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KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 09:59 PM
Free, on Spike TV. This is probably the biggest free UFC show yet. It's been expanded to a 3 hour show. Starts at 6:00 Central. (To be followed by the premier of the Ultimate Fighter, featuring Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and Forrest Griffin as coaches)

I'm pretty excited to see this. Here are the matchups.



Anthony Johnson Vs. Tommy Speer
Roman Mitichyan Vs. George Sotiropoulos
Samy Schiavo Vs. Clay Guida
Jeff Cox Vs. Manny Gamburyan
Ryan Roberts Vs. Marcus Aurelio
Josh Neer Vs. Din Thomas
Gray Maynard Vs. Frank Edgar
James Irvin Vs. Houston Alexander
Kurt Pellegrino Vs. Nate Diaz
Matt Hamill Vs. Tim Boetsch
Thiago Alves Vs. Karo Parisyan
Kenny Florian Vs. Joe Lauzon

KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 10:01 PM
April 2, 2008: The UFC returns to its roots and stages the deepest fight card the organization has ever put on free television - UFC Fight Night 13. The main event includes: Kenny Florian vs. Joe Lauzon and will be FREE on Spike TV!

UFC Fight Night 13 Preview - April 2008: Florian Vs. Lauzon On Spike TV!

By: Larry Pepe

November 12, 1993. McNichols Sports Arena in Denver, Colorado. The Ultimate Fighting Championship was born with, of course, UFC 1: The Beginning.

And now, on April 2, 2008, over 14 years later, the UFC returns to its roots when it stages the deepest fight card the organization has ever put on free television in its UFC Fight Night history on Spike TV.

In fact, the card is so jacked with Pay Per View quality fights that Spike expanded the normal two-hour broadcast to three full hours! When you look at the matchups for the televised event, you'll know why the Spike execs are very smart people!


Kenny Florian (9-3 MMA, 6-2 UFC)
vs.
Joe Lauzon (15-3 MMA, 3-0 UFC)



Florian's only loss at lightweight came at the hands of Sean Sherk in their title fight, a five-round war where he severely cut Sherk with his razor sharp elbows.

He also has fantastic Muay Thai and seems to improve with every outing. But Kenny's real strength is his incredible BJJ, which is among the best in the division, but clearly behind division champ BJ Penn, possibly the best BJJ practitioner in the world.

Ironically, Lauzon studies BJJ with Penn, so I am sure he will be as prepared as he can be to try to neutralize Kenny's skills and try to beat him at his own game.

Two of Joe's three wins have come by submission with the other being a stunning first round knockout of superstar Jens Pulver in Joe's UFC debut. He is also reputed to have freakish strength.

When it comes to the level of competition they are accustomed to facing, Joe has a significant disadvantage but seems to have an unshakable, "calm as a cucumber" demeanor that will serve him well here and in the future.

This has the potential to be an edge-of-your-seat battle from start to finish. Both are highly-conditioned, with Kenny have the edge in BJJ and elbow and knee strikes and Joe being close behind in those areas but the stronger of the two.

Joe's best chance of winning is using his strength to control the ground and display aggressive ground and pound and grind out a decision or a stoppage.

Given his aggressive striking and BJJ, Kenny is the more likely of the two to finish it early…but then again, how much has Joe learned from BJ Penn? I can't wait to find out!


Thiago Alves (18-4 MMA, 6-2 UFC)
vs.
Karo Parisyan (25-4 MMA, 8-2 UFC)



How does a guy go 6-2 in the UFC, 18-4 overall and have some highlight real finishes and go unnoticed? Ask Thiago Alves.

Part of it could be due to the packed welterweight division and Thiago will now have the chance to grab the spotlight when he steps up in competition to take on a judo expert and top-tier welterweight in Parysian.

Thiago is a great striker with strong BJJ and great conditioning. Karo, on the other hand, was the Grappling World Black Belt Judo International Champion, a Pan American judo silver medalist and a BJJ national champion.

He was supposed to fight then-champion Matt Hughes a few years ago and was sidelined by an injury and never made it back to the top of the division.

A loss here would surely have him go way back down the ladder. Additionally, eight of Karo's ten fights have gone the distance, which hasn't endeared him to the fans recently.

If he wants to please the fans and tries to stand with Thiago too much, he could end up asleep. He should rely on his world class judo throws and ground game and be very mindful of Thiago's explosiveness.

When it comes to the quality of opponents these two have met, Karo's resume is heads and tails over Thiago's, making this a proving ground for Thiago and a potential career-smasher for Karo if he loses. This has fight of the night potential written all over it. Let the fireworks begin.


Houston Alexander (8-1 MMA, 2-1 UFC)
vs.
James Irvin (13-4-1 MMA, 3-3 UFC)



Call this one the light heavyweight battle of two of the best built guys in the entire UFC. Houston Alexander is one bad dude and hits as hard as he looks like he would, which is saying something! Houston has vicious knockout power in both his hands and knees.

Just ask Keith Jardine (yes, he beat Chuck Liddell) who lasted a whopping 48 seconds before he didn't know what state he was in and former pro boxer turned MMA fighter Alessio Sakara, who lasted 13 seconds longer than Jardine.

However, there are two major issues with Houston. He was quickly submitted in his last fight by undefeated Thiago Silva, creating huge questions about his ground game and there's no way to tell if he has any conditioning if the fight gets out of the first round.

Alexander's opponent, James Irvin, is said to hit like the strongest of heavyweights. Two of his big UFC losses have come at the hands at superior BJJ practitioners, something he won't have to worry about against Houston.

Of course, Houston doesn't have worry too much about getting submitted by Irvin either as he clearly favors the power punching game. James is probably the more athletic and conditioned of the two and Houston the more aggressive, scary striker.

This is a let's swing for the fences matchup and should be a real crowd pleaser. My guess is that Houston will be a bit too much for James, but the longer it goes the better James' chances.


Tim Boetsch (7-1 MMA, 1-0 UFC)
vs.
Matt Hamill (5-1 MMA, 3-1 UFC)



Originally scheduled to be a fight based in reality TV between TUF alumni Staphan Bonnar and Matt Hamill, the former suffered an injury and the UFC went looking for an opponent. Meet Tim Boetsch, again.

Tim was a late replacement in his UFC debut, taking the fight on a few weeks notice and promptly TKO'd David Heath in the first round.

Boetsch was dominant, peppering Heath with front kicks and punches and literally tossing him on his head like a rag doll right before finishing him off. Tim is very strong, has good kicks and a solid wrestling background.

In Hamill he will be in the Octagon with a three-time NCAA national wrestling champion and two time world champion for freestyle wrestling.

As good as Tim looked, Matt has a huge edge in the wrestling department and showed improved striking in his only UFC loss, which was among the most controversial decisions in recent past.

He should have won the fight 29-28 and been 4-0 in his UFC career and clearly has something to prove here. Add in that this is Matt's first fight since having knee surgery, and he REALLY has something to prove.

One thing to watch for with Matt is that he sometimes takes time off in fights, probably due to conditioning. Will that be a factor here? Can Tim capitalize or is his condition suspect since we've only see him in a one-round fight? This light heavyweight clash is a case of strength against strength.


Nate Diaz (8-2 MMA, 3-0 UFC)
vs.
Kurt Pellegrino (17-3 MMA, 3-2 UFC)



Well, you gotta give the UFC credit…they aren't exactly waiting to test TUF lightweight champ Nate Diaz. Nate is an incredible Caesar Gracie trained Brazilian Jiu Jitsu expert who has submitted all three of his opponents in the UFC, none making it out of the first round.

