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Rudy lost the toss
05-15-2008, 10:55 PM
Im tired of blowouts. Every game is a blowout. WTF??? 20/21 or whatever games for the home team is disgusting. Im a rockets fan so I envy that home court advantage, but atleast they went to Utah and won a damn game.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-15-2008, 11:11 PM
Yeah the playoffs have been completely watered down this year. With the exception of that first game, Suns vs. Spurs, they've all been crap games.

the Talking Can
05-16-2008, 05:07 AM
that was a dirty ass play by Horry....his only intention was to injure West....

mission accomplished

Direckshun
05-16-2008, 08:51 AM
I don't think all the games have been crap, I think a lot of them have been thrilling.

The main issue for me is that a lot of these great teams are playing WAAAAAY too inconsistently, which is denying me a great matchup.

I want to see Hornets at their best vs. Spurs at their best, for example, but all I'm seeing are the teams taking turns, with one team playing at their best and the other team inexplicably shitting down their leg. THAT'S not exciting. Maybe one game out of the six have featured both teams playing well.

Same thing with Cavs-Celtics, only one game out of five where both teams showed up. Utah-Lakers same thing.

Amnorix
05-16-2008, 09:07 AM
pshhh


Yes -- Magic and Bird had tremendous mutual respect for each other. Tremendous.

Amnorix
05-16-2008, 10:32 AM
The called shot on X McDaniel starts at 3:35 of this video, which is a compilation fo all his buzzer-beaters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OG3PhdFK-M&feature=related

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 11:09 AM
that was a dirty ass play by Horry....his only intention was to injure West....

mission accomplished

Wait. So Horry, in the split second before West went backwards, computed in his mind that West's back was bad and that he should try and pinch his nerve or whatever? Yeah, ok..

Horry didn't do anything but set a back screen, it was barely a foul. It wasn't an intentionally harmful play at all. It's not like he stuck out a fore arm or elbow. He leaned slightly forward, to brace for the impact of a big guy coming at him. He's trying to lay a screen for Manu so he can get off a shot or pass the ball. It wouldn't have been anything if West hadn't already been hurt. What, because West's back is sore the Spurs should play him with kid gloves? They shouldn't have thrown any contact his way because of his sore back? Should NBA players change their strategy so it can be "more fair" for the injured player? If your back is so hurt that you can't take that kind of contact, don't step on the floor.

We've gotten to a point in this league where people have a problem with players setting picks! Pussified.

BIG_DADDY
05-16-2008, 01:13 PM
Wait. So Horry, in the split second before West went backwards, computed in his mind that West's back was bad and that he should try and pinch his nerve or whatever? Yeah, ok..

Horry didn't do anything but set a back screen, it was barely a foul. It wasn't an intentionally harmful play at all. It's not like he stuck out a fore arm or elbow. He leaned slightly forward, to brace for the impact of a big guy coming at him. He's trying to lay a screen for Manu so he can get off a shot or pass the ball. It wouldn't have been anything if West hadn't already been hurt. What, because West's back is sore the Spurs should play him with kid gloves? They shouldn't have thrown any contact his way because of his sore back? Should NBA players change their strategy so it can be "more fair" for the injured player? If your back is so hurt that you can't take that kind of contact, don't step on the floor.

We've gotten to a point in this league where people have a problem with players setting picks! Pussified.
Dude backed right into Horry

Fruit Ninja
05-16-2008, 01:54 PM
Ariza may play tonight. WOOHOO. Some defense.

BIG_DADDY
05-16-2008, 01:55 PM
Ariza may play tonight. WOOHOO. Some defense.

Awesome

Fruit Ninja
05-16-2008, 02:08 PM
Awesome

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Remember Grant Hills Xmas Present?

Direckshun
05-16-2008, 02:09 PM
Be honest -- who saw it working out this way?

Demonpenz
05-16-2008, 02:11 PM
poor suns

BIG_DADDY
05-16-2008, 02:20 PM
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Remember Grant Hills Xmas Present?

Kind of reminds me of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWvH2l1-_dQ

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 02:24 PM
Be honest -- who saw it working out this way?

Eh? The favored team has won every series so far...

BIG_DADDY
05-16-2008, 02:44 PM
Eh? The favored team has won every series so far...

Hopefully the Lakers close out tonight. GO LAKERS!!!!!

Have a good weekend guys.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-16-2008, 06:49 PM
I don't know why Mike Brown is still the coach of the Cavs. He's a terrible coach. I also don't know why the Cavs fail, year after year, to get help for LeBron.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 06:57 PM
I don't know why Mike Brown is still the coach of the Cavs. He's a terrible coach. I also don't know why the Cavs fail, year after year, to get help for LeBron.

He is a terrible offensive coach. But look what he has done with their defense though. The Cavs aren't filled with great defenders, but somehow he has them playing great defense. Thats why they went to the finals last year, their defense and rebounding, and of course LeBron.

I'm not the biggest Mike Brown fan, but he has done a lot with what he has. He doesn't exactly have a roster full of scorers.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 06:58 PM
Yeah, Ray Allen is on the decline...I never thought I'd see the day when Ray Allen was blocked by Wally Z.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 07:20 PM
Ridiculous shot, I think this whole road thing has gotten into the Celtics head.

the Talking Can
05-16-2008, 07:27 PM
Wait. So Horry, in the split second before West went backwards, computed in his mind that West's back was bad and that he should try and pinch his nerve or whatever? Yeah, ok..

Horry didn't do anything but set a back screen, it was barely a foul. It wasn't an intentionally harmful play at all. It's not like he stuck out a fore arm or elbow. He leaned slightly forward, to brace for the impact of a big guy coming at him. He's trying to lay a screen for Manu so he can get off a shot or pass the ball. It wouldn't have been anything if West hadn't already been hurt. What, because West's back is sore the Spurs should play him with kid gloves? They shouldn't have thrown any contact his way because of his sore back? Should NBA players change their strategy so it can be "more fair" for the injured player? If your back is so hurt that you can't take that kind of contact, don't step on the floor.

We've gotten to a point in this league where people have a problem with players setting picks! Pussified.

you cry like a woman

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 07:30 PM
you cry like a woman

Well I've been arguing with people about it on other boards. I just get tired of everyone using excuses and complaining about nothing.

Spott
05-16-2008, 07:48 PM
Yeah, Ray Allen is on the decline...I never thought I'd see the day when Ray Allen was blocked by Wally Z.

Jesus Shuttlesworth just ain't what he used to be.

Fruit Ninja
05-16-2008, 08:09 PM
Yeah, Ray Allen is on the decline...I never thought I'd see the day when Ray Allen was blocked by Wally Z.

He's just a 3 point specialist now thats it.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 08:10 PM
I think that:

Big Z
Joe Smith
Varajeo
Ben Wallace

forms the best rebounding frontcourt from top to bottom left in these playoffs. Thats really why the Cavs are winning today.

Fruit Ninja
05-16-2008, 08:40 PM
There was no way that was an offensive foul. James tried to go in on him. Horrible call imo.

Lzen
05-16-2008, 08:41 PM
Horrible call. Refs want this to go to 7 games.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 08:43 PM
That ball hit the backboard first, but man it had absolutely no chance of ever going in.

