marquette
11. Kentucky

3. Stanford
14. Cornell


7. Miami (FL)
10. St. Mary's (CA)

2. Texas
15. Austin Peay

banyon
03-16-2008, 04:11 PM
My picks: Baylor Out, KU 1 Seed, TX 2 seed. UNC, MEM, UCLA other 1's. KSU in (maybe 8 seed) A&M (6 seed); Okla (7 seed)

kstater
03-16-2008, 04:14 PM
Yeah if Georgia holds off Arkansas, another bubble team is out.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 04:17 PM
All I want for Christmas is to not have to play another Elite 8 or Sweet 16 road game against a lower seed.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 04:17 PM
I'd be very surprised if the 8 top seeds aren't exactly what they showed during Kansas/Texas.

West
UCLA
Wisconsin

East
UNC
Georgetown

Midwest
Kansas
Tennessee

South
Memphis
Texas

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 04:19 PM
All I want for Christmas is to not have to play another Elite 8 or Sweet 16 road game against a lower seed.

Maybe next year. :(

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 04:21 PM
All I want for Christmas is to not have to play another Elite 8 or Sweet 16 road game against a lower seed.

Hopefully Texas isn't the 2 seed in the Tigers bracket. Memphis has earned the right to play the worst 2 seed.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 04:22 PM
Maybe next year. :(Oh, Memphis fans have known that we'd probably have to play at 2-seed Texas in the Elite Eight for a couple of months, now. It's bullshit, but it won't be surprising.

banyon
03-16-2008, 04:22 PM
All I want for Christmas is to not have to play another Elite 8 or Sweet 16 road game against a lower seed.

I'm betting they make us play Texas in Houston.

(edit: you beat me to it)

BigVE
03-16-2008, 04:22 PM
I'm betting KU will still NOT get a number one seed. I'm hoping for one but think they will get jobbed.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 04:25 PM
I'm betting KU will still NOT get a number one seed. I'm hoping for one but think they will get jobbed.Honestly, it's a pretty tough call between KU and UTK at this point. I think the conference tournaments will ultimately be the tiebreaker, though.

HOLY SHIT, UGA'S GOING TO PULL THIS OFF!

kstater
03-16-2008, 04:28 PM
Georgia getting ready to piss some bubble teams off.

banyon
03-16-2008, 04:29 PM
Georgia getting ready to piss some bubble teams off.

I think they just knocked out Ohio St. or Arizona/Arizona St.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 04:30 PM
I think they just knocked out Ohio St. or Arizona/Arizona St.

Hopefully VTech, their coach is really annoying.

Spott
03-16-2008, 04:31 PM
I don't see anyone beating UNC in the tourney this year.

Mr. Kotter
03-16-2008, 04:33 PM
As for us K-U fans, we've got SIX MORE wins....before we can really be satisfied. Am I wrong? Anything short of a national championship will be at least, something of disappointment.

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Go Jayhawks!

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Guru
03-16-2008, 04:34 PM
I'm betting KU will still NOT get a number one seed. I'm hoping for one but think they will get jobbed.
Would be typical though. Then we will get thrown out West again too.

banyon
03-16-2008, 04:35 PM
I don't see anyone beating UNC in the tourney this year.


Yeah, they're invincible.

:spock:

farmerchief
03-16-2008, 04:37 PM
I don't see anyone beating UNC in the tourney this year.


UNC did not look unbeatable today! If Clemson could have made their freethrows down the stretch, they easily could have won the game. If both KU and Texas play like they did today, either one is entirely capable of beating North Carolina.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 04:37 PM
Wow, Georgia pulled it off. That's crazy.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 04:39 PM
Georgia is bananas. Hopefully VTech, their coach is really annoying.Greenberg was woefully mediocre at USF. Right before he was going to get fired, he bolted to Virginia Tech. Shortly thereafter, conference realignment happened and he'd somehow managed to be an ACC coach. Still makes me laugh every time I think of it.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 04:45 PM
I'm betting KU will still NOT get a number one seed. I'm hoping for one but think they will get jobbed.

