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tomahawk kid
04-23-2008, 04:27 PM
He was one 810 after the Carl / Herm presser.

He mentioned that the Chiefs are looking to move at least one other veteran who is unhappy and that it WASN'T Tony G.

Not sure if he's getting this from Athan or what, but I thought it was at least worth posting.

Delano
04-23-2008, 04:27 PM
Wesley?

Micjones
04-23-2008, 04:28 PM
Greg Wesley?

kstater
04-23-2008, 04:29 PM
Wesley?

So we'll pick up an extra 5th or 6th?

eazyb81
04-23-2008, 04:30 PM
So we'll pick up an extra 5th or 6th?

No, we'll actually give up a 5th or 6th to entice someone to take him.

Micjones
04-23-2008, 04:30 PM
Who might be in the market for Wesley?

C-Mac
04-23-2008, 04:31 PM
Sledgehammer?

Count Zarth
04-23-2008, 04:33 PM
Yeah, Nick has been talking about this recently. Likely Wesley.

Delano
04-23-2008, 04:34 PM
Yeah, Nick has been talking about this recently. Likely Wesley.

I hesitate to ask, but which teams are interested?

MTG#10
04-23-2008, 04:34 PM
Wesley should be worth at least a 5th, maybe even a low 4th.

CupidStunt
04-23-2008, 04:35 PM
Good. Chiefs have no need for a "solid" backup safety (whether or not your bias allows you to see that or not, he's at least a solid backup when you take a look around the league). I'd rather have a sixth-rounder and draft a player by throwing a dart at 30 available player's names.

noa
04-23-2008, 04:36 PM
Sounds good to me.

Count Zarth
04-23-2008, 04:36 PM
I hesitate to ask, but which teams are interested?

Nothing on that front yet.

Micjones
04-23-2008, 04:40 PM
Could it be someone else?
Waters? Surtain?

C-Mac
04-23-2008, 04:40 PM
Good. Chiefs have no need for a "solid" backup safety (whether or not your bias allows you to see that or not, he's at least a solid backup when you take a look around the league). I'd rather have a sixth-rounder and draft a player by throwing a dart at 30 available player's names.

Bingo!
He must be de cancerous.

C-Mac
04-23-2008, 04:42 PM
Could it be someone else?
Waters? Surtain?
Doubt it...Westley has let it be known since last year.

Micjones
04-23-2008, 04:45 PM
Doubt it...Westley has let it be known since last year.

That's old news though.
That was reported as recently as March of this year.

Tribal Warfare
04-23-2008, 04:47 PM
Okay I'll just put it out their McIntosh could be a darkhorse possibility

Micjones
04-23-2008, 04:48 PM
Okay I'll just put it out their McIntosh could be a darkhorse possibility

Can't see that one.

Tribal Warfare
04-23-2008, 04:50 PM
Can't see that one.


their are very few if any players on KCs roster that have trade value so it's either him or Wesley

DaneMcCloud
04-23-2008, 04:50 PM
It's got to be Wesley.

He was upset that after he signed for starter's money, the Chiefs drafted Pollard & Page, then put him on the bench.

Quite frankly, the way the guy whiffs on tackles and gets burned deep (not to mention his bad attitude) if it's NOT him Harry is talking about, I'd be surprised.

Wesley needs to go.

ANYONE with a bad attitude needs to go, especially with at least 13 new draft picks coming (and probably just as many street free-agents).

It's time to change the culture around Arrowhead.

the Talking Can
04-23-2008, 04:53 PM
we could have had a 4th for him already....we'll probably get a 5th

Hoover
04-23-2008, 04:54 PM
My sources tell me it is Jean Philippe Darche. Its been reported that Miami is offering the first pick of the non-drafted free agents.

QuikSsurfer
04-23-2008, 04:55 PM
It's got to be Wesley.

He was upset that after he signed for starter's money, the Chiefs drafted Pollard & Page, then put him on the bench.

Quite frankly, the way the guy whiffs on tackles and gets burned deep (not to mention his bad attitude) if it's NOT him Harry is talking about, I'd be surprised.

Wesley needs to go.

ANYONE with a bad attitude needs to go, especially with at least 13 new draft picks coming (and probably just as many street free-agents).

It's time to change the culture around Arrowhead.

