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BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 09:39 AM
per the local radio stations in KC 610 and 810.

Both are carrying live.

eazyb81
04-18-2008, 09:40 AM
I'm sure it's something stupid. If the trade was completed then it would be leaked by now.

DaKCMan AP
04-18-2008, 09:40 AM
Please anyone who can keep us out-of-towner's informed.

Mr. Laz
04-18-2008, 09:40 AM
just the annual Draft press conference where Chuck Cook, Herm and Carl sit around and do their best to not say anything at all.

keg in kc
04-18-2008, 09:42 AM
just the annual Draft press conference where Chuck Cook, Herm and Carl sit around and do their best to not say anything at all.Yep. Been scheduled for a while.

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 09:43 AM
Please anyone who can keep us out-of-towner's informed.



http://webclust1.liquidcompass.cc/entercom/audio_player.php?id=KCSP

DaKCMan AP
04-18-2008, 09:44 AM
http://webclust1.liquidcompass.cc/entercom/audio_player.php?id=KCSP

I can't stream audio at work.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 09:44 AM
Someone's gonna get snippy today.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 09:45 AM
Yep. Been scheduled for a while.
Yes, but you know they are going to get hammered with JA questions.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 09:45 AM
Someone's gonna get snippy today.

Before or after the questions?

eazyb81
04-18-2008, 09:46 AM
Someone's gonna get snippy today.

I'm guessing Rhonda Moss says something that embarrasses everyone in the room.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 09:50 AM
Before or after the questions?

During.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 09:51 AM
Someone's gonna get snippy today.
Mr. Arrogance will defintely make an apperance.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 09:54 AM
I can't get on to any of the radio steams.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:03 AM
Tribal's 610 link works for me, and I got right in on 810's link. No problems here. :shrug:

http://www.810whb.com/

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:08 AM
Tribal's 610 link works for me, and I got right in on 810's link. No problems here. :shrug:

http://www.810whb.com/
No issue here either. Bunch of commercials so far

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:12 AM
Just listening to Carl's voice makes me want to buy a used car.

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:12 AM
Carl "Youth Football Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:12 AM
First news................Jared had dinner with the Vikes GM and several viking players last night up in Minny.

eazyb81
04-18-2008, 10:13 AM
Keep the updates coming........ :thumb:

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:14 AM
Carl "Youth Football Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Heh. that is a cool thing they're doing.

Baby Lee
04-18-2008, 10:14 AM
"Before you guys chop my head off for what I'm going to say next, remember how much we love THE KEEEDZZ."

BigRock
04-18-2008, 10:14 AM
Carl "Youth Football Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Straight from Carl: Allen has been traded for 3-4 youth football players.

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:14 AM
Carl's talking about great strides in renovation of Arrowhead, and now draft talk

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:14 AM
"Bill Kuharich and his outstanding player evaluation group..."

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:15 AM
I love that Lynn Stiles is overseeing the renovation of the practice facility instead of drafting players.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:15 AM
"Before you guys chop my head off for what I'm going to say next, remember how much we love THE KEEEDZZ."

Yep. Heh.

DaFace
04-18-2008, 10:15 AM
Oooh! Finally I get to use my "Refresh" button!

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:17 AM
"..luck with the football gods....as to how it's going to fall...."

xbarretx
04-18-2008, 10:18 AM
Carl's talking about great strides in renovation of Arrowhead, and now draft talk

so this is a big pointless conf? :shrug:

Sweet the Pena "we believe"!!

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:18 AM
Kuharich already bemoaning how expensive it is to draft in the top 5, and doesn't see anybody trading up in front of us.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:18 AM
Oooh! Finally I get to use my "Refresh" button!
What "refresh" button?

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:18 AM
Herm " we'll have to sign undrafted FAs"

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:19 AM
What "refresh" button?

The button by the Post Reply button that says Refresh?

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:19 AM
Going to sign at least 20 college players before they head to camp.
Herm.

stevieray
04-18-2008, 10:20 AM
Drafting BPA....

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:20 AM
Herm is big on "best player available".

Baby Lee
04-18-2008, 10:20 AM
"At the end of the day it's real simple. . . "

Huh, learn something new every day.

DaFace
04-18-2008, 10:20 AM
The button by the Post Reply button that says Refresh?

Yep.

It refreshes the thread with any new posts, then jumps to the first one you haven't already read. I really designed it for game threads, but it works great for any of these that involve fast-moving action.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:21 AM
The button by the Post Reply button that says Refresh?
http://bestoftheblogs.com/uploaded_images/dunce-778614.jpg

Chiefs=Good
04-18-2008, 10:22 AM
JA trade may affect who we pick at 5...

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:22 AM
Frank Boal asks first question, can't hear him......Carl says talk about draft, not Jared Allen......if they didn't mind him looking at other teams, they would have made him an "exclusive" franchise player......Carl doesn't want to talk about it........

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:22 AM
Peterson being an ass " Pure specualtion we don't want to talk about Jared Allen we want to talk about the Draft"

the Talking Can
04-18-2008, 10:22 AM
..................

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:23 AM
First question is about JA.

King Carl: when we know something we will let you know. Now how about some draft questions.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:23 AM
All draft bs about how they've prepared, how much time they've spent, how many contingencies they have and all prepared they are.:whackit:

Been tracking players since their Jr. years. Went to 38 schools total.

nychief
04-18-2008, 10:23 AM
Gee Carl...the JA situation does have a little to do with the draft.

That being said, it certainly sounds like JA is a deadman walking...just the tone of Carl's voice.

Pestilence
04-18-2008, 10:23 AM
Awesome job on the refresh button.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:24 AM
King Carl....We have our reasons for letting JA explore FA and joining other teams.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:25 AM
Kuharich is interested in seniors coming out of college.....

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:25 AM
Talking about draftniks " How much tape have these guys watched when developing the boards, probably not much"

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:25 AM
Gee Carl...the JA situation does have a little to do with the draft.

That being said, it certainly sounds like JA is a deadman walking...just the tone of Carl's voice.
No chit. You don't think a JA trade will effect your draft board?

