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UteChief
05-11-2008, 04:46 PM
Yeah the past two games the bench finally showed up. Boozer in game three too.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 04:48 PM
Milsap is freaking awesome. Would be better if he didn't miss a lay up.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 04:49 PM
Tell you what -- the Lakers have done a hell of a job keeping this game within 10 while the Jazz have all the momentum.

That will count a lot as the game gets down to its last three minutes or so and Kobe, who hasn't had to do much this quarter, starts going to work.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 04:53 PM
Ten point lead, five minutes left.

Kobe's missed two three pointers in a row.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 04:53 PM
I think Kobe may be to hurt for much of a come back. He will be a liability on defense too.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 04:55 PM
FISHER NEVER MISSES. I SWEAR.

Two threes in a row, cuts the lead to eight with three minutes to go.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 04:55 PM
Now Fisher??

UteChief
05-11-2008, 04:56 PM
FISHER NEVER MISSES. I SWEAR.

Two threes in a row, cuts the lead to eight with three minutes to go.

I know, I hated that the Jazz needed to let him go. He's a classy guy.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 04:56 PM
Wow, technical called on Okur... for... what, exactly?

Jazz are shooting themselves in the foot. They just have to play decent at this point to win.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:00 PM
FISHER JUST HIT ANOTHER THREE.

Only a FOUR POINT GAME. Holy moly.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:01 PM
Williams the human bowling ball.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:01 PM
FISHER JUST HIT ANOTHER THREE.

Only a FOUR POINT GAME. Holy moly.

That was a rainbow.

Spott
05-11-2008, 05:01 PM
That should have been a charge.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:01 PM
Williams thu human bowling ball.

Kobe wasn't set, and was to far underneath the basket.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:02 PM
That D stop was huge.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:03 PM
2 + the foul.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:03 PM
Kobe with a three point play.

1 point game, minute and a half left to play.

This is frightening...

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:04 PM
THAT KID IS CLUTCH!!!

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:04 PM
BIIIIIIG play by D-Will. Holy crap. Stays on side, cans a huge shot over a huge defender...

Spott
05-11-2008, 05:05 PM
Tie game.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:06 PM
Odom just canned a three...

Tie game. 40 seconds left. My god.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:06 PM
Shit!

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:06 PM
Boozer needs to hit both of these.

Edit: Clutch.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:06 PM
Odom? with a 3?

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:06 PM
I'm not sure that shouldn't be a turn over.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:07 PM
Booz makes the extra free throws pay off.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:08 PM
Woo, this is a good game.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:08 PM
Yeah, that went off a Jazz leg.

Kobe passed up a wide open two, got greedy and stepped back up to the three and a defender caught up with him. MVP?

Now it's 8 seconds left, Laker ball, Jazz up by two.

Spott
05-11-2008, 05:08 PM
Fisher for another 3 here would be pretty funny.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Mark ALL SHOOTERS. The Lakers are on fire from beyond the arc.

Make them earn a two. And BOX OUT.

Spott
05-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Tie game again.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Odom with a putback. Geez.

Five seconds, Jazz ball. TO.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Come on Korver or D-Will.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:10 PM
Come on Booz block out.

Fruit Ninja
05-11-2008, 05:11 PM
OT, **** yeah.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:11 PM
What an awful ****ing move by D-Will.

OT.

Jesus.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:12 PM
This is what NBA playoffs are supposed to be.

Fruit Ninja
05-11-2008, 05:13 PM
This is what NBA playoffs are supposed to be.

Yep, now is the time to get back into the NBA . ITs just ****ing awesome. Still have Spurs and Hornets later today.

doomy3
05-11-2008, 05:14 PM
Great D on that last posetion

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:16 PM
Two BS fouls.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:17 PM
KIRILENKO SHUTS DOWN BRYANT. GREAT play.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:17 PM
Awesome block.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:18 PM
They called that on AK???

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:18 PM
What!?

Kobe pushed AK over. That's a foul on AK?

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:19 PM
It sucks he's injured but the refs shouldn't give him the game.

Spott
05-11-2008, 05:20 PM
That looked like a make up call for that blocking foul called earlier.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:20 PM
I'm beginning to think the Jazz shouldn't double Kobe at all. AK can handle him now that he's slowed down by his injury, and it's the spot up shooters that are killing the Jazz.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:20 PM
They called that on AK???

Yep.

Bad call.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:21 PM
Okur is one clutch Turk.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:21 PM
Okur with the long two.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:21 PM
AK just blocked Kobe AGAIN.

AK's all over him.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:22 PM
That looked like a make up call for that blocking foul called earlier.

The Williams bowling ball play? I'm not sure that was an offensive foul.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:22 PM
AK just blocked Kobe AGAIN.

AK's all over him.

Kobe has clearly lost a step because he's hurt.

Lakers need to find another option.

Spott
05-11-2008, 05:22 PM
That last possession is why Kobe will never be as good as MJ. Clearly he is hurt and his shot is off, yet he forces the shot twice without looking to pass.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:23 PM
Bryant finally scores, two point Jazz lead with a minute left.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:23 PM
OFFENSIVE REBOUND OKUR.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:24 PM
AK PUTS THE KNIFE IN. GAME.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:24 PM
Great offensive board.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:24 PM
And 1!!!

Spott
05-11-2008, 05:24 PM
That dude looks like a skinny Ivan Drago.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:25 PM
And 1!!!

I thought that was a bad call.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:25 PM
The only thing I can say right now is NO DOUBLING down low.

Keep AK on Kobe with no help, and mark ALL SHOOTERS. D-Will needs to find a place to live in Fisher's jock strap.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:26 PM
That dude looks like a skinny Ivan Drago.

ROFL

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:26 PM
Bryant chokes, misses a WIDE OPEN layup. WTF.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:27 PM
Bryant chokes, misses a WIDE OPEN layup. WTF.

There was more contact on that Kobe miss than on that last shot on the other end.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:28 PM
AK did probably the dumbest thing possible and fouls Kobe from beyond the arc.

Wow, that was monumentally dumb.

Spott
05-11-2008, 05:28 PM
You'd think after 12 years in the NBA Kobe would have learned that this is a team game.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:28 PM
Hey Milkman can you explain the league of avengers to me?

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:29 PM
You'd think after 12 years in the NBA Kobe would have learned that this is a team game.