At six feet tall, he will also have a significant height and reach advantage over Pellegrino, which could help land both knees and punches when the fight is standing, where I think he'll have an edge.

Pellegrino is a strong wrestler with great BJJ as well, so this could look like an absolute chess match when it hits the ground.

What Kurt gives up in height by four inches he gets back as the much stronger fighter between the two. One interesting subplot to this fight is that Hermes Franca, one of Kurt's trainers, scored a second round submission over Nate 18 months ago, so if anyone should have the game plan to beat Nate, you would think it would be Kurt. We'll soon find out.


Frankie Edgar (7-0 MMA, 3-0 UFC)
vs.
Gray Maynard (5-0-1 MMA, 2-0-1 UFC)



This battle of undefeated lightweights is the swing bout of the evening meaning that if one or more of the televised bouts end early and this one didn't go too long, fans will see it as part of the three-hour Spike special.

In my opinion, this fight was too good to ever leave off the main card in the first place, so let's hope we see it.

Edgar comes in to this fight on a three fight undefeated win streak in the UFC with two big name victories on his resume.

He debuted against then 8-0 rising star Tyson Griffin and promptly handed him his only loss with a unanimous decision. In his latest fight, he beat perennial contender Spencer Fisher, who was 21-2 at the time and on his way to a title shot.

Edgar is incredibly well-rounded, with great wrestling, superior striking and great condition. A win here could put him in a top contender fight with someone like Roger Huerta with the winner getting a title shot.

Like Edgar, Maynard is undefeated in the UFC at 2-0-1. The draw with Rob Emerson was a terrible decision, so he really should be 3-0.

He is a great wrestler, with a strength edge over Edgar, but Frankie has the edge on the feet. Let's call conditioning a draw and we have a real fight on our hands.

The difference? Maynard has never fought anyone even remotely in Edgar's league while two of Frankie's wins have come over guys who would be easy favorites over Maynard. I'd have to give Edgar the edge here.

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KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 10:11 PM
For anyone who's curious about mixed martial arts... I highly recommend watching this.

There are some excellent fighters on this card.

I'm hoping Lauzon can pull out a win vs Florian. I like both fighters, but Lauzon looks like a psychotic high school kid. At first glance, I'd think I could kick his ass... but he's actually amazingly tough. The kid's an animal.

Florian's way more experienced though, and he has nasty elbows. He's known for causing cuts with them.

Gonna be fun.

KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 11:07 PM
bump

Demonpenz
03-30-2008, 11:08 PM
thanks immaculate

KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 11:10 PM
thanks immaculateHeh, I love this shit. I'm just trying to let people know it's on. (and free!)

I plan on keeping this on the front page 'till the fights are over.

keg in kc
03-30-2008, 11:12 PM
Anybody who's the least interested in MMA should watch Wednesday night. If fight night and TUF don't get you into UFC, then nothing will.

Demonpenz
03-30-2008, 11:13 PM
UFC would be better if they let each other have one weapon like a mace

KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 11:22 PM
UFC would be better if they let each other have one weapon like a maceThese guys don't need weapons... and it's not about killing a guy, it's about who's the better man physically. These guys train in so many styles of martial arts. You name it, there's a fighter out there who's got it.

The thing is, it's mixed martial arts. If a guy comes in as the best at one single thing (and that's all he's got), he usually gets crushed.

Check it out Wednesday night, D'Penz. If you dont like it, I'll buy you a case of beer.

keg in kc
03-30-2008, 11:27 PM
If you dont like it, I'll buy you a case of beer.Damn, give me that bet.

KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 11:28 PM
Damn, give me that bet.Heh, I already know you like it.

KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 11:29 PM
Plus, I know the 'Penz would be down with a case of Natty Light.

Spectre
03-30-2008, 11:32 PM
Great, another form of repressed homosexuality masked by violence.


Sign me up.

KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 11:34 PM
Great, another form of repressed homosexuality masked by violence.


Sign me up.Heh. You're a retard.

Wanna wrestle?

Rausch
03-30-2008, 11:34 PM
Plus, I know the 'Penz would be down with a case of Natty Light.

Natty light: an invisible lock on yer' booze that the enemy suffers for like a full-colon-WMD...

Rausch
03-30-2008, 11:35 PM
Heh. You're a retard.

Wanna wrestle?

ROFL

I really don't know why but this split me....friggen...nice...

Spectre
03-30-2008, 11:38 PM
Heh. You're a retard.

Wanna wrestle?

Get yourself tested down at the free clinic and we'll see what happens.


And don't get upset, I've seen your cousin and she almost certainly has some form of STD.

KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 11:43 PM
Check out these homos... Round 1

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KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 11:44 PM
Round 2

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Rausch
03-30-2008, 11:44 PM
Get yourself tested down at the free clinic and we'll see what happens.


And don't get upset, I've seen your cousin and she almost certainly has some form of STD.

My bad...:eek:

KcMizzou
03-30-2008, 11:44 PM
Round 3

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Rausch
03-30-2008, 11:48 PM
Check out these homos... Round 1


Sloppy n00bs.

Fight chum...

Iowanian
03-31-2008, 10:27 AM
I wasn't aware this was coming up so soon.

I enjoy TUF and this is indeed a great card, especially for free.

badgirl
03-31-2008, 11:16 AM
My boyfriend has gotten me into watching UFC and Pride, I have to say my favorite fighter is Dan Henderson.

Iowanian
03-31-2008, 11:57 AM
For some reason, I'm not surprised badgranny is a fan of the mount-Ground and pounding.

badgirl
03-31-2008, 12:02 PM
hey wouldn't want to surprise anyone...

luv
03-31-2008, 12:17 PM
I saw a thing on TV the other day about a junior division. They were interviewing a woman whose boys are 8 and 10. How young do you think too young is to participate in something like this? I know there are martial arts and such, but this is like actual fist fighting, right?

badgirl
03-31-2008, 12:18 PM
its a combination of mixed martial arts. Not like straight up street fighting.

raybec 4
03-31-2008, 12:19 PM
Hey KcMizzou did you get to see the Marshall vs Stann WEc fight last week?

I think the James Irvin Houston Alexender fight will be just about the same thing. Somebody is gettin' knocked the f*ck out!!

raybec 4
03-31-2008, 12:21 PM
I saw a thing on TV the other day about a junior division. They were interviewing a woman whose boys are 8 and 10. How young do you think too young is to participate in something like this? I know there are martial arts and such, but this is like actual fist fighting, right?

The juniors have to wear protective pads and heavier gloves. No different than youth boxing or wrestling really.

Delano
03-31-2008, 12:21 PM
Are all of these fights going to be aired?

raybec 4
03-31-2008, 12:23 PM
Are all of these fights going to be aired?

The show is 3 hours so if not all of them only a couple will be left off.

BIG_DADDY
03-31-2008, 01:13 PM
Great, another form of repressed homosexuality masked by violence.


Sign me up.


What a douchebag.

BigVE
03-31-2008, 02:41 PM
Been looking forward to this for a while. FREE is for me. I'm curious to see M. Hamill's progress. Nate Diaz is a BJJ freak so this will be another great matchup for him. Florian vs. Lauzon should be a great match as well. Many others, all worth watching.

raybec 4
03-31-2008, 02:48 PM
Been looking forward to this for a while. FREE is for me. I'm curious to see M. Hamill's progress. Nate Diaz is a BJJ freak so this will be another great matchup for him. Florian vs. Lauzon should be a great match as well. Many others, all worth watching.