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:26 AM
Not looking for offense or defense per se, just the one guy who can help out immediately....

DaKCMan AP
04-18-2008, 10:26 AM
No chit. You don't think a JA trade will effect your draft board?

It shouldn't. JA being on the roster should have no effect on where players are ranked.

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:27 AM
Kuhnrich " We'll take the best player that fits our team"

Mr. Laz
04-18-2008, 10:27 AM
Awesome job on the refresh button.

except for i keep hitting refresh instead of reply :cuss:

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:27 AM
Carl:

Chiefs don't do a full mock draft of 32 teams because it never comes out that way.

Don't want to reach, that's where you get into trouble.

EyePod
04-18-2008, 10:28 AM
Not looking for offense or defense per se, just the one guy who can help out immediately....

That better not be Matt Ryan. 19 INTERCEPTIONS!!! If they got Brian Brohm in the 2nd I'd be a lot happier. Basically no one has matt Ryan as the better QB, so I don't know what all the hoopla is about.

xbarretx
04-18-2008, 10:28 AM
Carl:

Chiefs don't do a full mock draft of 32 teams because it never comes out that way.

Don't want to reach, that's where you get into trouble.

lets all QUOTE him on that :clap: but i fear is defination of "reach" might differ from ours :doh!:

Mr. Laz
04-18-2008, 10:28 AM
Herm "Half the guys we draft are gonna start"

"i like to get 5 starters"

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:28 AM
Herm: want to get at least 5 starters out of the 10 picks

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:28 AM
It shouldn't. JA being on the roster should have no effect on where players are ranked.
It may not effect rankings but its defintely going to effect who you pick and thats the most important part of the draft. Who you pick.

stevieray
04-18-2008, 10:29 AM
I'm confident that I will never use the the phrase "at the end of the day" ever again...

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:29 AM
Herm wants five starters out of this draft for it to be successful. Jesus.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:30 AM
Herm:

We've had 2 drafts and 1/2 those players are starting so we have the ability to have 5 of them starting.

(Doesn't mention this is over a 2 year period and they all didn't start their 1st years, but many their 2nd (think safeties)).

Mr. Arrowhead
04-18-2008, 10:30 AM
at the end of the day we gotten win football games

BigChiefFan
04-18-2008, 10:30 AM
Way to stand up and tke responsibility for YOUR ****ing players, Carl-he's a royal douche. **** this team-it's all bullshit and lipservice.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 10:30 AM
I'm confident that I will never use the the phrase "at the end of the day" ever again...

I'm confident I will continue to delete it from any number of articles Nick writes.... :D

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:31 AM
Herm agrees to draft BPA, can't always focus on searching for the diamond in the rough. Herm wants Football players he doesn't have to coach for 3 years to teach them how to play (probably because he doesn't know how).

DaKCMan AP
04-18-2008, 10:31 AM
It may not effect rankings but its defintely going to effect who you pick and thats the most important part of the draft. Who you pick.

If you stay true to your board then it wont. The only time it should is when you have two guys equally ranked and you take the one at a position of greater need. Otherwise you go BPA (except in extreme situations - like the Colts/Pats drafting a 1st round QB).

Mr. Laz
04-18-2008, 10:31 AM
ask them why we signed LJ and Tony to long ass contracts last year if we are gutting the whole thing.


shouldn't any gutting start at the top?

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:31 AM
" If we pick a good football player he'll start immediately, and I don't believe that top picks should sit on the bench"

BigChiefFan
04-18-2008, 10:32 AM
Not looking for offense or defense per se, just the one guy who can help out immediately....
Kicker in other words.;)

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:33 AM
Carl dances around Boal's question of drafting best player available and best player available for need....

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:33 AM
Question: What is BPA? Best who can help the Chiefs or the best player at any position, even if it's not of need to the Chiefs?

Carl: You can't leave your draft board ratings. You take BPA (see Larry Johnson), BUT we suck and have so many needs right now that anyone is a player of need for us.

Carl: I'd be happy with 4 starters out of this draft. (lowering the standards already)

Mr. Laz
04-18-2008, 10:34 AM
Carl "always BPA, not need"


translation the chiefs will draft McFadden at 5 :)

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:34 AM
Herm: "good football players are going to find a way to play", SO draft BPA at whatever position.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:34 AM
Carl's voice makes me want to go Gus Frerrotte into a wall, only harder.

the Talking Can
04-18-2008, 10:35 AM
" If we pick a good football player he'll start immediately, and I don't believe that top picks should sit on the bench"

this is the only thing I like about herm....

PHOG
04-18-2008, 10:35 AM
GAWD..Attheendofthedayattheendofthedayattheendofthedayattheendoftheday

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:36 AM
Chiefs admit they think about their later draft picks as well when making their 1st pick.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:36 AM
Somebody needs to ask Kuharich about Ricky Williams. :)

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:36 AM
Carl "always BPA, not need"


translation the chiefs will draft McFadden at 5 :)
No chit. Mcfadden could be there. He will defintely be the BPA if he is. But there is no way we draft him. Probably more disinformation for other teams. Maybe get them to trade up.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:38 AM
810 has cut to commentary. I don't know if 610 has done the same. SO, my updates are over.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:38 AM
The 810 clowns break in right in the middle to add their commentary. WTF?

Baby Lee
04-18-2008, 10:38 AM
Herm: want to get at least 5 starters out of the 10 picks

With our present roster, that's feasible. Doesn't make them good, or starters elsewhere.

xbarretx
04-18-2008, 10:38 AM
Carl "always BPA, not need"


translation the chiefs will draft McFadden at 5 :)

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :doh!: :cuss:

:bang: CeePee

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:38 AM
If you stay true to your board then it wont. The only time it should is when you have two guys equally ranked and you take the one at a position of greater need. Otherwise you go BPA (except in extreme situations - like the Colts/Pats drafting a 1st round QB).
With all due respect......................you are frigging nuts if you think that JA leaving doesn't effect who we draft.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:39 AM
810 is at Worth Harley Davidson North. You can go there for a free test ride. Carl would love to sit behind you.