Home team is getting the calls, what else is new. Its a big reason why no one is winning on the road.

Lzen
05-16-2008, 08:43 PM
Still, Celts players not named Pierce or Garnett have not played well tonight. WTF happened to Rondo tonight? The guy was brilliant in game 5. He looks like poop tonight.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 08:44 PM
Garnett and House are the only Boston players to show up. Boston's offense is horrible, but I guess thats what happens to jump-shooting teams against good defenses.

Spott
05-16-2008, 08:44 PM
Pierce did a nice job of flopping on that charge. Eastern Conference basketball sucks. 20 seconds left and Boston still hasn't got to 70.

Fruit Ninja
05-16-2008, 08:45 PM
Whats happening with the Celtics is they are showing their inexperience outside of the big 3.

Such a dominating team during the regular season and they have looked average at best in the play offs. And in the ****ing east.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 08:46 PM
Whats happening with the Celtics is they are showing their inexperience outside of the big 3.

Not exactly. Pierce has been shut down by LeBron and Allen looks done. Its not just the role-players. Garnett is the only one of the "big 3" to show up.

Fruit Ninja
05-16-2008, 08:48 PM
Not exactly. Pierce has been shut down by LeBron and Allen looks done. Its not just the role-players. Garnett is the only one of the "big 3" to show up.

And if your big 3 arent playing well, the role players have got to step up. Its not happening.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-16-2008, 08:49 PM
Its a big reason why no one is winning on the road.

I disagree. The reason why no one is winning on the road is because all these teams aren't what we thought they were...which is pretty good teams. They are all mediocre teams this year in the playoffs. Good teams are better than the road team and the officials. There aren't any good teams sadly. I love the NBA, but I miss the MJ years. So many great teams, so many great players, with one God-like player and his team keeping rings from their teams and players.

Winning championships makes you a great player. Keeping other great players from winning championships is legendary...and that's what MJ is/was.

Wa-Z
05-16-2008, 08:50 PM
lol what are they chanting?

Fruit Ninja
05-16-2008, 08:51 PM
I disagree. The reason why no one is winning on the road is because all these teams aren't what we thought they were...which is pretty good teams. They are all mediocre teams this year in the playoffs. Good teams are better than the road team and the officials. There aren't any good teams sadly. I love the NBA, but I miss the MJ years. So many great teams, so many great players, with one God-like player and his team keeping rings from their teams and players.

Winning championships makes you a great player. Keeping other great players from winning championships is legendary...and that's what MJ is/was.Bullshit, they are all good teams and they are doing what good teams do. Win at home.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 08:53 PM
I disagree. The reason why no one is winning on the road is because all these teams aren't what we thought they were...which is pretty good teams. They are all mediocre teams this year in the playoffs. Good teams are better than the road team and the officials. There aren't any good teams sadly. I love the NBA, but I miss the MJ years. So many great teams, so many great players, with one God-like player and his team keeping rings from their teams and players.

Winning championships makes you a great player. Keeping other great players from winning championships is legendary...and that's what MJ is/was.

I actually agree with you. There was a lot of parity in the league, particularly the West this year and people assumed it was greatness. But I think the officiating has been a factor too, officials are influenced by the home crowd. I don't think its an excuse or a huge factor, but its one of the factors.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 09:30 PM
Harpring attempting to guard Kobe makes me laugh.

Fruit Ninja
05-16-2008, 09:34 PM
Kobe got up there on that dunk. If his back is hurting, he sure didnt show it there.

Lakers up 50-35.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 09:47 PM
Utah will never be a good defensive team with their frontcout. Boozer is half-retarded when it comes to rotating. Okur just flops around.

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 09:49 PM
Real smart Jazz fans, Go ahead chant "Refs you suck", I'm sure that will help.....

BWillie
05-16-2008, 09:49 PM
How come every game in the Western Conference is like 122-111 and every game in the Eastern Conference is 70-64?

Basileus777
05-16-2008, 09:50 PM
How come every game in the Western Conference is like 122-111 and every game in the Eastern Conference is 70-64?

Well in this case its because the Lakers and Jazz are great offensive teams that don't play good defense. In the East they have good defensive teams that don't play good offense.

Fruit Ninja
05-16-2008, 09:52 PM
Utah just got outplayed in every phase of the game so far.


Lakers up 62-43 at the half.

milkman
05-17-2008, 07:12 AM
I disagree. The reason why no one is winning on the road is because all these teams aren't what we thought they were...which is pretty good teams. They are all mediocre teams this year in the playoffs. Good teams are better than the road team and the officials. There aren't any good teams sadly. I love the NBA, but I miss the MJ years. So many great teams, so many great players, with one God-like player and his team keeping rings from their teams and players.

Winning championships makes you a great player. Keeping other great players from winning championships is legendary...and that's what MJ is/was.

You are ****ing high.

There weren't any great teams.
I have never seen the NBA so devoid of talent overall.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-17-2008, 09:48 AM
You are ****ing high.

There weren't any great teams.
I have never seen the NBA so devoid of talent overall.

The NBA back then was the shit. The NBA now is devoid of TRUE talent. True meaning players aren't smart enough to put it all together.

You're just mad the Bulls beat Magic and the Lakers to start off their domination. :)

Fruit Ninja
05-17-2008, 10:30 AM
You are ****ing high.

There weren't any great teams.
I have never seen the NBA so devoid of talent overall.See'ing his posts in this thread, he is ****ing high. lol

milkman
05-17-2008, 10:49 AM
The NBA back then was the shit. The NBA now is devoid of TRUE talent. True meaning players aren't smart enough to put it all together.

You're just mad the Bulls beat Magic and the Lakers to start off their domination. :)

We've had this debate before, Cody, and as I've said before, I think you're a good guy, but on this subject you are, to be quite frank, an idiot.

Bearcat
05-17-2008, 04:55 PM
Pierce did a nice job of flopping on that charge. Eastern Conference basketball sucks. 20 seconds left and Boston still hasn't got to 70.

I try watching the NBA playoffs every year, but that play did it for me... it's the first time I've ever seen both the offensive and defensive player flop on the same play. :shake:

The difference between the NBA and college is when LeBron James puts up some awkward looking sh*t to draw the foul, he'll make the shot, too. I hope CBB never loses it's integrity, which is why I hate players like Tyler Hansbrough so much.

BWillie
05-17-2008, 06:10 PM
The NBA back then was the shit. The NBA now is devoid of TRUE talent. True meaning players aren't smart enough to put it all together.

You're just mad the Bulls beat Magic and the Lakers to start off their domination. :)

Players aren't smart enough to put it together? That's why the Spurs and the Piston's win every year. No true superstar just great talented players playing together as one cohesive unit.

Actually, I think it's the other way around. The NBA needs to be gravitated towards a personality that can represent one team. Such as Jordan, Magic, Bird etc. Sure they had great sidekicks, but these guys were bigger stars than anybody on the Spurs or Pistons. People like to see one guy just completely dominate and win championships.