It probably is Wesley. We've been through this a number of times...
His bad attitude is because of how the Chiefs have kept him around to sit on the bench, while other teams have shown interest in giving him the opportunity to play. It's bullshit.
Name one other Chiefs player that has had more TD-saving-tackles (during Wesley's tenure) or that hits harder than Wesley.

With all that said, I'm still bitter about the Denver deal.

BigRedChief
04-23-2008, 04:56 PM
their are very few if any players on KCs roster that have trade value so it's either him or Wesley
I heard that Waters is unhappy with the direction of the team and wants out. Just a rumor so don't apply this to me as fact. Just passing it along.

Tribal Warfare
04-23-2008, 04:57 PM
I heard that Waters is unhappy with the direction of the team and wants out. Just a rumor so don't apply this to me as fact. Just passing it along.


Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed

Count Zarth
04-23-2008, 04:58 PM
Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed

Why? He's 31, 32 as well. Might as well replace him sooner than later.

Anyong Bluth
04-23-2008, 05:04 PM
I heard that Waters is unhappy with the direction of the team and wants out. Just a rumor so don't apply this to me as fact. Just passing it along.

Depending on what the compensation is...

Doubt I'd do it for anything less than a high 3rd round pick.

It's pretty clear we're not doing anything for a few years, and if you're gonna firesale it, he'd be more value to us picking up young guys than 3 years down the road when he's past his prime after sticking around to help us reach 4-12

DaneMcCloud
04-23-2008, 05:07 PM
Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed

Waters' play dropped off considerably this year without Will Shields or Weigman playing at a high level next to him. Due to his age and the enormous amount of depth of offensive lineman the 2008 draft has to offer, ship him out for a 3rd round pick and replace him.

It's going to happen soon, whether he likes it or not anyway, so if the Chiefs have the opportunity now, take it.

BigRedChief
04-23-2008, 05:08 PM
Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed
This was not from my source that has always been right so I didn't post anything. But supposely he called King Carl and asked to be quietly shopped around because he didn't want to wait 2-3 years to be good again. The Chiefs said they would make inquiries but no promises. Again this person has never told me anything private but I've known him for 6 years. Maybe just a BS rumor he heard? Who knows?

Deberg_1990
04-23-2008, 05:12 PM
My gut feeling tells me its Bobby Sippio.

MTG#10
04-23-2008, 05:17 PM
Why? He's 31, 32 as well. Might as well replace him sooner than later.
Exactly. Like it or not, we are not going to be contenders anytime soon so we might as well get something out of him while we can. I wouldn't take anything less than a 3rd rounder for him though. Hell, at this point I would give up Gonzo for a high 2nd rounder.

Tribal Warfare
04-23-2008, 05:22 PM
Why? He's 31, 32 as well. Might as well replace him sooner than later.

Only stalwart on the line, since KC KC can't replace the whole O-line through this draft also it would be F*CKED.

Pestilence
04-23-2008, 05:25 PM
My gut feeling tells me its Bobby Sippio.

WE'RE DOOMED!!!!1!111!11!1

milkman
04-23-2008, 05:30 PM
Exactly. Like it or not, we are not going to be contenders anytime soon so we might as well get something out of him while we can. I wouldn't take anything less than a 3rd rounder for him though. Hell, at this point I would give up Gonzo for a high 2nd rounder.

You wouldn't find anyone who'd give you a high 2nd rounder.

You''d be lucky to find someone who'd give you a high 4th rounder.

Vegas_Dave
04-23-2008, 05:32 PM
First name that came to mind to me was Waters. We all heard about the OL not wanting to block for LJ last year.

Since the franchise isnt getting rid of LJ, this seems to make sense.

C-Mac
04-23-2008, 05:38 PM
Chiefs | Gonzalez on future with team
Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:01:16 -0700

In an interview on SIRIUS NFL Radio The SIRIUS Blitz, Kansas City Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez said he does not want to be traded. Gonzalez also said he feels he can still contribute and thinks he has another three or four years left in him.

Silock
04-23-2008, 05:53 PM
Well, whatever it is will have to happen very quickly.

Anyong Bluth
04-23-2008, 05:58 PM
Chiefs | Gonzalez on future with team
Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:01:16 -0700

In an interview on SIRIUS NFL Radio The SIRIUS Blitz, Kansas City Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez said he does not want to be traded. Gonzalez also said he feels he can still contribute and thinks he has another three or four years left in him.