BigChiefFan
04-18-2008, 10:40 AM
At the end of the day this team is still lost from ownership on down.

Skip Towne
04-18-2008, 10:40 AM
GAWD..Attheendofthedayattheendofthedayattheendofthedayattheendoftheday

Get over it

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:41 AM
810 is at Worth Harley Davidson North. You can go there for a free test ride. Carl would love to sit behind you.

LMAO

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:41 AM
Carl says he'll look into trade down options, if they arise

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:42 AM
810 has cut to commentary. I don't know if 610 has done the same. SO, my updates are over.
610 is still streaming

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:43 AM
Herm " Most people say, we need to draft a QB but it's also the players around him need to be good for a QB to be successful too in this league"

BigChiefFan
04-18-2008, 10:43 AM
With our present roster, that's feasible. Doesn't make them good, or starters elsewhere.

They should be shooting for 10 starters-I know that isn't realistic, but good God, shows some stones and go after the players you covet. Sitting round HOPING certain players will be available is a horsehit plan. We have 10 picks trade up, trade down, trade players, make some damn moves, but don't give me this horseshit of HOPING a player falls to them.

StcChief
04-18-2008, 10:43 AM
Carl says he'll look into trade down options, if they arisewell DUH.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 10:43 AM
No chit. Mcfadden could be there. He will defintely be the BPA if he is. But there is no way we draft him. Probably more disinformation for other teams. Maybe get them to trade up.

If we trade Jared Allen and give McFadden a $50 million contract SOMEONE deserves to be fired.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:44 AM
We have all been scouts. We should know what to do.
Herm

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:44 AM
Listening at 610 now.

Herm: QB is a hard position to evaluate. Draft statistics show this: not all of them turn out. QB is like the head coach, he's the only one whose record is cited.

Question: would you like to bring in a QB?

Herm: we have a lot of them, nothing certain.

Question: in the warroom who makes the final call?

Herm: it never usually comes to that, we usually have 3 guys when our pick comes and we make our decision from there based on who we rated higher.

Carl: in the end that's my decision and has been since Lamar hired me, but we all work together

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:44 AM
Carl says he doesn't want the last say in players, that he wants it to be a "team pick" between him, Herm, Bill, and the scouts.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:45 AM
FYI: 610 is sponsored by Robin Nigro golf academy. (that is not a racial slur).

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:46 AM
Carl admits to having a "few" bad draft picks....

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:46 AM
Carl: have we made some good picks, "you're damn right we have" have we made some bad ones, "yeah we've made a few"

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:46 AM
King Carl....We have had many great picks in the draft and we have had a few not work out.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 10:46 AM
Carl admits to having a "few" bad draft picks....

His ego is unbelievable.

the Talking Can
04-18-2008, 10:48 AM
Carl's drafts suck ass and are the reason we have to rebuild...tell fat ass godzilla to say that...

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:48 AM
Herm---Dwayne Bowe was not our highest rated reciever when we picked him

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:48 AM
Question: Would you drop to your 6,7,8 rated players to get a LT at the #5 spot?

Herm: you may, there's "a little bit of fudge room in there". Some players have intangibles that they bring to the player that don't show on a stopwatch. A top 5 pick is going to come in to start.

Herm: we needed a D Bowe last year, we needed his energy, though other players may have had better numbers.

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 10:48 AM
Herm " We look at little things (the intangibles) to the table instead what we can record on a stopwatch"

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:49 AM
Bill??? said that D Bowe was the highest rated receiver, but not maybe not the best player in the "cluster" of 3 players.

nychief
04-18-2008, 10:49 AM
these guys are ****ing idiots.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:50 AM
Carl: we grabbed McIntosh last year, a former #2 pick, when he's healthy he plays well so we can't say LT is our #1 pick.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:50 AM
Carl saying MacIntosh is good enough at left tackle, but may still take a tackle at the five spot.....

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:50 AM
We may not need a LT because McIntosh did a good job when he wasn't injured for us last year.

King Carl

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:51 AM
these guys are ****ing idiots.

They deal with "clusters" of players.....

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:51 AM
Question: with your rating system how do you define a reach?

Answer: we don't use numbers we use rounds. Ex: 1+, 1-, etc. There aren't many 1+'s there was only 1+ last year. There are more 2+'s than anything. We never have 32 rated round one players.

DaKCMan AP
04-18-2008, 10:52 AM
What do you all expect him to say?

"McIntosh sucks and we definitely have to draft a LT to replace him."

He's not going to give straight-talk about the draft.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:52 AM
Cluster, more like Cluster Fock.

BigChiefFan
04-18-2008, 10:52 AM
I swear alot of the informed fans on this board could do a better job of building a competent team, than these tards.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:52 AM
Herm - height, weight, 40 time "very important....

Pestilence
04-18-2008, 10:52 AM
Holy hell......only a FEW bad drafts?

We're going to draft Clady....I can just see it now.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:52 AM
Herm: bringing in players is much better than the Combine. The conversations with players help them make up their minds.

nychief
04-18-2008, 10:53 AM
Question: with your rating system how do you define a reach?

Answer: we don't use numbers we use rounds. Ex: 1+, 1-, etc. There aren't many 1+'s there was only 1+ last year. There are more 2+'s than anything. We never have 32 rated round one players.

hmmm.. 32... like the number of picks in the 1st rnd...

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:53 AM
Herm - not all first round picks are first round worthy.....

nychief
04-18-2008, 10:54 AM
Trade JA...

draft

CLADY
and like the KU CB in the first...


GUN SHOT SOUND.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:54 AM
Herm: sometimes you can talk to "character issue" players and get the real story. (Translation: it's cool, I'm black, I played in the NFL, I understand these guys, I played in the NFL).

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 10:54 AM
Herm: bringing in players is much better than the Combine. The conversations with players help them make up their minds.

But we didn't feel like talking to Justin Medlock last year...

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:54 AM
Teicher - Have you guys reached for picks the last couple of years?