Nate is a bjj stud but I can't stand him or his stupid ass brother. I'm thinking Pelligrino is going to give him all he wants. He trains with American Top Team and they are all very well rounded. I hope Lauzon beats Florian like he stole something.

BIG_DADDY
03-31-2008, 04:40 PM
Nate is a bjj stud but I can't stand him or his stupid ass brother. I'm thinking Pelligrino is going to give him all he wants. He trains with American Top Team and they are all very well rounded. I hope Lauzon beats Florian like he stole something.


Why wouldn't you like the Diaz brothers?

BigVE
03-31-2008, 05:12 PM
Nate is a bjj stud but I can't stand him or his stupid ass brother. I'm thinking Pelligrino is going to give him all he wants. He trains with American Top Team and they are all very well rounded. I hope Lauzon beats Florian like he stole something.


I will put $50 casino cash on Nate Diaz if you want.

ArrowheadHawk
03-31-2008, 06:02 PM
That is a pretty awesome lineup for free. The only thing that was better was when they put a title fight on tv for free.

KcMizzou
03-31-2008, 06:07 PM
Hey KcMizzou did you get to see the Marshall vs Stann WEc fight last week?
Yep, that was great. I was rooting for Stann, never cared for Marshall all that much.

He did show a lot of class though... fastening the belt around Stann's waist. I was surprised.

KcMizzou
03-31-2008, 06:09 PM
I hope Lauzon beats Florian like he stole something.Me too. I don't really have anything against Florian, I just really like Lauzon.

ArrowheadHawk
03-31-2008, 06:09 PM
Yep, that was great. I was rooting for Stann, never cared for Marshall all that much.

He did show a lot of class though... fastening the belt around Stann's waist. I was surprised.
Isn't that like watching minor league baseball? I just don't have the time or energy to follow anything else besides the UFC.

KcMizzou
03-31-2008, 06:13 PM
Isn't that like watching minor league baseball? I just don't have the time or energy to follow anything else besides the UFC.It depends. You do get some poor fights, but there are some excellent ones too. For example, Faber vs. Pulver is coming up soon. That's one I wouldn't miss.

I watch it all. EliteXC/Strikefore, WEC, IFL, UFC... I don't care, as long as it's an entertaining fight.

raybec 4
03-31-2008, 10:01 PM
I will put $50 casino cash on Nate Diaz if you want.

You're on!!

raybec 4
03-31-2008, 10:05 PM
Why wouldn't you like the Diaz brothers?

I think they are just a couple of punk ass bitches!! Nate hasn't beaten anyone yet and Nick is too gat dam stupid to stop smoking weed 30 days before a fight so he can pass the post fight drug test.

Now he goes and gets himself a cannibus club card in Cal. and that's supposed to make all of the governing bodies change their rules? He's a douche.

Third Eye
04-01-2008, 12:51 AM
I'll watch it, but Karo is the only fighter of the bunch I would actually pay to see.

ArrowheadHawk
04-01-2008, 10:37 AM
I'll watch it, but Karo is the only fighter of the bunch I would actually pay to see.Ok, whatever. This fight card is awesome.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 10:40 AM
I think they are just a couple of punk ass bitches!! Nate hasn't beaten anyone yet and Nick is too gat dam stupid to stop smoking weed 30 days before a fight so he can pass the post fight drug test.

Now he goes and gets himself a cannibus club card in Cal. and that's supposed to make all of the governing bodies change their rules? He's a douche.

That's not accurate. He got kicked out of his Strikeforce fight by the California State Athletic Commission even though he was willing to take the urine test and pass it. He was never givent hat opportunity. They kicked him out anyway with the sorry ass excuse that they didn't have time enough to review everything. Nick has taken more shit for no good reason than any fighter I can remember. Stripping him of that awesome win over Gomi was a straight up crime. The way the UFC has treated him stinks although that may change. I don't even have words for the CSAC. Both these guys are young warriors that just want to fight. I can understand why you might say that they are not your favorite fighters but to say you can't stand them is pretty ridiculous IMO.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5990&zoneid=1

suds79
04-01-2008, 11:25 AM
Oh wow James Irvin Vs. Houston Alexander?

Somebody is getting knocked the F out. That should be entertaining.

Iowanian
04-01-2008, 11:28 AM
Why wouldn't you like the Diaz brothers?


I hate nick diaz...he's an effing punk. I really enjoy watching him get the feces stomped out of him. Nate is a punk too imo, but not as intollerable.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 11:34 AM
I hate nick diaz...he's an effing punk. I really enjoy watching him get the feces stomped out of him. Nate is a punk too imo, but not as intollerable.


OK, forgive me for asking but why is he a punk?

raybec 4
04-01-2008, 11:36 AM
That's not accurate. He got kicked out of his Strikeforce fight by the California State Athletic Commission even though he was willing to take the urine test and pass it. He was never givent hat opportunity. They kicked him out anyway with the sorry ass excuse that they didn't have time enough to review everything. Nick has taken more shit for no good reason than any fighter I can remember. Stripping him of that awesome win over Gomi was a straight up crime. The way the UFC has treated him stinks although that may change. I don't even have words for the CSAC. Both these guys are young warriors that just want to fight. I can understand why you might say that they are not your favorite fighters but to say you can't stand them is pretty ridiculous IMO.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5990&zoneid=1

Ok, so what part is not accurate? I fully agree that he beat the dog shit out of Gomi. He also failed the drug test afterwards. He is a super tough, ultra talented fighter. That doesn't make him any less of a dumbass. The point where I realized I couldn't stand him was after Diego Sanchez beat him, he stated that he still didn't think Diego belonged in the UFC. I have no clue what Dana White has agianst him but I do know that it has apparently carried over to the CSAC.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 11:49 AM
Ok, so what part is not accurate? I fully agree that he beat the dog shit out of Gomi. He also failed the drug test afterwards. He is a super tough, ultra talented fighter. That doesn't make him any less of a dumbass. The point where I realized I couldn't stand him was after Diego Sanchez beat him, he stated that he still didn't think Diego belonged in the UFC. I have no clue what Dana White has agianst him but I do know that it has apparently carried over to the CSAC.

I thought you were talking about the most recent fight not Gomi. I realize he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer but his discipline from diet to martial arts to also doing triathlons and his warrior mentality is off the charts. He doesn't deserve anywhere near the grief he has received. He will be around for a long tome too. I think he is only like 24. He is still a ways from his full potential.

**** the CSAC.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 11:53 AM
I'll say this much about Diaz.

1. Awesome talent.
2. Awesome mentality.
3. Always in shape for a fight even on short notice.
4. Always gives you 1000% You know he is always going to try and destroy his opponent and totally dominate. There is no fighting to just win by points when Nick fights.

I can't ask any more from an MMA fighter.

Demonpenz
04-01-2008, 11:57 AM
These guys don't need weapons... and it's not about killing a guy, it's about who's the better man physically. These guys train in so many styles of martial arts. You name it, there's a fighter out there who's got it.

The thing is, it's mixed martial arts. If a guy comes in as the best at one single thing (and that's all he's got), he usually gets crushed.

Check it out Wednesday night, D'Penz. If you dont like it, I'll buy you a case of beer.


No need for the beer I have seen alot of fights.
I watched one over the summer I can't remember the dudes name tall mexican looking guy. It is good stuff but I watch hockey, nascar golf and the other sports I don't have the time to follow it but it is Def more marketable and more fun to watch than boxing. The guy I am talking about was the dude that kicked Cro Cop with a round house. There are plenty of local fights here and in St joe that is for sure.

raybec 4
04-01-2008, 11:58 AM
I'll say this much about Diaz.