I don't think there is anything wrong with NBA basketball right now, just how public opinion downward spiraled into hating the NBA. NBA basketball is a joy to watch right now IMO

Mecca
05-17-2008, 06:14 PM
Here's the NBA's problem, the Spurs are a good team with 0 personality no casual fan is going to care about them and Tim Duncan they are just to boring there's no flash or flare, same thing with Detroit.

The best player in the league in Kobe Bryant is pretty widely hated, they tried to make Wade a star but now his team is awful and he's always injured.

Right now the leagues best hope at attractive the casual fan is Chris Paul and Dwight Howard.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-17-2008, 06:20 PM
They can cross Seattleites off of their list of potential fans.

BIG_DADDY
05-17-2008, 06:39 PM
Here's the NBA's problem, the Spurs are a good team with 0 personality no casual fan is going to care about them and Tim Duncan they are just to boring there's no flash or flare, same thing with Detroit.

The best player in the league in Kobe Bryant is pretty widely hated, they tried to make Wade a star but now his team is awful and he's always injured.

Right now the leagues best hope at attractive the casual fan is Chris Paul and Dwight Howard.
Yea the NBA sucks, it could never compare to wrassin. LMAO

Basileus777
05-17-2008, 07:05 PM
Here's the NBA's problem, the Spurs are a good team with 0 personality no casual fan is going to care about them and Tim Duncan they are just to boring there's no flash or flare, same thing with Detroit.

The best player in the league in Kobe Bryant is pretty widely hated, they tried to make Wade a star but now his team is awful and he's always injured.

Right now the leagues best hope at attractive the casual fan is Chris Paul and Dwight Howard.

Dwight Howard? Not a chance. He has a long way to go to become a dominant player that everyone is going to want to watch. And he also doesn't have the personality. He's a quiet guy. He's not Shaq, not in his playing ability nor in his personality. Big men are very rarely the type of player you are talking about, and Howard isn't any more exciting than Tim Duncan. Casual fans don't care about Dwight Howard.

And I don't know how you forgot about LeBron, the league's biggest superstar.

The NBA is hardly struggling though. Ratings for the regular season were up 20% this year. The playoffs haven't met expectations, but I don't know what the ratings are like.

evolve27
05-18-2008, 11:04 AM
cle vs bos @2:30

BWillie
05-18-2008, 12:30 PM
Dwight Howard? Not a chance. He has a long way to go to become a dominant player that everyone is going to want to watch. And he also doesn't have the personality. He's a quiet guy. He's not Shaq, not in his playing ability nor in his personality. Big men are very rarely the type of player you are talking about, and Howard isn't any more exciting than Tim Duncan. Casual fans don't care about Dwight Howard.

And I don't know how you forgot about LeBron, the league's biggest superstar.

The NBA is hardly struggling though. Ratings for the regular season were up 20% this year. The playoffs haven't met expectations, but I don't know what the ratings are like.

Yeah you are right. Ratings so far are up in the NBA playoffs and in this regular season.

I was looking at the ratings and the regular season NBA and MLB games garner just about identical ratings. The World Series has seen it's ratings fall a ton the last 3 years. Last three years the ratings were between 10-11 on the nielson scale. NBA was between 6.2 and 9 I believe. If you take the Spurs out of the lineup, and see an NBA Final go to game 6 or 7 I really believe you are going to see ratings back up to 10 again.

And then you compare this to the Superbowl which gets like 50.0 nielson rating each year.

Deberg_1990
05-18-2008, 01:25 PM
Good God...

ABC slobbering all over the Celtics knobs...

When did they last win a title again??

Deberg_1990
05-18-2008, 01:29 PM
And I don't know how you forgot about LeBron, the league's biggest superstar.



Yea, im pretty certain the league wants to see LeBron develop into that Jordan/Shaq level of superstardom where he trancends the league.

Spott
05-18-2008, 01:31 PM
Good God...

ABC slobbering all over the Celtics knobs...

When did they last win a title again??


1986.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 01:33 PM
You'd think this is the Celtics station we're watching.

Deberg_1990
05-18-2008, 01:34 PM
You'd think this is the Celtics station we're watching.


Exactly. and i ask once again....

What have they done lately to deserve this??

Spurs and Lakers dont even get this much love.

Spott
05-18-2008, 01:46 PM
You'd think this is the Celtics station we're watching.

I can't believe their hyping up a team that has had to go to a 7th game twice in a row to teams that have a combined record of 82-82 this year. If Cleveland were in the West they would have finished in 10th place and been 5 games behind the #8 seed(Denver).

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 01:52 PM
ABC has the worst camera angles.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 01:57 PM
I can't believe their hyping up a team that has had to go to a 7th game twice in a row to teams that have a combined record of 82-82 this year. If Cleveland were in the West they would have finished in 10th place and been 5 games behind the #8 seed(Denver).

The west isn't as good as it is billed. The playoffs is showing that those records don't really indicate how good a team is. All those 50 win lower seeds in the West were proven to be frauds. The playoffs have been evidence. When a 50-win team in the West looks like absolute garbage against another 50-win team in the West it certainly appears that the records aren't clear indicators of how competitive the teams are.

The Cavs are built for the playoffs unlike many of those western teams who don't play defense or rebound. Do you really think a team like Golden State could have taken Boston to 7 games? Do you really think Denver could have been up 2-1 on the Pistons? Do you really think a team like Atlanta or Philly wouldn't have won at least one game against the Lakers?

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 01:58 PM
I can't believe their hyping up a team that has had to go to a 7th game twice in a row to teams that have a combined record of 82-82 this year. If Cleveland were in the West they would have finished in 10th place and been 5 games behind the #8 seed(Denver).
Whats not to beleive? Seriously, its easy for me to see how they can hype the Celtics on one end, and the Lakers on the other end. If Lakers/Celtics happen, David Stern will rub one out on the spot.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 01:59 PM
Whats not to beleive? Seriously, its easy for me to see how they can hype the Celtics on one end, and the Lakers on the other end. If Lakers/Celtics happen, David Stern will rub one out on the spot.
LMAO

Great defense by Pierce on James so far.

Spott
05-18-2008, 02:03 PM
The west isn't as good as it is billed. The playoffs is showing that those records don't really indicate how good a team is. All those 50 win lower seeds in the West were proven to be frauds. The playoffs have been evidence. When a 50-win team in the West looks like absolute garbage against another 50-win team in the West it certainly appears that the records aren't clear indicators of how competitive the teams are.

The Cavs are built for the playoffs unlike many of those western teams who don't play defense or rebound. Do you really think a team like Golden State could have taken Boston to 7 games? Do you really think Denver could have been up 2-1 on the Pistons? Do you really think a team like Atlanta or Philly wouldn't have won at least one game against the Lakers?

If Atlanta can take Boston to seven, then anyone can take them to seven. Some of those teams in the West aren't as good as their record, but I would take the Lakers, Spurs or Hornets to beat any team in the East.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:06 PM
If Atlanta can take Boston to seven, then anyone can take them to seven. Some of those teams in the West aren't as good as their record, but I would take the Lakers, Spurs or Hornets to beat any team in the East.