He has been a lot better at that this year.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:29 PM
Deron needs to hit both of these. Gotta make your FTs.

Edit: Clutch.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:30 PM
Hey Milkman can you explain the league of avengers to me?

Never really cared much for DC Comics.

Don't know much about them.

I was always a Marvel man.

Fruit Ninja
05-11-2008, 05:31 PM
Eh, Kobe is ****ing hurt big time and he's still battling it out. Teams are doing what they are supposed to, defending home court. We played a bad 2 games and yet the Jazz barely won both. The lakers will be ok at home.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:32 PM
I wonder how Kobe's injury will play out in game 5. I want the Jazz to win but I want them to win when the Lakers are at full strength.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:32 PM
Never really cared much for DC Comics.

Don't know much about them.

I was always a Marvel man.

Ok what I mean is the ending to Iron Man after the credits.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 05:32 PM
Game.

I still think the Jazz are tough enough to hang with any team in the West, and I think they have the best shot of any team left in the playoffs of upsetting the Lakers.

Fruit Ninja
05-11-2008, 05:33 PM
I wonder how Kobe's injury will play out in game 5. I want the Jazz to win but I want them to win when the Lakers are at full strength.

I think he will be ok, he's going to pretty much has them 24 hour treatments on his back and i am sure he will get shot up with some painkillers lol

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:36 PM
Ok what I mean is the ending to Iron Man after the credits.

I assumed Avengers was DC, but looking around, I guess they are Marvel.

Don't remember them from my Comic reading days back in the 60s.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:36 PM
That was a damn good game.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:37 PM
I assumed Avengers was DC, but looking around, I guess they are Marvel.

Don't remember them from my Comic reading days back in the 60s.

Have you seen Iron Man yet?

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:42 PM
Game.

I still think the Jazz are tough enough to hang with any team in the West, and I think they have the best shot of any team left in the playoffs of upsetting the Lakers.

I think they can hang, but they can't win.

Physical teams like the Jaz can be dominating at home, but they won't get the benefit of non-calls on the road.

The Hornets, I think can beat the Lakers.

They don't have anyone that can match up against Paul defensively, and that'll put a lot pressure on the rest of the Laker defense.

milkman
05-11-2008, 05:42 PM
Have you seen Iron Man yet?

No, I haven't.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 05:55 PM
No, I haven't.

That's cool I found it on line.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 07:08 PM
The Spurs were able to outlast the Hornets in game three because Bowen locked down on Stoyakovich who was killing the Spurs from downtown.

What are the Hornets going to do today to counter?

Pretty much the only thing, I believe, that the Spurs can do is have Ginobli and Parker go for 30+ each. Normally I'd be opposed to this but there's virtually nothing the Hornets can do to stop either player.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 07:10 PM
I think CP3 can stop Parker.

Silock
05-11-2008, 07:34 PM
That was a damn good game.

Yeah.

Still, Kobe is by far the best player in the NBA right now.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 07:43 PM
Yeah.

Still, Kobe is by far the best player in the NBA right now.

I'd like to argue with you but I can't.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 07:44 PM
A good first quarter for both teams.

Hornets: Peja got some points, Pargo's got his stroke down, and Paul committed a couple turnovers, so he's likely going to be turnover free for the rest of the game. West is also playing well in the post.

Spurs: Duncan is finally getting it done in the post. Manu hasn't done much, but that will change before long. Parker is playing lights out, making virtually every shot he takes.

Spurs' outside shooters aren't making their shots, but that could change.

24-22, Spurs.

Direckshun
05-11-2008, 07:50 PM
The Hornets just have zero answers for Tim Duncan. They just double the guy, leaving a kickout wide open every time.

UteChief
05-11-2008, 08:48 PM
Is Duncan still dominating?

Fruit Ninja
05-11-2008, 08:56 PM
Everyone seems to be holding their own at home except for Orlando, and that other game was close. This is what the play offs are about. Win at home, and hope to steal a game on the road.

Basileus777
05-11-2008, 09:27 PM
The Spurs are doing they did against Phoenix in the past post-seasons (letting Amare score all he wants and stopping everyone else). Paul can score all he wants, everyone else is being contained and shut down.

Plus in game 1 and 2, the open shooters weren't hitting their shots when it mattered. In games 3 and 4, they are.. Finley and Bowen have hit timely shots. Parker's actually going to the basket, instead of just standing there like an idiot on the perimeter and not shooting when he was wide open. The defensive game plan has made wonders. No one can defend Paul, so instead of wasting Bowen's ability to defend Peja and getting killed by Paul on Bowen and Parker on Peja, Bowen was on Peja. Paul can do whatever he wants to do against Parker and Peja is being shut down by Bowen.

Fruit Ninja
05-12-2008, 02:35 PM
Thank god. Farmar lost his back up point guard spot to the Machine! Farmar is really a liability out there. He's been horrible the last month or 2.

the Talking Can
05-12-2008, 09:44 PM
James just juked Pierce and posterized Garnett....yikes


Pierce is choking big time in this game...

POND_OF_RED
05-12-2008, 10:30 PM
James just juked Pierce and posterized Garnett....yikes




That dunk was AMAZING! Especially since it was over the defensive player of the year.

POND_OF_RED
05-13-2008, 06:30 AM
We are all witnesses.
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Direckshun
05-13-2008, 12:57 PM
I just read an article on Foxsports.com that blamed Garnett for the Celtics' struggles. I won't even link it here because it's bullshit.

Garnett struggled yesterday, but he has been the only member of the Big Three that's shown up with any consistency. He's carried this team this far.

But Garnett HAS to find a way to keep Wallace off the boards.

Fruit Ninja
05-13-2008, 05:31 PM
Ariza was cleared to practice and another week until he can play. I think we may see him before that though.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-13-2008, 10:46 PM
How are the Hornets doing?

Pasta Giant Meatball
05-13-2008, 11:10 PM
How are the Hornets doing?

All hornets in the 2nd half. Home teams dominating this year.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-13-2008, 11:39 PM
Good. I hate the Spurs. I wasn't able to watch all of it.

Spott
05-14-2008, 07:24 PM
Celtics not looking to hot so far. Cavs up 16-9 and Lebron already has 11.

barry_smilez20
05-14-2008, 07:41 PM
i hate the spurs

Silock
05-14-2008, 08:04 PM
Celtics aren't done, yet. It would not surprise me to see them get knocked out, though.