1. Awesome talent.
2. Awesome mentality.
3. Always in shape for a fight even on short notice.
4. Always gives you 1000% You know he is always going to try and destroy his opponent and totally dominate. There is no fighting to just win by points when Nick fights.

I can't ask any more from an MMA fighter.

As much as I want to, I can't argue any of those points. If he could get his poop in a group and get back in the good graces of Zuffa he could be the flag bearer at 170lbs for the UFC. He just doesn't have the marketable personality that they want.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 12:06 PM
As much as I want to, I can't argue any of those points. If he could get his poop in a group and get back in the good graces of Zuffa he could be the flag bearer at 170lbs for the UFC. He just doesn't have the marketable personality that they want.


That and he won't kiss Dana's ass. Dana is real big on brown nosers. I like that about him as well. I think he is going to be great for the Elite XC. We need like 3 leagues now so that people have the ability to fight, get better and move up. UFC just doesn't come close to taking care of all that even with their other league. BTW WEC match between Jens Pulver -vs- Uriah Faber should be great. The sport is growing by leaps and bounds. I just got back from competing in the Pan American Games in jiu-Jitsu this weekend. You would not believe how many people were there. It was friggen amazing. It is a great time we are living in watching the developement of MMA. I just wish I could go back to being 6 again and start all over instead of being a crusty old cremudgeon trying to keep up with these kids.

Third Eye
04-01-2008, 01:19 PM
Ok, whatever. This fight card is awesome.

Well considering there are only 2 fighters ranked in the top 10 (by Sherdog) of any of their respective weight classes (Karo 7th at welterweight, and Frank Edgar 10th at lightweight), I would say this card is light on substance. Don't get me wrong, I'm still going to watch. However, if they put it on pay-per-view and charged 40-50 bucks there is no way I would pay for it.

Demonpenz
04-01-2008, 01:26 PM
I would love a case of natty with pro wrestling
Jack and cokes for UFC
Busch light for nascar
Miller light for Dave matthews band concert
Jim beam for 38 special concert

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 01:32 PM
Well considering there are only 2 fighters ranked in the top 10 (by Sherdog) of any of their respective weight classes (Karo 7th at welterweight, and Frank Edgar 10th at lightweight), I would say this card is light on substance. Don't get me wrong, I'm still going to watch. However, if they put it on pay-per-view and charged 40-50 bucks there is no way I would pay for it.

There are a lot of up and comers on that card. I'll bet this is one of the more enjoyable events they have put on to watch. I have a guy who delivers me the DVD of the fights the next day anyway on PPV. I rarely pay unless I am having to boys over for a bash.

raybec 4
04-01-2008, 01:49 PM
About half of these fights have the potential to be all out wars. IMO this is the best MMA card that's ever been on free TV.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 01:57 PM
About half of these fights have the potential to be all out wars. IMO this is the best MMA card that's ever been on free TV.

Agreed!!!

Bill Lundberg
04-01-2008, 02:26 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing how Neer does at 155. He hasn't fought since October and I know he'll be looking to make a splash after being out of the UFC for so long. He is a HUGE 155 lber. Din Thomas is no slouch, this could be one of the wars you're talking about, too bad it most likely won't be televised.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 02:35 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing how Neer does at 155. He hasn't fought since October and I know he'll be looking to make a splash after being out of the UFC for so long. He is a HUGE 155 lber. Din Thomas is no slouch, this could be one of the wars you're talking about, too bad it most likely won't be televised.

Of course it will be televised. It's the 7th fight in a 3 hour time slot.

Bill Lundberg
04-01-2008, 02:51 PM
Of course it will be televised. It's the 7th fight in a 3 hour time slot.

I hope you're right, but usually these shows end up being 2 hours of commercials...

raybec 4
04-01-2008, 03:03 PM
Of course it will be televised. It's the 7th fight in a 3 hour time slot.

Man, I hope you're right I really like Din Thomas and Josh Neer both.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 03:07 PM
I hope you're right, but usually these shows end up being 2 hours of commercials...

If they can't show at least 7 fights in 3 hours then I will record everything in the future. I need a TIVO anyway I hate advertisements. What a waste of time especially on shows like this where they show the same damn one a bizzillion times.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 03:08 PM
Man, I hope you're right I really like Din Thomas and Josh Neer both.

I really want to see that fight too.

Duck Dog
04-01-2008, 03:15 PM
I hope Pellegrino beats Diaz. I can't stand him or his brother. But I'm really excited to see Serra vs. St Pierre 2. It's not that I dislike the frog ..err. I mean GRSt.P, but I think Serra's cool as hell.

Duck Dog
04-01-2008, 03:16 PM
If they can't show at least 7 fights in 3 hours then I will record everything in the future. I need a TIVO anyway I hate advertisements. What a waste of time especially on shows like this where they show the same damn one a bizzillion times.

Plus all the fluff in between fights.

Iowanian
04-01-2008, 03:16 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing how Neer does at 155. He hasn't fought since October and I know he'll be looking to make a splash after being out of the UFC for so long. He is a HUGE 155 lber. Din Thomas is no slouch, this could be one of the wars you're talking about, too bad it most likely won't be televised.


I sure hope it is...its one of the fights I'd like to see. I'll be pulling for the Pride of Iowa boy.

Has he been hurt or fighting in another assn?

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 03:18 PM
I hope Pellegrino beats Diaz. I can't stand him or his brother. But I'm really excited to see Serra vs. St Pierre 2. It's not that I dislike the frog ..err. I mean GRSt.P, but I think Serra's cool as hell.

Alright I am not going down this Diaz road again. You would think these two had banged everyone's mother with all the love they get around here.

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 03:21 PM
I sure hope it is...its one of the fights I'd like to see. I'll be pulling for the Pride of Iowa boy.

Has he been hurt or fighting in another assn?

One of the things I did recently was sign up for Netflix. I have a buddy record the fights but even on PPV they don't show them all. When they come out on DVD they have all of them. I just order from Netflix and record the whole delio a few weeks later and have it to go back to when I want. Doesn't cost jack I pay $8.99 a month for like 8 movies or PPV events like this.

BigVE
04-01-2008, 03:25 PM
Good idea BD. As for the Diaz bro's...usually when people are hating or jealous it's because someone is good at what they do. These guys are very very good. I have been Diaz fan for a while...why? Do I know them personally??? Heck no. I like the way they fight, the little Diaz is an excellent at BJJ and makes his matches all worth watching IMO. I Dont know any of these guys personally.

Bill Lundberg
04-01-2008, 03:27 PM
I sure hope it is...its one of the fights I'd like to see. I'll be pulling for the Pride of Iowa boy.

Has he been hurt or fighting in another assn?

He has been doing some small shows here and there. He does some promoting of his own. He also recently became a father so I'm sure that has kept him closer to home lately. He still trains at Militich as far as I know. He had a great win over Paul Rodriguez back in July.

For those who don't know who Paul Rodriguez is, he is a tough fighter. He knocked out Dennis Hallman, who is known for being the only fighter beat some scrub named Matt Hughes twice.

Good article on him here.

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=11085

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 03:29 PM
Good idea BD. As for the Diaz bro's...usually when people are hating or jealous it's because someone is good at what they do. These guys are very very good. I have been Diaz fan for a while...why? Do I know them personally??? Heck no. I like the way they fight, the little Diaz is an excellent at BJJ and makes his matches all worth watching IMO. I Dont know any of these guys personally.


I am a little bias. I get to see these two in the jiu-jitsu tournaments out here and watch them develope. I don't think they will do any more though.