All about matchups... I would have taken a #2 in any region last year, but we got a #1 in the West and ended up playing Kentucky (a team about to implode is a dangerous team), SIU, and UCLA.... the last two being some of the most painful basketball I've ever seen. Games that, at the end of BOTH, the first feeling wasn't the excitement of winning or disappointment of losing, but "HOLY SH*T, I'm glad that clusterf*** is over!"

I'll take a 1 or 2 in Detroit or Houston. It'll probably be Tennessee and Kansas, and it doesn't matter which is one and which is two.

Al Bundy
03-16-2008, 04:45 PM
Hell of a run by Georgia.

banyon
03-16-2008, 05:00 PM
GAME ON!

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:00 PM
Ooooh! Oooooh! It's on, it's on!

I love Christmas... er, Selection Sunday.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:02 PM
Fun tidbit I stumbled upon while waiting for this to get underway:

*The Tigers finished with a 2-1 record vs. the RPI top 25 and the 6-1 vs. the RPI top 50. Against the RPI top 100, the Tigers finished a very impressive 15-1. To put those numbers into perspective, the 2006-07 Tigers were just 1-2 vs. the RPI top 25, 1-2 vs. the RPI top 50 and 6-3 vs. the RPI top 100. The current Tigers have a much more impressive resume and are very deserving of at least the second #1 seed in this year’s NCAA Tournament.

South, yay. Guess we get Texas.

banyon
03-16-2008, 05:03 PM
KU

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:03 PM
UNC
Memphis
UCLA
KU

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:04 PM
Now I'm PRAYING for a Memphis-Kansas matchup...

AAAAAGH THERE'S A DEAD GUY ON SCREEN WHAT IS THIS CSI?!!??!

Oh, it's just Billy Packer. Shit, he just gave us props for our tough schedule. I guess I feel guilty now.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:04 PM
UNC at East
KU at Midwest
Memphis at South
UCLA at West.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 05:04 PM
the 4th #1 seed, meaning KU could play UNC in teh National semifinal.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:05 PM
That rump ranger cockblocer Billy Packard still on? I figured that CBS would have the balls to finally ax him, but apparently, they haven't.

What a f**king sham.

Short Leash Hootie
03-16-2008, 05:05 PM
You guys can stop bitching now...

WilliamTheIrish
03-16-2008, 05:05 PM
Get to the important stuff!!! The 9 and 10 seeds.....F'ers..

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:05 PM
No surprises there.

banyon
03-16-2008, 05:06 PM
That rump ranger cockblocer Billy Packard still on? I figured that CBS would have the balls to finally ax him, but apparently, they haven't.

What a f**king sham.

Billy Packard?

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:08 PM
Billy Packard?

I really don't give a shit what's his last name is spelled, since he's a dickweed anyways.

He doesn't think mid-majors has any business to be in the field of 65.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:09 PM
IF KU is the 4th best of the number ones that means they will end up with the BEST of the 2 seeds in thier bracket.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:09 PM
Crap, I wanted to watch the play-in game and see our first-round opponent.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:10 PM
Mt. St Marys/Coppin St as the play in game.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:10 PM
Calling it now:

George Mason to win the East!

Whooooooa, Wazzu as a 4-seed?!

Holy shit, the strongest (resume-wise) #2 vs the strongest #1.

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:11 PM
Wow, Tennessee in UNC's bracket.

Kind of a surprise

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:11 PM
IF KU is the 4th best of the number ones that means they will end up with the BEST of the 2 seeds in thier bracket.

Texas in our bracket????

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:12 PM
Calling it now, Region of Death

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:12 PM
OU a six

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:12 PM
There's OU at the 6th seed in the East.

So far, 2 Big XII teams in.

WilliamTheIrish
03-16-2008, 05:12 PM
OU got a 6?

tk13
03-16-2008, 05:13 PM
Butler got a 7 seed. Brutal possible second round matchup with Tennessee.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:14 PM
Texas in our bracket????

Interesting... if we're the last #1, that means we would get Wisconsin in our bracket in Detroit. But that wouldn't make sense, having Memphis playing in Houston vs. Texas.

So, either Texas is getting shipped out West and we get Wisconsin or KU gets Georgetown or Duke.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:14 PM
Midwest coming up next.

banyon
03-16-2008, 05:15 PM
Butler got a 7 seed. Brutal possible second round matchup with Tennessee.