Any team? Detroit matches up perfectly with all of them, so does Boston. The Lakers still don't play defense or rebound. The Spurs are old and their offense is as awful as any team left in the playoffs. The Hornets are still inexperienced and don't matchup well with the teams left in the East. And Lets not forget Boston and Detroit would have home court.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:07 PM
If Atlanta can take Boston to seven, then anyone can take them to seven. Some of those teams in the West aren't as good as their record, but I would take the Lakers, Spurs or Hornets to beat any team in the East.
Atlanta was just a horrific matchup for the Celtics. They were undersized, but they were young and incredibly fast and athletic. They were also very streaky, and could hit every shot from anywhere on the floor for a couple of those games.

The Cavs have just played solid defense, but they've dominated the Celtics on the boards. Add into the fact that the Celtics have NO outside threat at all because of Ray Allen struggling, so the Cavs haven't been spread out and they can clog the lane.

The Hawks series went to 7 for good reasons that I, as a Celtics fan, can live with. But this Cavs series should have been over in five games.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:08 PM
Any team? Detroit matches up perfectly with all of them, so does Boston. The Lakers still don't play defense or rebound. The Spurs are old and their offense is as awful as any team left in the playoffs. The Hornets are still inexperienced and don't matchup well with the teams left in the East. And Lets not forget Boston and Detroit would have home court.
The Pistons are more and more of a nightmare matchup for the Celtics. Teyshawn Prince will give Pierce absolutely nowhere to go. Ray Allen will continue to struggle. If Wallace shows up to play strong defense, Garnett will struggle.

At this point I'd say the Pistons are favored. Billups is the only question mark.

the Talking Can
05-18-2008, 02:09 PM
jesus christ I'd like to see James with a team that doesn't suck ass....he is surrounded by absolutely talentless clowns.....

imagine him with West, Stoudamire, Gasol, Odom, Ginobli, and on and on and on...

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:12 PM
I love Pierce's hunger.

You could read his lips just now -- "I'm not ready to come out, Doc."

Love it.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:13 PM
The Pistons are more and more of a nightmare matchup for the Celtics. Teyshawn Prince will give Pierce absolutely nowhere to go. Ray Allen will continue to struggle. If Wallace shows up to play strong defense, Garnett will struggle.

At this point I'd say the Pistons are favored. Billups is the only question mark.

Thats true, but the Pistons biggest advantage is the size of their backcourt. Everyone talks about Sheed, but the Pistons goes where Billups takes them. He struggles against big guards and demolishes smaller ones. That might be Boston's biggest problem in terms of matchup, Rondo is too small to guard Billups. And Allen can't guard Hamilton either.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:14 PM
jesus christ I'd like to see James with a team that doesn't suck ass....he is surrounded by absolutely talentless clowns.....

imagine him with West, Stoudamire, Gasol, Odom, Ginobli, and on and on and on...
I don't know... West and Wally and Gibson are good outside shooters, and he's got perhaps the deepest front court in the NBA.

I think the coaching is the problem.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:15 PM
The Cavs don't have a real point guard or anyone else that can create for themselves. That forces LeBron to handle the ball all the time, making it easier to double him. And Mike Brown doesn't know shit about offense either.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:17 PM
Thats true, but the Pistons biggest advantage is the size of their backcourt. Everyone talks about Sheed, but the Pistons goes where Billups takes them. He struggles against big guards and demolishes smaller ones. That might be Boston's biggest problem in terms of matchup, Rondo is too small to guard Billups. And Allen can't guard Hamilton either.
Billups will be a shell of himself due to the injury.

Wallace shouldn't cause too much trouble that Garnett can't negate with his own production.

The big issue, you just nailed. Allen will have zero offense because he'll be chasing Hamilton through 5,000 screens on the other end of the floor. Pierce won't accomplish much because Prince is a shutdown defender. Can Allen keep up with Hamilton? Can he spread that lethal defense out with outside shooting?

Can Cassell get back on the floor?

Can Perkins stay out of foul trouble?

Can Billups keep up with Rondo?

So many questions for the Celtics right now. If they win this game, they are out of the frying pan, and into the fire.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:19 PM
Billups will be a shell of himself due to the injury.

Thats a pretty big assumption. He's had almost two weeks to recover. They don't play till Wednesday, thats alot of rest for Detroit.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:21 PM
Have you ever had that injury?

Two weeks to recover would be a miracle cure.

the Talking Can
05-18-2008, 02:23 PM
I don't know... West and Wally and Gibson are good outside shooters, and he's got perhaps the deepest front court in the NBA.

I think the coaching is the problem.

those guys are part time role players on any other team....think of the #2's on good teams....Pippen, Drexler, Kobe (with Shaq), Wade (ditto), Stoudamire (with Nash, or vice versa), Parker and Ginobli with Duncan, Gasol et al....James has nobody within 1,000 miles of those players....

Memphis has better talent than the Cavaliers....imagine James with Rudy Gay, Connely, and Mike Miller....that is a much better team than what the Cavs are now...


it's a credit to james, but I'd like to see him play "unchained" with actual talent....

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 02:24 PM
What hustle by House. That was a good play.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:24 PM
What a play.

House is just 110% energy. Love that kid.

I'd like to see Tony Allen break into the rotation some more.

the Talking Can
05-18-2008, 02:25 PM
where is House from?

don't remember him from college....

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:28 PM
lol @ Mike Brown

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 02:28 PM
Love the hustling. This is what game 7's are about.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:29 PM
Doc Rivers showing why he's one of the best coaches in the NBA.

House gets in a tussle with West on the floor, separated by teammates and the refs. Rivers walks right over to House with a smile on his face, pounds him on the chest and gives him encouragement.

That's Doc rewarding heart. Player's coach.

KCCHIEFS27
05-18-2008, 02:31 PM
Eddie House is from Arizona State..all-time leading scorer for the school.

I thought Kobe was the MVP, but after watching the playoffs, I think it is a shame Lebron didn't win the award with the team he has. Lebron is a one man team..hardly any help.

the Talking Can
05-18-2008, 02:35 PM
Eddie House is from Arizona State..all-time leading scorer for the school.

.

thanks....

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:44 PM
The officiating has been fantastic thus far. I really like how they are letting both teams play.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 02:47 PM
Is there a reason they are spacing these games out so much? I figured Hornets/Spurs would be tonight.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:48 PM
Is there a reason they are spacing these games out so much? I figured Hornets/Spurs would be tonight.

It doesn't make any sense to me. Why do the Cavs/Celtics play two games in between the Hornets/Spurs? Maybe they reserved last night for the potential Magic/Pistons game 7, but I don't know why the Spurs series has been delayed for so long.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:50 PM
They gotta start calling some of these fouls flagrants.

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 02:51 PM
Is there a reason they are spacing these games out so much? I figured Hornets/Spurs would be tonight.

They are rewarding teams who close out their series before the 7th game.

Tuesday is the east finals. Wed is the West finals.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 02:51 PM
It doesn't make any sense to me. Why do the Cavs/Celtics play two games in between the Hornets/Spurs? Maybe they reserves last night for the potential Magic/Pistons game 7, but I don't know why the Spurs series has been delayed for so long.

To my dislike all that spacing helps the Spurs since they are the old team.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:51 PM
They gotta start calling some of these fouls flagrants.