Iowanian
04-01-2008, 03:44 PM
They strike me as the type of punks that would rob you at gunpoint when the benjamins aren't there.

I'll refer my opinion to the way Nick Diaz acted after Diego Sanchez beat his ass. He was a complete punk about it.

BigVE
04-01-2008, 03:52 PM
They strike me as the type of punks that would rob you at gunpoint when the benjamins aren't there.

I'll refer my opinion to the way Nick Diaz acted after Diego Sanchez beat his ass. He was a complete punk about it.
I missed that one...what did he do?

Bill Lundberg
04-01-2008, 03:54 PM
I actually like both Diaz boys for the way they fight. I don't even mind the smack talking. Nick was pissed off after losing to Diego because in my opinion he won that fight. I'd love to see a rematch. I think Nick would destroy him

BIG_DADDY
04-01-2008, 03:56 PM
They strike me as the type of punks that would rob you at gunpoint when the benjamins aren't there.

They are not like that at all. The system they came up in is pretty rough and is very in your face, I think they are just a by product of that. I trained with Ralph for awhile, it's the same thing.


I'll refer my opinion to the way Nick Diaz acted after Diego Sanchez beat his ass. He was a complete punk about it.

Never saw the interview. As a fighter though he brings what I want to the table. I know Nick isn't a mental giant. The real young guys that come up through systems like that have that really arrogant air about them. That's why you don't see a lot of them at the big tournaments like the Pan Am's, they seem to be kind of outcasts I guess. Neither Cesar or Ralph showed at the tournament at all they would just rather have their own. Some of their students were there but we had more guys fighting and are not as big. We also dominated more. I like the mentality of the guys I am with right now. I gotta tell you I have a lot of respect for Ralph and Cesar though in spite of those things. They were always very good to me. Their guys will all thrown down at the drop of a hat.

Third Eye
04-01-2008, 04:22 PM
Nick was pissed off after losing to Diego because in my opinion he won that fight.

I completely agree. That was a really poor decision in my mind and I felt just like Nick did, i.e. that the TUF fighters were getting preferential treatment.

Iowanian
04-01-2008, 04:41 PM
I don't deny that they both fight hard...they're both tough and Nate has great a ground game.

There is just something about the way they carry themselves that makes it difficult for me to like them.....I suppose its the same reason I don't like Floyd Mayweather. I tend to root for guys like Joe Lauzon or forest griffith.

Duck Dog
04-02-2008, 07:22 AM
I don't deny that they both fight hard...they're both tough and Nate has great a ground game.

There is just something about the way they carry themselves that makes it difficult for me to like them.....I suppose its the same reason I don't like Floyd Mayweather. I tend to root for guys like Joe Lauzon or forest griffith.

I agree completely. Some people are likable and some aren't. Take a guy like Serra, he has a big ego and likes to talk, but to me doesn't come off unlikable. Nothing personal against the Diaz bro's but I just hope that every time they step into the octagon they kick their ass kicked.

Don't get started on Mayweather, that guy is a prick.

ArrowheadHawk
04-02-2008, 07:55 AM
I like Nate but don't like Nick.

ArrowheadHawk
04-02-2008, 03:11 PM
Time for a Bump. Less than 2 hours from showtime.

Pestilence
04-02-2008, 03:13 PM
Time for a Bump. Less than 2 hours from showtime.

Son of a bitch! I forgot to set my DVR. Any word on a replay?

ArrowheadHawk
04-02-2008, 03:15 PM
Son of a bitch! I forgot to set my DVR. Any word on a replay?Haven't heard but there usually is one.

BigVE
04-02-2008, 03:19 PM
Woo! Thanks for the heads up...I knew it was tonite but didn't realize it was at 6 pm central time, thought it was at 7.

ArrowheadHawk
04-02-2008, 03:19 PM
Here is what TVGuide.com says though.

<table class="tvlistings-table" border="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>SPIKE </td><td class="tvlistings-datetime">Thu, Apr 3
12:00 AM</td><td>UFC Fight Night</td><td class="tvlistings-getmore">Record with TiVo (http://www.tvguide.com/RemoteRecording/SessionStart.aspx?channelnumber=&channel=SPIKE&sourceid=425&programid=7663601&airtime=4%2f3%2f2008+4%3a00%3a00+AM&duration=180&title=UFC+Fight+Night&isOneTimeShow=True&ReturnURL=%2fdetail%2ftv-show.aspx%3fid%3d7663601)</td></tr><tr><td>SPIKE </td><td class="tvlistings-datetime">Sun, Apr 6
1:30 PM</td><td>UFC Fight Night</td><td class="tvlistings-getmore">Record with TiVo (http://www.tvguide.com/RemoteRecording/SessionStart.aspx?channelnumber=&channel=SPIKE&sourceid=425&programid=7663601&airtime=4%2f6%2f2008+5%3a30%3a00+PM&duration=180&title=UFC+Fight+Night&isOneTimeShow=True&ReturnURL=%2fdetail%2ftv-show.aspx%3fid%3d7663601)</td></tr><tr><td>SPIKE </td><td class="tvlistings-datetime">Tue, Apr 8
7:00 PM</td><td>UFC Fight Night</td><td class="tvlistings-getmore">Record with TiVo (http://www.tvguide.com/RemoteRecording/SessionStart.aspx?channelnumber=&channel=SPIKE&sourceid=425&programid=7663601&airtime=4%2f8%2f2008+11%3a00%3a00+PM&duration=180&title=UFC+Fight+Night&isOneTimeShow=True&ReturnURL=%2fdetail%2ftv-show.aspx%3fid%3d7663601)</td></tr></tbody></table>

ArrowheadHawk
04-02-2008, 03:21 PM
Woo! Thanks for the heads up...I knew it was tonite but didn't realize it was at 6 pm central time, thought it was at 7.7 Eastern. :p

BigVE
04-02-2008, 03:50 PM
Just a reminder to raybec...we got money on the line tonite!!


Quote:
Originally Posted by BigVE
I will put $50 casino cash on Nate Diaz if you want.


Raybec4:

You're on!!

Pestilence
04-02-2008, 04:02 PM
Here is what TVGuide.com says though.

<table class="tvlistings-table" border="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>SPIKE </td><td class="tvlistings-datetime">Thu, Apr 3
12:00 AM</td><td>UFC Fight Night</td><td class="tvlistings-getmore">Record with TiVo (http://www.tvguide.com/RemoteRecording/SessionStart.aspx?channelnumber=&channel=SPIKE&sourceid=425&programid=7663601&airtime=4%2f3%2f2008+4%3a00%3a00+AM&duration=180&title=UFC+Fight+Night&isOneTimeShow=True&ReturnURL=%2fdetail%2ftv-show.aspx%3fid%3d7663601)</td></tr><tr><td>SPIKE </td><td class="tvlistings-datetime">Sun, Apr 6
1:30 PM</td><td>UFC Fight Night</td><td class="tvlistings-getmore">Record with TiVo (http://www.tvguide.com/RemoteRecording/SessionStart.aspx?channelnumber=&channel=SPIKE&sourceid=425&programid=7663601&airtime=4%2f6%2f2008+5%3a30%3a00+PM&duration=180&title=UFC+Fight+Night&isOneTimeShow=True&ReturnURL=%2fdetail%2ftv-show.aspx%3fid%3d7663601)</td></tr><tr><td>SPIKE </td><td class="tvlistings-datetime">Tue, Apr 8
7:00 PM</td><td>UFC Fight Night</td><td class="tvlistings-getmore">Record with TiVo (http://www.tvguide.com/RemoteRecording/SessionStart.aspx?channelnumber=&channel=SPIKE&sourceid=425&programid=7663601&airtime=4%2f8%2f2008+11%3a00%3a00+PM&duration=180&title=UFC+Fight+Night&isOneTimeShow=True&ReturnURL=%2fdetail%2ftv-show.aspx%3fid%3d7663601)</td></tr></tbody></table>

Looks like I'll just record the midnight showing tonight.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 04:46 PM
Woo! Thanks for the heads up...I knew it was tonite but didn't realize it was at 6 pm central time, thought it was at 7.Yeah, I screwed up the time zones. Sorry about that. Hope nobody misses the first hour thanks to me. :redface:

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 05:03 PM
Go Lauzon, Boetsch, Diaz, and Guida. :rockon:

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 05:05 PM
Alexander vs. Irvin is up first.

