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Logical
04-10-2008, 08:47 PM
Lets all vote on a measure that would require Dirk Digler to stand in front of KFC on the 2nd Tuesday of each month and a random lottery winner would have to kick him in the balls. Would it pass?

KCChiefsMan
04-10-2008, 08:52 PM
isn't Dirk Digler a fictional character?

Logical
04-10-2008, 09:25 PM
What no moral opposition to lotteries?;)

Logical
04-10-2008, 09:26 PM
isn't Dirk Digler a fictional character?
:shrug:

I don't know, I just know we have someone on the BB that uses that username.

smittysbar
04-10-2008, 09:49 PM
Thought the poll was dumb but wanted my 10 bucks, or maybe I just don't get it???????

Bacon Cheeseburger
04-10-2008, 09:50 PM
I'm guessing there is some kind of back story to this. I suppose I'll trudge on over to DC and try to figure out what it is.

dirk digler
04-10-2008, 10:00 PM
I don't get it

Logical
04-10-2008, 10:02 PM
Thought the poll was dumb but wanted my 10 bucks, or maybe I just don't get it???????
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4677706&postcount=354

Logical
04-10-2008, 10:02 PM
I'm guessing there is some kind of back story to this. I suppose I'll trudge on over to DC and try to figure out what it is.

Inspiration
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4677706&postcount=354

dirk digler
04-10-2008, 10:07 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4677706&postcount=354

Ahh thanks.

I guess Rad doesn't like how America works maybe he can move to China I hear the weather is good there

BTW I voted yes because I have balls of steel

Mr. Flopnuts
04-10-2008, 10:08 PM
Ahh thanks.

I guess Rad doesn't like how America works maybe he can move to China I hear the weather is good there

Rad is right.

Bacon Cheeseburger
04-10-2008, 10:10 PM
I agree with rad wholeheartedly, but I'm also resigned to the fact that it's a losing battle.

dirk digler
04-10-2008, 10:14 PM
Rad is right.

I stated in that thread multiple times I could care less either way but I don't get why people are getting so upset about democracy in action. IMHO they are just mad it is against them this time.

Just like in my town on Tuesday, they had a vote to build a couple of new buildings and it was going to raise everyone's property tax and it passed. I voted no but hey that is the system at work.

Bacon Cheeseburger
04-10-2008, 10:19 PM
I stated in that thread multiple times I could care less either way but I don't get why people are getting so upset about democracy in action. IMHO they are just mad it is against them this time.

No, people are mad because it's a horseshit law. If someone doesn't want to smell the smoke they can go to a non-smoking establishment. End of ****ing story.

Boon
04-10-2008, 10:24 PM
No, people are mad because it's a horseshit law. If someone doesn't want to smell the smoke they can go to a non-smoking establishment. End of ****ing story.

Yep.
It is really as simple as that.

smittysbar
04-10-2008, 10:25 PM
No, people are mad because it's a horseshit law. If someone doesn't want to smell the smoke they can go to a non-smoking establishment. End of ****ing story.

QFT:clap:

dirk digler
04-10-2008, 10:28 PM
No, people are mad because it's a horseshit law. If someone doesn't want to smell the smoke they can go to a non-smoking establishment. End of ****ing story.

There is alot of horseshit laws but if you don't like the new law try to change it. You have that right and from what I have read it appears some bar owners are going to try to do that by putting their own ballot initiative up for a vote. I think that is great as well. In the end the citizens have the final say not the government so what is wrong with that?

smittysbar
04-10-2008, 10:51 PM
Funny how people on here say it won't hurt the bars, but yet they are trying to get it changed....hmmm. Wonder why? Because some of you don't have a ****ing clue, they ARE losing money. Bar owners in Columbia are trying the same thing, because they ARE losing money. Bar owners in Kirksville are trying to get it changed also, because the ARE losing money. I can't complain, at the moment because the ban is making me money (people are coming to my place because they can smoke if they want).

We as bar owners spend a ton of money on smoke eaters, special filters, and exhaust fans to accommodate both sides. Jesus, reading the dumb shit posts on this board about the subject is almost laughable. You would think that if you were to go to a bar that allows smoking you would drop dead the following night.

