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HonestChieffan
03-25-2008, 04:24 PM
Wonder if he considered anything except Charity Outfits that are race based?


Obamas Donated Less Than 1% of Their 2000-2004 Income (Update2)

By Ryan J. Donmoyer and Julianna Goldman

March 25 (Bloomberg) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and his wife Michelle gave $10,772 of the $1.2 million they earned from 2000 through 2004 to charities, or less than 1 percent, according to tax returns for those years released today by his campaign.

The Obamas increased the amount they gave to charity when their income rose in 2005 and 2006 after the Illinois senator published a bestselling book. The $137,622 they gave over those two years amounted to more than 5 percent of their $2.6 million income.

Bill Burton, a campaign spokesman, said the Obamas gave as much as they could afford.

``As new parents who were paying off their large student loans, giving $10,000 to charity was as generous as they could be at the time,'' Burton said.

The Obamas' giving pattern is consistent with that of most other Americans, said University of Georgia Professor Russell James, who has studied the issue.

His analysis of more than 56,000 survey respondents from 1995-2005 found that 89 percent of donors give 2 percent or less of their after-tax income to charities, including their churches. Americans who earn more than $150,000 on average gave about 2.2 percent of their income.

``It's not shocking,'' James said of the Obamas' philanthropy. ``It's about par for the course for Americans.''

Pressuring Clinton

The Obamas' charitable giving history was revealed as he became the first presidential candidate to release his tax returns for the decade and called on his rival for the Democratic nomination, New York Senator Hillary Clinton, to do the same. Obama didn't release his 2007 return today.

``Releasing tax returns is a matter of routine, and we believe that the Clinton campaign should meet that standard and meet that routine standard now,'' said Robert Gibbs, Obama's communication director.

Clinton said today at a press conference in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, that she hopes to release her tax returns ``within the next week.'' Arizona Senator John McCain, the presumed Republican nominee, hasn't released his tax returns.

Presidential candidates aren't required to release their tax returns, which by law are confidential. Most have chosen to do so since the early 1970s.

Donations to Church

In 1998, then-Vice President Al Gore was criticized for donating only $353 to charity in 1997 despite earning $197,729. Gore, who was the 2000 Democratic nominee for president, responded by pointing to a history of philanthropy, including more than $50,000 in royalties from his book, ``Earth in the Balance.''

The Obamas made their church, Trinity United Church of Christ, one of the biggest beneficiaries of their philanthropy, donating $27,500. Obama is under scrutiny for his ties to the church because of comments made by its senior pastor.

The family's donations to all recipients totaled $2,350 in 2000, $1,470 in 2001, $1,050 in 2002, $3,400 in 2003, and $2,500 in 2004. They also paid federal taxes totaling $311,044 during the same period on their $1.2 million of income.

The Obamas' tax returns also show they had little savings during the same period. They reported no dividends or capital gains over the five years and reported a total of $33 in taxable interest, all of which was received in 2002.

Their biggest gift in 2005 and 2006 combined was $31,000 to Atlanta-based CARE, an organization fighting global poverty.

The Obamas also gave $13,107 to the Congressional Black Caucus in 2006 as well as $5,000 to the Muntu Dance Theatre, where Michelle Obama serves on a capital campaign committee with Bob Nash, a deputy campaign manager for Clinton.

Jenson71
03-25-2008, 04:31 PM
Wonder if he considered anything except Charity Outfits that are race based?

Sounds like the $30,000 donation to fighting global poverty wouldn't be race based.

dirk digler
03-25-2008, 04:34 PM
I hate to interrupt your Obama bashing but both he and his wife just finished paying off their school loans a year or so ago and IIRC those were in the hundreds of thousands of dollars because he went to Harvard and she went to Princeton.

stevieray
03-25-2008, 04:37 PM
this isn't anything new...Dems don't give as much..there was a thread about this, IIRC.

stevieray
03-25-2008, 04:40 PM
I hate to interrupt your Obama bashing

uh....you do realize that all the people here that bashed Bush for the last five years opened the door of their guy getting bashed...I find it interesting that everyone is fair game, unless it is Barry..

HonestChieffan
03-25-2008, 04:42 PM
I dont consider comments like that as having merit when the one making them calls Mrs McCain a "drug whore".

dirk digler
03-25-2008, 04:43 PM
uh....you do realize that all the people here that bashed Bush for the last five years opened the door of their guy getting bashed...I find it interesting that everyone is fair game, unless it is Barry..

Bash all you want I am just stating a fact

Jenson71
03-25-2008, 04:44 PM
uh....you do realize that all the people here that bashed Bush for the last five years opened the door of their guy getting bashed...I find it interesting that everyone is fair game, unless it is Barry..

Were there ever people here that defended Bush? Maybe like Bush supporters?

dirk digler
03-25-2008, 04:45 PM
I dont consider comments like that as having merit when the one making them calls Mrs McCain a "drug whore".

Did she have an extra-martial affair with John McCain? Yes = whore

Did she not steal money from her job to pay for her drug habit? Yes = druggie

Did her husband not interfere to get her a sweet deal instead of going to prison like the rest of us normal people? Yes.

Brock
03-25-2008, 05:00 PM
I give zero, so good for them.

dirk digler
03-25-2008, 05:00 PM
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1994-09-08/news/opiate-for-the-mrs/

Cindy, was addicted to prescription painkillers. She stole pills from a medical-aid charity she heads and she used the names of unsuspecting employees to get prescriptions.



Wow that is someone who I want to be first lady.

But McCain was making bold career moves on the home front, hotly pursuing a 25-year-old blond from a wealthy Arizona family -- while married. Carol, his wife at the time, had once been quite a babe herself apparently, until a near-fatal car accident (while her husband was in Vietnam) left her 4 inches shorter, overweight and on crutches. The couple had three children, whom Carol cared for alone while her husband was in Vietnamese prisons.
McCain's strategy worked perfectly: After chasing Cindy Hensley around the country for six months, he closed the deal late in the year, had a divorce by February and was married to Hensley shortly thereafter. Bingo! McCain was a candidate for Congress by early 1982, his coffers full, his home in the proper Arizona district purchased.


Wow even better. He dumped his old wife who was in a car accident for a better looking one.

Ultra Peanut
03-25-2008, 05:12 PM
Aw damn, he was TITHING?

That really hurts my respect for the guy.

Ultra Peanut
03-25-2008, 05:14 PM
uh....you do realize that all the people here that bashed Bush for the last five years opened the door of their guy getting bashed...I find it interesting that everyone is fair game, unless it is Barry..Bush was too distracted by his student loans to be a good president?

ChiefaRoo
03-25-2008, 06:02 PM
Jesus Tap dancing Chr8st. Don't you guys know?!! Pols only like to give people YOUR money! WAKE UP!! I used to say only Dems liked to do that but the Republicans have gone off the f**king rails the past 6 years. Ronald Reagan would not approve.

HolmeZz
03-25-2008, 06:29 PM
Those America-hating assholes only gave $150,000 to charity?

patteeu
03-25-2008, 08:11 PM
Those America-hating assholes only gave $150,000 to charity?

They're no Dick and Lynne Cheney, that's for sure. In 2005, on an adjusted gross income of only $8,819,006, the Cheney's donated $6,869,655 to charities.

Rain Man
03-25-2008, 08:28 PM
The Alternative Minimum Tax discourages charitable donations by people in income brackets that are above average, because they're no longer deductible. It needs to be fixed.

Okay, now that I've got that out of the way, anyone remember when it turned out that Bill Clinton was valuing his used underwear at $6.50 a pair when they were donated to Goodwill?