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Bowser
03-16-2008, 08:24 PM
Or is it just a BS reason they give you to pull you over and see if you're doing something you shouldn't be doing? It's happened to me twice now in the past few months. I screwed up this last time, and gave the cop an out (and he was cool about it, no cop attitude bullshit for a change). He came to my window, told me there was a warrant out aginst my plates, and I stopped him there, asking "Is the name ..........". He said yes, and I explained to him what happened to me last time. He looked at my ID, didn't even run it, apologized, and that was that.

SO, should I call the DMV and ask WTF is going on with my plate number and why it hasn't been changed from the previous driver, or is this all just cop BS?

Baconeater
03-16-2008, 08:25 PM
I seem to remember another thread about this. It's absolute bullshit, they put warrants out against people, not cars.

Bowser
03-16-2008, 08:29 PM
I seem to remember another thread about this. It's absolute bullshit, they put warrants out against people, not cars.

Yeah, that was my thread, too. That was more of a "cops are assholes" kind of a thing. But now that this has happened twice, I wonder if there isn't something to it. I should have made the cop tell me the name of the person who the warrant was against, instead of giving him the out. That he didn't run my ID was telling as well.

Chiefnj2
03-16-2008, 08:30 PM
It would seem more likely that he ran your plates and received info that there was a warrant for the owner of the vehicle.

Bowser
03-16-2008, 08:30 PM
Yeah, that was my thread, too. That was more of a "cops are assholes" kind of a thing. But now that this has happened twice, I wonder if there isn't something to it. I should have made the cop tell me the name of the person who the warrant was against, instead of giving him the out. That he didn't run my ID was telling as well.

And it happened in two different KC suburbs, just to be clear.

Bowser
03-16-2008, 08:31 PM
It would seem more likely that he ran your plates and received info that there was a warrant for the owner of the vehicle.

I'm the owner of the vehicle, and have been for two years. I have no warrants.

Dunit35
03-16-2008, 08:31 PM
What about this?

I'm with some friends. A cop follows us in town for probably 2-3 miles and then pulls us over (how long can they actually follow someone?) He then asks if he can search the persons car (she said no) He does it anyways...(is that legal). There was no reason for him to think we had anything illegal (he said he was checking for "guns, knives and bombs")

Problem 2. I get pulled over this past thursday for a busted tail light lense which is covered up with red tape. He takes my license, checks it, brings it back and says thanks bye. Is it illegal even if it's covered with red tape?

alanm
03-16-2008, 08:44 PM
What about this?

I'm with some friends. A cop follows us in town for probably 2-3 miles and then pulls us over (how long can they actually follow someone?) He then asks if he can search the persons car (she said no) He does it anyways...(is that legal). There was no reason for him to think we had anything illegal (he said he was checking for "guns, knives and bombs")

Problem 2. I get pulled over this past thursday for a busted tail light lense which is covered up with red tape. He takes my license, checks it, brings it back and says thanks bye. Is it illegal even if it's covered with red tape?
#1 No way he should of been allowed to search your car. What he could of done then is call for a dog and when the dog came and signaled a hit the cop would of then had probable cause to search.
#2 I don't believe it's legal to cover a tail lens with red tape. The guy probably could have given you a fix it ticket but didn't feel like it. Consider yourself lucky and get it fixed before you get pulled over again. You will.

Baconeater
03-16-2008, 08:45 PM
Yeah, that was my thread, too. That was more of a "cops are assholes" kind of a thing. But now that this has happened twice, I wonder if there isn't something to it. I should have made the cop tell me the name of the person who the warrant was against, instead of giving him the out. That he didn't run my ID was telling as well.
I'm pretty damn skeptical about it, if there was a warrant out against you they'd find out when they ran your license. It must be an excuse they train cops to use in your area.
What about this?

I'm with some friends. A cop follows us in town for probably 2-3 miles and then pulls us over (how long can they actually follow someone?) He then asks if he can search the persons car (she said no) He does it anyways...(is that legal). There was no reason for him to think we had anything illegal (he said he was checking for "guns, knives and bombs")

Problem 2. I get pulled over this past thursday for a busted tail light lense which is covered up with red tape. He takes my license, checks it, brings it back and says thanks bye. Is it illegal even if it's covered with red tape?
As far as I know, a cop can't legally search your vehicle unless he either has:

A. Probable cause to believe there's something illegal in it or it's being used for illegal activity

B. the vehicle operator's permission

As far as the taillight, laws may vary but most states all that's required is one red taillight, and one covered with red tape should qualify as that. More than likely he was just looking for an excuse to pull you over.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 08:48 PM
I'm the owner of the vehicle, and have been for two years. I have no warrants.


effing MUron drivers... especially ones named Baowser.

