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jAZ
03-29-2008, 10:18 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/hagel-barack-best-to-uni_b_94003.html

Hagel: Barack Best to Unite Country
Posted March 29, 2008 | 02:53 AM (EST)

Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) said last night that, among the 3 remaining candidates, he thought Barack Obama had the best chance of bringing the country together. While he did not dismiss McCain (he's done that in the Senate) or Clinton (she's had some success in the Senate, not as much as McCain), he said that he believed that Barack Obama, for generational reasons, could best bring the country together.

Hagel also stated that he believes the inventory of problems the next President will face is unprecedented and that that is why it is so important that the country be brought together so that it could really solve problems. Although Hagel did not endorse Obama, he did not rule out the possibility.

Hagel, who is retiring from the Senate and, for awhile, from public life, pointed to data showing 81% of the country believe we are on the "wrong-track", that registration numbers show Republicans to be in the teens and Independents higher than Democrats, and that trust in Congress and the President is at all time lows.

"In a democracy", said Hagel, "people push something else out there" to take the place or transform institutions. He believes that that is what this election will ultimately be about.

banyon
03-29-2008, 10:21 PM
ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Wait, Denise is in love with Hagel. The cognitive dissonance may cause her head to explode! ROFL

SBK
03-29-2008, 10:25 PM
Isn't Hagel a rich white guy?

Call me crazy, but none of these jokers is going to unite anything.

banyon
03-29-2008, 10:25 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157261&highlight=Chuck+Hagel

SBK
03-29-2008, 10:30 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157261&highlight=Chuck+Hagel

LMAO

Now that's funny.

alanm
03-29-2008, 10:50 PM
Isn't Hagel a rich white guy?

Call me crazy, but none of these jokers is going to unite anything.
Hagel is a moron. I should know he's my soon to be ex Senator.
Retiring ROFL He saw the writing on the wall. He would of been blown out of the water if he went for re-election.

mikey23545
03-29-2008, 11:13 PM
Yeah, unified under the yoke of socialism...

jAZ
03-29-2008, 11:17 PM
Retiring ROFL He saw the writing on the wall.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9903E0D81E31F93AA3575AC0A9619C8B63

In announcing his retirement, Mr. Hagel will fulfill a promise he made to voters when he first ran for the Senate in 1996 that he would serve only two terms.

SBK
03-29-2008, 11:31 PM
Yeah, unified under the yoke of socialism...

That's what we've been fighting for!!! YEAH!!! :D

BucEyedPea
03-30-2008, 07:23 AM
Hagel is a moron. I should know he's my soon to be ex Senator.
Retiring ROFL He saw the writing on the wall. He would of been blown out of the water if he went for re-election.

From what I understand a number of Pubs in congress are retiring because there's a perfect storm coming and they don't want to be in it when it hits.

Even Ron Paul says most of the people do not like the direction this country is moving in.

But I don't ever believe one man will unite a whole country. Too many different people.

memyselfI
03-30-2008, 08:12 AM
Well, he's entitled to his opinion no matter how wrong this one is. I tend to think if Hillary were in Baaarack's position he'd be saying it was her. Just like amy number of Baaarack's supporters would be. :doh!:

Sully
03-30-2008, 09:54 AM
Well, he's entitled to his opinion no matter how wrong this one is. I tend to think if Hillary were in Baaarack's position he'd be saying it was her. Just like amy number of Baaarack's supporters would be. :doh!:

He's worshipping BARACK!!!!!
He understands the secret Muslim-Christian-black CODE!!!!!

jAZ
05-09-2008, 12:47 PM
Heh.

HolmeZz
05-09-2008, 12:50 PM
CCW has basically had to disavow everybody who's opinion she used to hold dear(Olbermann, Edwards, Maddow, Hagel).

Mr. Kotter
05-09-2008, 12:52 PM
Well, he's certainly independent.

It cracks me up to see folks that criticized and denigrated Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman for their "independence" applaud Hegel for his.

Hypocrisy like that shouldn't surprise me I guess, though. Heh.

Radar Chief
05-09-2008, 12:54 PM
ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Wait, Denise is in love with Hagel. The cognitive dissonance may cause her head to explode! ROFL

Dude, you obviously donít know Denise very well.
At least Iím assuming you havenít seen her in full squiggle mode.

StcChief
05-09-2008, 12:56 PM
Yeah, unified under the yoke of socialism...no doubt. Sooner this clown is outta congress the better

patteeu
05-09-2008, 12:56 PM
CCW has basically had to disavow everybody who's opinion she used to hold dear(Olbermann, Edwards, Maddow, Hagel).

