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OnTheWarpath58
04-01-2008, 05:32 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7978168?MSNHPHMA



ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Jay Cutler has had it with all the drama and headlines surrounding top target Brandon Marshall.

In his first offseason interview, one sprinkled with unusually blunt criticism, the Denver Broncos quarterback called out his No. 1 receiver and fellow third-year star who suffered a gash on his right forearm while horsing around last month.

"Yeah, he's not my favorite person right now," Cutler said. "I mean, I support him, but it's always something with him right now."

With Jeremy Bates taking over the Broncos' passing game, Cutler said Tuesday that it was imperative for Marshall to participate in all the offseason workouts, but he won't be back in action until training camp.

"We're going to be fine. I'm not that overly concerned about it, but it just would be nice coming into our third year, coming off a big year he had last year, for him to get more work done and get more time in and just a little more trust out there," Cutler said. "But it's going to take some time now, maybe training camp, maybe even longer."

Marshall, who emerged as Cutler's primary target during a breakout 2007 season, said he was horsing around with his older brother at a resort in Orlando, Fla., when he fell into a television set, cutting an artery, a vein, a nerve, two tendons and three muscles in his right arm.

Marshall has found himself in the news a lot lately. He faces a DUI charge stemming from an October incident and had a spat with his girlfriend last year that landed him in court. And he was partying with Darrent Williams the night the cornerback was slain in a drive-by shooting on Jan. 1, 2006. Former teammate Javon Walker said Marshall sprayed champagne on some bar patrons, sparking a confrontation that preceded the shooting, which remains unsolved.

"I've talked to him many times. I think a lot of people have. ... He knows he's running out of chances," Cutler said. "This wasn't like his DUI and other stuff he's had. It was an accident, but still, things like that can't happen. He knows it.

"But like I told him, I said, 'Brandon, they're going to quit giving you chances and you're going to have to go somewhere else. And that's going to be a shame."'

Marshall said last week that he realizes he has to grow up and that his freak injury was a wakeup call.

"His DUI was a wakeup call," Cutler retorted. "He's had many wakeup calls. I mean, he's been in (coach Mike) Shanahan's office many times. I've been up there with him. He said the same thing: 'This is a wakeup call. This is the last thing that's going to happen. Blah blah blah.' I mean, until he goes out and proves it, we'll see what happens."

Cutler wants to have trust in his No. 1 receiver.

"I love Brandon to death and he's a great kid at heart. I don't think he goes out there looking for trouble. He's not at bars late. He's not doing those things that other people do. It's just something about him. He's always into something," Cutler said. "Like I told him, 'I haven't lost faith in you. I'll still support you. But ... you're going to have to prove yourself this time."'

Marshall, a fourth-round draft choice in 2006 out of Central Florida, blossomed into the Broncos' best receiver last year, facilitating the recent release of Walker, who was replaced by free agent Keary Colbert.

Cutler isn't losing any sleep over the departure of the oft-injured and often cranky Walker, who signed with the rival Oakland Raiders.

"Javon's a great receiver, but Javon he likes the spotlight and he likes the ball coming to him a lot," Cutler said. "With Brandon and him out there it would be tough. You've got to have a No. 1 guy you want to go to. I think Brandon was going to be my guy. I don't know if Javon was going to be OK with 40, 50, 60 balls."

The free agent departure Cutler is fretting over is the loss of 15-year veteran kicker Jason Elam, who had four game-winning field goals last season and who signed with Atlanta for $3.3 million guaranteed money in 2008, nearly $1 million more than the cost-conscious Broncos were offering.

"I have a little worry about that," Cutler said. "I mean, one of the best clutch kickers in the game. Been here for that long. I was surprised to see we let him go."

Another concern for Cutler is left tackle, where Chris Kuper will get first crack at replacing the retired Matt Lepsis, who protected Cutler's blind side.

"It's a big position for me," Cutler said.

Rain Man
04-01-2008, 05:33 PM
Wow. So Brandon Marshall got Darrent Williams killed?