I was looking at that from the other direction, bad #7 to draw for UT.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:16 PM
Butler got a 7 seed. Brutal possible second round matchup with Tennessee.

Yeah, Tennessee really got screwed for not winning their tournament.

alnorth
03-16-2008, 05:16 PM
Wow. I dont get this, I guess Tennessee really was on the verge of falling to #3 seed. Putting them in the East with UNC means they were the 4th #2. I thought they were a very solid #2, either 1st or 2nd.

lightsout04
03-16-2008, 05:16 PM
Bulter got screwed with a 7th. they were in the top 25 all year they should have got a 4 seed.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:16 PM
Thoughts on the East:

- Butler got ****ING HOSED. 29-3, top 12 team, #17 RPI, and they're a 7-seed?!
- Winthrop will beat Wazzu in the 4-13 game.
- UNC didn't really get any favors with Tennessee as the 2 seed.
- OU seems a bit high at #6.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:17 PM
Duke's gotta be in the Midwest, right?

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:17 PM
I know nothing about UNLV or Kent State.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 05:17 PM
UNLV is not an easy 8 seed.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:18 PM
Oh shit, that could be the first 16th team seed to beat a 1 seed.

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:18 PM
Nova in.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:18 PM
Clemson could be tough.

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:18 PM
Duke not even going to play in Raleigh.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:18 PM
Georgetown a 2nd seed in the Mid West.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:18 PM
I think Georgetown as the 2 seed in our bracket isn't too bad.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 05:18 PM
Georgetown would be no easy task, either.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:19 PM
Duke may very well fall to a #3.

lightsout04
03-16-2008, 05:19 PM
damn georgetown in the midwest. that would be a great game if KU and Georgetown could meet up.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:19 PM
Crap, Wisconsin is very good too.

tk13
03-16-2008, 05:19 PM
I was looking at that from the other direction, bad #7 to draw for UT.
No doubt. Tennessee can't feel too good... they might have to beat Butler, Louisville, and UNC to make the Final Four... three teams who were legitimately in and around the top 10 all season. Not very fair.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:19 PM
Wow. USC in the Midwest.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 05:19 PM
wow, wisconsin and georgetown. shit.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:20 PM
So, either Texas is getting shipped out West and we get Wisconsin or KU gets Georgetown or Duke.

Wow, Wisconsin gets the region advantage as a 3, but get a tough USC in the second round.

That means Memphis is getting screwed again.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:20 PM
Wow. USC in the Midwest.

Damn, aganist K-State...

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:20 PM
Huh?

WilliamTheIrish
03-16-2008, 05:20 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTT

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:21 PM
K-state got a good seeding really.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Only two regions in, and they've already thrown two at-large mid-major conference schools together in the first round. Transparent.

Also, Butler will knock off Tennessee.

lightsout04
03-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Damn the Midwest is going to be tough.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Vandy is going to be a tough Sweet 16 test. Foster and Ogilvy are a great combo.

Not an easy bracket for the beaks.

Mayo vs. Beasley is just sick.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:22 PM
That Mayo v. Beasley is gonna be a very hyped matchup, me thinks.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:23 PM
Vandy is going to be a tough Sweet 16 test. Foster and Ogilvy are a great combo.

Not an easy bracket for the beaks.

Mayo vs. Beasley is just sick.
USC is playing well of late too.

Old Dog
03-16-2008, 05:23 PM
In Omaha, good for KSU

tk13
03-16-2008, 05:23 PM
The top 11 seeds in the Midwest could all make the Elite 8 and I wouldn't be surprised.

Lzen
03-16-2008, 05:23 PM
Wow, KSU got 11 seed. I thought they would be a little higher. Beasley vs Mayo will be the headline. Good luck, Kitties. Perhaps we can have KU/KSU round 3 after all. Of course, that would require both teams getting to the Elite Eight. :)

Short Leash Hootie
03-16-2008, 05:23 PM
I'm happy for K-State...this will be the last year they make the tourney for quite some time...

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Come onnnnnnnn, just give us Duke. PLEASE give us Duke...

banyon
03-16-2008, 05:24 PM
I like K St's chances in that game, but that could be the best 1st round gameon the board.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:25 PM
Little Rock!