Spott
05-14-2008, 08:09 PM
I can't believe the Celtics won 66 games this year. I think the only team they could beat in the west is Utah.

Fruit Ninja
05-14-2008, 09:57 PM
Well, Boston came back to win, but to think this team won 66 games? if you have watched the play offs you would say how.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 10:50 PM
Despite making a truckload of really lousy mistakes, the Jazz have made just enough spectacular plays to keep this close.

55-50 with a minute left in the first half, Boozer heading to the line for two.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 10:54 PM
Well the Jazz simply can't stop Gasol. It's like they have no conception of post defense. Okur and Boozer are really lousy on D.

They Deron Williams is keeping the Jazz close. Seven point Laker league, halftime.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-14-2008, 10:56 PM
The Lakers and the Celtics are the two most overrated teams in this year's playoffs.

ClevelandBronco
05-14-2008, 10:57 PM
LeBron was just completely taken out of his game today.

Celts escape with NO help from either of their small superstars, and they did it by negating LeBron.

Are the Cavs still in the playoffs? I'd look it up, but it against my nature to care about pro basketball.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:00 PM
Are the Cavs still in the playoffs? I'd look it up, but it against my nature to care about pro basketball.
Do you have some anti-NBA posting quota you have to fulfill every month?

It's the same punchline over and over again.

ClevelandBronco
05-14-2008, 11:02 PM
Do you have some anti-NBA posting quota you have to fulfill every month?

It's the same punchline over and over again.

It's probably not me that you're thinking of. That aside, are the Cavs still alive?

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:02 PM
The Lakers and the Celtics are the two most overrated teams in this year's playoffs.
Eh.... I think the Lakers are a great team, I just think Utah's built for playoff basketball.

They remain my prediction for Western Conference champions.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:02 PM
It's probably not me that you're thinking of.
I'm pretty sure that it is.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-14-2008, 11:04 PM
Eh.... I think the Lakers are a great team, I just think Utah's built for playoff basketball.

They remain my prediction for Western Conference champions.

"Great" is pushing it.

ClevelandBronco
05-14-2008, 11:07 PM
I'm pretty sure that it is.

Okay. Be pretty sure of whatever you wish. Are the Cavs dead or not?

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:09 PM
"Great" is pushing it.
They are the greatest offensive force in the NBA. They have the best #1 option in basketball, the best #2 option in basketball, and the best #3 option in basketball. They have the deepest bench in the league. They have one of the best coaches in the league. And they are capable of playing multiple styles.

The Laker's biggest hole is the same as the Jazz's -- their interior defense. But they can put up so many points, it doesn't matter.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-14-2008, 11:10 PM
Okay. Are the Cavs dead or not?

They lost tonight at Boston. The Celtics lead the series 3-2 now with game six being played in Cleveland Friday night.

It'll go seven games with Boston winning the series, then they'll get swept by the Pistons unfortunately. I hate the Pistons.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:10 PM
Okay be pretty sure of whatever you wish. Are the Cavs dead or not?
You keep editing this post so it's hard to know what I'm replying to, so I'll assume you won't edit the post any more after this.

The Cavs aren't dead for two reasons: LeBron woke up in Game 5 and he could bring his elite game for the remainder of the series, and the Celtics can't win on the road, and flirted with giving this game away at home.

ClevelandBronco
05-14-2008, 11:11 PM
The thing is: If I have to climb on their bandwagon, I want some notice.

Otherwise, I'll continue not to give a shit.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-14-2008, 11:13 PM
They are the greatest offensive force in the NBA. They have the best #1 option in basketball, the best #2 option in basketball, and the best #3 option in basketball. They have the deepest bench in the league. They have one of the best coaches in the league. And they are capable of playing multiple styles.

The Laker's biggest hole is the same as the Jazz's -- their interior defense. But they can put up so many points, it doesn't matter.

Their lack of an interior defense will cause them to not win the championship. I could give two shits about "the greatest offensive force" if I'm the Pistons. No defense, no title. That's the way it goes.

They do play defense, at times, but their lack of consistency in that area is what's going to end their season without a title.

They are not "great."

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:14 PM
Their lack of an interior defense will cause them to not win the championship. I could give two shits about "the greatest offensive force" if I'm the Pistons. No defense, no title. That's the way it goes.

They do play defense, at times, but their lack of consistency in that area is what's going to end their season without a title.

They are not "great."
I actually agree with everything here, for whatever it's worth. lol

I'm betting the Jazz pull this off.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-14-2008, 11:27 PM
OMG did you see that pass by Deron Williams?

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:36 PM
I'm telling you, for every amazing play the Jazz pull off, they commit and equally retarded mistake.

AK47 gobbles up a pass Derek Fisher tosses to Kobe. Effortless, brilliant.

Passes it to D-Will who steps out of bounds.

Oy.

They're lucky to be down by just two. If they can eliminate these stupid mistakes, this is their game. The Lakers are hitting them with everything and they just keep coming back.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-14-2008, 11:37 PM
The Jazz are making this a game now.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-14-2008, 11:39 PM
I'm telling you, for every amazing play the Jazz pull off, they commit and equally retarded mistake.

AK47 gobbles up a pass Derek Fisher tosses to Kobe. Effortless, brilliant.

Passes it to D-Will who steps out of bounds.

Oy.

They're lucky to be down by just two. If they can eliminate these stupid mistakes, this is their game. The Lakers are hitting them with everything and they just keep coming back.

Yep, this is going to be tight down the stretch.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:40 PM
I love Brewer, man. He's a big guy's little guy.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:41 PM
I will say that I am incredibly surprised at how well AK47 has contained Kobe. Kobe always has a step on him but AK can play him soft and he's tall enough to contest a jumper.

He's out right now, so Kobe's just going to town on Brewer and Harpring.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:42 PM
Yeah, the Jazz rotations by their big men are just piss poor. They just never help out each other in time.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:45 PM
Walton just looks awful on both sides of the floor anymore.

Direckshun
05-14-2008, 11:45 PM
OH MY, we've got a game.

81-81, END OF THE THIRD.

PLAYOFFS, BABY. GO JAZZ GO.