I have a guy that comes into the bar probably 3 to 5 times a week. Has an occasional cig when he is drinking. Plays golf with us everyday. Works at a local auction house. Seems to always be doing something. Oh and did I mention he is 85 years old. Yes smoking is not healthy, but come on, you going to a bar were others are smoking is not going to kill you. If you don't think the owner is doing enough to control the smoke, FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO GO.

By the way, even though it has helped my business, with the smoking ban passing just up the road. I am still against it! Whats next? How are they going to hurt our businesses in the future? Is it your family that is getting their income cut? Is it really that big of a deal to you? If it's such a great idea, why don't some of you get together and build a bar in a town that doesn't have the ban, but make yours non-smoking............since it is such a good idea, you ought to rake in the money, right? WRONG, or bars would have already been non-smoking, and they wouldn't have to make chicken shit laws, such as this.

Phobia
04-10-2008, 11:01 PM
I like you smitty. I hope you make a billion dollars selling beers at 300% margin. But I don't give a rip about bar owners. I don't give a rip about R.J. Reynolds either. If a law is passed that hurts the profitability of cancer sticks, I just can't complain. I'm a former tobacco user (spitter, not a sucker) and I don't like to smell like an ashtray. I'm watching my wife's grandmother die a painful death from second hand smoke, so I don't care about scientific studies or what the CDC says about 2nd-hand-smoke. My experience tells me it can kill you.

I have plenty of friends who smoke. Great. I don't have a problem with their choice. I don't care about a lot of stuff. But don't ask me to feel sorry for bar owners when smoking is pushed outside. People will still come. They'll just go outside to smoke.

smittysbar
04-10-2008, 11:12 PM
Phil I'm not asking anyone to feel sorry for them, but it should be their choice, not mine not yours, and certainly not the governments. But yes it is sad when I see friend go out of business and struggle providing for their family because of this shit. People can post what ever stat they want, I have watched it first hand and yes it pisses me off. I won't reply any further on this, as I think it is total BS and just gets me worked up.

Pic
04-10-2008, 11:17 PM
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Picturesspeaklouder/diggler.jpg

Logical
04-10-2008, 11:19 PM
No, people are mad because it's a horseshit law. If someone doesn't want to smell the smoke they can go to a non-smoking establishment. End of ****ing story.
Let's play a game. Name 5 non-smoking restaurants in KC before the law was passed?

Phobia
04-10-2008, 11:25 PM
Phil I'm not asking anyone to feel sorry for them, but it should be their choice, not mine not yours, and certainly not the governments. But yes it is sad when I see friend go out of business and struggle providing for their family because of this shit. People can post what ever stat they want, I have watched it first hand and yes it pisses me off. I won't reply any further on this, as I think it is total BS and just gets me worked up.

It's sad when people struggle. It's all about adapting and overcoming. You need a plan for when it comes to your neighborhood. Adapt. Overcome.

People are still going to spend their entertainment dollars somewhere. Figure out how to keep those dollars within your doors. You can't feel sorry for somebody simple because they couldn't adapt to change. Otherwise I'd still be sitting around feeling sorry for myself because I'm not raking in $150 an hour as a consultant in Houston.

Phobia
04-10-2008, 11:25 PM
Let's play a game. Name 5 non-smoking restaurants in KC before the law was passed?

Name one. Anywhere.

Boon
04-10-2008, 11:34 PM
McDonalds?

Phobia
04-10-2008, 11:35 PM
McDonalds?

Restaurant?

Boon
04-10-2008, 11:41 PM
Yeah. You know, fast food restaurant.

ClevelandBronco
04-10-2008, 11:43 PM
There is alot of horseshit laws but if you don't like the new law try to change it. You have that right and from what I have read it appears some bar owners are going to try to do that by putting their own ballot initiative up for a vote. I think that is great as well. In the end the citizens have the final say not the government so what is wrong with that?

"The citizens" don't own the bars and restaurants.

Boon
04-10-2008, 11:44 PM
"The citizens" don't own the bars and restaurants.


Exactly.

ClevelandBronco
04-10-2008, 11:46 PM
...I don't care about a lot of stuff...

Such as private property rights, for instance.

Phobia
04-10-2008, 11:48 PM
Honestly, how did "bar" get roped into a "restaurant" law?