TOUGHEST #16 SEED EVER UT-ARLINGTON IS DEFINITELY GOING TO WIN

Holy shit, that's an ideal 8/9 as far as I'm concerned.

tk13
03-16-2008, 05:25 PM
Oregon gets a 9 seed.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 05:25 PM
Memphis has a nice path to the Elite Eight.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:26 PM
GOD ****ING DAMNIT

**** THIS STUPID ****ING COMMITTEE

LET'S GO PEAY

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:26 PM
South 2 seed is Texas...lookout.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:26 PM
Memphis vs. Texas in Houston.

I'd LOVE that bracket if I was a Texas fan... lots of unproven overratedness on the way to play Memphis at home.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 05:27 PM
You've got to be f'n kidding me......Memphis gets screwed again.

Unbelievable.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:27 PM
Texas in the south.

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:27 PM
Texas the 2.

lightsout04
03-16-2008, 05:27 PM
Texas can take Memphis.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:27 PM
What? Kentucky?

banyon
03-16-2008, 05:28 PM
Yup, we got hosed.

Silock
03-16-2008, 05:28 PM
Memphis got fooooked.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 05:28 PM
Texas can take Memphis.

Of course they can, it's a f#cking home game for them.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:29 PM
That means they had the balls to send Duke to the UCLA bracket. Nice.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:30 PM
2006 Elite Eight: #1 Memphis at #2 UCLA in Oakland
2007 Sweet Sixteen: #2 Memphis at #3 Texas A&M in San Antonio
2008 Elite Eight: #1 Memphis at #2 Texas in Houston

****ing assholes.

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:30 PM
Baylor going to get left out. While a 19-13 Oregon gets a 9 seed.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:31 PM
I'm pretty sure they were saying earlier that Texas has more alumni and boosters in the Houston area than any other part of the state. Cool for them.

CoMoChief
03-16-2008, 05:32 PM
WTF Kentucky?!?!!?

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 05:32 PM
2006 Elite Eight: #1 Memphis at #2 UCLA in Oakland
2007 Sweet Sixteen: #2 Memphis at #3 Texas A&M in San Antonio
2008 Elite Eight: #1 Memphis at #2 Texas in Houston

****ing assholes.

Unbelievable that they do that to a team that loss ONE f'n game all year.

Someone on the committee hates Calipari.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:33 PM
Texas aTm as 9th in the west.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:33 PM
Baylor going to get left out. While a 19-13 Oregon gets a 9 seed.


Baylor played very good for 2/3 of the season and probably played themselves OUT of the tourney in the last 1/3 of the season...the same thing K-state did but since KSU has Beasely they get the nod.

Old Dog
03-16-2008, 05:35 PM
6 in for Big XII.......good deal

banyon
03-16-2008, 05:35 PM
WOW Baylor!

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:35 PM
Baylor in.

Old Dog
03-16-2008, 05:36 PM
Arizona a 10.....BS

DJJasonp
03-16-2008, 05:36 PM
Baylor in...ASU out.

The NCAA loves to fellate Arizona.

ASU beats Arizona twice....with similar profile....and is out.

bummer for them.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:36 PM
Good for Baylor...now they have to prove they deserved it.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 05:36 PM
Big XII gets 6.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 05:36 PM
Can someone explain why Arizona deserves a bid?

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:37 PM
Baylor played very good for 2/3 of the season and probably played themselves OUT of the tourney in the last 1/3 of the season...the same thing K-state did but since KSU has Beasely they get the nod.

Nice....

They disagree with your comments.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:37 PM
Can someone explain why Arizona deserves a bid?

That's what I was wondering....

Old Dog
03-16-2008, 05:37 PM
West Virginia is seeded a bit high IMO as well

Lzen
03-16-2008, 05:38 PM
Wow, Big 12 gets half the conference in this year. Says a lot about the strength of our conference this year.

On the the subject, how did the SEC get 6 in? I didn't think they were that good this year.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:38 PM
Dayton got hosed over Arizona or Kentucky IMHO.

banyon
03-16-2008, 05:38 PM
Texas aTm as 9th in the west.

That's kind of low for them I think. They might give UCLA a better game than people think after they thrash BYU.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 05:38 PM
Jankovitch and Illinois State got Jobbed.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:39 PM
Nice....