Mecca
05-14-2008, 11:47 PM
Cheering for the Jazz......does this mean you want the Hornets or Spurs to be NBA champs?

Basileus777
05-14-2008, 11:50 PM
The Jazz are the worst matchup for the Hornets. The Jazz own the Hornets. New Orleans would rather play the Lakers.

Mecca
05-14-2008, 11:51 PM
Well I wanna see Kobe vs Paul......so I want the Lakers and Hornets to both win their games.

L.A. Chieffan
05-14-2008, 11:53 PM
You don't see this lineup very often

Basileus777
05-14-2008, 11:54 PM
Whitest line up on the floor right now, this has to be history in the making....

Mecca
05-14-2008, 11:55 PM
The Lakers are buying Kobe and Odom some time and still staying ahead.

Basileus777
05-14-2008, 11:55 PM
Jazz can't seem to buy a lead.

L.A. Chieffan
05-14-2008, 11:55 PM
Whitest line up on the floor right now, this has to be history in the making....

I think Farmars got a little brotha in him but yeah

Basileus777
05-14-2008, 11:59 PM
Odom has been awful on defense this series. He's been abused by Okur, and he just got owned by Ak.

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:00 AM
Kobe sux...ballhogs

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:01 AM
Nice hustle by Ak but he's just a dumb commie

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:02 AM
aww poor jazz arent getting all the fouls anymore...

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:02 AM
machine

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:03 AM
haha phil ivey is going crazy

Mecca
05-15-2008, 12:04 AM
Boozer with a really stupid foul there, should have just let Odom go he had that dunk either way.

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:04 AM
Odom is owning these ****s on teh backdoor

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:05 AM
awww poor boozer. shoulda came to the lakers like 3 years ago when u had the chance. bitch.

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 12:06 AM
The whole 2nd half of the season Odom has been playing like an All-Star. He's tearing shit up.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 12:07 AM
This is why Odom is so much more effective at the 4. He is a mismatch with his quickness, and he isn't a liability on defense or rebounding because of his length. He sucks at small forward because he doesn't have a jumpshot and he isn't quick enough to blow past other 3s for his patented left-handed layup.

Bill S Preston
05-15-2008, 12:07 AM
Lakers sure have gotten the calls here in the fourth. The refs make the NBA unwatchable, time for Mythbusters......

Mecca
05-15-2008, 12:08 AM
This is why Odom is so much more effective at the 4. He is a mismatch with his quickness, and he isn't a liability on defense or rebounding because of his length. He sucks at small forward because he doesn't have a jumpshot and he isn't quick enough to blow past other 3s for his patented left-handed layup.

Either way when that team is able to play with Bynum they'll be scary with all the matchup issues they can cause.

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 12:08 AM
Lakers sure have gotten the calls here in the fourth. The refs make the NBA unwatchable, time for Mythbusters......

Its like that for both teams when they are at home.

Mecca
05-15-2008, 12:10 AM
Lakers sure have gotten the calls here in the fourth. The refs make the NBA unwatchable, time for Mythbusters......

The FT shooting is pretty close..

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 12:12 AM
Its like that for both teams when they are at home.

Yep. The Jazz get away with all that pushing, holding, reaching at home. Utah gets called for a lot of fouls because thats how they play defense, by hacking at people.

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:12 AM
if youre gonna foul dont foul fish

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:13 AM
lame play

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 12:13 AM
Can Boozer do anything right? SMH

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:14 AM
nice ass in the yellow there...

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:18 AM
money

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:19 AM
vujicic? cmon

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 12:19 AM
SASHA NO!

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:19 AM
korvers a dbag

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:20 AM
jeebus

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:20 AM
thats why hes MVP bitches

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 12:21 AM
I wonder if Vailpass still thinks Kobe never passes the ball and is a bad teammate....

Oh wait, he doesn't watch actually NBA games or he would know better....

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:22 AM
dumb turk thats game

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:23 AM
**** shaq 3-2 Lakers baby

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 12:23 AM
Gasol with 2 clutch offensive rebounds and seals the game with that dunk.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-15-2008, 12:23 AM
They aren't calling anything on the Lakers. They're giving it to them.

And Gasol looks like he has a cocaine addiction.

L.A. Chieffan
05-15-2008, 12:23 AM
They aren't calling anything on the Lakers. They're giving it to them.

And Gasol looks like he has a cocaine addiction.

Lame.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 12:25 AM
Boozer didn't get called for his push-offs in Utah, so Jazz fans can't complain about that Gasol push-off. The Jazz push off more than any other team. They commit the most fouls. A Jazz fan complaining about push-offs would be like a Spurs fan complaining about flopping.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-15-2008, 12:26 AM
Lame.

I agree, drugs are bad.

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 12:29 AM
They won despite Kobe not being Kobe. This is a pretty good win. Didnt look like he re-tweaked his back. Should be better for game 6.

ChiefaRoo
05-15-2008, 12:32 AM
Great gut check game by the Lakers. Utah is a good team but the Lakers hung tough, withstood Kobe's back and Deron Williams playing like a madman. Great game.

88TG88
05-15-2008, 12:33 AM
w00t lakers

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 12:33 AM
Carlos Boozer is a bum. I don't know what happened to him, but he's been an embarrassment in the playoffs....

ChiefsFanatic
05-15-2008, 01:21 AM
And Gasol looks like he has a cocaine addiction.

I think he looks like a young Phil Jackson.
http://www.deportesadictos.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/gasol-copa-oro.jpghttp://graphics.fansonly.com/schools/bhof/graphics/bhof_phil_jackson_wide.jpg

ChiefsFanatic
05-15-2008, 01:23 AM
I wonder if Vailpass still thinks Kobe never passes the ball and is a bad teammate....

Oh wait, he doesn't watch actually NBA games or he would know better....

Kobe was not a decent teammate until this year. Last few years he would take 45 shots a game, and then when people talked about too many shots and not enough passes, he would go long stretches taking no shots. He did not even want to come back to LA this year.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 01:43 AM
Kobe was not a decent teammate until this year. Last few years he would take 45 shots a game, and then when people talked about too many shots and not enough passes, he would go long stretches taking no shots. He did not even want to come back to LA this year.

Talk about hyperbole. Kobe took two less shots per game this year and averaged the same number of assists. Long stretches? You mean one playoff game against Phoenix?

