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bkkcoh
04-10-2008, 04:50 PM
1 There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.

2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.

3.. All government business will be conducted in our language.

4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how
long they are here.

5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.

6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No
welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government
assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.

7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an
amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be
restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are
reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving
of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our
president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.

10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be
actively hunted &, when caught, sent to jail until your
deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you..


Harsh, you say?.......



The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO

I would have searched, but evidently the search isn't working. Sorry if it is repost.

jAZ
04-10-2008, 05:17 PM
1 There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.

2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.

3.. All government business will be conducted in our language.

4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how
long they are here.

5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.

6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No
welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government
assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.

7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an
amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be
restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are
reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving
of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our
president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.

10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be
actively hunted &, when caught, sent to jail until your
deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you..


Harsh, you say?.......



The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO

I would have searched, but evidently the search isn't working. Sorry if it is I have nothing to add.

You've never even been to Mexico have you?

banyon
04-10-2008, 05:27 PM
http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/37/t/001077.html

bkkcoh
04-10-2008, 05:37 PM
You've never even been to Mexico have you?

Yes, I have. But I didn't protest anything and was a model tourist.

jAZ
04-10-2008, 09:37 PM
Yes, I have. But I didn't protest anything and was a model tourist.
Did you cross the border at an Mexican entry point?

Logical
04-10-2008, 09:57 PM
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an
amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

No wonder Mexico is in such bad economic shape with a law like that one.

Taco John
04-10-2008, 10:06 PM
This is a chain email, isn't it? It's probably not all that accurate.

vailpass
04-11-2008, 09:05 AM
Did you cross the border at an Mexican entry point?

I've crossed through Mexican entry points 100 times. What is your point?

Mexico's laws regarding foreign investment and property ownership are as restrictive as is pointed out in this post.
One mexican law that was not mentioned but that I would very much like to see enacted is their law covering weapons possession by non-citizens.

I am all in favor of seeing the Mexican illegals in the US prosecuted under their very own laws regarding illegal possession of weapons.

Saggysack
04-11-2008, 09:13 AM
What's the daily minimum wage in Mexico? Thirty six cents?

Mr. Laz
04-11-2008, 09:28 AM
our immigration laws should be simplified AND strengthened


just like our trade laws should be stronger for U.S. benefit

ClevelandBronco
04-11-2008, 09:33 AM
I've crossed through Mexican entry points 100 times. What is your point?

Mexico's laws regarding foreign investment and property ownership are as restrictive as is pointed out in this post.
One mexican law that was not mentioned but that I would very much like to see enacted is their law covering weapons possession by non-citizens.

I am all in favor of seeing the Mexican illegals in the US prosecuted under their very own laws regarding illegal possession of weapons.

If you've crossed that many times you also know that enforcement of Mexican law is somewhat entrepreneurial in practice, if I may put the situation in its best light.

As a veteran of at least as many border crossings as you, I recall an occasion when I crossed the border with a friend who was packing (I didn't know until we were well inside). I duly pointed out that he was an idiot. Fortunately he wasn't caught, but he probably was carrying enough cash to get himself out of any trouble that Mexican "law" may have presented.

Stupidly, I once got caught by the Federales with a joint that I forgot was in my pocket, and while that's another story entirely, the situation was solved with a combination of money and subterfuge in what I remember as the most difficult 20 minutes of my life.

Demonpenz
04-11-2008, 09:33 AM
Nugent?

Mr. Kotter
04-11-2008, 09:34 AM
1 There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.

2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.

3.. All government business will be conducted in our language.

4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how
long they are here.

5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.

6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No
welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government
assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.

7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an
amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be
restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are
reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving
of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our
president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.

10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be
actively hunted &, when caught, sent to jail until your
deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you..


Harsh, you say?.......



The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO

I would have searched, but evidently the search isn't working. Sorry if it is repost.

Numbers one through five, I agree with.

6. Depends on circumstances, but some leniency for extenuating circumstances and mitigating factors should be considered IMO.

7. Don't really understand the point of that...

8. 8, 9, and 10 are just unAmerican in my view....way over the top.

FTR, you forgot the most important "reforms" to solve the illegal immigration issue in this country....

1. Vigorous and consistent ENFORCEMENT of existing immigration laws, including diligent and stepped-up surveillance of the borders.

2. Companies and corporations who hire illegals...intentionally, OR because of a lack of due diligence on their part (looking the other way....).....shall be fined $10,000 for EACH illegal hired, for each year or part of year the "illegal" was employed by the company.