Kuharich - No. Not while I've been here.

nychief
04-18-2008, 10:54 AM
Herm - not all first round picks are first round worthy.....

nice insight asshole.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:55 AM
Bill: we always stick to our clusters, we are not always right though. Sometimes choose a guy in a cluster hoping that someone else in the cluster will be there the next pick (think tank and turk)

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:55 AM
What the **** with this "cluster rating system"?

Skip Towne
04-18-2008, 10:55 AM
They need to hire Hootie and Mecca

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:55 AM
But we didn't feel like talking to Justin Medlock last year...

He's a kicker, he didn't count.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 10:56 AM
Herm: Sometimes you get "clustrated"

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:56 AM
Bill: we had a non-major college player in here yesterday and in our opinion the major colleges screwed up in not recruiting him.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:56 AM
Herm - height, weight, 40 time "very important....
But then he goes on about intangibles and talking to the player are important.

nychief
04-18-2008, 10:56 AM
You know a "cluster"

as in a "cluster ****"

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 10:57 AM
Bill: we had a non-major college player in here yesterday and in our opinion the major colleges screwed up in not recruiting him.
More King Carl attitude. .....We are smarter than the rest of the NFL.:eek:

Bowser
04-18-2008, 10:57 AM
*the sound of circus clown music*

nychief
04-18-2008, 10:58 AM
More King Carl attitude. .....We are smarter than the rest of the NFL.:eek:

not the NFL... just major conference schools.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:58 AM
Herm: sometimes a major colleges player is as polished as he's going to be and you can find a player who hasn't been coached well and Herm thinks he can coach the kid into a better player.

(though I think he said earlier he doesn't want to have to coach a player for 3 years before he can play).

Deberg_1990
04-18-2008, 10:58 AM
More King Carl attitude. .....We are smarter than the rest of the NFL.:eek:


Well certainly. Since 19 teams have won the Super Bowl other than the Chiefs since hes been here.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 10:59 AM
Bill: Measuring stick for LT: W. Roaf, O. Pace, J. Ogdon, etc. they are 1+ players. Consider how these players were when coming out of college. There are not 1+ tackles every year, some years there are 6.

nychief
04-18-2008, 10:59 AM
balls.

PHOG
04-18-2008, 10:59 AM
*the sound of circus clown music*

I thought that was just my bad connection..

Pestilence
04-18-2008, 11:00 AM
balls.

QFT.

Tribal Warfare
04-18-2008, 11:00 AM
Herm " you can beat up players too much, and realize you only like 5 players "

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 11:01 AM
Question: what kind of grade did Will Shields have?

Carl: questionable pass blocker, great run blocker. You don't know everything, you don't know intangibles of how a player will react to the NFL, but that's what makes it exciting.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 11:01 AM
Carl likes to live dangerously...that's why we drafted Junior Siavii.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 11:02 AM
Carl: we hired Herm because he has a different philosophy than our previous head coaches: he will player younger players. Our current philo. is to build through the draft. We still have players we draft 3-4 years ago (comment: but we are willing to part w/ JA???).

End of presser.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 11:02 AM
Well certainly. Since 19 teams have won the Super Bowl other than the Chiefs since hes been here.
Every team has been to the Super Bowl since the last time we were there except for about 6-8 teams.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 11:02 AM
Carl is talking about rebuilding this team. Rhonda needs to drop a RHONDABOMB and remind him that he's been here 19 years.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 11:03 AM
Well, I'm fired up and thinking Super Bowl!

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 11:03 AM
Well, I'm fired up and thinking Super Bowl!
Print Em!

stevieray
04-18-2008, 11:06 AM
"...we have ten picks, who knows, we may have a couple more.."

...and there it is...if the right offer presents itself, JA is gone...and while I don't want to lose him..his actions are the only reason he doesn't already have the big contract...IMO, the Chiefs feel that he cares more about Jared(money) than he does the team....Herm has said from the beginning that he wants Chiefs. Players that want to be Chiefs. Homegrown Chiefs...and that isn't what JA wants anymore..

I hope they hold out for serious compensation...

Coogs
04-18-2008, 11:07 AM
Carl ended with something like this...

We are excited to have 10 picks in the upcomming draft, and who knows, maybe we will have a couple of more.

nychief
04-18-2008, 11:07 AM
great. 12 picks.

Chiefnj2
04-18-2008, 11:08 AM
Bill: Measuring stick for LT: W. Roaf, O. Pace, J. Ogdon, etc. they are 1+ players. Consider how these players were when coming out of college. There are not 1+ tackles every year, some years there are 6.

Did someone ask him when there was a draft with 6 players ranked in the same category as Roaf/Pace/Ogden??

Bowser
04-18-2008, 11:10 AM
great. 12 picks.

Remember, they need five of those guys to be starters.

Mr. Arrowhead
04-18-2008, 11:10 AM
Some guy is on from Tampa Bay, and he said its been reported that the chiefs want 2 first round picks for Jared Allen

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 11:11 AM
Did someone ask him when there was a draft with 6 players ranked in the same category as Roaf/Pace/Ogden??

No, no one called them on any of their dumb statements or questionable comments. It was weak, everyone bowed to Carl before and after they asked their questions.

Adept Havelock
04-18-2008, 11:13 AM
balls.

Yep.

.

el borracho
04-18-2008, 11:13 AM
Carl: We still have players we draft 3-4 years ago (comment: but we are willing to part w/ JA???).

What is Carl talking about? His success in the draft has been abysmal.

from 3 years ago : D. Johnson, Colquit and Svitek
from 4 years ago : Jared Allen
from 5 years ago : L. Johnson
from 6 years ago :
from 7 years ago :
from 8 years ago : Wesley

In those six years we got one linebacker, one punter, one defensive end, one running back, a backup offensive tackle and a so-so safety. Nice work, Carl, you ****ing dickhead. A good GM can do that in one year.

BigChiefFan
04-18-2008, 11:14 AM
Well, I'm fired up and thinking Super Bowl!

LMAO. That was classic.:D

Deberg_1990
04-18-2008, 11:14 AM
Every team has been to the Super Bowl since the last time we were there except for about 6-8 teams.