That wasn't a flagrant. And it certainly wasn't a flagrant on Wally stopping KG's breakaway. He made a play for the ball and almost got it. That was a good foul IMO.

KCCHIEFS27
05-18-2008, 02:51 PM
I hope you aren't talking about that last foul on Pierce..

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:52 PM
To my dislike all that spacing helps the Spurs since they are the old team.

Well it also helps West get healthy.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 02:55 PM
Celtics in control.

But they gotta keep this lead. They have to keep a double-digit lead, because LeBron has 23 POINTS in the first half. He's shaping up to have a HUGE game, and that means anything can happen.

So you got to keep feeding Pierce, you have to give Garnett a bone every now and then, Perkins and Powe are helping Garnett win the battle of the boards right now... Keep this lead big. Keep it in double figures because if it's closer than that with five minutes left in the game, LeBron CAN take this game over.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 02:58 PM
That WNBA commercial was hilarious cause....it was true...womens basketball is boring.

Ah well all I ask is no Pistons and Spurs in the finals that's all.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 02:59 PM
Lebron James 23 Points
The Rest of Cleveland 17 Points

He really needs some help if they are gonna win this game.

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 02:59 PM
Well, Bynum has 0 chance to play at all now. He's going to surgery on Wed. Glad we got Ariza back though.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:01 PM
That WNBA commercial was hilarious cause....it was true...womens basketball is boring.

So true.

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Direckshun
05-18-2008, 03:07 PM
So true.

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sexism.

http://www.weht.net/pics/mikey.jpg

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:08 PM
It's not really sexist when it's true, womens basketball is extremely boring.

I'd rather watch women play say beach volleyball than men.

KCCHIEFS27
05-18-2008, 03:09 PM
That video is fantastic Basileus..

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 03:10 PM
It's not really sexist when it's true, womens basketball is extremely boring.

I'd rather watch women play say beach volleyball than men.
I'm not going to get into a big thing defending women's basketball with a guy who prefers high-flying scoring over resilient, grinding defense.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:11 PM
It's not really sexist when it's true, womens basketball is extremely boring.

I'd rather watch women play say beach volleyball than men.

Exactly. I have nothing against women's sports. Women's volleyball or tennis might be more entertaining than their male counterparts. But its not the same for basketball. Basketball is just too dependent on athleticism, watching inferior athletes attempt layups simply isn't entertaining.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:12 PM
I'm not going to get into a big thing defending women's basketball with a guy who prefers high-flying scoring over resilient, grinding defense.

You really think it's some coincidence that the NBA was extremely popular in the 80's when every team was scoring 120 points?

People in general would much rather watch that.

Direckshun
05-18-2008, 03:14 PM
You really think it's some coincidence that the NBA was extremely popular in the 80's when every team was scoring 120 points?

People in general would much rather watch that.
Color me completely unamused by how many other people watch what I watch. I watch CSPAN. You honestly would prefer watching Nuggets v. Warriors over Pistons v. Spurs.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:16 PM
Color me completely unamused by how many other people watch what I watch. I watch CSPAN. You honestly would prefer watching Nuggets v. Warriors over Pistons v. Spurs.

If you're asking me if I'd rather watch 2 teams score alot of points and play wide open than 2 grinding teams the answer is yes.

I find the Pistons and Spurs not interesting or entertaining and I likely wouldn't watch those finals.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:20 PM
Brick City in Beantown.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 03:21 PM
He's getting some help now...3 point game

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:21 PM
Oh God....the last thing I want is Cleveland to win since KG is one of my favorite players and I don't want the Pistons in the finals.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:25 PM
Oh God....the last thing I want is Cleveland to win since KG is one of my favorite players and I don't want the Pistons in the finals.

Cleveland has more a record of beating Detroit than Boston. They generally match up better with them.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:26 PM
KG passed up a jumper? I didn't know he was allowed to do that.

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 03:28 PM
As good as Garnett is, sometimes he just isnt agressive and tends to i dont knwo wtf, play soft?

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 03:28 PM
Oh God....the last thing I want is Cleveland to win since KG is one of my favorite players and I don't want the Pistons in the finals.

Yeah I'd rather see the Celtics vs. Pistons.

The Pistons will probably sweep the Cavs because of what the Cavs did to them last year.

The Celtics have a better shot at beating them (home court advantage doesn't hurt either).

KCCHIEFS27
05-18-2008, 03:30 PM
good game..personally, I think that was a dumb timeout by Mike Brown..his TEAM had the advantage and he freaked out because Pierce is hot..but so was Lebron..keep it going idiot

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 03:31 PM
good game..personally, I think that was a dumb timeout by Mike Brown..his TEAM had the advantage and he freaked out because Pierce is hot..but so was Lebron..keep it going idiot

I hate Mike Brown. Terrible head coach.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:33 PM
As good as Garnett is, sometimes he just isnt agressive and tends to i dont knwo wtf, play soft?

He's always been a team guy, even in Minnesota when he was the only player on the team worth a crap and would somehow get them in the playoffs by himself.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:33 PM
WTF is West doing?

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:35 PM
James takes way to many 3's for a guy that doesn't shoot them well.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:35 PM
Awful call. kg has been pushing off all game.

luv
05-18-2008, 03:36 PM
Go Boston!

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:37 PM
Ray Allen sure is on...

KCCHIEFS27
05-18-2008, 03:37 PM
West is retarded sometimes

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:38 PM
Garnett just baited Wallace into a foul.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:38 PM
I don't know what Mike Brown is thinking, why do you take the ball and put it in West's hands?

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:41 PM
Good lord Allen is getting wide open 3's and missing.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:41 PM
Boston is just letting Cleveland hang around. They've had multiple opportunities to blow this game open, but haven't done it. This is shaping up to be a fun 4th quarter.

the Talking Can
05-18-2008, 03:41 PM
Allen turned old when the clock struck "Playoffs"....

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:43 PM
Foul shooting is going to hurt Cleveland if they keep this up.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:45 PM
Here come the phantom whistles...the Cavs are getting too close. You can't have that Stern says!

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 03:45 PM
omg why are they committing these fouls? The Cavs are playing dumb ball.

I hate Mike Brown, did I mention that? lol

I want the Celtics to win because of Pierce (GO KU!!!) but I want to see a good game.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 03:47 PM
Here come the phantom whistles...the Cavs are getting too close. You can't have that Stern says!

LeBron slapping Pierce in the face obviously shouldn't be a foul.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 03:48 PM
Wow Hulk looks pretty good...

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 03:52 PM
Why is Damon Jones still in the league?

BWillie
05-18-2008, 03:54 PM
Wow Hulk looks pretty good...

Too bad there was already a Hulk movie two years ago and nobody will go see this one

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 03:54 PM
Don't piss off the refs Boston fans. Salvatore will get angry.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 03:59 PM
James is good, don't get me wrong, but if he's ever going to be unstoppable like MJ was, he's going to have to work on his jumper more. He's young, so he obviously has time.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 04:01 PM
Too bad there was already a Hulk movie two years ago and nobody will go see this one

True haha...

