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Count Alex's Losses
03-17-2008, 11:09 AM
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/03/sinbad_unloads_on_hillary_clin.html

Finally, the Barack Obama campaign has found a big gun to help shoot down Hillary Rodham Clinton's self-proclaimed foreign policy experience. And he may be the wackiest gun of all: Sinbad, the actor, who has come out from under a rock to defend Obama in the war over foreign policy credentials.

Sinbad, along with singer Sheryl Crow, was on that 1996 trip to Bosnia that Clinton has described as a harrowing international experience that makes her tested and ready to answer a 3 a.m. phone call at the White House on day one, a claim for which she's taking much grief on the campaign trail.

Sinbad, performing in 2007 for shareholders of Wal-Mart. Hillary Rodham Clinton served on the board of Wal-Mart from 1986 to 1992. (Spencer Tirey -- The Associated Press)

Harrowing? Not that Sinbad recalls. He just remembers it being a USO tour to buck up the troops amid a much worse situation than he had imagined between the Bosnians and Serbs.

In an interview with the Sleuth Monday, he said the "scariest" part of the trip was wondering where he'd eat next. "I think the only 'red-phone' moment was: 'Do we eat here or at the next place.'"

Clinton, during a late December campaign appearance in Iowa, described a hair-raising corkscrew (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/29/hold_the_crumpets.html)landing in war-torn Bosnia, a trip she took with her then-teenage daughter, Chelsea. "They said there might be sniper fire," Clinton said.

Threat of bullets? Sinbad doesn't remember that, either.

"I never felt that I was in a dangerous position. I never felt being in a sense of peril, or 'Oh, God, I hope I'm going to be OK when I get out of this helicopter or when I get out of his tank.'"

In her Iowa stump speech, Clinton also said, "We used to say in the White House that if a place is too dangerous, too small or too poor, send the First Lady."

Say what? As Sinbad put it: "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"
As you may have guessed by now, Sinbad isn't supporting Clinton for president. He's an Obama guy. All because of Clinton.

"What got me about Hillary was her attitude of entitlement, like he messed up her plan, like he had no reason to be there," Sinbad said. "I got angry. I actually got angry! I said, 'I will be for Obama like never before.'"

But he's less ticked off with the Clinton campaign than he is with Saturday Night Live for its Hillary-loving sketches (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/10/politics/horserace/entry3921424.shtml)that portray Obama as an unqualified nervous Nelly. What really bothers him is SNL's choice of actor (Fred Armisen (http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/bios/index.shtml)) to play Obama.

"My problem is -- you couldn't just temporarily hire a black man to play Obama? You had to put a white man in a black face? You couldn't find a light-skinned brother to play Obama?"

The Clinton campaign doesn't seem amused by Sinbad's commentary or his recollection of the 1996 Bosnia trip as more depressing than harrowing.

Defending Clinton's characterization of her Bosnia mission, campaign spokesman Phil Singer kindly provided experts from news stories written about the trip at the time, including a Washington Post story from May 26, 1996, that said, "This trip to Bosnia marks the first time since Roosevelt that a first lady has voyaged to a potential combat zone."

Singer also cited a Kansas City Star article from September 2000 that quoted Sinbad as describing the situation in Bosnia as "so tense. It was Crips and Bloods." (And that's how Sinbad continued to characterize the situation in our interview Monday. He said, "At the time, we didn't realize how crazy it was between the Bosnians and the Serbs. I didn't realize how much hate was going on.")

Still, defending Clinton against Sinbad the refuter, Singer said, "The sad reality of what was going on in Bosnia at the time Senator Clinton traveled there as first lady has been well documented. It appears that Sinbad's experience in Bosnia goes back further than Senator Obama's does. In fact, has Senator Obama ever been to Bosnia?"

Snarky, snarky!

patteeu
03-17-2008, 11:24 AM
Yep. Hillary is almost as devoid of foreign policy experience as Obama. If foreign policy is your concern, John McCain is your only option with any expertise at all.

StcChief
03-17-2008, 12:06 PM
Sinbad now there's a credible source to speak, Get Chris Rock out there too.

BucEyedPea
03-17-2008, 12:16 PM
Yep. Hillary is almost as devoid of foreign policy experience as Obama. If foreign policy is your concern, John McCain is your only option with any expertise at all.