I mean, it's pretty simple to distinguish, isn't it? If a place does 80% of their business through liquor sales, let them smoke. I don't know where to draw the line but I can generally determine the difference between a "bar" and a "restaurant" from the parking lot and if that fails then I'll find out within 3 seconds of walking in the front door.

Phobia
04-10-2008, 11:49 PM
Such as private property rights, for instance.

Oh, I care about that but the whole "private" property issue is kinda moot when you beg the general public to frequent your establishment. Weak argument.

Logical
04-10-2008, 11:52 PM
Since this lighthearted thread devolved into this discussion anyway, let me just say:

I find this over-reaction simply stupid. Out here in Kalifornia it is illegal to smoke in all restaurants and bars (at least in San Diego for the bars) they are doing a thriving packed house business with covers needed on Fri and Sats in the Gaslamp to even get in. So tell me again how they are not going to survive without smoking being allowed?

ClevelandBronco
04-10-2008, 11:54 PM
Oh, I care about that but the whole "private" property issue is kinda moot when you beg the general public to frequent your establishment. Weak argument.

Gee, and here I thought that your argument wasn't just weak but nonexistent. I stand corrected.

Phobia
04-11-2008, 12:01 AM
Gee, and here I thought that your argument wasn't just weak but nonexistent. I stand corrected.

Was this a rebuttal or a shot?

SBK
04-11-2008, 12:52 AM
In Atlanta you can't smoke in restaurants at all. There's one place that I know of called The Vortex that found a workaround. You have to be 18 to eat there. It's a burger joint (a really good one I hear) during the day, and a Swinging Richards or Manhole type of bar at night I hear.

I love eating out and not smelling like smoke. I love not getting sinus infections anymore because I'm in the non-smoking area, but the booth behind me is smoking.

And speaking of people complaining about not being able to smoke, are you pissed that you can't smoke on airplanes anymore?

ClevelandBronco
04-11-2008, 01:12 AM
In Atlanta you can't smoke in restaurants at all. There's one place that I know of called The Vortex that found a workaround. You have to be 18 to eat there. It's a burger joint (a really good one I hear) during the day, and a Swinging Richards or Manhole type of bar at night I hear.

I love eating out and not smelling like smoke. I love not getting sinus infections anymore because I'm in the non-smoking area, but the booth behind me is smoking.

And speaking of people complaining about not being able to smoke, are you pissed that you can't smoke on airplanes anymore?

Are you asking anyone in particular? I don't smoke, so I probably can't help you understand the smoker's perspective. I'm only interested in the rights of business owners.

SBK
04-11-2008, 02:08 AM
Are you asking anyone in particular? I don't smoke, so I probably can't help you understand the smoker's perspective. I'm only interested in the rights of business owners.

Well, competition isn't a problem here because you can't smoke anywhere in the state, and few are going to drive at least an hour from Atlanta to go to Tennessee or Alabama. :D

So frankly they're all playing by the same rules.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-11-2008, 02:12 AM
I stated in that thread multiple times I could care less either way but I don't get why people are getting so upset about democracy in action. IMHO they are just mad it is against them this time.

Just like in my town on Tuesday, they had a vote to build a couple of new buildings and it was going to raise everyone's property tax and it passed. I voted no but hey that is the system at work.

Smoking bans have saved me money. I'm one of the guys that doesn't go anymore. Restaurants occasionally but I haven't been in a bar in over 8 months. It really benefits me financially, and health wise as I've pretty much just quit drinking. I just think it's bullshit that you are banning a perfectly legal activity in places it's most personally inconvenient. Don't go there. It's pretty pretentious to tell a property and business owner that they can't allow a LEGAL activity in their establishment. Make sure you go out to eat and drink more often non smokers. You OWE it to business owners.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-11-2008, 02:16 AM
Phil I'm not asking anyone to feel sorry for them, but it should be their choice, not mine not yours, and certainly not the governments. But yes it is sad when I see friend go out of business and struggle providing for their family because of this shit. People can post what ever stat they want, I have watched it first hand and yes it pisses me off. I won't reply any further on this, as I think it is total BS and just gets me worked up.