Which is why i dont get where the King Carl "Arrogance" comes from??

KCFalcon59
04-18-2008, 11:17 AM
great. 12 picks.

Yeah! Even more busts!!!

BigChiefFan
04-18-2008, 11:20 AM
Which is why i dont get where the King Carl "Arrogance" comes from??
He's just a prick all the way around-it's his nature. He'd be a prick if he was the manager of McDonald's.

Chiefnj2
04-18-2008, 11:22 AM
Why is the KC media so bad? Is it a fear that the King won't allow them to future press gatherings?

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 11:24 AM
Why is the KC media so bad? Is it a fear that the King won't allow them to future press gatherings?

You hit the nail on the head.

chiefqueen
04-18-2008, 11:28 AM
Why is the KC media so bad? Is it a fear that the King won't allow them to future press gatherings?

He's done it before, ask Jack Harry.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 11:29 AM
Why is the KC media so bad? Is it a fear that the King won't allow them to future press gatherings?

Yep, that's why Jack Harry doesn't go to Arrowhead anymore.

I would love to see Carl as GM of the Jets, Giants, or Pats. The media would clown him non-stop.

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 11:31 AM
I would love to see Carl as GM of the Jets, Giants, or Pats. The media would clown him non-stop.

What track suites, flashy jewelry and an oversized ego aren't cool?

BIG_DADDY
04-18-2008, 11:32 AM
Herm: want to get at least 5 starters out of the 10 picks

LMAO Hey Herm, if you keep getting rid of your best players it shouldn't be an issue.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 11:33 AM
What track suites, flashy jewelry and an oversized ego aren't cool?

Carl is the definition of cool. How can a guy with a voice like that not be cool?

Deberg_1990
04-18-2008, 11:35 AM
Carl is the definition of cool. How can a guy with a voice like that not be cool?


His twitchy eye thing has always bugged me.

Smed1065
04-18-2008, 11:36 AM
Bill: we had a non-major college player in here yesterday and in our opinion the major colleges screwed up in not recruiting him.

Now we know who pick 5 is.........


:cuss:

Chiefnj2
04-18-2008, 11:45 AM
1. "I have no comment on Jared Allen at this time. I am here to speak about the draft." - Carl Peterson

translation: The son of a bitch ran to the media when he knew I was standing in front of my full size mirror practicing for this damn draft discussion. I was picking out this nice tie when I hear he is going to Minnesota. God damn alcoholic. I'd like to rip out his liver, but it would lower his value.

2. "We take a best player available approach to the draft." - Herm Edwards.

translation: Bill and Carl have this big dry erase board with lots of names on it. I'm not allowed to touch it. I'm not even allowed to look at it because I move my lips and talk out loud when I read to myself and someone like the janitor may overhear me. I just sit around on draft day and practice using the same phrase over and over again. Today it is "at the end of the day." You can use that one at the beginning or end of any sentence!

3. "We have never reached for a player since I've been here." - Bill Kuharich.

translation. Our draft board has clusters of 30-40 players. As long as we choose someone from within that cluster, it can't be considered a reach.

4. "I've had a few bad picks in the draft." Carl Peterson.

translation. "few bad picks = any year beginning with the numbers "19" or "20""

Coogs
04-18-2008, 11:50 AM
Now we know who pick 5 is.........


Just curious. Who was in yesterday?

oldandslow
04-18-2008, 11:51 AM
1. "I have no comment on Jared Allen at this time. I am here to speak about the draft." - Carl Peterson

translation: The son of a bitch ran to the media when he knew I was standing in front of my full size mirror practicing for this damn draft discussion. I was picking out this nice tie when I hear he is going to Minnesota. God damn alcoholic. I'd like to rip out his liver, but it would lower his value.

2. "We take a best player available approach to the draft." - Herm Edwards.

translation: Bill and Carl have this big dry erase board with lots of names on it. I'm not allowed to touch it. I'm not even allowed to look at it because I move my lips and talk out loud when I read to myself and someone like the janitor may overhear me. I just sit around on draft day and practice using the same phrase over and over again. Today it is "at the end of the day." You can use that one at the beginning or end of any sentence!

3. "We have never reached for a player since I've been here." - Bill Kuharich.

translation. Our draft board has clusters of 30-40 players. As long as we choose someone from within that cluster, it can't be considered a reach.

4. "I've had a few bad picks in the draft." Carl Peterson.

translation. "few bad picks = any year beginning with the numbers "19" or "20""


OUTSTANDING:clap::DROFL

BigChiefFan
04-18-2008, 11:51 AM
Now we know who pick 5 is.........


:cuss:

Heath Benedict is dead-I guess the Chiefs didn't get the memo.

Coogs
04-18-2008, 11:52 AM
1. "I have no comment on Jared Allen at this time. I am here to speak about the draft." - Carl Peterson

translation: The son of a bitch ran to the media when he knew I was standing in front of my full size mirror practicing for this damn draft discussion. I was picking out this nice tie when I hear he is going to Minnesota. God damn alcoholic. I'd like to rip out his liver, but it would lower his value.

2. "We take a best player available approach to the draft." - Herm Edwards.

translation: Bill and Carl have this big dry erase board with lots of names on it. I'm not allowed to touch it. I'm not even allowed to look at it because I move my lips and talk out loud when I read to myself and someone like the janitor may overhear me. I just sit around on draft day and practice using the same phrase over and over again. Today it is "at the end of the day." You can use that one at the beginning or end of any sentence!

3. "We have never reached for a player since I've been here." - Bill Kuharich.

translation. Our draft board has clusters of 30-40 players. As long as we choose someone from within that cluster, it can't be considered a reach.

4. "I've had a few bad picks in the draft." Carl Peterson.

translation. "few bad picks = any year beginning with the numbers "19" or "20""

:thumb: Nice!