No one complains about LeBron being a ballhog even though he dominates the ball all game long (something Kobe has never done). And for good reason, the Cavs wouldn't be better off with West and Wally handling the ball or taking more shots. But Kobe is blamed for taking shots instead of deferring to Smush, Kwame, Walton, etc.

Kobe was never a poor teammate, at least on the court. Its a lot easier to trust Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, and Derrick Fisher than it is the likes of Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. The difference isn't really Kobe, its who is around him. Kobe was making the players around him better just as he has been doing this year by creating open looks for others. He plays in the triangle and doesn't dominate the ball quite that much so he doesn't he get gaudy assist totals like LeBron, but Kobe has always made him teammates better.

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 01:46 AM
Kobe was not a decent teammate until this year. Last few years he would take 45 shots a game, and then when people talked about too many shots and not enough passes, he would go long stretches taking no shots. He did not even want to come back to LA this year.

lol, your totally wrong, back in the Shaq days he had NO problem sharing. The team turned to crap after 2004 season. He had no choice but to shoot becuase he had Kwame Brown and Smush Parker. They are both Horrible.

This year, his team mates actually came of age and started playing as a team. He has learned to trust them better. Also, he never wanted to leave. He just didnt want to play with a shitty team. Remember Batman always needed a Robin

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 01:48 AM
Talk about hyperbole. Kobe took two less shots per game this year and averaged the same number of assists. Long stretches? You mean one playoff game against Phoenix?

No one complains about LeBron being a ballhog even though he dominates the ball all game long (something Kobe has never done). And for good reason, the Cavs wouldn't be better off with West and Wally handling the ball or taking more shots. But Kobe is blamed for taking shots instead of deferring to Smush, Kwame, Walton, etc.

Kobe was never a poor teammate, at least on the court. Its a lot easier to trust Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, and Derrick Fisher than it is the likes of Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. The difference isn't really Kobe, its who is around him. Kobe was making the players around him better just as he has been doing this year by creating open looks for others. He plays in the triangle and doesn't dominate the ball quite that much so he doesn't he get gaudy assist totals like LeBron, but Kobe has always made him teammates better.
People also love to forget that Jordan was the SAME exact way when he was younger. He had horrible team mates. Once his team mates turned into good players, they wont on a championship run. People just want to see what they want is all.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-15-2008, 01:53 AM
Take up for Kobe all you want people, just don't put him in the same sentence as MJ. MJ is the best ever, Kobe is far from that.

He can't even touch MJ.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 01:57 AM
Take up for Kobe all you want people, just don't put him in the same sentence as MJ. MJ is the best ever, Kobe is far from that.

He can't even touch MJ.

Obviously Kobe isn't as good as MJ. Jordan is the GOAT, Kobe is in the 13-20 range. I think Kobe can surpass Jerry West if he continues to play at a high level for some more years and wins another championship, but he won't touch Jordan.

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 01:59 AM
Hell, i would put Kobe at number 2 already. There is no other player outside of MJ that can do what Kobe can do. Kobe is only 29 as well. Still had 5 years left in him of good play if he doesnt get seriously hurt.

Buck
05-15-2008, 02:07 AM
I dont know what you guys are arguing about, but I think a Lakers-Hornets Series would be epic.

ChiefsFanatic
05-15-2008, 03:10 AM
Hell, i would put Kobe at number 2 already. There is no other player outside of MJ that can do what Kobe can do. Kobe is only 29 as well. Still had 5 years left in him of good play if he doesnt get seriously hurt.

I have Wilt Chamberlain at #2. You can argue that all you want, but behind MJ, he is the most dominant player of all time. He may not have all the titles, because, like Kobe, he was saddled with some pretty bad teams. He never fouled out of a game in his career, and is the only center in the history of the NBA to lead the league in assists. Kobe, as great as he is (and I HATE to admit that) is not even in the top 10 all-time.

DaneMcCloud
05-15-2008, 03:40 AM
I have Wilt Chamberlain at #2. You can argue that all you want, but behind MJ, he is the most dominant player of all time. He may not have all the titles, because, like Kobe, he was saddled with some pretty bad teams. He never fouled out of a game in his career, and is the only center in the history of the NBA to lead the league in assists. Kobe, as great as he is (and I HATE to admit that) is not even in the top 10 all-time.

Really? "Hate to admit that". Why?

I think you haven't watched enough basketball if you think that 29 year-old Kobe Bryant (he of THREE championship rings) isn't Top Ten All-Time.

The "Top Ten" is ever changing (see LeBron) but give me a ****ing break.

Kobe is to this decade as Jordan was to the 90's.

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 03:44 AM
Wilt was a different time with less athletic players. Not to say he couldnt be great in todays game, but i think the competition is much much better. Just my opinion.

Anyways, i just ordred me this..

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MVP MVP!

DaneMcCloud
05-15-2008, 04:07 AM
Wilt was a different time with less athletic players. Not to say he couldnt be great in todays game, but i think the competition is much much better. Just my opinion.

Anyways, i just ordred me this..

http://www.nike.com/index.jhtml?l=nikestore,home#l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-195073/pid-195073,_grid,s-Kobe&re=US&co=US&la=EN

MVP MVP!

It's difficult to compare players of different eras but if Wilt's body held up (which is difficult to project, considering the toll that today's game takes on current players), he'd still be a HOFer.

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 04:16 AM
It's difficult to compare players of different eras but if Wilt's body held up (which is difficult to project, considering the toll that today's game takes on current players), he'd still be a HOFer.

I agree, but averaging 50 points a game and getting 100 just would not happen. I think the only big man in the last 20 years to even get 70 points was David Robinson on the last day of the season to win the scoring title. The gameplan was for him to get that many just so he can win it.

Like you said, its hard to compare, i am not saying he couldnt succeed now, but there is no way in hell he's going to be that dominate. Just is not going to happen.

DaneMcCloud
05-15-2008, 04:19 AM
Like you said, its hard to compare, i am not saying he couldnt succeed now, but there is no way in hell he's going to be that dominate. Just is not going to happen.

That dominate?

Not likely.

A game changing, championship winning player?

More than likely.