They disagree with your comments.
It happens occasionally.

Short Leash Hootie
03-16-2008, 05:39 PM
South is by far the easiest bracket IMO

Short Leash Hootie
03-16-2008, 05:40 PM
Jankovitch and Illinois State got Jobbed.

Blah.

I go to ISU and could careless...they f*cked themselves by playing so poorly in their championship game.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:41 PM
South is by far the easiest bracket IMOOutside of the ****ING ROAD GAME, I love it.

WilliamTheIrish
03-16-2008, 05:41 PM
Jankovitch and Illinois State got Jobbed.

I don't feel once ounce of sorrow.

Short Leash Hootie
03-16-2008, 05:42 PM
I guess the West is pretty easy, too...South and West are the winners.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 05:45 PM
Im sooo picking Tejas to go to the Final Four. **** Memphis.

Old Dog
03-16-2008, 05:46 PM
For the Memphis folks, who SHOULD have been the #2 in the South?

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:48 PM
SO, where can I get a PRINTABLE bracket?

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:48 PM
I like it. Wisconsin is a surprise, but they have a tough road with the winner of USC/KSU and then a potential matchup with Georgetown.

Vanderbilt can shoot, Clemson isn't much more than a pain in the ass and could lose to Villanova. I have no idea about UNLV or Kent State, so I guess I'll have to watch Bracketology.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:48 PM
SO, where can I get a PRINTABLE bracket?

Never mind: http://sportsline.com/collegebasketball/mayhem/brackets/printable_men

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:49 PM
For the Memphis folks, who SHOULD have been the #2 in the South?Duke.

#1 Memphis vs. #2 Duke in Houston
#1 UCLA vs. #2 Texas in Phoenix

Old Dog
03-16-2008, 05:49 PM
SO, where can I get a PRINTABLE bracket?

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/mayhem/brackets/printable_men

KCChiefsMan
03-16-2008, 05:51 PM
I really like KU's bracket. If we can't go far in this one.........I'll be pissed, I'll just put it that way. If that's how it works out, which it probably will.

So who is everyone's sleeper picks? Cinderella's??

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:51 PM
Im sooo picking Tejas to go to the Final Four. **** Memphis.Yes. How dare we go 33-1 with an RPI of #3, SOS of #27, and the best non-conference SOS in the country.

Coach
03-16-2008, 05:52 PM
I still haven't heard a reasonable explaination that Arizona is in.....

I'm still waiting....

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:53 PM
Duke.

#1 Memphis vs. #2 Duke in Houston
#1 UCLA vs. #2 Texas in Phoenix

I agree, and the only thing Memphis could have done to stay out of the 4th #1 seed was to beat #2 Tennessee and go undefeated; and that's ridiculous.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:54 PM
I agree, and the only thing Memphis could have done to stay out of the 4th #1 seed was to beat #2 Tennessee and go undefeated; and that's ridiculous.College basketball is slowly morphing into college football.

BigVE
03-16-2008, 05:57 PM
The other link was only a partial bracket, this one is complete:
http://l.yimg.com/img.sports.yahoo.com/r/ncaab/tourneybracket?final=1

kstater
03-16-2008, 05:58 PM
Alright KU fans and KSU fans, and Nebraska fans. Time to put the rivalries aside and cheer on the Big 12 in Omaha.

Old Dog
03-16-2008, 05:58 PM
I agree, and the only thing Memphis could have done to stay out of the 4th #1 seed was to beat #2 Tennessee and go undefeated; and that's ridiculous.

They're the 2nd #1, not 4th. KU is the 4th.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 05:58 PM
I still haven't heard a reasonable explaination that Arizona is in.....

I'm still waiting....Arizona isn't even as crazy as Oregon. And UO got a 9, somehow.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 05:58 PM
So who is everyone's sleeper picks? Cinderella's??

That's a very hard question this year, because there's not huge depth, IMO, so I'm going to have to hold back on picking too many upsets.

A CBS guy just put all 4 #1s in the FF.