Yeah dude. How dare you complain when John Q Public decides to bend you over and put his penis in your rectal cavity. You OWN that property. Smoking isn't against the law. So how can it be against the law on YOUR property, but not mine? It's unconstitutional. It's anti American. Get pissed, you should be.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-11-2008, 02:19 AM
Honestly, how did "bar" get roped into a "restaurant" law?

I mean, it's pretty simple to distinguish, isn't it? If a place does 80% of their business through liquor sales, let them smoke. I don't know where to draw the line but I can generally determine the difference between a "bar" and a "restaurant" from the parking lot and if that fails then I'll find out within 3 seconds of walking in the front door.

That's right. Because Americans have the RIGHT to go to a restaurant. What's next? Are we going to pass laws on the menu? Oh shit........... :Lin:

Mr. Flopnuts
04-11-2008, 02:22 AM
In Atlanta you can't smoke in restaurants at all. There's one place that I know of called The Vortex that found a workaround. You have to be 18 to eat there. It's a burger joint (a really good one I hear) during the day, and a Swinging Richards or Manhole type of bar at night I hear.

I love eating out and not smelling like smoke. I love not getting sinus infections anymore because I'm in the non-smoking area, but the booth behind me is smoking.

And speaking of people complaining about not being able to smoke, are you pissed that you can't smoke on airplanes anymore?

If you really don't see the difference between smoking indoors, and smoking in a sphere 30,000 ft in the air, then you're kind of a dumbass.

ClevelandBronco
04-11-2008, 02:29 AM
If you really don't see the difference between smoking indoors, and smoking in a sphere 30,000 ft in the air, then you're kind of a dumbass.

I disagree. If an air carrier decides to offer flights that include smokers, the carrier should be allowed to do just that.

If the carrier decides that they can fill flights by offering nonsmoking fights, they should be encouraged to do that as well. It has nothing to do with enclosed areas; It has everything to do with the owner of the business offering what he chooses to offer.

The market gets to decide whether he guessed correctly.

Don't buy it if you don't like it.

Damn. Where did our balls go?

Mr. Flopnuts
04-11-2008, 02:39 AM
I disagree. If an air carrier decides to offer flights that include smokers, the carrier should be allowed to do just that.

If the carrier decides that they can fill flights by offering nonsmoking fights, they should be encouraged to do that as well. It has nothing to do with enclosed areas; It has everything to do with the owner of the business offering what he chooses to offer.

The market gets to decide whether he guessed correctly.

Don't buy it if you don't like it.

Damn. Where did our balls go?



I agree with the principle. If that's a risk that John Q Consumer wants to take, why shouldn't he be allowed too if the company is willing to let him?

ClevelandBronco
04-11-2008, 02:48 AM
I agree with the principle. If that's a risk that John Q Consumer wants to take, why shouldn't he be allowed too if the company is willing to let him?

I'd respectfully ask you to get your mind back to the inherent right of the business owner to offer a service that thrives or fails. It's his (and often his stockholders') business. That's all that matters, IMO.

Mr. Flopnuts
04-11-2008, 03:01 AM
I'd respectfully ask you to get your mind back to the inherent right of the business owner to offer a service that thrives or fails. It's his (and often his stockholders') business. That's all that matters, IMO.

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm not in the camp of saving people from themselves. I guess with certain arguments though, rather than continue with the same rebuttals, I'm inclined to try and show people that their logic is flawed in more than 1 area.

rad
04-11-2008, 05:23 AM
I inspired a thread?

I rule!

dirk digler
04-11-2008, 07:26 AM
Smoking bans have saved me money. I'm one of the guys that doesn't go anymore. Restaurants occasionally but I haven't been in a bar in over 8 months. It really benefits me financially, and health wise as I've pretty much just quit drinking. I just think it's bullshit that you are banning a perfectly legal activity in places it's most personally inconvenient. Don't go there. It's pretty pretentious to tell a property and business owner that they can't allow a LEGAL activity in their establishment. Make sure you go out to eat and drink more often non smokers. You OWE it to business owners.

I am not banning anything since I don't live in KC. In fact I have never stopped going to a bar or restaurant because they allowed smoking and I probably never will. My whole argument is that it is not the government that is imposing the ban it is the citizens of KC and I think that is ok because that is exactly how it should be.