Bowser
03-16-2008, 08:55 PM
effing MUron drivers... especially ones named Baowser.

Sashan Kaun's member isn't going to suck itself, Ari. Get busy.

MIAdragon
03-16-2008, 08:56 PM
As far as I know, a cop can't legally search your vehicle unless he either has:

A. Probable cause to believe there's something illegal in it or it's being used for illegal activity



And they will ALWAYS find a reason for probable cause, it sucks but is just how it is.

Bowser
03-16-2008, 08:58 PM
And they will ALWAYS find a reason for probable cause, it sucks but is just how it is.

I figured that's what happened in my case. Just enough to see if he can get a whiff of booze or weed.

MIAdragon
03-16-2008, 09:02 PM
I figured that's what happened in my case. Just enough to see if he can get a whiff of booze or weed.

I really hate cops.

crazycoffey
03-16-2008, 09:02 PM
I seem to remember another thread about this. It's absolute bullshit, they put warrants out against people, not cars.


but they also list vehicle information and if a plate is run that is a match to that person's warrant, maybe just the state is different or something, and then the cop has probable cause for the stop. It's not actually a warrant for the car, but it is also not B.S.

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 09:03 PM
Sashan Kaun's member isn't going to suck itself, Ari. Get busy.

Don't you have an NIT to prepare for... oh wait. NM.ROFL

Ari Chi3fs
03-16-2008, 09:04 PM
I really hate cops.

i really love teh tits on your avatar... find more of that woman. NOW!

Bowser
03-16-2008, 09:05 PM
but they also list vehicle information and if a plate is run that is a match to that person's warrant, maybe just the state is different or something, and then the cop has probable cause for the stop. It's not actually a warrant for the car, but it is also not B.S.

I'd buy that if I hadn't been the owner for nearly three years, with the first incident happening two years after I bought the car and was issued those plates.

crazycoffey
03-16-2008, 09:07 PM
#1 No way he should of been allowed to search your car. What he could of done then is call for a dog and when the dog came and signaled a hit the cop would of then had probable cause to search.
#2 I don't believe it's legal to cover a tail lens with red tape. The guy probably could have given you a fix it ticket but didn't feel like it. Consider yourself lucky and get it fixed before you get pulled over again. You will.


#1 - look up Terry search. for safety a quick "pat down" search of a person, or "arm's reach" search of a vehicle is covered. It's only meant for a quick search for weapons, not for seeds or anything else. The cop can do a more detailed search with the driver's permission, search incident to an arrest, the terry search explained above, or if the cop sees something in "plain view" that looks like a weapon, drug paraphernalia, illegal substances, or other violation.

#2 - no you can't cover a tail light with red tape.

oh and why can't a cop follow you? there has to be a "length of time" first? What if he's just going to the same place as you?

Bowser
03-16-2008, 09:10 PM
I'll ask you, CC - How do I go about making it so I'm not stopped every now and again, hearing that there is a warrant against my plates, or is it like GoBo said, and possibly just a procedure the local cops use to get a peek at what's going on inside the car?

crazycoffey
03-16-2008, 09:13 PM
I'd buy that if I hadn't been the owner for nearly three years, with the first incident happening two years after I bought the car and was issued those plates.


you missed part of what I said, here -

bad guy A has a warrant for whatever, they put in his known vehicle information and five years ago he had a plate that matches the one you have now, maybe from another state, maybe not, maybe even one character is off (an E instead of a 3). Then when your plate gets ran they see an associated warrant and stop you.

If it keeps happening you should be able to get it updated and corrected. It doesn't happen all the time to everyone, but it's like the "no fly" list for the airports - someone has a name similar to Osama and then they get extra questioning before they get on a plane.

crazycoffey
03-16-2008, 09:17 PM
I'll ask you, CC - How do I go about making it so I'm not stopped every now and again, hearing that there is a warrant against my plates, or is it like GoBo said, and possibly just a procedure the local cops use to get a peek at what's going on inside the car?