She's still got me. :)

ClevelandBronco
05-09-2008, 01:02 PM
I'll remain ununited then, if you don't mind.

kchero
05-09-2008, 01:07 PM
I just don't see how Obama or anyone for that matter can unite the country. Obama has the most liberal voting record out of the entire senate so I fail to see how that is going to reach to most conservatives. Unfortunately it takes massive catostrophic events (i.e. 9/11 and Pearl Harbor) to unite the country in a manner where our citizens truely look at the "big picture" of things and realize that some of the smaller battles we fight with each other aren't as pressing at the moment because of the event(s) that is occuring.

memyselfI
05-09-2008, 01:08 PM
CCW has basically had to disavow everybody who's opinion she used to hold dear(Olbermann, Edwards, Maddow, Hagel).

I don't recall ever liking Rachel Maddow much. I still like Keith Olbermann and Chuck Hagel. I just turn the sound down when KO is talking about NObama/Hillary. And Chuck Hagel is calling them as he sees it. I don't agree with him but I respect his doing so.

Edwards dropping and then dealing his endorsement has been a big turn off. I'd vote for his wife if she ran but I don't think I'll support Edwards for anything again.

memyselfI
05-09-2008, 01:10 PM
She's still got me. :)

My love, our days are numbered. ;)

StcChief
05-09-2008, 01:20 PM
I just don't see how Obama or anyone for that matter can unite the country. Obama has the most liberal voting record out of the entire senate so I fail to see how that is going to reach to most conservatives. Unfortunately it takes massive catostrophic events (i.e. 9/11 and Pearl Harbor) to unite the country in a manner where our citizens truely look at the "big picture" of things and realize that some of the smaller battles we fight with each other aren't as pressing at the moment because of the event(s) that is occuring. and 9/11/2001 really wasn't that long ago.

except in the internet age it was lifetime ago.

Garcia Bronco
05-09-2008, 01:23 PM
Not that Hagel isn't correct on this one, but he is generally an idiot.

Mr. Kotter
05-09-2008, 01:26 PM
Not that Hagel isn't correct on this one, but he is generally an idiot.

He's not known as an intellect in his backyard, that's for sure.

jAZ
05-09-2008, 01:28 PM
Edwards dropping and then dealing his endorsement has been a big turn off.
I know you are hanging your hat on this, but it's just flat out untrue.

Edwards never endorsed anyone. You might be able to be upset that he didn't take a stand on an endorsement sooner, but he never traded his endorsement for anything. He never endorsed. And at this point, he - like Gore - will endorse the nominee.

Now, the fact that in the privacy of the booth, he chose to vote for Obama over Clinton says everything you need to know. He wasn't dealing that vote for anything.

In fact, politically, Edwards' hold out made his endorsement worthless to anyone. He lost any dealing leverage he might have had when Obama won NC by such a wide margin and IN (sans Limbaugh).

Donger
05-09-2008, 01:31 PM
For generational reasons?

memyselfI
05-09-2008, 01:32 PM
I know you are hanging your hat on this, but it's just flat out untrue.

Edwards never endorsed anyone. You might be able to be upset that he didn't take a stand on an endorsement sooner, but he never traded his endorsement for anything. He never endorsed. And at this point, he - like Gore - will endorse the nominee.

Now, the fact that in the privacy of the booth, he chose to vote for Obama over Clinton says everything you need to know. He wasn't dealing that vote for anything.

In fact, politically, Edwards' hold out made his endorsement worthless to anyone. He lost any dealing leverage he might have had when Obama won NC by such a wide margin and IN (sans Limbaugh).

Yes, I realize he's not endorsed anyone. I've said so at least twice in this thread.

He wants to make sure he supports the winner. He could not be seen going out on the limb and supporting the loser. That is how he could vote for someone he thinks is a pussy and lacks substance.

Unlike myself who won't do such a thing.

jAZ
05-09-2008, 01:54 PM
Yes, I realize he's not endorsed anyone. I've said so at least twice in this thread.
I assume you were referring to two comments you might have made in the other thread?
He wants to make sure he supports the winner. He could not be seen going out on the limb and supporting the loser.
Yes, as I said, we agree that you can reasonably object to this, but you didn't do that. You said that his dealing of his endorsement turned you off. That never happened.
That is how he could vote for someone he thinks is a pussy and lacks substance.

Unlike myself who won't do such a thing.
You are stating your own opinion as if it is Edwards. The reality is that Edwards personal vote has no affect on the election. He doesn't have to cast it for anyone. He doesn't have to cast it for the front runner. He doesn't have to cast it for the same person he might choose to publicly endorse.

His personal vote is far less of a political tool and therefore for more likely to reflect his own personal views.

That you can't get past the assumption that Obama is a conservative wolf in progressive clothing, doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same way.

Ultra Peanut
05-09-2008, 02:56 PM
So you praise his ability to judge situations, then completely disregard what he says about someone you've randomly decided to hate.

Awesome thread.

HolmeZz
05-09-2008, 03:48 PM
I don't recall ever liking Rachel Maddow much.

Oh right, that was Frankie.