It is also legal to own a gun but I can't carry one on the plane or in certain public places so that must be hurting bars and restaurants as well. :rolleyes:

As far as the stupid excuse that this will hurt bars and restaurants in KC I read an article last night in the KC Star that all the neighboring counties and cities all have smoking bans. Independence passed one, all or most of Johnson County does and Wyandotte county is going to pass one this year as well so either smokers are going to stay home (which that will never happen) or they will go out anyway because frankly there is no where else to go.

Skip Towne
04-11-2008, 07:36 AM
Yep.
It is really as simple as that.

Yep

smittysbar
04-11-2008, 07:43 AM
\Smoking bans have saved me money. I'm one of the guys that doesn't go anymore. Restaurants occasionally but I haven't been in a bar in over 8 months. It really benefits me financially, and health wise as I've pretty much just quit drinking. I just think it's bullshit that you are banning a perfectly legal activity in places it's most personally inconvenient. Don't go there. It's pretty pretentious to tell a property and business owner that they can't allow a LEGAL activity in their establishment. Make sure you go out to eat and drink more often non smokers. You OWE it to business owners.

One bar that is really struggling right now and is probably close to closing put on it's marque out front "where are you non-smokers??????"

rad
04-11-2008, 07:45 AM
I am not banning anything since I don't live in KC. In fact I have never stopped going to a bar or restaurant because they allowed smoking and I probably never will. My whole argument is that it is not the government that is imposing the ban it is the citizens of KC and I think that is ok because that is exactly how it should be.

It is also legal to own a gun but I can't carry one on the plane or in certain public places so that must be hurting bars and restaurants as well. :rolleyes:

As far as the stupid excuse that this will hurt bars and restaurants in KC I read an article last night in the KC Star that all the neighboring counties and cities all have smoking bans. Independence passed one, all or most of Johnson County does and Wyandotte county is going to pass one this year as well so either smokers are going to stay home (which that will never happen) or they will go out anyway because frankly there is no where else to go.

Point is, it's the fact that it was even put to a vote that is sad and indicitive of diminishing rights and choices and the basic pussification of this country.

Get it?

Dartgod
04-11-2008, 07:45 AM
\

One bar that is really struggling right now and is probably close to closing put on it's marque out front "where are you non-smokers??????"
Is this just a bar or a bar/restaurant?

SBK
04-11-2008, 07:52 AM
If you really don't see the difference between smoking indoors, and smoking in a sphere 30,000 ft in the air, then you're kind of a dumbass.

I used a plane as an example because flights used to be smokey as heck until the FAA decided it was a bad idea. You just don't hear anyone complain today that they cannot smoke on a flight anymore....Restaurants will be the same way.

smittysbar
04-11-2008, 07:55 AM
Is this just a bar or a bar/restaurant?

Mostly a bar. They serve some food, but just more for convenience to their customers. He was down 51% last quarter.

dirk digler
04-11-2008, 08:06 AM
Point is, it's the fact that it was even put to a vote that is sad and indicitive of diminishing rights and choices and the basic pussification of this country.

Get it?

No I get it perfectly fine there is alot of laws that I disagree with but that is life get over it.

Dartgod
04-11-2008, 08:29 AM
Mostly a bar. They serve some food, but just more for convenience to their customers. He was down 51% last quarter.
These types of places should have been exempt. And casinos. Nobody cares about the health of casino patrons. It is about health, right?

Right?

Skip Towne
04-11-2008, 08:35 AM
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Picturesspeaklouder/diggler.jpg

Can you type?

Logical
04-11-2008, 11:08 AM
These types of places should have been exempt. And casinos. Nobody cares about the health of casino patrons. It is about health, right?

Right?
Actually out here Casinos are exempt, but then again they are on Indian reservations and run by the tribes.

Phobia
04-11-2008, 11:16 AM
These types of places should have been exempt. And casinos. Nobody cares about the health of casino patrons. It is about health, right?

Right?

Completely agree.

I live in a tiny community with one bar. They allow smoking while all the other communities in the surrounding area banned smoking.

This place is still dead. I go for the Blvd specials on tuesdays and thursdays but there's no more than 6 or 7 other people in there at a time. I've no idea how they stay in business.

Dartgod
04-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Completely agree.