KSU could beat USC, but that's a tough one.
Villanova over Clemson, not because Clemson is bad, but because they're Clemson. ;)
Butler over Tennessee.
Anyone over Notre Dame.
Baylor over Purdue (B12 homer/B11 hater pick)
Vanderbilt over Kansas.... not that I'll pick it, because Vanderbilt is shaky, but they can shoot.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 05:58 PM
Yes. How dare we go 33-1 with an RPI of #3, SOS of #27, and the best non-conference SOS in the country.

well your coach has slick hair, so he must be dirty.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 06:02 PM
Vanderbilt over Kansas.... not that I'll pick it, because Vanderbilt is shaky, but they can shoot.

This is one KU fans shouldn't overlook. I've seen almost every Vandy game this year and they are for real. Foster might win SEC POY and Ogilvy is a beast inside. The rest of the team is scrappy and fills their roles well.

Coach
03-16-2008, 06:02 PM
Arizona isn't even as crazy as Oregon. And UO got a 9, somehow.

Arizona State should be in over Arizona. Oregon, I guess it's debateable, but I think what really bothers me is that ASU beat Arizona twice, and has a better conference and overall record, and they're out?

F**k that.

the Talking Can
03-16-2008, 06:02 PM
I'll take it.

rock chalk

Memphis got raped anally with UT as a #2...

I'd much rather play Georgetown than UT or Tenn....and I'd much rather play
#4 Vandy then a #4 like Connecticut.

USC could take out Wisconsin. Clemson looks tough too.

USC/KSU is a great matchup, but USC is a better Team.

kstater
03-16-2008, 06:04 PM
Bobby Knight wants 128 teams.

kstater
03-16-2008, 06:06 PM
Vitale thinks VT should be in because they played UNC.

Lzen
03-16-2008, 06:06 PM
Has anyone seen Arizona State's non con schedule? That's the only reason that they are ranked so low in the RPI. They have some great wins, though.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 06:07 PM
well your coach has slick hair, so he must be dirty.That's pretty much it. Suuuuuure, he's never run afoul of the NCAA in his 16 years as a head coach, but... HE'S DIRTY! HE JUST HAS TO BE!

This is one KU fans shouldn't overlook. I've seen almost every Vandy game this year and they are for real. Foster might win SEC POY and Ogilvy is a beast inside. The rest of the team is scrappy and fills their roles well.Vandy has a chance to make a run. Foster's incredible.

kstater
03-16-2008, 06:08 PM
That's pretty much it. Suuuuuure, he's never run afoul of the NCAA in his 16 years as a head coach, but... HE'S DIRTY! HE JUST HAS TO BE!



Settle down, I think Eazyb was being sarcastic.

Lzen
03-16-2008, 06:09 PM
Bobby Knight wants 128 teams.

Bob Knight said something I agree with. Not necessarily the 128 teams. I just think it's unfair that some of these automatic conference tourney teams get in. Sometimes, that causes better teams to get left out. Perhaps 96 teams?

kstater
03-16-2008, 06:09 PM
VT pity party on ESPN now.

eazyb81
03-16-2008, 06:09 PM
Has anyone seen Arizona State's non con schedule? That's the only reason that they are ranked so low in the RPI. They have some great wins, though.

Who did Arizona beat in non-con? They played a few good teams but they also lost those games.

Then, they lost to ASU both times and had a losing record in the conference. That last one is a killer for me, I don't think anyone that has a losing conference record deserves to play for a championship.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 06:10 PM
Settle down, I think Eazyb was being sarcastic.I agreed with Eazyb, then expounded upon his statement.

Coach
03-16-2008, 06:11 PM
Who did Arizona beat in non-con? They played a few good teams but they also lost those games.

Then, they lost to ASU both times and had a losing record in the conference. That last one is a killer for me, I don't think anyone that has a losing conference record deserves to play for a championship.

This I agree.

The only reason they should be in if they did win the Pac 10 tournament, which they did not.

Old Dog
03-16-2008, 06:12 PM
Just say no to expanding the tournament......Greenburg (VT coach) just said 3 or 4 times why you say no..........."we had a chance to beat ______". Get rid of the play in game and go back to 64.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 06:17 PM
Just say no to expanding the tournament......Greenburg (VT coach) just said 3 or 4 times why you say no..........."we had a chance to beat ______". Get rid of the play in game and go back to 64.I would be fine with expanding to 68 and having Monday/Tuesday serve as an opening round for 8 small conference champions (since their tournaments should be well over by then, anyways), but anything more than that is overkill. It sucks for teams like Illinois State, Dayton, and Arizona State that they got screwed in lieu of worse teams, but it's not like they were going to win the national title anyways.