Going for fireworks right off the bat, I guess...

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 05:12 PM
Holy crap! That was quick.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 05:16 PM
KO 8 seconds in... tied for the fastest in UFC history.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 05:20 PM
Diaz / Pellegrino up next.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 05:27 PM
Cutler's there.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 05:29 PM
Damn

SPchief
04-02-2008, 05:36 PM
What a comeback by Diaz

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 05:36 PM
HUGE comeback by Diaz!

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 05:37 PM
What a comeback by DiazI honestly didn't think he was going to make it out of round 1.

He took some nasty shots.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 05:38 PM
I honestly didn't think he was going to make it out of round 1.

He took some nasty shots.

The way he was bleeding, I didn't think he had a chance.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 05:40 PM
The way he was bleeding, I didn't think he had a chance.He knew he had it the second he got the triangle in too.

At this rate, we'll see most if not all of the card...lol

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 05:54 PM
Matt Hamill Vs. Tim Boetsch next...

I don't really think Boetsch will win, but I'm rooting for him.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 06:03 PM
Pretty even first round

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:04 PM
Pretty even first roundYeah, Boetsch needs to keep it standing. I think even he knows he's not in Hamill's class on the ground.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 06:06 PM
Dumb mistake by Boetsch will cost him the fight.



It's over.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:06 PM
Bah... he just completely gassed.

Oh well... Congrats, Hamill.

BigVE
04-02-2008, 06:08 PM
HUGE comeback by Diaz!

Cha ching for me. Where you at raybec 4?????

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:10 PM
Cha ching for me. Where you at raybec 4?????You were watching that, right? Impressive. I thought Diaz was done.

BigVE
04-02-2008, 06:11 PM
Hamils LIP IS NASTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:12 PM
Hamill's pure class.

BigVE
04-02-2008, 06:12 PM
You were watching that, right? Impressive. I thought Diaz was done.
No doubt. Diaz has done that a few times, some call it luck but really that takes some serious guts/talent to hang in there when your about done in.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:17 PM
No doubt. Diaz has done that a few times, some call it luck but really that takes some serious guts/talent to hang in there when your about done in.

Yeah, you've gotta a respect a guy who can take a beating like that and come back to win. Doesn't mean you have to like him, I guess... but if you don't respect his toughness and talent, you're just being a hater.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:18 PM
Thiago Alves Vs. Karo Parisyan up next.

I'm pulling for Alves in this one.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:32 PM
Woooo!!! Hell yeah.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 06:32 PM
That was crap

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:33 PM
If that stoppage was premature, Alexander's damn well was too.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 06:37 PM
If that stoppage was premature, Alexander's damn well was too.


After watching the replay, I think it was the right call.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:37 PM
I'd have let both fights go a bit longer...

That said... Karo gets on my nerves, so I may be a little biased on this one.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:38 PM
After watching the replay, I think it was the right call.Yeah... those punches were getting through more than I originally though.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:41 PM
Forrest is awesome. Hard not to like that guy.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:46 PM
Anthony Johnson Vs. Tommy Speer up next

Rooting for Speer. I'll be honest... only because I know him from TUF. Seems like a good guy... farm boy. Go Tommy.

(Don't know the other guy)

SPchief
04-02-2008, 06:50 PM
DAMN

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:50 PM
Holy shit!!!... I guess I know Anthony Johnson now.

Sorry about that, sir.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:51 PM
That guy's a beast.

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 06:51 PM
I'm guessing something bad just happened to Speer.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 06:52 PM
I'm guessing something bad just happened to Speer.




If you mean bad like getting his ass handed to him, yeah it was bad.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 06:53 PM
This kid is gonna be good I think.

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 06:54 PM
If you mean bad like getting his ass handed to him, yeah it was bad.Strength only gets you so far. He's got a lot of training to do if he's going to amount to anything as a fighter. At least that was my thought the last time I saw him get his ass kicked.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:55 PM
This kid is gonna be good I think.Hell yeah. Speer's no punk, he's a tough guy. He was just overwhelmed from the start there...

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:56 PM
Gray Maynard Vs. Frankie Edgar up next..

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 06:58 PM
C'mon Maynard

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 06:59 PM
I can't believe you sick f*ckers and your glorification of violence, watching this garbage.

Damn, that ring girl is hot.

Oh, wait.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 07:00 PM
Does he have a tramp stamp?

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 07:02 PM
I wonder how bad gsp's going to beat serra.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:05 PM
I wonder how bad gsp's going to beat serra.I soooo hope that Serra beats him again. Not because I hate GSP, Mainly because I like Serra and I'm sick of the "fluke" BS.

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 07:06 PM
Is it just me, or does Keanu Reeves seem like a really weird choice for a movie called "Street Kings"?

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 07:07 PM
I soooo hope that Serra beats him again. Not because I hate GSP, Mainly because I like Serra and I'm sick of the "fluke" BS.It looks to me like it finally 'clicked' for GSP, so I think he's going to have to have a really bad day to lose to anybody anytime soon.

But MMA's a different sport in that anybody can go down at any time.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:12 PM
It looks to me like it finally 'clicked' for GSP, so I think he's going to have to have a really bad day to lose to anybody anytime soon.

But MMA's a different sport in that anybody can go down at any time.Yeah... GSP's like a prototype of what you'd want in a fighter. But I like Serra, and that underdog role suites him.

Great fight going on, BTW... damn. Let's go Gray.

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 07:16 PM
This fight's maynard's to lose. That round might have been different if edgar's love-taps had had any power behind them. Too many take-downs.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:16 PM
Maynard by decision.... gotta be.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:24 PM
Cool. That's a big win for Maynard. He seems like a good guy.

Florian vs. Lauzon up next.

Rooting hard for Lauzon here...

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 07:26 PM
I still think Dana needs to build a 145-pound division in UFC, there's too much of a logjam at 155.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:28 PM
I still think Dana needs to build a 145-pound division in UFC, there's too much of a logjam at 155.I agree... and get Faber in the mix.

SPchief
04-02-2008, 07:31 PM
This should be a good fight.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:32 PM
This should be a good fight.WAR Lauzon!!! :rockon:

Sorry. :D

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:35 PM
LMAO "He lived on a farm with horses pigs and turkeys."

Well alright, then.

Bill Lundberg
04-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Neer beat Din Thomas in a unanimous decision 30-27!!! Big win for "The Dentist"!!!

SPchief
04-02-2008, 07:46 PM
What a round

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:46 PM
Wow.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:47 PM
What a round
This fight has potential...lol

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 07:48 PM
That certainly didn't suck.

I think your boy Joe got saved by the bell there.

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 07:49 PM
This is bad news for Lauzon.