I live in a tiny community with one bar. They allow smoking while all the other communities in the surrounding area banned smoking.

This place is still dead. I go for the Blvd specials on tuesdays and thursdays but there's no more than 6 or 7 other people in there at a time. I've no idea how they stay in business.
I had no idea there was a bar there.

Calcountry
04-11-2008, 01:15 PM
Honestly, how did "bar" get roped into a "restaurant" law?

I mean, it's pretty simple to distinguish, isn't it? If a place does 80% of their business through liquor sales, let them smoke. I don't know where to draw the line but I can generally determine the difference between a "bar" and a "restaurant" from the parking lot and if that fails then I'll find out within 3 seconds of walking in the front door.WTF, just let the sumbitch that owns the restaurant decide whether he allows smoke or not.


He can hang a sign up that says, THIS IS A SMOKING JOINT, IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT, GO STUFF YOUR PIE HOLE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Then, the entrepreneurs would open up Smoking Applebees and Non Smoking applebees. Perhaps maybe even a nonalcoholic applebees if there is enough demand for one.

Cater to the establishments that suit your needs, let the marketplace decide who needs to stay in business or not.

I am sick and freaking tired of everyone wanting to stick their long damned arms into areas that are simply non of their freaking business.

Calcountry
04-11-2008, 01:17 PM
We lost this fight in California decades ago.

dirk digler
04-11-2008, 01:23 PM
Completely agree.

I live in a tiny community with one bar. They allow smoking while all the other communities in the surrounding area banned smoking.

This place is still dead. I go for the Blvd specials on tuesdays and thursdays but there's no more than 6 or 7 other people in there at a time. I've no idea how they stay in business.

DAMN THE NON-SMOKERS!!! :cuss:

:)

Phobia
04-11-2008, 01:29 PM
I had no idea there was a bar there.

Well, they also serve burnt ribs to first timers but everybody who goes back a 2nd time goes to drink a beer rather than eat.

Boon
04-11-2008, 01:37 PM
WTF, just let the sumbitch that owns the restaurant decide whether he allows smoke or not.


He can hang a sign up that says, THIS IS A SMOKING JOINT, IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT, GO STUFF YOUR PIE HOLE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Then, the entrepreneurs would open up Smoking Applebees and Non Smoking applebees. Perhaps maybe even a nonalcoholic applebees if there is enough demand for one.

Cater to the establishments that suit your needs, let the marketplace decide who needs to stay in business or not.

I am sick and freaking tired of everyone wanting to stick their long damned arms into areas that are simply non of their freaking business.

Rep!
It really is this simple.

Phobia
04-11-2008, 01:40 PM
WTF, just let the sumbitch that owns the restaurant decide whether he allows smoke or not.


He can hang a sign up that says, THIS IS A SMOKING JOINT, IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT, GO STUFF YOUR PIE HOLE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Then, the entrepreneurs would open up Smoking Applebees and Non Smoking applebees. Perhaps maybe even a nonalcoholic applebees if there is enough demand for one.

Cater to the establishments that suit your needs, let the marketplace decide who needs to stay in business or not.

I am sick and freaking tired of everyone wanting to stick their long damned arms into areas that are simply non of their freaking business.

I actually agree with this. I'm all about smaller government and simpler, more common sense laws. But since I can't do anything about the current state of affairs, I've adopted the position reflected in this thread.

Dartgod
04-11-2008, 02:05 PM
Well, they also serve burnt ribs to first timers but everybody who goes back a 2nd time goes to drink a beer rather than eat.
OK, I know where you are talking about now.

So what kind of BLVD specials do they have?

Phobia
04-11-2008, 02:16 PM
$2 draws all night. They also have Irish on tap. In fact, they have a lot of quality beer on tap for a small joint. If you drop in, please drop my name if you don't mind.

crazycoffey
04-11-2008, 02:36 PM
Let's play a game. Name 5 non-smoking restaurants in KC before the law was passed?

fast food, yes
Subway - and other sandwich shops
Golden Ox / Golden Corrale
Cracker Barrel - um- C racker Barrel that is
Genghis Khan Mongolian Grill
Phonchos?

Just a few stabs in the dark.....