KurtCobain
04-01-2008, 05:35 PM
haha, the only thing the donks have going for them is falling apart. They should be more worried about whose throwing to their mess of a wr, because Cutler will be ran out of town by the denver media when he chokes away 2008.

vailpass
04-01-2008, 05:37 PM
Cutler is starting to act/talk like a leader that knows he owns his position. That's a good place for a 3rd year QB to be.

OnTheWarpath58
04-01-2008, 05:39 PM
Cutler is starting to act/talk like a leader that knows he owns his position. That's a good place for a 3rd year QB to be.

Agreed.

Fruit Ninja
04-01-2008, 05:41 PM
haha, the only thing the donks have going for them is falling apart. They should be more worried about whose throwing to their mess of a wr, because Cutler will be ran out of town by the denver media when he chokes away 2008.

He's going to be better then anythying we have had since Len Dawson. Excluding Joe Montana.

Cutler is going to be a good QB.

stlchiefs
04-01-2008, 05:43 PM
Wow. So Brandon Marshall got Darrent Williams killed?

That's what I was thinking. That's the first of anything I've heard describing WHY there was a confrontation. I've read there was a disagreement outside the club and the players left in the limo, but nothing more. If that's true you'd think this would hang heavy on Brandon's shoulders.

DaFace
04-01-2008, 05:53 PM
Cutler is starting to act/talk like a leader that knows he owns his position. That's a good place for a 3rd year QB to be.

Yup.

Mile High Mania
04-01-2008, 05:54 PM
haha, the only thing the donks have going for them is falling apart. They should be more worried about whose throwing to their mess of a wr, because Cutler will be ran out of town by the denver media when he chokes away 2008.

Now, if the Broncos only have 1 thing going for them (Marshall) and he's falling apart... how can Cutler (all on his own) just choke away 2008? :spock:

I think Marshall is a badass as a WR, but he's a jackass as a human by all accounts... I had heard the champagne story fairly recently. The guy really needs to change his life.

I do like Cutler's decision to put this out in the open as well... take the team by the horns and kick them in the balls if you need to do so.

Easy 6
04-01-2008, 06:01 PM
Gotta hand it to Cutler, he's not mincing words...were i a donk fan, i'd be very pleased to read this.

But since i most definitely am not a donk fan, its GREAT to see more strife & instability in that lockerroom, i think Brandon should call Pacman for some brotherly advice on how to best handle this...

Lastly, Darrent Williams was actually murdered for getting someone wet with champagne *shaky head*.

beach tribe
04-01-2008, 06:05 PM
yea, gotta hand it to Cutler.

the Talking Can
04-01-2008, 06:33 PM
lmao that they report him being wasted as "an accident"....

Bill S Preston
04-01-2008, 06:40 PM
CUntler is a bitch. If I was Marshall I would tell him to go **** himself.

Sure-Oz
04-01-2008, 06:53 PM
Those mcdonalds bags are deadly

HypnotizedMonkey
04-01-2008, 07:06 PM
broncofan that hooooo

KurtCobain
04-01-2008, 07:08 PM
Cutler is going to be a good QB.

My nutsack. He's gonna be a wash. Won't even be able to find backup QB work by 2013. Guarentee it.

BigRock
04-01-2008, 07:17 PM
I'm all for QBs speaking up and taking a stand and whatnot, but hot damn, Cutler ripped him a new asshole. There's a difference between just being a leader and flat out trashing your teammate. That part where he dismissed Marshall's "wake-up call" talk as the same old BS Marshall always spews was classic.

Marshall must be as popular as VD among the Donk players. I didn't realize the stuff about his role in the Darrent Williams situation until this latest McDonalds bag thing. How does Marshall even show his face in the locker room after being a major part of an incident that got a teammate killed and then continuing to get in trouble in the time since then?

Frazod
04-01-2008, 07:31 PM
Ripping some punk who needs it a new asshole AWAY FROM THE MEDIA is good.

Throwing him under a bus with the cameras rolling? Not something I'd want my QB doing.

IMO, this should have been kept in house.