Like Shannon Sharpe, Gonzo looks to be one of those guys that doesn't suffer from a lot of dropoff as he gets older. How is the guy, b/c he could probably play another 8 years..

I feel bad the guy has had no luck in terms of playoff wins or a ring, but I kinda like the fact that he wants to stay for now, and think it'd be kinda cool if he played his entire career with KC.

If he has an option to pick up with a contender and we can move him, I'd even take a bit less value for the guy just as a show of appreciation to him if thats the only way he could get some hardware for his finger.

Rain Man
04-23-2008, 06:01 PM
I would suspect that Carl is trading away draft picks for future draft picks, because whoever they get with their current draft picks will be too old by the time they're competitive, and because they won't want to play for Carl anyway.

eazyb81
04-23-2008, 06:13 PM
I would suspect that Carl is trading away draft picks for future draft picks, because whoever they get with their current draft picks will be too old by the time they're competitive, and because they won't want to play for Carl anyway.

Are you trying to set a record for the most snarky comments in one day?

Phobia
04-23-2008, 06:20 PM
You wouldn't find anyone who'd give you a high 2nd rounder.

You''d be lucky to find someone who'd give you a high 4th rounder.

Man - I gotta disagree with that. If the market for Pat Surtain was a 2nd round pick, the market for Gonzo has to at least start there - maybe even a low 1st rounder. He's nowhere near the end.

milkman
04-23-2008, 06:25 PM
Man - I gotta disagree with that. If the market for Pat Surtain was a 2nd round pick, the market for Gonzo has to at least start there - maybe even a low 1st rounder. He's nowhere near the end.

He's a TE.

The position is pretty low in terms of value to a team.

markk
04-23-2008, 06:28 PM
i think you would get like a third for him

Reerun_KC
04-23-2008, 06:30 PM
Is it that Carl is going to trade himself for the GM of the Pats?

And we will throw in one of our 4ths to sweeten the deal?

Phobia
04-23-2008, 06:31 PM
He's a TE.

The position is pretty low in terms of value to a team.

I would argue that the TE position is on the rise while the FB position has been on the decline. Look how many TE studs teams have been drafting in the first round the past 7-8 years. If the position was as low as you claim, Dallas Clark would have never vaulted from a 4th round project to a first round pick for the Colts. I'm guessing there's a lot of teams who would come up to bat with a 2nd rounder in hand if Gonzo came on the market.

milkman
04-23-2008, 06:36 PM
I would argue that the TE position is on the rise while the FB position has been on the decline. Look how many TE studs teams have been drafting in the first round the past 7-8 years. If the position was as low as you claim, Dallas Clark would have never vaulted from a 4th round project to a first round pick for the Colts. I'm guessing there's a lot of teams who would come up to bat with a 2nd rounder in hand if Gonzo came on the market.

I would argue that when there is discussion about teams that might be one player away from being a contender, neither TE or FB are at the top of the list as the one player.

Raiderh8ter77
04-23-2008, 06:37 PM
brian waters

Brock
04-23-2008, 06:44 PM
Chiefs | Gonzalez on future with team
Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:01:16 -0700

In an interview on SIRIUS NFL Radio The SIRIUS Blitz, Kansas City Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez said he does not want to be traded. Gonzalez also said he feels he can still contribute and thinks he has another three or four years left in him.

Damn. What a class guy.

bowener
04-23-2008, 06:49 PM
Damn. What a class guy.

Yeah, but isnt that what Jared Allen basically said about KC too?

KcMizzou
04-23-2008, 06:52 PM
Yeah, but isnt that what Jared Allen basically said about KC too?Uh... I don't think so.

keg in kc
04-23-2008, 06:53 PM
We all know how "inside" Jack is with everybody at Arrowhead. Why, he's like a bosom buddy.

DaneMcCloud
04-23-2008, 07:01 PM
We all know how "inside" Jack is with everybody at Arrowhead. Why, he's like a bosom buddy.

He's a cross-dresser as well?

keg in kc
04-23-2008, 07:02 PM
He's a cross-dresser as well?Nothing would shock me with those "tv types".

Direckshun
04-23-2008, 07:04 PM
I'd love to get another late rounder for Wes.