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 07:51 PM
Lauzon's got him right where he wants, him, wearing him down.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:51 PM
Shit. :shake:

SPchief
04-02-2008, 07:51 PM
Over

keg in kc
04-02-2008, 07:52 PM
I don't see how this helps Lauzon (Rogan said that). He got destroyed in that second round.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:52 PM
Props to Florian. He's a badass. I was really hoping that would go the other way.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 07:53 PM
I don't see how this helps Lauzon (Rogan said that). He got destroyed in that second round.Yeah, I don't either.

KcMizzou
04-02-2008, 08:00 PM
TUF should be fun too.

MadMax
04-02-2008, 08:03 PM
I agree... and get Faber in the mix.



I agree, and that Faber kid is a damn good fighter...

Third Eye
04-02-2008, 08:08 PM
Props to Florian. He's a badass. I was really hoping that would go the other way.

I can't stand the hype that is Kenflo. I'll admit he looked great in the 2nd round, but he would get dismantled by any of the top level lightweights in the world, let alone the handful of good ones in the UFC.

unlurking
04-02-2008, 08:21 PM
I can't stand the hype that is Kenflo. I'll admit he looked great in the 2nd round, but he would get dismantled by any of the top level lightweights in the world, let alone the handful of good ones in the UFC.
heh, I still call him "AuntFlo".

Bill Lundberg
04-03-2008, 09:41 AM
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=11163

BROOMFIELD, CO, April 2 Lightweight contender Clay Guida promised wins and finishes in 2008 after a rough 2007 campaign that saw him lose three of four ultra-competitive fights, and he lived up to his word in his first bout of the year at the Broomfield Event Center Wednesday, stopping French newcomer Samy Schiavo in the first round of their UFC Fight Night preliminary bout.

2008 is the season of the W, said Guida.

After a tense first half of the opening round, Guida kicked off the second half with a double leg takedown of Schiavo, which was followed by some smothering ground and pound against the Octagon fence. With under 1:30 left, Guida worked his way into the mount position and looked to end matters, and by the 4:15 mark, he did, with referee Tim Mills halting the bout due to unanswered strikes.

With the win, Guida improves to 23-6; Schiavo falls to 10-5.

Josh Neer made a successful return to the UFC as a lightweight, pounding out a three round unanimous decision victory over Din Thomas.

Scores were 30-27 across the board for Neer, who ups his record to 24-6-1 in his first UFC fight since an August 2006 loss at welterweight to Nick Diaz; Thomas falls to 23-9.

Neer was effective with his striking early on as he stalked Thomas around the Octagon. Thomas fired back quick counters, prompting a takedown by Neer with under three minutes left. While on the mat, Neer tried to strike while Thomas looked for an opening for the submission. After the two reached a stalemate, they rose, this time with Thomas initiating the striking. As the round entered its final minute, Thomas scored his own takedown, landing in Neers guard. After a few moments, Thomas let Neer up, with the bell intervening shortly after.

In the second minute of round two, the toe-to-toe action heated up, with each man having their moments. With under three minutes left, Neer tripped Thomas up, but the Floridian worked his way up and briefly got his opponents back before winding up in Neers guard and then standing. By now, Neer seemed to be the fresher of the two and he was able to score another takedown which allowed him to score points with ground strikes in the moments before the round ended.

Neers leg kicks weakened Thomas in the opening seconds of the third round, bringing the fight to the mat, and allowing The Dentist to steadily grind away with punches and forearms. A right elbow to the head opened up a nasty gash under Thomas right eye, prompting a visit from the ringside physician. When the bout was restarted, Neer continued to pound away, with the two deciding to stand with just under two minutes to go. The standup exchange didnt last long, and the bout went back to the mat, allowing Neer to continue his ground assault and get the victory.

Marcus Aurelio was decisive and devastating in his opening round win over late replacement Ryan Roberts in a lightweight bout, taking just 16 seconds to up his record to 16-5.

A right hand by Aurelio dropped Roberts (14-3, 1 NC) hard to the canvas, and after a quick follow-up barrage came up empty, Maximus transitioned beautifully into an armbar, forcing an immediate tap from the Nebraskan, who was filling in for the injured Spencer Fisher.

Manvel The Anvil Gamburyan showed off his submission skills in the Octagon once again, following up his December win over Nate Mohr with a first round victory over Clevelands Jeff Cox in a lightweight contest.

After a kick to the body to start the fight, Gamburyan (10-3) immediately shot in for a takedown, but Cox (14-5) weathered the attack and got right back to his feet, pushing Gamburyan against the fence. 1:30 into the fight though,
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Gamburyan countered with a throw and quickly locked in a guillotine choke, ending the fight at the 1:41 mark.

The Ultimate Fighter sixs George Sotiropoulos nabbed his second straight UFC win without a loss, stopping tough fellow castmate Roman Mitichyan in the second round of their welterweight bout.

The fight began with bad-intentioned striking from both men, with an ensuing scramble seeing Sotiropoulos (9-2) emerge on Mitichyans back. With his hooks in, Sotiropoulos worked for a choke while firing off strikes, while Mitichyan (9-2) fought back impressively to escape from the precarious position moments later. Sotiropoulos kept the pressure on, again getting his opponents back with less than two minutes left in the round. Mitichyan again worked free, but this time he wound up on the bottom as Sotiropoulos fought for the Armenian battlers arm and then transitioned into the mount position just before the bell sounded.

Mitichyan opened the second by swinging for the fences, with Sotiropoulos easily eluding the haymakers and earning another takedown. After a few moments in side control, Sotiropoulos got to his foes back, but Mitichyan hung tough. With a little over three minutes left, Sotiropoulos got the mount position and fired away with both hands, and this time the assault was too much for Mitichyan to handle, prompting referee Adam Martinez to halt the bout at 2:24 of the round.

Budding welterweight star Anthony Johnson improved to 5-1 in the opener with an emphatic first round knockout win over The Ultimate Fighter season six finalist Tommy Speer.

Speer (9-3) was in trouble from the opening bell, getting jarred by practically everything Johnson threw, whether punches, kicks, or forearms at close range. Inevitably, Speer got rocked and put in deep trouble, and a furious assault by Johnson followed, with a right hand putting the Minnesotan down and out just 51 seconds into the bout.

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2008, 11:14 AM
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=11163

BROOMFIELD, CO, April 2 Lightweight contender Clay Guida promised wins and finishes in 2008 after a rough 2007 campaign that saw him lose three of four ultra-competitive fights, and he lived up to his word in his first bout of the year at the Broomfield Event Center Wednesday, stopping French newcomer Samy Schiavo in the first round of their UFC Fight Night preliminary bout.

2008 is the season of the W, said Guida.

After a tense first half of the opening round, Guida kicked off the second half with a double leg takedown of Schiavo, which was followed by some smothering ground and pound against the Octagon fence. With under 1:30 left, Guida worked his way into the mount position and looked to end matters, and by the 4:15 mark, he did, with referee Tim Mills halting the bout due to unanswered strikes.

With the win, Guida improves to 23-6; Schiavo falls to 10-5.

Josh Neer made a successful return to the UFC as a lightweight, pounding out a three round unanimous decision victory over Din Thomas.

Scores were 30-27 across the board for Neer, who ups his record to 24-6-1 in his first UFC fight since an August 2006 loss at welterweight to Nick Diaz; Thomas falls to 23-9.

Neer was effective with his striking early on as he stalked Thomas around the Octagon. Thomas fired back quick counters, prompting a takedown by Neer with under three minutes left. While on the mat, Neer tried to strike while Thomas looked for an opening for the submission. After the two reached a stalemate, they rose, this time with Thomas initiating the striking. As the round entered its final minute, Thomas scored his own takedown, landing in Neers guard. After a few moments, Thomas let Neer up, with the bell intervening shortly after.