Of course, anything that sows discontent in Denver is A-OK with me. :thumb:

OnTheWarpath58
04-01-2008, 07:34 PM
Ripping some punk who needs it a new asshole AWAY FROM THE MEDIA is good.

Throwing him under a bus with the cameras rolling? Not something I'd want my QB doing.

IMO, this should have been kept in house.

Of course, anything that sows discontent in Denver is A-OK with me. :thumb:

It sounds like it's been "handled" privately numerous times with no results.

Maybe Cutler just felt that calling him out in the media might light a spark under his ass and get him turned around.

Frazod
04-01-2008, 07:47 PM
It sounds like it's been "handled" privately numerous times with no results.

Maybe Cutler just felt that calling him out in the media might light a spark under his ass and get him turned around.

I can't imagine getting his balls busted publicly will do his attitude any favors. Keep in mind, he's a jackass to begin with.

OnTheWarpath58
04-01-2008, 07:48 PM
I can't imagine getting his balls busted publicly will do his attitude any favors. Keep in mind, he's a jackass to begin with.

I'm not saying that it won't/couldn't backfire, I'm just throwing out what Cutler may have been thinking.

Frazod
04-01-2008, 07:50 PM
I'm not saying that it won't/couldn't backfire, I'm just throwing out what Cutler may have been thinking.

I get that. It must suck having to deal with idiots like this at the NFL level. It's not like you can just fire them.

OnTheWarpath58
04-01-2008, 07:52 PM
I get that. It must suck having to deal with idiots like this at the NFL level. It's not like you can just fire them.

Basically children with 7 figure bank accounts.

macdawg
04-01-2008, 08:10 PM
according to denver fans, prior to the murder of Darrent Williams, Marshall sprayed down the suspects with a $500 bottle of Crystal. So you can easily assume he had a part in it.

Short Leash Hootie
04-01-2008, 08:11 PM
I'm all for QBs speaking up and taking a stand and whatnot, but hot damn, Cutler ripped him a new asshole. There's a difference between just being a leader and flat out trashing your teammate. That part where he dismissed Marshall's "wake-up call" talk as the same old BS Marshall always spews was classic.

Marshall must be as popular as VD among the Donk players. I didn't realize the stuff about his role in the Darrent Williams situation until this latest McDonalds bag thing. How does Marshall even show his face in the locker room after being a major part of an incident that got a teammate killed and then continuing to get in trouble in the time since then?

102 receptions and 1325 yards...

OnTheWarpath58
04-01-2008, 08:13 PM
102 receptions and 1325 yards...

Doesn't mean he's well liked by his teammates.

LJ's a good example of that.

1750 yards and some of the vets basically said they wouldn't miss him if he were traded last year.....

Short Leash Hootie
04-01-2008, 08:25 PM
Doesn't mean he's well liked by his teammates.

LJ's a good example of that.

1750 yards and some of the vets basically said they wouldn't miss him if he were traded last year.....

Yeah yeah...

I'd take a talent like Brandon Marshall (WR) over a talent like Larry Johnson any day...great WR's are very hard to find...RB's are a dime a dozen...I can't believe I was so against the people who wanted LJ traded...shit, I would've taken one 2nd round pick looking back at it...RB's are just SO easy to find...****ing Ahmad Bradshaw, Ryan Grant, etc...it's all about the offensive line...

Raiderh8ter77
04-01-2008, 08:35 PM
good i want broncos to figght

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-01-2008, 08:41 PM
Yeah yeah...

I'd take a talent like Brandon Marshall (WR) over a talent like Larry Johnson any day...great WR's are very hard to find...RB's are a dime a dozen...I can't believe I was so against the people who wanted LJ traded...shit,

It's because you're a dumbass.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-01-2008, 08:42 PM
I know a lot of people have sounded off on it already, but I'm not overly thrilled that Jay Cutler is demonstrating leader ship skills this strong. This guy could turn out to be a stud QB in this league, and I haven't thought so until lately. This is a sign of his character, and it's ****ing impressive.