I highly doubt it is a "procedure" - I know there are bad apples out there, but I just don't buy this.

To get it off, sorry you'll need to get more advice from a lawyer type. My experience comes from enforcing laws / warrants - not with the writing of said laws, or changing it. If it was a warrant from KC and you were driving in KC it may be as simple as going to the department and talking to a lieutenant on the force that may get the process of your license off. If you keep getting stopped perhaps a lawyer would do it and sue the city / county for his costs and some personal damages to you. I don't know, I'm just guessing this all now.....

Dunit35
03-16-2008, 10:44 PM
#1 - look up Terry search. for safety a quick "pat down" search of a person, or "arm's reach" search of a vehicle is covered. It's only meant for a quick search for weapons, not for seeds or anything else. The cop can do a more detailed search with the driver's permission, search incident to an arrest, the terry search explained above, or if the cop sees something in "plain view" that looks like a weapon, drug paraphernalia, illegal substances, or other violation.

#2 - no you can't cover a tail light with red tape.

oh and why can't a cop follow you? there has to be a "length of time" first? What if he's just going to the same place as you?

The cop def wasn't going the same place as us. We went everywhere trying to see if he would continue following us.

Huffman83
03-16-2008, 10:58 PM
I'm a dispatcher and I may be able to shed some light into this.

Like mentioned before the plates match up to a subject that has a warrant. However a plate has to match in order for it to happen. There are no exceptions on that, but the state can be different if the actual plate matches. There would be too many variations that are close to lic plates in Mo.

9/10 times when one of Columbia's finest asks me to run a plate that has a hit associated w/ the plate. It's from a different state. Some cops are running your plate info into a computer as they're following you (yes while they're driving!) So all they see is a possible NCIC hit from another state but they might not be able to look over the entire warrant info and look at the details.

Which is why they pulled you over, looked over the actual warrant and went....oh...the plate w/ the warrant was out if Illinois...nevermind!

Bowser
03-16-2008, 11:11 PM
I'm a dispatcher and I may be able to shed some light into this.

Like mentioned before the plates match up to a subject that has a warrant. However a plate has to match in order for it to happen. There are no exceptions on that, but the state can be different if the actual plate matches. There would be too many variations that are close to lic plates in Mo.

9/10 times when one of Columbia's finest asks me to run a plate that has a hit associated w/ the plate. It's from a different state. Some cops are running your plate info into a computer as they're following you (yes while they're driving!) So all they see is a possible NCIC hit from another state but they might not be able to look over the entire warrant info and look at the details.

Which is why they pulled you over, looked over the actual warrant and went....oh...the plate w/ the warrant was out if Illinois...nevermind!

Thanks for the info.

Both times, the cop had me confused with a person from Sugar Creek, MO, so it's not an out of state thing.

Is there a way to check up on this myself, via the web, or am I going to have to deal with the DMV?

Baconeater
03-16-2008, 11:14 PM
Thanks for the info.

Both times, the cop had me confused with a person from Sugar Creek, MO, so it's not an out of state thing.

Is there a way to check up on this myself, via the web, or am I going to have to deal with the DMV?
Actually, I'd start with your local police dept, I doubt the DMV would have any info regarding warrants.

Bowser
03-16-2008, 11:16 PM
Actually, I'd start with your local police dept, I doubt the DMV would have any info regarding warrants.

Yeah, I think I may give Sugar Creek's finest a call, and let them know they need to update their files.

Fish
03-16-2008, 11:55 PM
In comes CrazyCoffey.... taser in hand........

Where you been? Haven't seen ya lately..

ClevelandBronco
03-17-2008, 12:09 AM
I really hate cops.

Those who follow the law usually have no good reason to hate cops.

Those who break the law should hate the lawmakers and quit wasting their time hating cops.

DenverChief
03-17-2008, 12:16 AM
Those who follow the law usually have no good reason to hate cops.

Those who break the law should hate the lawmakers and quit wasting their time hating cops.

Lol :clap:

crazycoffey
03-17-2008, 06:30 AM
In comes CrazyCoffey.... taser in hand........

Where you been? Haven't seen ya lately..


Well, I've been around, guess I'm working a bit more and wasting time on another board too. Just haven't had a reason to taze anybros lately....
:evil:


Those who follow the law usually have no good reason to hate cops.

Those who break the law should hate the lawmakers and quit wasting their time hating cops.

:clap: Great Post....