In the second minute of round two, the toe-to-toe action heated up, with each man having their moments. With under three minutes left, Neer tripped Thomas up, but the Floridian worked his way up and briefly got his opponents back before winding up in Neers guard and then standing. By now, Neer seemed to be the fresher of the two and he was able to score another takedown which allowed him to score points with ground strikes in the moments before the round ended.

Neers leg kicks weakened Thomas in the opening seconds of the third round, bringing the fight to the mat, and allowing The Dentist to steadily grind away with punches and forearms. A right elbow to the head opened up a nasty gash under Thomas right eye, prompting a visit from the ringside physician. When the bout was restarted, Neer continued to pound away, with the two deciding to stand with just under two minutes to go. The standup exchange didnt last long, and the bout went back to the mat, allowing Neer to continue his ground assault and get the victory.

Marcus Aurelio was decisive and devastating in his opening round win over late replacement Ryan Roberts in a lightweight bout, taking just 16 seconds to up his record to 16-5.

A right hand by Aurelio dropped Roberts (14-3, 1 NC) hard to the canvas, and after a quick follow-up barrage came up empty, Maximus transitioned beautifully into an armbar, forcing an immediate tap from the Nebraskan, who was filling in for the injured Spencer Fisher.

Manvel The Anvil Gamburyan showed off his submission skills in the Octagon once again, following up his December win over Nate Mohr with a first round victory over Clevelands Jeff Cox in a lightweight contest.

After a kick to the body to start the fight, Gamburyan (10-3) immediately shot in for a takedown, but Cox (14-5) weathered the attack and got right back to his feet, pushing Gamburyan against the fence. 1:30 into the fight though,
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Gamburyan countered with a throw and quickly locked in a guillotine choke, ending the fight at the 1:41 mark.

The Ultimate Fighter sixs George Sotiropoulos nabbed his second straight UFC win without a loss, stopping tough fellow castmate Roman Mitichyan in the second round of their welterweight bout.

The fight began with bad-intentioned striking from both men, with an ensuing scramble seeing Sotiropoulos (9-2) emerge on Mitichyans back. With his hooks in, Sotiropoulos worked for a choke while firing off strikes, while Mitichyan (9-2) fought back impressively to escape from the precarious position moments later. Sotiropoulos kept the pressure on, again getting his opponents back with less than two minutes left in the round. Mitichyan again worked free, but this time he wound up on the bottom as Sotiropoulos fought for the Armenian battlers arm and then transitioned into the mount position just before the bell sounded.

Mitichyan opened the second by swinging for the fences, with Sotiropoulos easily eluding the haymakers and earning another takedown. After a few moments in side control, Sotiropoulos got to his foes back, but Mitichyan hung tough. With a little over three minutes left, Sotiropoulos got the mount position and fired away with both hands, and this time the assault was too much for Mitichyan to handle, prompting referee Adam Martinez to halt the bout at 2:24 of the round.

Budding welterweight star Anthony Johnson improved to 5-1 in the opener with an emphatic first round knockout win over The Ultimate Fighter season six finalist Tommy Speer.

Speer (9-3) was in trouble from the opening bell, getting jarred by practically everything Johnson threw, whether punches, kicks, or forearms at close range. Inevitably, Speer got rocked and put in deep trouble, and a furious assault by Johnson followed, with a right hand putting the Minnesotan down and out just 51 seconds into the bout.

Din Thomas knee was supposed to be majorly ****ed up going into this fight so I can see why the Dentist decided to be the cripler instead.

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2008, 11:16 AM
Two words for all you haters NATE DIAZ!!! LOL nlm

stlchiefs
04-03-2008, 11:49 AM
I agree, and that Faber kid is a damn good fighter...

The California Kid is awesome. I'd love to see him out there.

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2008, 12:00 PM
The California Kid is awesome. I'd love to see him out there.


They need him as an attraction for WEC for a bit longer. You will probably see him in the UFC at some point next year.

ArrowheadHawk
04-03-2008, 12:55 PM
Two words for all you haters NATE DIAZ!!! LOL nlm
Triangle!:clap: He has some sick submissions.

svuba
04-03-2008, 01:00 PM
Triangle!:clap: He has some sick submissions.



That was classic. The comeback kid. I have never seen somebody start celebrating as soon as they got the choke set. He was totaly confident that it was over!

raybec 4
04-03-2008, 01:09 PM
Two words for all you haters NATE DIAZ!!! LOL nlm

I'll give him his props, he got his ass kicked for a round and a half but he hung in and capitalized on a mistake. That showed a lot of heart and a real set of balls to start the victory celebration before the fight was over.

svuba
04-03-2008, 01:11 PM
I can't stand the hype that is Kenflo. I'll admit he looked great in the 2nd round, but he would get dismantled by any of the top level lightweights in the world, let alone the handful of good ones in the UFC.



Kenflo isn't flashy, but he is one tough mofo. I respect kenflo because he is such a freaking gamer. Did you see his fight against Sherk for the title?

He never gets dismantled. If you beat Florian you have been through a war!

Duck Dog
04-03-2008, 01:12 PM
Two words for all you haters NATE DIAZ!!! LOL nlm

Yeah, I can't believe he survived the utter ass beating he took in the first round.

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2008, 01:24 PM
Yeah, I can't believe he survived the utter ass beating he took in the first round.

Both Diaz brothers are tuff as hell. Real submission specialists. Gotta love the Gracie systems. My partner here missed Nick Diaz by one spot in a jiu-jitsu tourney 2 years ago.

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2008, 01:38 PM
Yeah, I can't believe he survived the utter ass beating he took in the first round.

I believe they call that gameness. :)

ArrowheadHawk
04-03-2008, 03:23 PM
I believe they call that gameness. :)
From wikipedia.

Game or Gameness is a quality of fighting dogs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dog_fighting_breeds) or working terriers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_terrier) that are selectively bred (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_breeding) and conditioned (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_exercise) from a very early age to develop traits of eagerness despite the threat of substantive injury. Dogs displaying this trait can also be described as persevering, ready and willing, full of fight, spirited, or plucky.

So I guess you are right.

Duck Dog
04-03-2008, 03:53 PM
Both Diaz brothers are tuff as hell. Real submission specialists. Gotta love the Gracie systems. My partner here missed Nick Diaz by one spot in a jiu-jitsu tourney 2 years ago.

Oh, I don't doubt their ability at all. He took a real pounding not once but twice. I thought the ref was going to stop it on the second one. No doubt, the kid is very tuff.

KcMizzou
04-03-2008, 06:30 PM
Two words for all you haters NATE DIAZ!!! LOL nlmThere's a thread on Sherdog suggesting he change his nickname to "The Stockton Strangler". I kinda like it. :D

BIG_DADDY
04-04-2008, 10:08 AM
There's a thread on Sherdog suggesting he change his nickname to "The Stockton Strangler". I kinda like it. :D

That's is pretty cool. LMAO I like Sherdog for picking up information. Those guys over there could go ballistic on each other over anything though. Great sight to stay on top of the sport though.

KcMizzou
04-05-2008, 03:33 PM
Check out the cheap-ass move Manny pulled as they went to touch gloves...

I thought he had more class than that.

:shake:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2387409761_7085d3048a_o.gif

Iowanian
04-06-2008, 06:46 AM
that is cheap.

For his next fight, I hope the opponent reaches out and pulls his arm off when he tries to touch gloves....maybe a japanese wizard and see what he thinks of them apples.