:hmmm:

vailpass
04-11-2008, 09:42 AM
If you've crossed that many times you also know that enforcement of Mexican law is somewhat entrepreneurial in practice, if I may put the situation in its best light.

:) That's a good way to put it. I've been pulled over for running imaginary stop signs or speeding when I wasn't a few times by a MexiCop wearing jeans, a t-shirt with a star on it, and a big old hog-leg tucked into the band of his pants. It's a game and it goes like this:

MexiCop: You ran a stop sign
Me: Oh, I didn' see it. I'm sorry.
MexiCop: I have to give you a ticket but I'm worried you will get back to the US and not pay the ticket.
Me: Oh, would you please allow me to pay the fine right now so you don't have to worry about me skipping out?
MexiCop: Si.

$20 later and you are on your way. The rules are easy:

1. Don't smart off to the MexiCop. Act like what you are: a guest in their country.

2.Find a way to pass him some cash without making it look like you think you are above their law because you are an American with cash.

3.Once he takes the cash go about your business like nothing happened.

Amnorix
04-11-2008, 09:47 AM
So now we want to pattern ourselves after Mexico? Why is this exactly?

bkkcoh
04-11-2008, 09:49 AM
our immigration laws should be simplified AND strengthened


just like our trade laws should be stronger for U.S. benefit

I would disagree, our immigration laws, like most of the laws already on the books, should be enforced

just like there there shouldn't be any hate crimes, isn't it arguable that any crime perpatrated against another is done with some bit of hate?

vailpass
04-11-2008, 10:02 AM
So now we want to pattern ourselves after Mexico? Why is this exactly?

Have you seen the price of blow on the Mexico side? Very affordable.

jAZ
04-11-2008, 10:26 AM
I've crossed through Mexican entry points 100 times. What is your point?

Mexico's laws regarding foreign investment and property ownership are as restrictive as is pointed out in this post.
One mexican law that was not mentioned but that I would very much like to see enacted is their law covering weapons possession by non-citizens.

I am all in favor of seeing the Mexican illegals in the US prosecuted under their very own laws regarding illegal possession of weapons.

No one gives a crap who comes or goes into Mexico. They don't even have anyone watching the border. They don't stop you, they don't inspect you they don't do anything.

They might have a guy sitting there asleep or a guy with a gun standing there for show. But they don't care who comes into the country in the least.

The entire premise of this immigration law is a joke.

Mexico's protectionism WRT to land ownership (ie, investment) has everything to do with their fear of getting swallowed up by the vast resources of foreigners like Americans. The laws are most restrictive along the coastal areas. But they are changing their laws drastically of late and allowing far more foreign investment because they know it's what's needed to improve their economy and create jobs.

The entire point of this thread is based on fear and ignorance.

MIAdragon
04-11-2008, 11:07 AM
:) That's a good way to put it. I've been pulled over for running imaginary stop signs or speeding when I wasn't a few times by a MexiCop wearing jeans, a t-shirt with a star on it, and a big old hog-leg tucked into the band of his pants. It's a game and it goes like this:

MexiCop: You ran a stop sign
Me: Oh, I didn' see it. I'm sorry.
MexiCop: I have to give you a ticket but I'm worried you will get back to the US and not pay the ticket.
Me: Oh, would you please allow me to pay the fine right now so you don't have to worry about me skipping out?
MexiCop: Si.

$20 later and you are on your way. The rules are easy:

1. Don't smart off to the MexiCop. Act like what you are: a guest in their country.

2.Find a way to pass him some cash without making it look like you think you are above their law because you are an American with cash.

3.Once he takes the cash go about your business like nothing happened.

Sounds like most of latin America.

ClevelandBronco
04-11-2008, 11:20 AM
No one gives a crap who comes or goes into Mexico. They don't even have anyone watching the border. They don't stop you, they don't inspect you they don't do anything.

They might have a guy sitting there asleep or a guy with a gun standing there for show. But they don't care who comes into the country in the least.

The entire premise of this immigration law is a joke.

Mexico's protectionism WRT to land ownership (ie, investment) has everything to do with their fear of getting swallowed up by the vast resources of foreigners like Americans. The laws are most restrictive along the coastal areas. But they are changing their laws drastically of late and allowing far more foreign investment because they know it's what's needed to improve their economy and create jobs.

The entire point of this thread is based on fear and ignorance.

You seem to be taking this thread seriously. Why?

acesn8s
04-12-2008, 01:36 AM
So now we want to pattern ourselves after Mexico? Why is this exactly?
Canadian laws are too strict.

Rain Man
04-12-2008, 07:44 PM
I've crossed through Mexican entry points 100 times. What is your point?


Just curious: do you find it easier to swallow the balloons, or to put them up the other end?