I'd be interested in hearing of Mac's FP experience. Does fighting in a war, and spending his longest period of it as a POW qualify one? I think they may run a war but what about other aspects of FP like diplomacy or just not losing one's temper?

Cochise
03-17-2008, 12:24 PM
Who in the world gives a flying rip what Sinbad thinks?

I mean, who cares what any celebrity thinks. But he's not even a celebrity, he's an ex-celebrity. Has the guy even worked in 10 years? Why the hell do we keep getting Sinbad threads?

Anybody know what Todd Bridges thinks about Hillary Clinton? What about Gary Coleman? has Tori Spelling weighed in yet? Anyone know how to get ahold of Tawny Kitaen? I cannot decide until I know what the dad on ALF would do!

patteeu
03-17-2008, 02:38 PM
Who in the world gives a flying rip what Sinbad thinks?

I mean, who cares what any celebrity thinks. But he's not even a celebrity, he's an ex-celebrity. Has the guy even worked in 10 years? Why the hell do we keep getting Sinbad threads?

Anybody know what Todd Bridges thinks about Hillary Clinton? What about Gary Coleman? has Tori Spelling weighed in yet? Anyone know how to get ahold of Tawny Kitaen? I cannot decide until I know what the dad on ALF would do!

:LOL:

Count Alex's Losses
03-17-2008, 02:39 PM
Sinbad was THERE. I don't see a problem.

patteeu
03-17-2008, 02:43 PM
I'd be interested in hearing of Mac's FP experience. Does fighting in a war, and spending his longest period of it as a POW qualify one? I think they may run a war but what about other aspects of FP like diplomacy or just not losing one's temper?

I'm not sure that you and I would agree on what constitutes foreign policy experience anyway. Recognizing that, let me take a stab at bringing you over to the McCain camp. I don't know if this is true or not, but would it help if I say that he spent a portion of his POW time in the fetal position, keeping his gaze down and otherwise trying to avoid provoking his guards?

Braincase
03-17-2008, 03:29 PM
I saw "Jingle All the Way", therefore I know SInbad has a good working relationship with the foreign-born governor of California, therefore he is a superior political comentator.

That said, I agree with him about Hillary's sense of entitlement.

HolmeZz
03-17-2008, 03:37 PM
Yep. Hillary is almost as devoid of foreign policy experience as Obama. If foreign policy is your concern, John McCain is your only option with any expertise at all.

It's a good thing the Republicans didn't nominate Romney then, eh?

HolmeZz
03-17-2008, 03:38 PM
Who in the world gives a flying rip what Sinbad thinks?

I mean, who cares what any celebrity thinks. But he's not even a celebrity, he's an ex-celebrity. Has the guy even worked in 10 years? Why the hell do we keep getting Sinbad threads?

Anybody know what Todd Bridges thinks about Hillary Clinton? What about Gary Coleman? has Tori Spelling weighed in yet? Anyone know how to get ahold of Tawny Kitaen? I cannot decide until I know what the dad on ALF would do!

LEAVE HILLARY ALONE

patteeu
03-17-2008, 04:00 PM
It's a good thing the Republicans didn't nominate Romney then, eh?

If Romney were the nominee, there wouldn't be anyone with foreign policy experience in the race, but there'd be one guy with extensive economic experience.

Oh, and one steady church-goer who didn't have to be embarrassed by the things his preacher said...

... and one candidate who didn't have any connection to either pardoning terrorists or meeting with them as he kicked off his political life.

... and one candidate who didn't have to reassure the Canadians privately that he wasn't really serious about the things he said about NAFTA. ;)

HolmeZz
03-17-2008, 04:07 PM
And one steady church-goer who didn't have to be embarrassed by the things his preacher said. :)

Actually he had to come out and explain why he was a member of the Mormon church while they discriminated against blacks.

patteeu
03-17-2008, 04:38 PM
Actually he had to come out and explain why he was a member of the Mormon church while they discriminated against blacks.

Is there really any comparison between "ended 30 years ago" and "ongoing for the last 20 years"? It's a shame that Trinity United Church of Christ can't come to grips with the race issue as well as the Mormons have even 30 years later.