Bob Dole
04-11-2008, 02:47 PM
WTF, just let the sumbitch that owns the restaurant decide whether he allows smoke or not.


He can hang a sign up that says, THIS IS A SMOKING JOINT, IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT, GO STUFF YOUR PIE HOLE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Then, the entrepreneurs would open up Smoking Applebees and Non Smoking applebees. Perhaps maybe even a nonalcoholic applebees if there is enough demand for one.

Cater to the establishments that suit your needs, let the marketplace decide who needs to stay in business or not.

I am sick and freaking tired of everyone wanting to stick their long damned arms into areas that are simply non of their freaking business.

There's actually a restaurant about an hour west of here that has a non-smoking section. It's the little claustrophobic room in the back.

And Bob Dole typed up most of a grant proposal once that actually attempted to study the smoking/non-smoking thing by building duplicate restaurants with rotating staff and a common parking lot. There's a ton of different things that could be studied: attendance, total average ticket, length of stay, revenue per minute of stay, etc.

Bowser
04-11-2008, 03:26 PM
After reading three or four treads on this subject, all I can say is that nicotine is the devil's drug. I've never been happier that I never got hooked.

Pic
04-11-2008, 03:55 PM
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn211/Picturesspeaklouder/smok1ing.jpg

Logical
04-11-2008, 07:56 PM
fast food, yes
Subway - and other sandwich shops
Golden Ox / Golden Corrale
"The Man" Barrel - um- C racker Barrel that is
Genghis Khan Mongolian Grill
Phonchos?

Just a few stabs in the dark.....Wow, truthfully I am impressed, one that they did it of their own accord and two that you actually could name them.

Five gold stars.

KcMizzou
04-11-2008, 08:10 PM
WTF, just let the sumbitch that owns the restaurant decide whether he allows smoke or not.


He can hang a sign up that says, THIS IS A SMOKING JOINT, IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT, GO STUFF YOUR PIE HOLE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Then, the entrepreneurs would open up Smoking Applebees and Non Smoking applebees. Perhaps maybe even a nonalcoholic applebees if there is enough demand for one.

Cater to the establishments that suit your needs, let the marketplace decide who needs to stay in business or not.

I am sick and freaking tired of everyone wanting to stick their long damned arms into areas that are simply non of their freaking business.WTF? You and your silly common sense. :shake:

Calcountry
04-12-2008, 07:17 PM
There's actually a restaurant about an hour west of here that has a non-smoking section. It's the little claustrophobic room in the back.

And Bob Dole typed up most of a grant proposal once that actually attempted to study the smoking/non-smoking thing by building duplicate restaurants with rotating staff and a common parking lot. There's a ton of different things that could be studied: attendance, total average ticket, length of stay, revenue per minute of stay, etc.We use to have an old style diner here in town, that specifically catered to smokers. He let people smoke, had ash trays on the tables, counters, etc. He didn't have a non smoking section. When people complained, he pointed to the door. He had a thriving business, as the beleaguered smokers ate there regular as it was the only haven they had to go and enjoy an old fashioned ham and eggs breakfast, black coffee, and a smoke for desert.

They weren't hurting anybody, and they weren't breaking any laws. There was no gun being pointed at anybodies head telling them, they had to go eat there. Just understand it, there WILL BE SMOKE HERE. Don't bitch if you come in.

But the "do gooders" went in anyway and kept raising hell with him, just because they had to have their fuggin way, I mean, that poor bastard was killing people after all.

So the place has a grease fire in the kitchen one day. I am sure it was an accident, and he got the phug out of business.

Now everyone will live to be a hundred and two, just like Jimmy the Cricket use to say.

Boon
04-12-2008, 07:26 PM
Wow, truthfully I am impressed, one that they did it of their own accord and two that you actually could name them.

Five gold stars.

You ask a question, you get your answer and when it goes against a point your trying to make you resort to being a smart ass. Good job.

Logical
04-12-2008, 07:37 PM
You ask a question, you get your answer and when it goes against a point your trying to make you resort to being a smart ass. Good job.I was not being a smart ass I really was seriously impressed. I was sure that it would not be possible.

Boon
04-13-2008, 12:34 AM
I was not being a smart ass I really was seriously impressed. I was sure that it would not be possible.

Then I take it back.