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RustShack
03-25-2008, 12:46 PM
I read this on the WPI forum-

K.C. is offering runningback Larry Johnson, their 5th overall and a 3rd round selection for wide receiver Roy Williams, Lions 15th overall and a 4th round selection.

doomy3
03-25-2008, 12:48 PM
No way this is true. Not a chance.

Mecca
03-25-2008, 12:48 PM
If that was actually true the Chiefs should be laughed at because Roy Williams wants to go back to Texas..let's trade for a guy that we can't keep.

Pitt Gorilla
03-25-2008, 12:49 PM
Um, no.

jspchief
03-25-2008, 12:49 PM
lawl

Chiefnj2
03-25-2008, 12:49 PM
This is what happens when midgets reproduce.

ChiTown
03-25-2008, 12:50 PM
Also included, Gun's yellow hunting glasses, Herm's Jet's sweatshirt and a six pack of Jared Allen's favorite roadie beers.........

Stinger
03-25-2008, 12:52 PM
Source of the Rumor:

http://sportshound.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/deal-in-the-works-part-2/

Bowser
03-25-2008, 12:55 PM
Throw in Hugh Douglas, and it's a deal.

Hoover
03-25-2008, 12:56 PM
Why in the hell would we want a WR? Its not like DV is coming back to pass the ball 50 times a game to keep TG, Bowe and Roy happy.

Stupid.

Mr. Laz
03-25-2008, 12:57 PM
we PAID larry johnson his signing bonus already ...... he's not going anywhere.

jspchief
03-25-2008, 12:58 PM
Sooo.... The disparity in talent between Williams and Johnson is 10 spots in rnd 1 and a drop from rnd 3 to rnd 4?

Vegas_Dave
03-25-2008, 12:59 PM
Trade is ideal for both teams. I guess you can say it’s a win, win. No one side loses!

ROFL

I will stop being a Chiefs fan forever if this actually happens. This is the most absurd thing that I think I have ever read. This is NOT "ideal for both teams".

Wow.

Deberg_1990
03-25-2008, 01:00 PM
I call BS.

Roy Williams is a fine player, but hes the type of guy you add when your one or two players away.

Bowser
03-25-2008, 01:00 PM
I call BS.

Roy Williams is a fine player, but hes the type of guy you add when your one or two players away.

Oh, we're at least that many away.

Vegas_Dave
03-25-2008, 01:03 PM
Oh, we're at least that many away.

at multiple positions

chop
03-25-2008, 01:07 PM
Since when did Roy Williams value exceed LJ's? Somebody needs to step away from the crackpipe.

King_Chief_Fan
03-25-2008, 01:11 PM
I read this on the WPI forum-

K.C. is offering runningback Larry Johnson, their 5th overall and a 3rd round selection for wide receiver Roy Williams, Lions 15th overall and a 4th round selection.

that would seem logical to the idiots at WPI

Deberg_1990
03-25-2008, 01:14 PM
SO who makes this sh*t up??

Unbelievable....

ChiTown
03-25-2008, 01:17 PM
we PAID larry johnson his signing bonus already ...... he's not going anywhere.

Best point yet.

SBK
03-25-2008, 01:19 PM
I'd do the deal if even if we didn't get any picks back from Det. :)

blueballs
03-25-2008, 01:26 PM
THe fans mirrow their GM
ah shit

MVChiefFan
03-25-2008, 01:29 PM
Over the years I have heard a ton of rumors about the Chiefs. I can now safely say that this is the STUPIDEST one yet. I mean seriously, this makes every other past rumored move look like a work of genious.

markk
03-25-2008, 01:31 PM
it is a lot harder to find a good WR than a good RB

Fish
03-25-2008, 01:33 PM
I heard that we're sending LJ to Detroit by way of hot air balloon.... fueled with Chiefs cap dollars....

blueballs
03-25-2008, 01:34 PM
LJ's cap hit + Roy Williams contract = no FAs
ah shit

JBucc
03-25-2008, 01:34 PM
lol

Hays
03-25-2008, 01:44 PM
Well the lions will draft a wr in the first round like they always do but Roy Williams is their #1 he is a great receiver.

The chiefs who as many have said already paid Johnson his bonus so getting rid of him now would make no sense. Plus we would just have to draft another RB to bring in.

ZootedGranny
03-25-2008, 01:46 PM
More brilliant trade talk from that site:

Draft day trade ideas
March 16, 2008 · 2 Comments

By: MJP1972

What one would you accept if it presented itself?