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:02 PM
Mike Breen only gets excited when Boston scores.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:05 PM
LeBron is pulling a Kobe.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 04:05 PM
LeBron should have just raped Pierce there since it was obvious they weren't calling that.

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 04:06 PM
James is good, don't get me wrong, but if he's ever going to be unstoppable like MJ was, he's going to have to work on his jumper more. He's young, so he obviously has time.

WTF is with you and MJ. You always say MJ this, MJ that. lol

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:06 PM
Bad no calls........Celtics fans are gonna go crazy right now. Imagine the face of Tom Heinsohn.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 04:07 PM
WTF is with you and MJ. You always say MJ this, MJ that. lol

Because, duh, he's the standard.

Unfortunately, no player will ever be better.

It's all good though, because I'm a Bulls fan. :)

Mecca
05-18-2008, 04:10 PM
They actually called a foul on James shocking.

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:11 PM
This game is awesome.

Cleveland should dump that LeBaron kid, though. Total ball hog.

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:18 PM
From the Cleveland Craiglist:

M SEEKING M
Future Hall of Famer looking for loving, NBA-capable partner. Basketball experience preferable, must be 6'6" or taller. Must not already play for my team, because I know every single one of you guys is ****ing worthless. Jesus Christ.

Please, someone. Help.

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:19 PM
Oh baby, oh baaaaaaaaby!

Naturally, he had to do that entirely by himself.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:19 PM
Huge steal by James

1 point game

KCCHIEFS27
05-18-2008, 04:20 PM
I thought Posey was going to clobber him..

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:22 PM
Oh, snap.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 04:23 PM
PJ Brown? Embarrassing Cleveland.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:26 PM
PJ Brown, Ben Wallace, Joe Smith... this series is full of geriatric former chicago frontcourt players.

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:26 PM
Holy shit, Ilgauskas you turd.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:27 PM
Delonte had his hand on the ball.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 04:27 PM
Cleveland doesn't deserve to win this game.

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:28 PM
Cleveland doesn't deserve to win this game.Lebron does, though. It's a conundrum.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-18-2008, 04:29 PM
I hope Boston wins the whole. ****in. thing.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 04:29 PM
Cleveland is kind of stupid...

Mr. Flopnuts
05-18-2008, 04:30 PM
Was that Lebron that threw up that brick? If so, color me shocked.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:30 PM
I hate Boston. I hope Detroit murders those arrogant bastards.

kstater
05-18-2008, 04:30 PM
Lebron HAS to know they aren't going to call anything there. Go a little stronger to the hole, not try and draw contact and throw up a prayer.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 04:31 PM
It's over. Now we won't have to worry about the Pistons going to the Finals.

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:31 PM
Cleveland is so bad.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 04:31 PM
I hate Boston. I hope Detroit murders those arrogant bastards.

You hate all the teams with personality, I've noticed this.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-18-2008, 04:31 PM
I hate Boston. I hope Detroit murders those arrogant bastards.

Yeah, I think they deserve to be arrogant. 3 all star veterans that have never won a title and has it in their site. I can't help but root for 3 stand up professionals that have never been a problem for their respective teams, or league. I know, that makes me a racist.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:32 PM
You hate all the teams with personality, I've noticed this.

I hate two teams you whose bandwagon's you've jumped on, thats what you mean.

But yeah, I don't like arrogant showy players, especially when they are career losers like KG.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 04:33 PM
I hate two teams you whose bandwagon's you've jumped on, thats what you mean.

I watched you going off about how you hate Chris Paul...

I'm sorry that not everyone can be big robot Tim Duncan.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-18-2008, 04:33 PM
Labron missed the free throw in the clutch? :eek:

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:33 PM
Ouch.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 04:33 PM
I guess a LeBron James team isn't desperate.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-18-2008, 04:33 PM
I watched you going off about how you hate Chris Paul...

I'm sorry that not everyone can be big robot Tim Duncan.

I would love nothing more than a Boston vs. New Orleans finals.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 04:33 PM
I hate two teams you whose bandwagon's you've jumped on, thats what you mean.

But yeah, I don't like arrogant showy players, especially when they are career losers like KG.

It was KG's fault his Gm was a moron and left him as a 1 man team for 95% of his career.....KG should have just won NBA titles by himself.

Silock
05-18-2008, 04:36 PM
I'm not a Celtics fan, but I like seeing Pierce do so well. So, go Boston, I guess.

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:37 PM
I watched you going off about how you hate Chris Paul...

I'm sorry that not everyone can be big robot Tim Duncan.

I don't really hate Chris Paul. I just think he whines and complains way too much and has sense of entitlement. And I don't expect everyone to be like Tim Duncan. I don't mind emotion, I just think KG is a poser. There is something fraudulent about a player so intense, emotional, mouthy, and supposedly intent on winning...as long as it doesn't mean venturing within 5 feet of the basket on offense. Not to mention that he runs away whenever someone else gets in his face. He's been punked by Anthony Peeler, Zaza, Mcdyess, etc.

HolmeZz
05-18-2008, 04:38 PM
That was a terrific Game 7.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 04:39 PM
I find it laughable to watch people rip in Garnett, what was he suppose to do win titles by himself? He was league MVP, he's a first ballot HOF'er the difference in how he is thought of how Duncan is thought of is nothing more than his team had an inept front office while the Spurs gave Duncan other players..

Hell I've always liked Garnett a million times more than Duncan.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-18-2008, 04:39 PM
That was a terrific Game 7.

Yeah, I'm glad I watched it.

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 04:39 PM
I watched you going off about how you hate Chris Paul...

I'm sorry that not everyone can be big robot Tim Duncan.

You know thats what most Chiefs fans like. They like robots. You see how anyone comes out and has any kind of personality the fans are ready to pounce on that player. Its always been like that.

Anyways, gratz to Boston. I am hoping for the Boston/L.A finals.

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:40 PM
Okay doodz, put your fake money where your fake mouth is and bet on Celtics-Pistons (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/casino.php?do=sportspool).

I would love nothing more than a Boston vs. New Orleans finals.That would be outstanding.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-18-2008, 04:42 PM
DAMN IT people it's LeBron!!!! Not LaBron, or Lebron, or Lebraun!!!

milkman
05-18-2008, 04:46 PM
DAMN IT people it's LeBron!!!! Not LaBron, or Lebron, or Lebraun!!!

So, then, it's not LiBrawn?

the Talking Can
05-18-2008, 04:46 PM
lebron is counting the days until he can get out of Cleveland....

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:47 PM
lebron is counting the days until he can get out of Cleveland....

Come to Brooklyn LeBron!

I pray that it happens.

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 04:48 PM
Because playing in New York is better? ooook

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:49 PM
Because playing in New York is better? ooook

Because I'm a Nets fan.

And yes, we would put a better supporting cast around him.

milkman
05-18-2008, 04:51 PM
I find it laughable to watch people rip in Garnett, what was he suppose to do win titles by himself? He was league MVP, he's a first ballot HOF'er the difference in how he is thought of how Duncan is thought of is nothing more than his team had an inept front office while the Spurs gave Duncan other players..

Hell I've always liked Garnett a million times more than Duncan.