Amnorix
05-15-2008, 07:00 AM
I have Wilt Chamberlain at #2. You can argue that all you want, but behind MJ, he is the most dominant player of all time. He may not have all the titles, because, like Kobe, he was saddled with some pretty bad teams. He never fouled out of a game in his career, and is the only center in the history of the NBA to lead the league in assists. Kobe, as great as he is (and I HATE to admit that) is not even in the top 10 all-time.

Never fouling out of a game isn't a prize of distinction.

The some of his teams that DIDN'T win it all had plenty of talent. The Celtics had more, and Auerbach (for some of them), and the GREATEST team player in the history of sports -- Bill Russell.

Amnorix
05-15-2008, 07:02 AM
Wilt was a different time with less athletic players. Not to say he couldnt be great in todays game, but i think the competition is much much better. Just my opinion.

Anyways, i just ordred me this..

http://www.nike.com/index.jhtml?l=nikestore,home#l=nikestore,grid,_pdp,cid-1/gid-195073/pid-195073,_grid,s-Kobe&re=US&co=US&la=EN

MVP MVP!


You're frackin' insane.

He was 7'2" at a time when nobody was that tall, and that's still plenty tall enough these days. He was also monstrously strong. Insanely strong. Russell, who was no slouch, mentions it several times when talking about Wilt.

His achilles heel was free throws, but he would be a GIANT in any era of basketball.

Amnorix
05-15-2008, 07:03 AM
That dominate?

Not likely.

A game changing, championship winning player?

More than likely.

Especially these days, when 2 great players equals championship contender. Back then, before the talent was diluted among too many teams, it took more than 2 to have a serious chance. The Celtics teams that kept winning were ridiculously loaded.

ChiefsFanatic
05-15-2008, 09:05 AM
Really? "Hate to admit that". Why?

I think you haven't watched enough basketball if you think that 29 year-old Kobe Bryant (he of THREE championship rings) isn't Top Ten All-Time.

The "Top Ten" is ever changing (see LeBron) but give me a ****ing break.

Kobe is to this decade as Jordan was to the 90's.

In no particular order:

Bill Russell
Kareem
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Julius Erving
Michael Jordan
Wilt Chamberlain
Karl Malone
Shaq
Oscar Robertson

About the only one on this list you could argue is Karl Malone, but I consider him the greatest power foward of all time, and he is the second leading scorer in NBA history.

ChiefsFanatic
05-15-2008, 09:08 AM
Kobe is to this decade as Jordan was to the 90's.

This is just a stupid statement. Jordan won 6 rings in an 8 year span, and if not for the baseball crap, probably would have won 8 rings in 8 years. Kobe is not even close to that. Tim Duncan would be a closer comparison than Kobe.

Amnorix
05-15-2008, 09:08 AM
In no particular order:

Bill Russell
Kareem
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Julius Erving
Michael Jordan
Wilt Chamberlain
Karl Malone
Shaq
Oscar Robertson

About the only one on this list you could argue is Karl Malone, but I consider him the greatest power foward of all time, and he is the second leading scorer in NBA history.

I'm pretty good with this list. I tend to think that Dr. J and Karl Malone are the two guys most in danger of falling off for Kobe or whoever, when next one gets added.

ChiefsFanatic
05-15-2008, 09:16 AM
I'm pretty good with this list. I tend to think that Dr. J and Karl Malone are the two guys most in danger of falling off for Kobe or whoever, when next one gets added.

I would probably boot Dr. J off first. I am not saying that Kobe won't be in the top 10, but he is not there yet. I think Tim Duncan could be on the list soon as well. Tim has been the catalyst for 4 championships for his team (David Robinson was at the end of his career for number one,) but Kobe played second fiddle, or fiddle 1a to Shaq for his three.

Amnorix
05-15-2008, 09:39 AM
I would probably boot Dr. J off first. I am not saying that Kobe won't be in the top 10, but he is not there yet. I think Tim Duncan could be on the list soon as well. Tim has been the catalyst for 4 championships for his team (David Robinson was at the end of his career for number one,) but Kobe played second fiddle, or fiddle 1a to Shaq for his three.

I wouldn't dispute getting Duncan and Kobe on there somehow. Bird and Russell aren't in any danger of getting kicked off as a result. :D

Amnorix
05-15-2008, 09:41 AM
Actually, on second look, I'm not sure I can't give the nod to Elgin Baylor or Jerry West over Dr. J. Baylor's knee screwed up the second part of hsi career, so maybe West. I dunno, it's tough.

And I despise the Lakers, so that ought to say soemthing.

ChiefsFanatic
05-15-2008, 09:48 AM
Actually, on second look, I'm not sure I can't give the nod to Elgin Baylor or Jerry West over Dr. J. Baylor's knee screwed up the second part of hsi career, so maybe West. I dunno, it's tough.

And I despise the Lakers, so that ought to say soemthing.

I think you could make a case for both those guys on the top 10. That is even more proof that Kobe has a way to go.

I am only 37, so I did not get to see Dr. J in his prime really, but I remember watching him choke Larry Bird. Bird was torching him, and Larry is one of the all-time trash talkers (I have seen many interviews where players have said this) and I guess he said something like "Hey old man, if you don't guard me I am going to put 60 on you" plus I guess he had been dishing it out all game, and Dr. J just snapped and grabbed his throat.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 10:54 AM
The reason stats from the 60s and 70s seem so impossible is because of pace. Teams played at a pace unheard of today. The Suns and Warriors would be the slowest teams in the league back then. Plus Wilt played an insane amount of minutes. In his 50 ppg season he played 48 minutes per game. The competition wasn't really worse, not when you consider there were ~20 less teams than today. Wilt played against a hall of fame center in most of his games, talk about playing against Russell, Lanier, Thurmond, Reed for 60 games a year... Thats completely different than today where there are only two centerss, Yao and Howard, that are anything more than role-players.

Thinking Wilt would be anything but the best player in the league today is crazy. Dwight Howard puts up 20/14 in todays league on just athleticism and no offensive skills. What if Dwight Howard were to grow 2 inches, pack on about 20-30 pounds of muscle, improve his defensive timing and instincts, develop a full array of post moves, a jumper out to 15 feet, improve his passing and most of all being able to handle multiple defenders, possibly better than anyone in NBA history??