1. Roy Williams to Dallas for one first round selection, (RB) Marion Barber (DE) Chris Canty (MLB/ST) Bobby Carpenter.

2. Roy Williams and Jeff Backus to Cleveland for (LT) Joe Thomas and a 5th?

3. Jon Kitna, Roy Williams and Shaun McDonald to the 49er’s for (MLB) Patrick Willis and a 4th?

doomy3
03-25-2008, 01:48 PM
More brilliant trade talk from that site:



That first one is hilarious. He must really think alot of Roy Williams

Fish
03-25-2008, 01:54 PM
I heard Detroit is in talks with Yahoo! regarding a trade for Roy Williams.....

Sully
03-25-2008, 01:55 PM
Can they throw in Brett Perriman?

Pestilence
03-25-2008, 01:56 PM
More brilliant trade talk from that site:

Holy crap. I didn't know that Roy Williams was Jesus.

Hays
03-25-2008, 01:58 PM
That first one is hilarious. He must really think alot of Roy Williams

Then he downgrades him on the last one to the 49ers

PhillyChiefFan
03-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Patrick Willis?? The man was unstoppable this past year and one of the few bright spots on that team why on EARTH would they trade him one year after they draft him. hahaha, Roy Williams is good, but holy s*it, come on.

noa
03-25-2008, 02:00 PM
Haha, that guy thinks teams would part with Marion Barber or Patrick Willis for Roy Williams. Williams is good, but no way would any team do that in their right mind. Barber is an RB and more easily replaceable, but still, he has been great for the Cowboys and has a knack for getting in the end zone. And they already have TO, Crayton (not sure about status of Glenn), I doubt they would have any desire to lose an RB to add an unnecessary WR. Plus, Williams has only made it through one season without injury.

evolve27
03-25-2008, 02:11 PM
Is this how the Chiefs are going to "shock the world" during the draft as Goatse mentioned? This is all talk, nothing else. Too much money committed in LJ.

CrazyPhuD
03-25-2008, 02:13 PM
What the hell is UNC going to do with our first round pick and Larry Johnson?

Hays
03-25-2008, 02:28 PM
Teams have been trying to take williams from the lions the past couple of years but they didn't want to get rid of him and i doubt they still do.

Williams however is tired of Detroit from speculation and would like to go elsewhere when his contract is up.

It would be a good move for Detroit to get something for him while they can.

BigMeatballDave
03-25-2008, 02:29 PM
Stupid. Why do people make shit up like this?

Chiefless
03-25-2008, 02:33 PM
So, we get Roy Williams, a first and a fourth for LJ, a third and a fifth.

This deal makes more sense if Darren McFadden falls to the Chiefs at #5.

I am assuming they would pick up a OT (and prolly reach for him) with the 15???

Not sure I would like it, because we don't really need a RB. I'd rather draft a stud at a position of need, which is pretty much every position BUT RB. McFadden may be the BAA if he falls that far, tho.

It would definitely be a shocker.

CosmicPal
03-25-2008, 02:33 PM
Stupid. Why do people make shit up like this?

There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were, and ask why not? :D

-Robert Kennedy, Jr.

Pestilence
03-25-2008, 02:38 PM
Source of the Rumor:

http://sportshound.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/deal-in-the-works-part-2/

The comments left on that site are hilarious. lol

8 responses so far ↓

sportsaddictforlife // March 25, 2008 at 2:51 pm

Yeah, this one definitely makes more sense. It looks like this deal favors the Lions a little bit, but you’re right, a potential win-win trade.

Yeah Right // March 25, 2008 at 5:56 pm

LMAO

You dopes think this is going to actually happen? Why not ask for the Chiefs 2nd and 4th round selections for nothing more in return, just to top it off. lmfao

sportsaddictforlife // March 25, 2008 at 6:12 pm

It’s called speculation. A trade is rumored to be happening and people then discuss what might be the ramifications of the deal.

Da Plane! Da Plane! // March 25, 2008 at 6:12 pm

Someone is living on Fantasy Island, you moron. Why would even think about “reporting” this? Carl Peterson is the single most inept GM in all of football, trumped only by your own Matt Millen, and not even he is stupid enough to entertain this “trade” for even a second.

You must be in cahoots with that butthole Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan at WPI to come up with this drivel. I highly doubt that you are him personally, however, since you seem to have a rudimentary grasp of grammar and spelling.

Hootie // March 25, 2008 at 6:37 pm

I like this trade. Please do it Carl or I’ll never suck your dick again!