I don't care where it is. I doubt we get a 5th -- the Broncos would have been overpaying if they had offered a 5th. I absolutely cannot believe they offered a 4th and we turned them down.

Tribal Warfare
04-23-2008, 07:05 PM
I'd love to get another late rounder for Wes.

I don't care where it is. I doubt we get a 5th -- the Broncos would have been overpaying if they had offered a 5th. I absolutely cannot believe they offered a 4th and we turned them down.




Really if we can get any thing for Wesley it would be gravy.

Direckshun
04-23-2008, 07:29 PM
Really if we can get any thing for Wesley it would be gravy.
Absolutely. I just don't think he's worth acquiring. Wes is 29 years old. He's a documented bad-attitude guy. He's inconsistent and gives up big plays.

Nope, we're going to have a really hard time finding any value for him.

We couldn't find value last year for Sammy Knight, who at least has a Pro Bowl to his name. We screwed ourselves out of a 4th last year.

The big thing in Wesley's favor, though, is that this is a very weak safety class in this upcoming Draft, and Wes would yield better returns than any 5th to 7th would give you. Wes can also play FS and SS, both fairly adequately.

KCwolf
04-23-2008, 07:32 PM
Yeah, but isnt that what Jared Allen basically said about KC too?


Those words NEVER came out of JA's mouth.....

Ultra Peanut
04-23-2008, 07:35 PM
No, we'll actually give up a 5th or 6th to entice someone to take him.Still totally worth it!

Boon
04-23-2008, 07:57 PM
Carl is King!
In Carl we trust.

DTLB58
04-23-2008, 08:09 PM
He was one 810 after the Carl / Herm presser.

He mentioned that the Chiefs are looking to move at least one other veteran who is unhappy and that it WASN'T Tony G.

Not sure if he's getting this from Athan or what, but I thought it was at least worth posting.

My money is on Wesley there.

Tribal Warfare
04-23-2008, 08:13 PM
Carl is King!
In Carl we trust.



:# :cuss:

beach tribe
04-23-2008, 08:19 PM
It would be a good idea to just get would we could for waters because he won't help much with our future success, except for the fact that......Someone must PROTECT THE QUARTERBACK if we ever plan to develop one. Whether it be Croyle, or Ryan or who the **** ever. A QB will never mature on his back.

dtebbe
04-23-2008, 08:45 PM
If Greg Wesley is still on the roster when the regular season starts.... :cuss:

DT

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-23-2008, 09:18 PM
Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed

Why? The guy looked like mule shit without Willie Roaf carrying his ass the last two years.

Tits McGee
04-23-2008, 09:21 PM
Would Colquitt be considered a veteran?

Tribal Warfare
04-23-2008, 09:22 PM
Why? The guy looked like mule shit without Willie Roaf carrying his ass the last two years.


He isn't a HOFer, but he's probowl caliber player who has no help around him. since eveyone is F*CKING up around him he's trying pick up slack on the left and right

xbarretx
04-23-2008, 09:22 PM
Nothing on that front yet.

so you know who the vet is?

Count Zarth
04-23-2008, 09:24 PM
so you know who the vet is?

Sure don't. Probably Wes though.

BIG K
04-23-2008, 09:30 PM
Why? The guy looked like mule shit without Willie Roaf carrying his ass the last two years.

Can't say I have given up hope on him with his weak supporting cast. One or two improvements on the line, and he may regain his old form..

xbarretx
04-23-2008, 09:54 PM
Sure don't. Probably Wes though.

:hmmm: which beggs the question... who would be interested. i guess if people wanted Simms.....then anythings possible

banyon
04-23-2008, 10:21 PM
:hmmm: which beggs the question... who would be interested. i guess if people wanted Simms.....then anythings possible

LOL. Us getting a 4th for Sims was like Jon Gruden walking up to the front door of 1 Arrowhead and saying "KICK ME IN the JIMMY" and giving us a draft pick.

Discuss Thrower
04-24-2008, 02:20 AM
My first thought is Waters...

PhillyChiefFan
04-24-2008, 04:58 AM
Would Colquitt be considered a veteran?

We would be SO very screwed.

PhillyChiefFan
04-24-2008, 05:01 AM
When I first read this thread, I went through and tried to find out who the asshole would be that says:
" I'll bet it's Larry Johnson"

and just watch the mayheim unfold. I almost did it for sh*ts and grins.