PhillyChiefFan
04-18-2008, 11:56 AM
I'm sitting here TRYING to think of a reason they would be intentionally tanking an entire NFL football franchise and alienating fans and team members. We are now going to have to use one of whatever picks we get, to replace Jared Allen, and I for one don't believe he can be replaced easily. So basically we will get a 3rd rounder, because one of the first rounders will be used to pick up a replacement for Allen, of which we are going to have to pay a huge contract to anyways, because he is a first rounder!!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Hoover
04-18-2008, 11:59 AM
Is Carl the one who breaths like Darth Vader?

Anyway, CP owns the media because the media lets him do so. The chiefs are the biggest game in town and both Carl and the media know it. Also I'd be cocky if I were Carl. First its the nature of the job, and secondly he's been in charge of an NFL team forever, longer than many people work at one job.

I actually thought this was interesting. The question that should have been asked is who has the authority to actually make the pick under the following situation.

We are on the clock in the 2nd round, we have three guys in our top cluster sitting there and we were unable to trade down with ano0ther team. Herm wants player A, Carl want player B, and the other guy wants player C.

Who gets their way?

Deberg_1990
04-18-2008, 12:07 PM
I'm sitting here TRYING to think of a reason they would be intentionally tanking an entire NFL football franchise and alienating fans and team members. We are now going to have to use one of whatever picks we get, to replace Jared Allen, and I for one don't believe he can be replaced easily. So basically we will get a 3rd rounder, because one of the first rounders will be used to pick up a replacement for Allen, of which we are going to have to pay a huge contract to anyways, because he is a first rounder!!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

You act like this team won 13 or 14 games last year.

This is a bad team at rock bottom. IM glad they are tearing down whats left and starting over. Frankly, this should have been done years ago instead of Carl trying to maintain mediocrity. They are doing things right for once and the fanbase isnt used to it.


Will we have to suffer through a few bad years? Yes. But if done right, it should really pay off in 3 to 4 years.

Coogs
04-18-2008, 12:21 PM
You act like this team won 13 or 14 games last year.

This is a bad team at rock bottom. IM glad they are tearing down whats left and starting over. Frankly, this should have been done years ago instead of Carl trying to maintain mediocrity. They are doing things right for once and the fanbase isnt used to it.


Will we have to suffer through a few bad years? Yes. But if done right, it should really pay off in 3 to 4 years.


:clap::clap::clap:

Smed1065
04-18-2008, 12:30 PM
Just curious. Who was in yesterday?

I was being a smarta-- but I imagine it was one of these players. I could not confirm the visit though.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=183070

InChiefsHell
04-18-2008, 12:32 PM
You act like this team won 13 or 14 games last year.

This is a bad team at rock bottom. IM glad they are tearing down whats left and starting over. Frankly, this should have been done years ago instead of Carl trying to maintain mediocrity. They are doing things right for once and the fanbase isnt used to it.


Will we have to suffer through a few bad years? Yes. But if done right, it should really pay off in 3 to 4 years.

Agreed, but I don't think you get rid of your best player, who is young and has a ton of upside, for the sake of re-building. You BUILD around guys like JA. You trade guys like Gonzo and LJ for that purpose. Not a fourth year ascending player who just came off a pro bowl season.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 12:39 PM
Agreed, but I don't think you get rid of your best player, who is young and has a ton of upside, for the sake of re-building. You BUILD around guys like JA. You trade guys like Gonzo and LJ for that purpose. Not a fourth year ascending player who just came off a pro bowl season.
Thats why this makes no sense.

PhillyChiefFan
04-18-2008, 12:41 PM
You act like this team won 13 or 14 games last year.

This is a bad team at rock bottom. IM glad they are tearing down whats left and starting over. Frankly, this should have been done years ago instead of Carl trying to maintain mediocrity. They are doing things right for once and the fanbase isnt used to it.


Will we have to suffer through a few bad years? Yes. But if done right, it should really pay off in 3 to 4 years.

you speak the truth. If they had done this years ago, I suppose we wouldn't be in this mess. I am just upset to see the one shining start that we have left on defense vice MAYBE D. Johnson go. I just hope that it IS done right. I really hope this draft goes well. I will be a Chief fan for life, but it is REALLY hard when you are always put down by Eagles fans.

At least JA won't be going to the Eagles, even though they are NFC and would have probably traded Lito Sheppard and a 1st and 3rd for him.

Deberg_1990
04-18-2008, 12:42 PM
Agreed, but I don't think you get rid of your best player, who is young and has a ton of upside, for the sake of re-building. You BUILD around guys like JA. You trade guys like Gonzo and LJ for that purpose. Not a fourth year ascending player who just came off a pro bowl season.

You cant trade Gonzo and LJ for what you can JA. Thats the reality of it.

JA's value will never be higher. Carl is just being smart.

Deberg_1990
04-18-2008, 12:44 PM
you speak the truth. If they had done this years ago, I suppose we wouldn't be in this mess. I am just upset to see the one shining start that we have left on defense vice MAYBE D. Johnson go. I just hope that it IS done right. I really hope this draft goes well. I will be a Chief fan for life, but it is REALLY hard when you are always put down by Eagles fans.

At least JA won't be going to the Eagles.

Look how many times the Eagles have rebuilt since 1989 (Carls first year)

The Chiefs have always "maintained" instead of rebuilt.

Look what drafting a franchise QB (McNabb) did for that Franchise. The Chiefs should be targeting Ryan. The NFL is all about the QB.

eazyb81
04-18-2008, 12:45 PM
You act like this team won 13 or 14 games last year.

This is a bad team at rock bottom. IM glad they are tearing down whats left and starting over. Frankly, this should have been done years ago instead of Carl trying to maintain mediocrity. They are doing things right for once and the fanbase isnt used to it.


Will we have to suffer through a few bad years? Yes. But if done right, it should really pay off in 3 to 4 years.

Yep, it's sad that intelligent people can't understand this us.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 12:47 PM
Look how many times the Eagles have rebuilt since 1989 (Carls first year)

The Chiefs have always "maintained" instead of rebuilt.

Look what drafting a franchise QB (McNabb) did for that Franchise. The Chiefs should be targeting Ryan. The NFL is all about the QB.