Carl Peterson // March 25, 2008 at 6:38 pm

Just to clear things up, we’re doing this deal to get rid of our good players, and bring in a guy with a valuble expiring contract. I learned this from the NBA. Bitches@

WakeUp // March 25, 2008 at 6:57 pm

Take Larry Johnson out of the deal and it might just be fair. The Lions then may have a shot at McFadden.

NA // March 25, 2008 at 7:17 pm

Also Saunders will be announced the coach of the lions by Thursday…my sources tell me.

NA

Pestilence
03-25-2008, 02:39 PM
So, we get Roy Williams, a first and a fourth for LJ, a third and a fifth.

This deal makes more sense if Darren McFadden falls to the Chiefs at #5.

I am assuming they would pick up a OT (and prolly reach for him) with the 15???

Not sure I would like it, because we don't really need a RB. I'd rather draft a stud at a position of need, which is pretty much every position BUT RB. McFadden may be the BAA if he falls that far, tho.

It would definitely be a shocker.

Ummm dude....that's our 1st round pick (5th overall)...not our 5th round pick.

noa
03-25-2008, 02:39 PM
So, we get Roy Williams, a first and a fourth for LJ, a third and a fifth.

Well, according to the schmohawk who invented this rumor, its not a 5th round pick, its the 5th overall pick, so we would be giving our first and third for their first and fourth, plus the player swap.

Pestilence
03-25-2008, 02:43 PM
The site posted a reply.

http://sportshound.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/chiefs-fans-stop-crying/

Chiefs fans. Stop crying!
March 25, 2008 · No Comments
You should be happy with the trade. With Roy you win a few more games. Without him you are still, Well, the chiefs.

Besides, having Roy on your side betters your chances of beating the Lions the next time the two face each other.

noa
03-25-2008, 02:44 PM
Holy jeez that guy is an idiot.

CosmicPal
03-25-2008, 02:47 PM
This was his original "Deal in the Works"

Deal in the works
March 24, 2008 · 2 Comments

K.C. Trades: (RB) Larry Johnson and a 3rd

Detriot trades: Roy Williams and a 4th

beach tribe
03-25-2008, 02:47 PM
Good Lord.:rolleyes::shake:

beach tribe
03-25-2008, 02:51 PM
Let's flood his ass.

Hays
03-25-2008, 02:56 PM
haha well i thought they were going to offer us Millen for Peterson. Dang now that is a tough one to decide.

Mecca
03-25-2008, 02:58 PM
On the market Roy Williams does have more value than LJ does. I don't think there's much argument there, Williams could likely net a 1st rounder LJ isn't going to, a WR has more trade value than a RB with the 400 carry tread.

King_Chief_Fan
03-25-2008, 03:00 PM
haha well i thought they were going to offer us Millen for Peterson. Dang now that is a tough one to decide.

yup........noose or bullet?

noa
03-25-2008, 03:00 PM
On the market Roy Williams does have more value than LJ does. I don't think there's much argument there, Williams could likely net a 1st rounder LJ isn't going to, a WR has more trade value than a RB with the 400 carry tread.

In general, that is true of an elite WR, but Williams gets injured every season. I don't know that his market value is the same as an elite WR who is never injured.

Frankie
03-25-2008, 03:02 PM
If that was actually true the Chiefs should be laughed at because Roy Williams wants to go back to Texas..let's trade for a guy that we can't keep.

There are actually areas I agree with mecca in. This is one of them.

Mecca
03-25-2008, 03:03 PM
In general, that is true of an elite WR, but Williams gets injured every season. I don't know that his market value is the same as an elite WR who is never injured.

Ok he'd certainly still get more in a trade than LJ would.

Some of the comments just reminded me of last offseason, people seem to not understand what LJ's trade value is, it's not very good, it really never has been.

Warrior5
03-25-2008, 03:10 PM
Somewhere, somebody is ROFL his ass off reading 4 pages of responses.

Will a mod please shoot this thread in the head?

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-25-2008, 03:45 PM
If the Lions gave us their first six picks and Roy Williams in exchange for LJ and the #5, then it might be a decent deal.

Pestilence
03-25-2008, 03:52 PM
Nick Athan // March 25, 2008 at 8:13 pm

Come on dude, if you’re gonna be my source you have to be a little more discrete.

Short Leash Hootie
03-25-2008, 03:58 PM
Since when did Roy Williams value exceed LJ's? Somebody needs to step away from the crackpipe.

he is EASILY more valuable than LJ...every year there are 5-10 RB's that burst on to the scene as potential stars...a lot of them no one has ever even heard of, either...and shit, Kolby Smith outperformed LJ last year anyways...