ROYC75
03-16-2008, 06:17 PM
Jankovitch and Illinois State got Jobbed.

Yes they did....... should have been in.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 06:19 PM
This is one KU fans shouldn't overlook. I've seen almost every Vandy game this year and they are for real. Foster might win SEC POY and Ogilvy is a beast inside. The rest of the team is scrappy and fills their roles well.

It's hard to decide on that one, because Vanderbilt was so inconsistent after they beat Tennessee.... and even that victory didn't completely convince me, because I knew Tennessee was going to lose their next game after beating Memphis; it could have been against anyone.

Most, if not all, of my brackets will have Kansas/Vanderbilt.

ROYC75
03-16-2008, 06:19 PM
Bob Knight said something I agree with. Not necessarily the 128 teams. I just think it's unfair that some of these automatic conference tourney teams get in. Sometimes, that causes better teams to get left out. Perhaps 96 teams?


Bobby Knight hit the nail on the head........ You don't get the best, I said the BEST 65 teams in this tournament.

Coach
03-16-2008, 06:20 PM
I would be fine with expanding to 68 and having Monday/Tuesday serve as an opening round for 8 small conference champions (since their tournaments should be well over by then, anyways), but anything more than that is overkill. It sucks for teams like Illinois State, Dayton, and Arizona State that they got screwed in lieu of worse teams, but it's not like they were going to win the national title anyways.

No, but it makes it more fun. I always like watching a mid-major team beating a major conference team.

That's what makes it fun. The unpredictability of the tournament.

tk13
03-16-2008, 06:24 PM
This year was such a mess that we were gonna have an uproar no matter what. Too many teams in a giant cluster. Team A had something better than Team B, which had something over Team C... but Team C had something over Team A for like 20 different teams.

If anything, I'm all for going back to 64 and dropping an at-large team. People complain about team X, team Y, or how the 15-16 seeds aren't worth having in the tourney. But it's not like Villanova is gonna win this thing either. Instead people want to make it more complicated and create arguments over teams 120-128... which would be teams that are probably below .500 in major conferences or 2nd place teams in really poor conferences, that aren't going to win it all.

Make it less complicated, less at-large teams, reward teams for winning their conferences. If you want a guaranteed shot, go do what Georgia did... they just won their tourney in a more difficult situation than just about any team in any conference tourney in history. Force teams to earn their way in, whether it be Illinois State or Syracuse.

Old Dog
03-16-2008, 06:25 PM
KU vs Texas #3 for all the marbles????

That's how my bracket just came out (OK, I can't keep my heart off of the damned thing).

The tournament Cinderella will be Baylor getting to the Sweet 16 before losing to Duke.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 06:25 PM
Leave it at 65, or even put it back one to 64.

It's not like the BCS where you have to tell a top 10 team that they aren't going to play in a BCS Bowl, and you have to tell a top THREE team that they aren't going to play in the NC game.

You're deciding who's going to have a chance of upsetting a 4 or 5 seed, and maybe making it as far as the Sweet 16.

Until #11+ seeds start regularly making runs in the tournament, there's no reason to open it up to more teams that can lose in the first 2 rounds.

Ultra Peanut
03-16-2008, 06:28 PM
No, but it makes it more fun. I always like watching a mid-major team beating a major conference team.

That's what makes it fun. The unpredictability of the tournament.They don't want you to see that anymore, regardless of the size of the tourney. Check out this year's bracket and all of the oh-so-coincidental first round matchups of mid-major teams.

If you want the expanded tournament, your best bet is probably to just watch the new look NIT. There's your first round.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 06:28 PM
KU vs Texas #3 for all the marbles????

That's how my bracket just came out (OK, I can't keep my heart off of the damned thing).

The tournament Cinderella will be Baylor getting to the Sweet 16 before losing to Duke.

That's why I wait a day or two. LMAO

I have to erase the emotion of the Texas/Kansas game, and not think about teams like Tennessee and Duke as disappointments just because they didn't play in their conference championship game.