How have you already made your mind up about Croyle after 6 games? He had a swiss cheese offensive line to help him, no to mention our fourth string running back at times. Not saying Brodie is McNabb, but there seems to be a ton of Alex Smith syndrome going on - he's the highest rated QB, so we better take him!

KCrockaholic
04-18-2008, 12:48 PM
Some guy is on from Tampa Bay, and he said its been reported that the chiefs want 2 first round picks for Jared Allen

ok well, the Bucs dont have 2 first round picks so how is that gonna work out? The only team that has 2 I believe is Dallas, and they dont want JA.

....well i guess if they mean a 1st this year and a 1st next year, that would be worth it IMO

PhillyChiefFan
04-18-2008, 12:50 PM
If we could protect Ryan, then yes I agree. To the best of my knowledge though he is a pocket passer, and he will be eaten alive by defenses unless we get some bricksh*thouses upfront to man the trenches. I like Ryan a lot, and I do believe he would be a better starter for the Chiefs than Croyle is.

I know what you mean about the Eagles, but trying to tell them that is like talking to a brick wall...apparently the Eagles have won every single Super Bowl. That one in 1970 we thought we won...no no...they won that one too. Thats how they act. Half of them don't even know what they are talking about, and couldn't name 10 players for their team. Rant over. EyePod Help me out :)

stlchiefs
04-18-2008, 01:21 PM
I actually thought this was interesting. The question that should have been asked is who has the authority to actually make the pick under the following situation.

We are on the clock in the 2nd round, we have three guys in our top cluster sitting there and we were unable to trade down with ano0ther team. Herm wants player A, Carl want player B, and the other guy wants player C.

Who gets their way?

Carl. Carl said, in the end it's my decision and that is how it has been since Lamar hired me. He then went on to say they all make the decisions together, cluster the players and come to an agreement anyway. He made no qualms about starting off by saying "in the end it's my decision".

Mr. Arrowhead
04-18-2008, 01:28 PM
ok well, the Bucs dont have 2 first round picks so how is that gonna work out? The only team that has 2 I believe is Dallas, and they dont want JA.

....well i guess if they mean a 1st this year and a 1st next year, that would be worth it IMO
it would be their 1st this year and their 1st next year as well

keg in kc
04-18-2008, 02:18 PM
I'm not sure which was more entertaining, the press conference or the 10 pages of whining about the press conference. ROFL

FYI, Carl met with the press after the draft conference ended and answered questions about Jared Allen. He sounded very...angry to me, for lack of a better word. Rhondzilla after it was over was talking about how she thought there was still a chance he stays with KC and this is just negotiation BS, but I'm not sure I've ever heard Peterson quite as far into his "tough SOB negotiator" persona as he was talking about JA. It sounds like it's only a matter of time before he's gone. If I hear it again I'll give a more detailed synopsis, I was driving home at the time...

Mr. Flopnuts
04-18-2008, 02:20 PM
"..luck with the football gods....as to how it's going to fall...."

No........God no............

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 02:21 PM
Just started the video. Carl looks older and fatter this year?

http://i30.tinypic.com/1zzntqe.jpg

EDIT - Carl is very proud of his youth football field at Arrowhead. Guess that makes up for no playoff wins.

el borracho
04-18-2008, 02:23 PM
You act like this team won 13 or 14 games last year.

This is a bad team at rock bottom. IM glad they are tearing down whats left and starting over. Frankly, this should have been done years ago instead of Carl trying to maintain mediocrity. They are doing things right for once and the fanbase isnt used to it.


Will we have to suffer through a few bad years? Yes. But if done right, it should really pay off in 3 to 4 years.

You know, if it were Bill Parcells or Scott Pioli or Smith doing this, I would have a lot more faith in the outcome. Hell, I would even trust Marty Schottenheimer to orchestrate a successful rebuild but I have no faith in Carl and/ or Herm to get this done right and I really freaking hope that both of them are long gone before 3 or 4 years.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 02:27 PM
You know, if it were Bill Parcells or Scott Pioli or Smith doing this, I would have a lot more faith in the outcome. Hell, I would even trust Marty Schottenheimer to orchestrate a successful rebuild but I have no faith in Carl and/ or Herm to get this done right and I really freaking hope that both of them are long gone before 3 or 4 years.

If they have 12 picks in this draft I'd say that's enough rope to hang themselves with.

KCFalcon59
04-18-2008, 02:28 PM
Mitch Holthus said the other day that the thinking around Arrowhead is that this is the most important draft in 20 years. For the love of God why in the hell would Clark leave it up to Carl and Herm?

Bowser
04-18-2008, 02:29 PM
If they have 12 picks in this draft I'd say that's enough rope to hang themselves with.

Carl is the Teflon GM. Three playoff wins in nineteen years backs that statement up.

keg in kc
04-18-2008, 02:29 PM
EDIT - Carl is very proud of his youth football field at Arrowhead. Guess that makes up for no playoff wins.I thought it was a cheap and pretty pathetic attempt at diversion to start the press conference with that.

Discuss Thrower
04-18-2008, 02:32 PM
Just started the video. Carl looks older and fatter this year?

http://i30.tinypic.com/1zzntqe.jpg

EDIT - Carl is very proud of his youth football field at Arrowhead. Guess that makes up for no playoff wins.

Chairman ****ing Mao.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 02:36 PM
I thought it was a cheap and pretty pathetic attempt at diversion to start the press conference with that.

He knew what was coming, and he's a pussy for doing it. You want to inform the masses about a cool, kick ass idea for the kids? Have a seperate news conference for it. He could even have it where the field is going to be!

Direckshun
04-18-2008, 03:17 PM
If they have 12 picks in this draft I'd say that's enough rope to hang themselves with.
Bingo.

Guru
04-18-2008, 03:18 PM
Oooh! Finally I get to use my "Refresh" button!
Sure wish that button scrolled WITH the page so we didn't have to jump back to the top to use it.

Guru
04-18-2008, 03:19 PM
Outside of DaFaces refresh button, this thread was an entire waste of my time.

bowener
04-18-2008, 03:29 PM
Just started the video. Carl looks older and fatter this year?

http://i30.tinypic.com/1zzntqe.jpg

EDIT - Carl is very proud of his youth football field at Arrowhead. Guess that makes up for no playoff wins.