It is hard to find a legit #1 WR in the NFL...Roy Williams has superstar ability if he can stay healthy...

That being said, I wouldn't touch this trade with a 20 foot pole...we signed LJ long term and now we're stuck with him, for better or for worse.

Short Leash Hootie
03-25-2008, 04:01 PM
by the way, it's hilarious that blog suggested the 49ers would part with Willis or the Browns would part with Joe Thomas...this isn't Major League Baseball...neither of those guys are on the block for ANYTHING.

CrazyPhuD
03-25-2008, 04:13 PM
It is hard to find a legit #1 WR in the NFL...Roy Williams has superstar ability if he can stay healthy...


Well the lions do know about that. Afterall they've drafted 4 WR in the top ten in the last 6 years and only 2 of them are still on their roster. ROFL

Rain Man
03-25-2008, 04:24 PM
Great. Now even Matt Millen thinks the Chiefs are stupid enough to be bamboozled.

Chiefless
03-25-2008, 05:46 PM
Ummm dude....that's our 1st round pick (5th overall)...not our 5th round pick.

Oh, I get it now. That deal would blow.

the Talking Can
03-25-2008, 06:00 PM
WPI = insane f#@!-tards

the Talking Can
03-25-2008, 06:04 PM
Source of the Rumor:

http://sportshound.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/deal-in-the-works-part-2/

ROFL

Nick Athan left a comment on that blog...

Pestilence
03-25-2008, 06:20 PM
ROFL

Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan left a comment on that blog...

See Post #59

CrazyPhuD
03-25-2008, 07:22 PM
Looks like someone got a little sand rubbed in their vagina and locked comments....

http://sportshound.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/deal-in-the-works-part-2/

sportsaddictforlife // March 25, 2008 at 9:27 pm

You Chiefs fans should really lighten up. At least they have made the playoffs recently, there are quite a few teams who can’t say that.
Geez! Half the fun of sports is the trade rumors. No matter how ridiculous they sound to some people.

As for Johnson, why is everyone acting like he is an elite player? Sure he had a good season and a half, but really.
He had a breakout “year” at the end of 2005 (When most other players had already endured the first half of the season), then in 2006 he had 416 carries and finished second in the League in rushing. And last I checked he missed half of last season with a foot injury. He is also 28, which means he is closing in on the age when many runners bow out.
And if you check the stats, Kolby Smith had basically the same stats as Larry did last year.
The Chiefs might as well try and take advantage of the high value Johnson has been deemed worthy of.
However the Chiefs have the big problem of that contract they gave him in order to keep him happy that could hinder deals.

chiefqueen
03-25-2008, 09:34 PM
Don't they know Roy Williams turns 58 in August and the Chiefs would be alienating most of their JOCO season tix holders because they felt betrayed by him 5 years ago.

Oh, wait...there's another Roy Williams?

Psyko Tek
03-25-2008, 09:50 PM
they trade LJ, so everybody thinks they are going for Mcfadden

then we trade down and get extra picks
Voila, profit

Iowanian
03-25-2008, 11:08 PM
This scenerio is about as likely as Gochiefs and Nick Athan doubling up on a girl in a red bikini under the George Brett statue during a home game tailgate...where Carl Waives 1 day parking fees.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-25-2008, 11:11 PM
That is the absolute dumbest trade scenario I have EVER heard for any team in any sport.

dj56dt58
03-25-2008, 11:51 PM
huh...well what does this do to the LJ/Bowe for Oprah and Dr Phil rumors?

buddha
03-26-2008, 12:40 AM
What has Roy Williams done to deserve being anything more than a straight up value for a beaten up Larry Johnson. Williams has had his share of nicks and cuts of a blade. While we're talking about dumb as dirt Carl here, we are also talking about the Lions, a tradition of stupidity like no other.

Pestilence
03-26-2008, 01:00 AM
Looks like someone got a little sand rubbed in their vagina and locked comments....

http://sportshound.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/deal-in-the-works-part-2/

Dude actually deleted the blog now. ROFL

CrazyPhuD
03-26-2008, 01:04 AM
Dude actually deleted the blog now. ROFL

WTF....it's completely gone...the whole thing....ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Talk about a whiney little bitch. Go CP!:evil::evil::evil::evil::evil:

stlchiefs
03-26-2008, 01:08 AM
Dude actually deleted the blog now. ROFL

Game. Set. Match.

SpankyMcSpank
03-26-2008, 01:17 AM
ROFL

markk
03-26-2008, 08:02 AM
i was going to say, before that he deleted the note i wrote about all the reasons why that didn't make sense and only left the ones where people just called him stupid