While I would never have expected Garnett to get his team to the finals in Minnesota, there were a couple of years there where he should have gotten the Wolves deeper than they went.

the Talking Can
05-18-2008, 04:51 PM
Come to Brooklyn LeBron!

I pray that it happens.

i just pray he goes somewhere with some real talent, he has got find his Pippen/Shaq......as f'd up as the Knicks are, I'm not sure that is the place...but they will have the money and the bright lights...



*edit*

you were talking about the Nets

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 04:55 PM
Yeah, there is a lot of speculation about LeBron coming to play for the Nets after they move to Brooklyn. LeBron is close with Jay-Z who owns a small part of the team.

Ultra Peanut
05-18-2008, 04:56 PM
Sheeeeeeeeit. Rudy Gay, Mike Miller, Mike Conley, possibly Rose or Beasley... The choice is clear, LeBron.

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 04:59 PM
Because I'm a Nets fan.

And yes, we would put a better supporting cast around him.I thought you were refering to the Knicks. My bad.

Mecca
05-18-2008, 05:00 PM
While I would never have expected Garnett to get his team to the finals in Minnesota, there were a couple of years there where he should have gotten the Wolves deeper than they went.

The year he had a supporting cast they made it to the Western Conference finals where the Lakers were clearly better than them...

Spott
05-18-2008, 05:00 PM
So will they be called the Brooklyn Nets?

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 05:04 PM
So will they be called the Brooklyn Nets?

I don't believe it has been set in stone, but most likely that it was they will be called.

Hydrae
05-18-2008, 06:12 PM
While I would never have expected Garnett to get his team to the finals in Minnesota, there were a couple of years there where he should have gotten the Wolves deeper than they went.

They would have been a powerhouse if it weren't for the screw up with that contract (was his name Joe Smith? Whatever happened to him?). The penalties for that kept that team from moving forward for a while.

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 07:37 PM
They would have been a powerhouse if it weren't for the screw up with that contract (was his name Joe Smith? Whatever happened to him?). The penalties for that kept that team from moving forward for a while.

He's playing for the Cav's now. lol

BWillie
05-18-2008, 09:22 PM
lebron is counting the days until he can get out of Cleveland....

when is his contract up anyways?

Basileus777
05-18-2008, 09:24 PM
when is his contract up anyways?

He has two more years left on his contract.

BWillie
05-18-2008, 09:31 PM
He has two more years left on his contract.

That poor son of a bitch. I honestly don't know how the Cavs are going to get better. Z is just going to get older and less effective. Wallace gets exponentially worse every year. Only player on their team that can actually get better is probably Daniel Gibson, and he's never going to be a premier basketball player.

Fruit Ninja
05-18-2008, 10:11 PM
That poor son of a bitch. I honestly don't know how the Cavs are going to get better. Z is just going to get older and less effective. Wallace gets exponentially worse every year. Only player on their team that can actually get better is probably Daniel Gibson, and he's never going to be a premier basketball player.

They have to have a GM and a Front Office that is capable of getting good young players. Lakers waited around for some of their young players Walton, Vujacic, Farmar (even though he's sucked lately), Bynum to grow up. It took a few years, but they got there.

BWillie
05-18-2008, 11:46 PM
They have to have a GM and a Front Office that is capable of getting good young players. Lakers waited around for some of their young players Walton, Vujacic, Farmar (even though he's sucked lately), Bynum to grow up. It took a few years, but they got there.

I don't think Anderson Varejiao is going to be anything more than a raw offensive player who defends and the only young guy other than Gibson that they had going for them last year was Pavlovic and he had a horrible year. Shot like 35% this year and just got alot worse. Time to break up that team and start from scratch unless they are counting on Billy Thomas to become Scottie Pippen. Clearly not utlilizing billy thomas in todays game cost them a victory. i mean clearly

Direckshun
05-19-2008, 02:36 AM
What a game seven, though, seriously.

I mean in the history of the NBA, only one player has scored more points than Paul Pierce just did in a Game 7, and that's LeBron James from the exact same game.

You think about the league's talent from the last 60 years and that's astounding.

Fruit Ninja
05-19-2008, 02:58 AM
I don't think Anderson Varejiao is going to be anything more than a raw offensive player who defends and the only young guy other than Gibson that they had going for them last year was Pavlovic and he had a horrible year. Shot like 35% this year and just got alot worse. Time to break up that team and start from scratch unless they are counting on Billy Thomas to become Scottie Pippen. Clearly not utlilizing billy thomas in todays game cost them a victory. i mean clearlyI meant to say, that they can start drafting smart now and in few years they have a chance to dominate the league. James is 23 years old. He has quite a bit of time left. Next 4-5 years is going to be imo the Lakers, Hornets and Jazz in the West. Magic, Boston, Sixers and Hawks in the East. Boston only has a few years left though.

cadmonkey
05-19-2008, 06:42 AM
DAMN IT people it's LeBron!!!! Not LaBron, or Lebron, or Lebraun!!!

Who cares? Its actually spelled CRYBABY

Amnorix
05-19-2008, 06:43 AM
Who cares? Its actually spelled CRYBABY


Yeah, well, he'd still look ok in a C's uniform. :D

cadmonkey
05-19-2008, 06:46 AM
Yeah, well, he'd still look ok in a C's uniform. :D

I have to be honest, as good of a player he is I really don't like him. He feels that things should be handed to him every single play, like fouls. each and every time he he shoots the ball he looks to the ref for a whistle. He's a bitch, and doesn't deserve the praise he gets.

Amnorix
05-19-2008, 06:58 AM
I have to be honest, as good of a player he is I really don't like him. He feels that things should be handed to him every single play, like fouls. each and every time he he shoots the ball he looks to the ref for a whistle. He's a bitch, and doesn't deserve the praise he gets.

You can dislike him personally if you want. I personally don't think he's all that bad -- the entire NBA seems like a bunch of whining bitches when it comes to refs -- but he just single-handedly carried the Cavs to nearly beating the C's in a 7 game series with very little talent around him. He's a beast. I wasn't a big fan of alot of Sixers and Lakers players back in the day, but you still have to acknowledge their talent.

cadmonkey
05-19-2008, 07:38 AM
You can dislike him personally if you want. I personally don't think he's all that bad -- the entire NBA seems like a bunch of whining bitches when it comes to refs -- but he just single-handedly carried the Cavs to nearly beating the C's in a 7 game series with very little talent around him. He's a beast. I wasn't a big fan of alot of Sixers and Lakers players back in the day, but you still have to acknowledge their talent.

Don't get me wrong, I admit that the guy is a beast on the court. I just find it annoying that before he ever touched the court he was crowned the next great thing. I have a problem with people being handed things before doing anything to earn it.

Lzen
05-19-2008, 07:51 AM
I find it laughable to watch people rip in Garnett, what was he suppose to do win titles by himself? He was league MVP, he's a first ballot HOF'er the difference in how he is thought of how Duncan is thought of is nothing more than his team had an inept front office while the Spurs gave Duncan other players..

Hell I've always liked Garnett a million times more than Duncan.

Wow. I can't believe this but for once, I am agreeing with Mecca.

