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SBK
04-23-2008, 01:57 PM
So here's my question for the planet:

If we have a monster draft this year, and get the results that the Chiefs have been saying they want, and then in 2 years, maybe 3 we're a young and dominant team---would your opinion that Herm is an idiot change?

If Herm gets younger, better players and wins a bunch of games once the team is rebuilt, would people no longer think of him as an idiot?

OnTheWarpath58
04-23-2008, 01:58 PM
This team could end up in the AFC Championship game THIS YEAR and people would be looking to draw and quarter him.

StcChief
04-23-2008, 01:59 PM
nope. Jury is still out considering our decline OL., LJ out and KingCarl override on starting Brodie. Drafts will tell and that is 2-3 years out.

Brock
04-23-2008, 01:59 PM
He's not a great gameday coach by any measure. Probably not even a good one.

KCChiefsMan
04-23-2008, 02:00 PM
if we draft 5 rookie of the year canidates, we could be printing playoff tickets by week 11!!!!!

Frankie
04-23-2008, 02:13 PM
So here's my question for the planet:

If we have a monster draft this year, and get the results that the Chiefs have been saying they want, and then in 2 years, maybe 3 we're a young and dominant team---would your opinion that Herm is an idiot change?

Under that scenario I would promote Herm to GM and hire a new coach. Herm's game day sideline coaching is not the best, no matter how much talent he brings in.

milkman
04-23-2008, 02:16 PM
My opinion of Herman ****ing Edwards is based on the stupid shit he says, and the stupid things he does in game situations, so no, my opinion of him wouldn't change.

alanm
04-23-2008, 02:25 PM
You know what I would of been happy with. Mind you I really have no problem with Herm and what he's trying to do. Where I have a problem is when he steps in and overrules what the offense is trying to do. Had it been me I would have found some way to keep Saunders running the offense with a nice raise. Got him the players he needs on the oline and WR. And given him the QB he needs to run his offense. And told Herm to concentrate on fixing the defense with Gunther. And demanded that Carl keep his ass in the office doing the paperwork.

mlyonsd
04-23-2008, 02:36 PM
The only way I can forgive the "offense scores too fast" statement is by backing it up by winnning a SB. Anything less and he just looks like a DA, IMO.

Douche Baggins
04-23-2008, 02:37 PM
People will hate Herm until he wins the Super Bowl. That's the ONLY thing that will change the majority opinion.

We could lose by one point in the AFC Championship game and there would still be people ready to drive him out of town. They'd be saying "HERM IS HOLDING US BACK" etc etc etc.

Brock
04-23-2008, 02:44 PM
People will hate Herm until he wins the Super Bowl. That's the ONLY thing that will change the majority opinion.

We could lose by one point in the AFC Championship game and there would still be people ready to drive him out of town. They'd be saying "HERM IS HOLDING US BACK" etc etc etc.

Yeah, it's not like he's made a bunch of stupid coaching decisions in the past several years or anything. :rolleyes:

milkman
04-23-2008, 02:45 PM
You know what I would of been happy with. Mind you I really have no problem with Herm and what he's trying to do. Where I have a problem is when he steps in and overrules what the offense is trying to do. Had it been me I would have found some way to keep Saunders running the offense with a nice raise. Got him the players he needs on the oline and WR. And given him the QB he needs to run his offense. And told Herm to concentrate on fixing the defense with Gunther. And demanded that Carl keep his ass in the office doing the paperwork.

You acn bitch and moan about Al Saunders all you want, but the only way he was going to remain in KC was with a promotion to HC.

He was gone as soon as Herman ****ing edwards was hired.

Get over it.

SBK
04-23-2008, 02:52 PM
There isn't a coach in the NFL that could have coached us into the playoffs last year.

Herm hatred is hilarious.

el borracho
04-23-2008, 02:53 PM
Well, the world will never know, will it? When has either Carl or Herm ever had a great draft? There are like 3 players on the Chiefs that were drafted between 2000 and 2005. Seriously, someone please post Carl and/ or Herm's most successful drafts.

beach tribe
04-23-2008, 03:17 PM
Everyone knows that Winning......cures everything.

If we don't get some badasses with the picks for Jared, more solid players in this draft, we will be ****ed for half a decade, and will put hermy at Lin Elliot status.

beach tribe
04-23-2008, 03:20 PM
Well, the world will never know, will it? When has either Carl or Herm ever had a great draft? There are like 3 players on the Chiefs that were drafted between 2000 and 2005. Seriously, someone please post Carl and/ or Herm's most successful drafts.

Hermy's drafting skills are a myth, but he has a chance to fix that.

jettio
04-23-2008, 04:25 PM
You know what I would of been happy with. Mind you I really have no problem with Herm and what he's trying to do. Where I have a problem is when he steps in and overrules what the offense is trying to do. Had it been me I would have found some way to keep Saunders running the offense with a nice raise. Got him the players he needs on the oline and WR. And given him the QB he needs to run his offense. And told Herm to concentrate on fixing the defense with Gunther. And demanded that Carl keep his ass in the office doing the paperwork.


I don't think Solari is ever going to be a good play-caller offensive coordinator.

Solari's promotion was somewhat a company move and not a Herm move.

If Gailey produces an offense that moves the ball and scores some points. You might have to conclude that Trent Green getting his bell rung in game 1 of the Herm era, Roaf retiring and an overall lack of talent, was not going to give Solari much of a chance to succeed. Especially since Solari may just not have the makeup for a good OC anyway.

Micjones
04-23-2008, 04:27 PM
He's not a great gameday coach by any measure. Probably not even a good one.

Exactly... Why are people pretending that the vitriol people have for him isn't warranted?

KC Tattoo
04-23-2008, 04:31 PM
So here's my question for the planet:

If we have a monster draft this year, and get the results that the Chiefs have been saying they want, and then in 2 years, maybe 3 we're a young and dominant team---would your opinion that Herm is an idiot change?

If Herm gets younger, better players and wins a bunch of games once the team is rebuilt, would people no longer think of him as an idiot?


I'm kind of looking at it like the Bucks did with Tony Dungy, let him build the team, then can him for a coach like Jon Gruden who can get us to the big dance. Just a thought of hope.

Fish
04-23-2008, 05:05 PM
I've never understood the level of animosity some fans have toward Herm. Is he a HOF coach? Pfff... no. Is he leading this team in the right direction? Yeah. Is he making decisions that needed to be made in the commitment to rebuilding? Yeah.

We've been doing the same pointless shit in this franchise for over a decade and it hasn't worked. Herm has brought a different method to building a football team, and I like it.

He's a bozo. But he's giving us a shot at a very young that could be consistently competitive instead of the roller coaster mediocre crap we've seen for too long now. And he may get better. It happened to his brother Tony in Indy.

Even if he fails at it... the method in place for developing the team through the draft will live on well past Herm, and keep the team younger.