He looks like a cheesey ****ing used car salesman. Almost, borderline, New Jersey douchebag orange as well....

edit: And what are those ****ing rings from?

Sure-Oz
04-18-2008, 03:30 PM
that's the biggest head ever

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 03:32 PM
edit: And what are those ****ing rings from?

That's Carl's sparkling USFL championship ring.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 03:32 PM
He looks like a cheesey ****ing used car salesman. Almost, borderline, New Jersey douchebag orange as well....

edit: And what are those ****ing rings from?

I think one is from his USFL Championship team with Philly, and the other is probably one he stole from a dead pimp in the street.

aturnis
04-18-2008, 03:32 PM
I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some guys on here to grasp the "cluster" concept. "Here we have 3 guys we wouldn't mind taking with this pick, all are worth it, and they can all help us." "Now...which one can help us the most?"

A lot of guys on this board stick to the talking heads ratings lists. Like Herm said...they often don't know too much more about these guys and their chances of being good players than you and I do. I think Bill is great at what he does, and Herm has also been a benefit these last two years. If they both agree on one of the 3 and Carl disagrees, guess what, we get a pretty good/decent or possibly great pick, not Carl's.

I'm glad they all have a say, and that they use "clusters" of players. I see our #5 being like this.

Matt Ryan
Darren McFadden
Sedrick Ellis

Matt's good, but we don't NEED him and he could never play to his full potential in his first few years behind this line.

Darren is great, but we already have a Darren McFadden like guy(i.e. big, tough, mamajama) might not help until LJ is gone.

Sedrick is really good, and could help out a lot, maybe even so more now that JA is most likely gone. OK, send in the pick.

Hopefully they won't have a tackle in there, I'm not too sure about Clady myself.

aturnis
04-18-2008, 03:34 PM
Sure wish that button scrolled WITH the page so we didn't have to jump back to the top to use it.

There is one at the bottom of the page also...

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 03:34 PM
Outside of DaFaces refresh button, this thread was an entire waste of my time.
I liked the little nugget of info that Bowe was not their highest rated reciever on the board but they took him anyway.

Direckshun
04-18-2008, 03:35 PM
that's the biggest head ever
It almost looks photoshopped. But that's the real ****ing thing. Wow.

Bowser
04-18-2008, 03:36 PM
I guess I don't understand why it is so hard for some guys on here to grasp the "cluster" concept. "Here we have 3 guys we wouldn't mind taking with this pick, all are worth it, and they can all help us." "Now...which one can help us the most?"

A lot of guys on this board stick to the talking heads ratings lists. Like Herm said...they often don't know too much more about these guys and their chances of being good players than you and I do. I think Bill is great at what he does, and Herm has also been a benefit these last two years. If they both agree on one of the 3 and Carl disagrees, guess what, we get a pretty good/decent or possibly great pick, not Carl's.

I'm glad they all have a say, and that they use "clusters" of players. I see our #5 being like this.

Matt Ryan
Darren McFadden
Sedrick Ellis

Matt's good, but we don't NEED him and he could never play to his full potential in his first few years behind this line.

Darren is great, but we already have a Darren McFadden like guy(i.e. big, tough, mamajama) might not help until LJ is gone.

Sedrick is really good, and could help out a lot, maybe even so more now that JA is most likely gone. OK, send in the pick.

Hopefully they won't have a tackle in there, I'm not too sure about Clady myself.

I understand their "logic", but I think they would be better served knowing EXACTLY what they wanted to do with their pick, instead of option 1 ,1a, and 1b.

keg in kc
04-18-2008, 03:44 PM
I understand their "logic", but I think they would be better served knowing EXACTLY what they wanted to do with their pick, instead of option 1 ,1a, and 1b.Because to do that they'd have to know exactly who's going to be available. Fortunately they pick at 5, so they only have to cycle through as many possible 1-4 combinations as there are, but, either way, they have to be ready for every contingency. They can't go into it with the mindset "we're taking player x" and expect everything to fall their way.

Another year, like last year, when they're picking in the teens or twenties, I could see it being a pretty complicated process. As it would be this year if they land Minny's 17.

And it only gets harder the further into the draft they get, which is why (I think) they were talking about how much more prep they did, because (in their opinion) the draft is so deep in the 2-7 rounds.

Douche Baggins
04-18-2008, 03:53 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/k0fw91.gif

Rain Man
04-18-2008, 04:42 PM
That's Carl's sparkling USFL championship ring.

If you've been an NFL GM for 20 freaking years and you're wearing a USFL championship ring, that says it all. I bet Scott Pioli comes up at the meetings and asks to see it, and then when Carl leaves, he and the other GMs all bust out laughing.

That's beyond pathetic.

BigRedChief
04-18-2008, 05:57 PM
If you've been an NFL GM for 20 freaking years and you're wearing a USFL championship ring, that says it all. I bet Scott Pioli comes up at the meetings and asks to see it, and then when Carl leaves, he and the other GMs all bust out laughing.

That's beyond pathetic.
pathetic but ROFL

aturnis
04-18-2008, 07:56 PM
Because to do that they'd have to know exactly who's going to be available. Fortunately they pick at 5, so they only have to cycle through as many possible 1-4 combinations as there are, but, either way, they have to be ready for every contingency. They can't go into it with the mindset "we're taking player x" and expect everything to fall their way.

Another year, like last year, when they're picking in the teens or twenties, I could see it being a pretty complicated process. As it would be this year if they land Minny's 17.

And it only gets harder the further into the draft they get, which is why (I think) they were talking about how much more prep they did, because (in their opinion) the draft is so deep in the 2-7 rounds.


Thank you Kegger...well put.

Sure-Oz
04-18-2008, 08:01 PM
It almost looks photoshopped. But that's the real ****ing thing. Wow.

i bet he is on HGH like bonds

Bowser
04-18-2008, 08:02 PM
i bet he is on HGH like bonds

LMAO