Lzen
05-19-2008, 07:59 AM
I have to be honest, as good of a player he is I really don't like him. He feels that things should be handed to him every single play, like fouls. each and every time he he shoots the ball he looks to the ref for a whistle. He's a bitch, and doesn't deserve the praise he gets.

Sadly, you just described half the players in the NBA. I have always assumed that it's the NBA culture that leads to this.

Direckshun
05-19-2008, 05:27 PM
24,044 votes on Foxsports.com for who will win tonight's Game 7 between the Hornets and the Lakers.

The results so far?

Hornets 50%
Spurs 50%

Get ready for this game, folks...

Direckshun
05-19-2008, 05:29 PM
Sadly, you just described half the players in the NBA. I have always assumed that it's the NBA culture that leads to this.
I assume you never saw NBA action in the 70s.

the Talking Can
05-19-2008, 06:14 PM
What did Barkley do?

He's apologizing live on TV for something he did at a Casino in Vegas. He was sued for $400,000 by a casino.

He's saying that he is giving up gambling.


WTF?

this is wierd......live on TNT

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 06:31 PM
What did Barkley do?

He's apologizing live on TV for something he did at a Casino in Vegas. He was sued for $400,000 by a casino.

He's saying that he is giving up gambling.


WTF?

this is wierd......live on TNT

Basically some casino said they were gonna file felony charges against him for not paying back 400,000 dollars to them. Then people started thinking maybe he doesn't have any money left (thats why in the interview he stressed hes very good financially) and that caused a lot of embarrassment.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j9F6NG7uE1CsqoDCLo6qckOrADtwD90M97100

the Talking Can
05-19-2008, 06:34 PM
Basically some casino said they were gonna file felony charges against him for not paying back 400,000 dollars to them. Then people started thinking maybe he doesn't have any money left (thats why in the interview he stressed hes very good financially) and that caused a lot of embarrassment.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j9F6NG7uE1CsqoDCLo6qckOrADtwD90M97100

huh....that was some awkward TV....he was most unconvincing when he said he was giving up gambling...

Pitt Gorilla
05-19-2008, 06:42 PM
Paul to Chandler = Dunk.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 06:48 PM
New Orleans is trying to outdo Cleveland for the most decrepit stadium award.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 06:57 PM
Game is slowing down, which aids the Spurs as they're all fogies...

Ultra Peanut
05-19-2008, 07:02 PM
Manu gets a reprieve.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 07:05 PM
The last angle clearly shows the light going off before contact is even made. And it was a flop anyway. Manu side-stepped and Paul jumped into him.

Ultra Peanut
05-19-2008, 07:12 PM
WOOOOOOOOOO

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ClevelandBronco
05-19-2008, 07:17 PM
I'm just happy that the Cavs lost the series. Now I can keep my streak alive without being bothered by curiosity. No NBA since 1993. 15 years and running.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 07:22 PM
Huge moment in the game. The spurs in game 1 and 5 had the opportunity to build a solid lead and failed, they must take advantage.

Fruit Ninja
05-19-2008, 07:24 PM
I'm just happy that the Cavs lost the series. Now I can keep my streak alive without being bothered by curiosity. No NBA since 1993. 15 years and running.

Yay for you?

the Talking Can
05-19-2008, 07:26 PM
Boom

Boom

the Talking Can
05-19-2008, 07:27 PM
great play by Paul....

Fruit Ninja
05-19-2008, 07:27 PM
Wow, that was a horrible foul. he intentionally went into the guy lol

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 07:28 PM
They can't possibly give paul that call. he just jumps into defenders....

the Talking Can
05-19-2008, 07:28 PM
aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

the Talking Can
05-19-2008, 07:29 PM
They can't possibly give paul that call. he just jumps into defenders....

as does every great player in the NBA....Ginobli and Parker included.....

Fruit Ninja
05-19-2008, 07:29 PM
as does every great player in the NBA....Ginobli and Parker included.....

Doesnt mean the fouls were called right though. That shit was horrible.

the Talking Can
05-19-2008, 07:30 PM
Doesnt mean the fouls were called right though. That shit was horrible.

they routinely call that for superstars....

Fruit Ninja
05-19-2008, 07:31 PM
they routinely call that for superstars....

Again, its still a bad call. I dont give a shit who wins this game, but i wish the officiating let more shit go.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 07:34 PM
Ok, Bavetta needs to be fired.

Rudy lost the toss
05-19-2008, 07:35 PM
I hate Tony Parker

Fruit Ninja
05-19-2008, 07:36 PM
And there goes that spurt by the Hornets.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 07:37 PM
The Spurs rely too much on their 3 point shooting. Watch them get cold and blow the lead again.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 07:38 PM
How is that not a travel? ROFL

Direckshun
05-19-2008, 08:09 PM
Well, I could have told you the Spurs were going to win this in the first quarter. The Hornets have already lost this game due to their gameplan.

If you double Duncan every ****ing time down low, you're going to die by the three ball. Let Duncan do his damage in the paint, keep the three shooters in check, and watch their offense freeze.

The Spurs have been doing the Duncan-doubled-downlow-so-he-passes-to-an-open-shooter for a goddamn decade. It doesn't work against them.

Spurs win every time their downtown shooters are working. And the Hornets gave them an entire first half to get a rhythm going.

Game's over. Spurs/Lakers Wednesday night.

At least then we'll see two elite coaches who won't sabotage their team's chances of winning.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 08:11 PM
They've stopped doubling Duncan and Chandler has done a decent job. But yeah, their doubles have been awful. Their rotations were so slow...even if they win they're ****ed if they try that against the Lakers.

Direckshun
05-19-2008, 08:13 PM
They've stopped doubling Duncan and Chandler has done a decent job.
IN THE SECOND HALF.

They gave the Spurs an ENTIRE half to get their grooves going.

You lose every time against the Spurs doing that. This game is over.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 08:15 PM
I wouldn't say its over. They have a 10 point lead and Duncan just got sent to the bench with 4 fouls.

But they are definitely playing at the Spurs pace.

Direckshun
05-19-2008, 08:19 PM
I wouldn't say its over. They have a 10 point lead and Duncan just got sent to the bench with 4 fouls.

But they are definitely playing at the Spurs pace.
A pace the Spurs have won four championships playing.

All I'm saying is, if you've got other places to be tonight, get there.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 08:20 PM
A pace the Spurs have won four championships playing.

All I'm saying is, if you've got other places to be tonight, get there.

I'm inclined to agree with you. But the Hornets are capable of making a run, though I wouldn't count on it either.

But its amazing how bad the crowd has been. No reason to be this quiet...

The corporate people probably bought all of the tickets....

Direckshun
05-19-2008, 08:24 PM
Hornets 3/14 in the 3rd quarter. Finley buries a three.

Spurs up by 14, 3rd almost over.

Direckshun
05-19-2008, 08:25 PM
Horry hits a three.

Have I been watching too much NBA when I know the Spurs are going to win after one quarter?

Later guys.

Basileus777
05-19-2008, 08:25 PM
Horry hits a three.

Have I been watching too much NBA when I know the Spurs are going to win after one quarter?

Later guys.

Well you are right, the Spurs are unbeatable when they shoot like this.