Braincase
03-16-2008, 06:35 PM
Here's hoping KU & K-State get another crack at each other... the Africa game!

Fairplay
03-16-2008, 06:40 PM
Finally four for the Hawks. This has to be their year.

Bearcat
03-16-2008, 06:41 PM
Here's hoping KU & K-State get another crack at each other... the Africa game!

Even worse.... Detroit.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/alexisard/drklahn.jpg

Mr. Arrowhead
03-16-2008, 07:07 PM
2 thoughts, i think KU prolly has one of the tougher Brackett's and the Ill state got screwed in my opinion, no way Oregon goes in before them.

Priest4Prez
03-16-2008, 07:46 PM
They have a rough go of it to make a run. They will probably win against western kentucky, but after that it gets ugly. Uconn, UCLA, and then Duke to win their region. But, I think Butler goes all the way to the final four, knocking off UNC. KU takes the midwst, UT takes South. West is a tossup, i think it could go a lot of ways.

Skip Towne
03-16-2008, 07:49 PM
Here's hoping KU & K-State get another crack at each other... the Africa game!

KSU was one of KU's victims in '88.

KevB
03-16-2008, 07:51 PM
I'll take it.

rock chalk

Memphis got raped anally with UT as a #2...

I'd much rather play Georgetown than UT or Tenn....and I'd much rather play
#4 Vandy then a #4 like Connecticut.

USC could take out Wisconsin. Clemson looks tough too.

USC/KSU is a great matchup, but USC is a better Team.

Agree with all of this. Third year in a row for Memphis. Three years ago, they're the #1 seed and play UCLA in Anaheim to get to the Final Four. Last year as the #2 seed, they play A&M in San Antonio in the Sweet Sixteen. This year it's Texas in Houston. Ridiculous.

doomy3
03-16-2008, 07:57 PM
Jay Bilas just picked us to win the National Championship

doomy3
03-16-2008, 07:58 PM
Jay Bilas just picked us to win the National Championship



So did Hubert Davis. He has us beating Texas in the Championship

Bill S Preston
03-16-2008, 07:59 PM
As a UCLA fan I'm very happy with the way our bracket has turned out. Also, Arizona, and especially Oregon, should not have gotten in.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 08:00 PM
all of the ESPN announcers picked KU to make FInal Four, except Dickhead Vitale. He has UNC to win it all. Big Surprise.

tk13
03-16-2008, 08:00 PM
Maybe this will finally be the year... but it's so pointless to watch these experts make their picks. It's always the 1 vs 2 seeds, then all the number 1 seeds making the Final Four. It's like they are robots, those might be the best four teams going in but the tournament never turns out that way.

I actually think the #1 team in each region is probably the best team in that bracket this year... but at least 1 or 2 of them is going to lose, somewhere.

alnorth
03-16-2008, 08:01 PM
Maybe this will finally be the year... but it's so pointless to watch these experts make their picks. It's always the 1 vs 2 seeds, then all the number 1 seeds making the Final Four. It's like they are robots, those might be the best four teams going in but the tournament never turns out that way.

Yes, but if one year all 4 #1 seeds did make it, wouldnt THAT be an incredible upset? :D

banyon
03-16-2008, 08:27 PM
Jay Bilas just picked KU to win it all

BWillie
03-16-2008, 08:31 PM
Does anybody have any idea when Kansas plays on Saturday? Like what time?

kstater
03-16-2008, 08:32 PM
Does anybody have any idea when Kansas plays on Saturday? Like what time?

They have to win on Thursday first. Those 16 seeds are a pesky little bunch.

BWillie
03-16-2008, 08:38 PM
They have to win on Thursday first. Those 16 seeds are a pesky little bunch.

Well I actually meant Thurs and Saturdays game. But yeah, assuming they get past the mighty Portland State. Portland State lost to UCLA by 20...that is about all I know about them.

Skip Towne
03-16-2008, 08:41 PM
Destroy the Vikings!

Thig Lyfe
03-16-2008, 08:41 PM
Tip #1 for filling out your brackets: don't think so much.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2338625551_e2a9584441.jpg?v=0

88TG88
03-16-2008, 09:31 PM
BRING ON BEASLEY !!

Mr. Kotter
03-16-2008, 10:28 PM
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