That would be scary right?? Nah, that would just be Wilt. I don't think he would average 50 points and 20+ rebounds, thats impossible in todays pace. But he would be a 30+ ppg scorer and lead the league in rebounds.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 11:17 AM
I'd put my top ten list like this (in order):

Jordan
Wilt
Kareem
Russell
Magic
Bird
Hakeem
Shaq
Duncan
Oscar


Its very difficult for guards to make this list, they simply don't have the impact on the game big men do. I don't see Kobe passing anyone on this list except maybe Oscar.

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 11:36 AM
WHY ISN'T ANYBODY MENTIONING GEORGE MIKAN.

MR. BASKETBALL.

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Miles
05-15-2008, 01:28 PM
WHY ISN'T ANYBODY MENTIONING GEORGE MIKAN.

MR. BASKETBALL.


The age of that video should give you an idea of why.

ChiefsFanatic
05-15-2008, 02:59 PM
I really thought my Gasol-Jackson comparison would get at least one comment. I mean, they really do look alike.

Gasol looks like a younger Jackson (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4751154&postcount=677)

the Talking Can
05-15-2008, 04:14 PM
The reason stats from the 60s and 70s seem so impossible is because of pace. Teams played at a pace unheard of today. The Suns and Warriors would be the slowest teams in the league back then. Plus Wilt played an insane amount of minutes. In his 50 ppg season he played 48 minutes per game. The competition wasn't really worse, not when you consider there were ~20 less teams than today. Wilt played against a hall of fame center in most of his games, talk about playing against Russell, Lanier, Thurmond, Reed for 60 games a year... Thats completely different than today where there are only two centerss, Yao and Howard, that are anything more than role-players.

Thinking Wilt would be anything but the best player in the league today is crazy. Dwight Howard puts up 20/14 in todays league on just athleticism and no offensive skills. What if Dwight Howard were to grow 2 inches, pack on about 20-30 pounds of muscle, improve his defensive timing and instincts, develop a full array of post moves, a jumper out to 15 feet, improve his passing and most of all being able to handle multiple defenders, possibly better than anyone in NBA history??

That would be scary right?? Nah, that would just be Wilt. I don't think he would average 50 points and 20+ rebounds, thats impossible in todays pace. But he would be a 30+ ppg scorer and lead the league in rebounds.


Wilt's turds are better than Dwight Howard.

Amnorix
05-15-2008, 04:16 PM
I think you could make a case for both those guys on the top 10. That is even more proof that Kobe has a way to go.

I am only 37, so I did not get to see Dr. J in his prime really, but I remember watching him choke Larry Bird. Bird was torching him, and Larry is one of the all-time trash talkers (I have seen many interviews where players have said this) and I guess he said something like "Hey old man, if you don't guard me I am going to put 60 on you" plus I guess he had been dishing it out all game, and Dr. J just snapped and grabbed his throat.


errr....don't remember this. I remember the pathetic slap fight the 2 had. Kinda sad really.

ChiefsFanatic
05-15-2008, 04:20 PM
errr....don't remember this. I remember the pathetic slap fight the 2 had. Kinda sad really.

Defiantely a different episode. It was Birds rookie year, I believe. I did not see it live, but on ESPN Classic. They showed the game, did little interviews with the players, etc.

Amnorix
05-15-2008, 04:51 PM
Defiantely a different episode. It was Birds rookie year, I believe. I did not see it live, but on ESPN Classic. They showed the game, did little interviews with the players, etc.


Right, ok. I don't know a thing about it.

P.S. -- I agree that Bird was a huge trash talker. HUGE. Reveled in it.

Two quick stories on Bird's on-court chatter.

1. late in the game Bird is at the foul line, and a rookie Reggie Miller is trying to get into Larry's head, barking at him. Larry swishes the first, looks at Miller and says something like "Rook -- I am the greatest shooter in this league. Got that. THE GREATEST. And you're going to talk to me. Shut it rook" and swishes the second.

(the Hick did not lack for confidence).

2. playing Seattle late in the 4th and trailing by 1 (or tied) he told Xavier McDaniel exactly WHERE he was going to hit the game-winning shot, over McDaniel. Celtics in-bound the ball, pass it around, comes to Bird, at the spot he told McDaniel. Swish. Game.


As Magic said in an interview -- "sometimes young black guys ask me 'was Bird really that good?' And I tell him, 'let me tell you, he was so good it was scary'.

Amnorix
05-15-2008, 04:52 PM
Another Bird story -- at some point mid/late in his career, Michael Jordan was asked who, other than himself, he'd want to take a game winning shot if the game/season was on the line. Before the guy even answered the question, Jordan said "Bird".

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 07:26 PM
Watching the ESPN ramp-up to the game.

I love how when Kobe shoots too much, analysts say "it's the same ol' Kobe, the guy can't win without Shaq because it's all about him."

Then after a game when he passes a lot, analysts say "Kobe has learned to trust his teammates."

Nobody can make a one-game analysis anymore, it's all got to be career trajectory shit.

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 07:26 PM
By the way, more Bird trash talking stories please...

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 07:31 PM
Well folks, Spurs/Hornets tonight, go Paul go. I can't help but think the Spurs will win this series, and I'd love someone to allay me of my paranoia.

I just think the Bowen-on-Petarsoejdsdovich strategy is iron-clad. The Hornets were only able to win one of the last three games that the Spurs were exercising it, and West had to have a superhuman effort to pull it off. I don't think West has another one of those in store for the Spurs.

Wish them luck, though.

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 08:34 PM
36-23 after one quarter, Spurs. This ****ing sucks.

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 09:10 PM
First half has been, and imaginably the entire game will be, cat-and-mouse.

Spurs jut out to a big lead. Hornets bring it close. Big lead Spurs. Hornets bring it close.

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 09:14 PM
Yeah, the Spurs are just up seven at the half, but this game is theirs.

The big three combined for 39 points, and are all playing well. That's really all you need to know.

88TG88
05-15-2008, 09:35 PM
Another Bird story -- at some point mid/late in his career, Michael Jordan was asked who, other than himself, he'd want to take a game winning shot if the game/season was on the line. Before the guy even answered the question, Jordan said "Bird".

pshhh

"Magic is a great, great basketball player," Bird stated flatly, settling the issue for the moment. "The best I've ever seen."

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 09:37 PM
ROFL @ Paul

jidar
05-15-2008, 09:43 PM
Why the hell is West still in? He got 2 quick fouls sit him the **** down so he can calm down, you leave a pissed player in that got 2 quick and that's what happens, he gets a 3rd and T. FFS. What the **** kind of Mickey Mouse coaching is this?