PunkinDrublic
04-02-2008, 03:55 PM
IMO you can call out your teammates when you've earned the credibility to do so. It's one thing if Brett Favre, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning does it because they are proven leaders who command respect. Who the **** is Jay Cutler to be talking shit to the media about anybody? The guy has lead a team who previously had multiple playoff appearances to exactly none. He may or may not pan out for the donks but the guys a little green to be calling out his teammates to the media. On the other hand maybe this type of discontent can tear the organization apart. We can only hope.

Rain Man
04-02-2008, 04:13 PM
Yeah yeah...

I'd take a talent like Brandon Marshall (WR) over a talent like Larry Johnson any day...great WR's are very hard to find...RB's are a dime a dozen...I can't believe I was so against the people who wanted LJ traded...shit, I would've taken one 2nd round pick looking back at it...RB's are just SO easy to find...****ing Ahmad Bradshaw, Ryan Grant, etc...it's all about the offensive line...

Name the ten greatest running backs in Chiefs history.

Direckshun
04-02-2008, 04:57 PM
In related news, Croyle's just kind of happy to be given a chance.

Bob Dole
04-02-2008, 05:01 PM
IMO you can call out your teammates when you've earned the credibility to do so. It's one thing if Brett Favre, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning does it because they are proven leaders who command respect. Who the **** is Jay Cutler to be talking shit to the media about anybody? The guy has lead a team who previously had multiple playoff appearances to exactly none.


But, but, but he lead them to 7 victories last year (4 of them won by an Elam FG)! He's the greatest young QB prospect ever!!

Fruit Ninja
04-02-2008, 05:11 PM
My nutsack. He's gonna be a wash. Won't even be able to find backup QB work by 2013. Guarentee it.

No he's not. I watched him quite a few times last year and i was impressed what his composure in games. He's going to be agood. He may even go to a few pro bowls.

Halfcan
04-02-2008, 06:03 PM
[QUOTE=Bill S Preston;4661954]**ntler is a bitch. If I was Marshall I would tell him to go **** himself.[/QUOTE

If I was Marshall-I would have round the clock Ho's and coke-oh yeah-he already does.

Mile High Mania
04-02-2008, 06:15 PM
IMO you can call out your teammates when you've earned the credibility to do so. It's one thing if Brett Favre, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning does it because they are proven leaders who command respect. Who the **** is Jay Cutler to be talking shit to the media about anybody? The guy has lead a team who previously had multiple playoff appearances to exactly none. He may or may not pan out for the donks but the guys a little green to be calling out his teammates to the media. On the other hand maybe this type of discontent can tear the organization apart. We can only hope.

I don't know if your rant is based on pure donk hatred or not, but here's my view...

Cutler may not be Favre (few are), but he's entering his 3rd season and calling out his #1 weapon that was in his draft class. It's not like he's calling out a 10 year veteran.

What exactly does he need to accomplish before he can call someone out? Jay is trying to be the leader of the team... part of that is taking responsiblity and making those around you better.

Marshall has a number of screw ups and if it takes Jay calling him out to straighten him up, so be it.

Rain Man
04-02-2008, 07:05 PM
First Javon Walker, now Brandon Marshall. It seems to me that Cutler must be really difficult to work with.

Mile High Mania
04-02-2008, 07:13 PM
First Javon Walker, now Brandon Marshall. It seems to me that Cutler must be really difficult to work with.

ROFL You're not luring me in with that one...

Rain Man
04-02-2008, 07:26 PM
ROFL You're not luring me in with that one...

It's no coincidence that Lepsis retired, and that Elam left. Even the General Manager bailed. I think you've got a real problem brewing there.

Mile High Mania
04-02-2008, 09:19 PM
It's no coincidence that Lepsis retired, and that Elam left. Even the General Manager bailed. I think you've got a real problem brewing there.

True... this is probably why Elway retired, he saw this coming a decade ago.

Rain Man
04-02-2008, 11:45 PM
True... this is probably why Elway retired, he saw this coming a decade ago.


Actually, he was afraid of Cutler.