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 09:43 PM
This is why I can't like the Hornets, their two best players are whiny bitches.

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 09:44 PM
Yeah, the Spurs will just play cat and mouse for the rest of the game.

You've seen one Spurs win, you've seen them all.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 09:47 PM
Thankfully you can mute Mark Jackson pretty easily, every cliche he rambles lasts about 7 seconds.

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 09:48 PM
Spurs aren't missing from down town.

Which is pretty easy when you're wide ****ing open every time.

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 09:49 PM
Jeff Van Gundy: "I don't call him CP3, I call him MVP!!!!111"

Me: *cries*

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 09:54 PM
Hornets just getting raped on the boards.

How is this just an eight point game?

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 09:56 PM
Spurs just aren't missing their wide open shots from down town.

I haven't seen them miss once.

Direckshun
05-15-2008, 09:58 PM
Game. Whatever.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 10:05 PM
What a strange playoffs this year. Its always the 3rd quarter, whoever wins the 3rd quarter wins the game...

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 10:07 PM
LMAO @ at the crowd chanting Horry.

Mecca
05-15-2008, 10:07 PM
And now Horry throws the forearm in to Wests back.....and people wonder why the Spurs are disliked and considered a dirty team.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 10:11 PM
And now Horry throws the forearm in to Wests back.....and people wonder why the Spurs are disliked and considered a dirty team.

That wasn't dirty. It was barely anything.

Mecca
05-15-2008, 10:11 PM
I'm sorry, the history of that team, Bruce Bowen and Robert Horry are dirty players.

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 10:12 PM
Who cares, this is play off basketball. They win finals for a reason. Do whatever it takes.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm sorry, the history of that team, Bruce Bowen and Robert Horry are dirty players.

I'll give you Bowen, but Horry had one "dirty" play. And even that thing against Nash wasn't as bad as it was made out to be. He just hip-checked him and Nash flopped.

Mecca
05-15-2008, 10:13 PM
Who cares, this is play off basketball. They win finals for a reason. Do whatever it takes.

I'd bet you'd have that view if Bowen stuck his foot under Kobe when he was coming down from a shot....and don't think he wouldn't do it.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 10:15 PM
I'd bet you'd have that view if Bowen stuck his foot under Kobe when he was coming down from a shot....and don't think he wouldn't do it.

Thats a flawed comparison, Bowen doing that would be intentionally trying to seriously injure Kobe. Horry just gave a small shove and West got hurt.

Mecca
05-15-2008, 10:16 PM
Thats a flawed comparison, Bowen doing that would be intentionally trying to seriously injure Kobe. Horry just gave a small shove and West got hurt.

Just throwing something out I've seen Bowen do numerous times...

I really don't like the Spurs, from Bowen's dirty shit to Manu flopping around like a fish to Tim Duncan throwing his hands out expecting a foul on every shot he misses.

Deberg_1990
05-15-2008, 10:18 PM
I really don't like the Spurs, from Bowen's dirty shit to Manu flopping around like a fish to Tim Duncan throwing his hands out expecting a foul on every shot he misses.

Yes, because no other players on any other NBA teams ever do these things.

Mecca
05-15-2008, 10:19 PM
Yes, because no other players on any other NBA teams ever do these things.

I'm sorry, that team is highly uninteresting to me, and when I watch them I don't get excited.

If they made flopping a foul which I think they should Manu would last about a half.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 10:20 PM
Just throwing something out I've seen Bowen do numerous times...

I really don't like the Spurs, from Bowen's dirty shit to Manu flopping around like a fish to Tim Duncan throwing his hands out expecting a foul on every shot he misses.

I agree that Bowen is dirty. I just don't think Horry is.

I understand why you don't like the Spurs, its somewhat similar to why I don't like New Orleans. Chris Paul's flopping, especially on dead-ball situations and Paul and West's general whiny attitude and sense of entitlement turn me off.

Mecca
05-15-2008, 10:22 PM
I don't like the Pistons either, a Spurs/Pistons final is the most uninteresting matchup ever, plus I wanna see Kobe vs Paul..

Anything but Spurs/Pistons thats all I ask.

Deberg_1990
05-15-2008, 10:23 PM
I'm sorry, that team is highly uninteresting to me, and when I watch them I don't get excited.



What makes a team "interesting" to you?

Do they need some thugs to provide some soap opera drama? Would that help?

Deberg_1990
05-15-2008, 10:24 PM
Anything but Spurs/Pistons thats all I ask.

That 2005 Spurs/Pistons finals was great! 7 games down to the wire.

How about that 2004 Lakers/Pistons final??? ROFL

Mecca
05-15-2008, 10:26 PM
What makes a team "interesting" to you?

Do they need some thugs to provide some soap opera drama? Would that help?

It's not even remotely that, it's just that they aren't exciting at all.

Manu Ginobili is somehow good when he seriously looks like the most uncoordinated person on the planet.

And I have always liked Kevin Garnett a million times more than Tim Duncan.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 10:28 PM
What team are you a fan of Mecca? I seem to remember you rooting for Phoenix in years past...

Mecca
05-15-2008, 10:30 PM
What team are you a fan of Mecca? I seem to remember you rooting for Phoenix in years past...

I don't have a "team" persay, I prefer athletic teams to ones like the Spurs though.

Fruit Ninja
05-15-2008, 10:53 PM
I'd bet you'd have that view if Bowen stuck his foot under Kobe when he was coming down from a shot....and don't think he wouldn't do it.

I have seen it already from Bell. Its play off basketball. He clothelined him a few years ago. Go youtube it.



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There youtubed it for you. Its play off basketball.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-15-2008, 11:21 PM
The playoffs have been kind of crap, actually.

No team has stepped up, which can be a good thing, but a bad thing.

The only team, sadly, that has shown they can win on the road is the Pistons. I echo everyone in this thread...the Pistons and the Spurs making it to the Finals is the worst thing that could happen. It's good basketball, but it doesn't garner a lot of viewers. What that says, I'm not sure.

Basileus777
05-15-2008, 11:27 PM
The playoffs have been pretty lackluster. The expectations were too high, too many people were hyping up the West as the best conference ever. The first game of the playoffs has been the highpoint so far.