Rev. Wright, the gift that keeps on giving...

[memyselfI]

He'll be intereviewed by Bill Moyers tomorrow night. No wonder Baaarack had to go to Chicago today for a day of rest. It sounds like he might be facing another firestorm after the interview airs. :D


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/wright-says-his-words-were-twisted/
April 24, 2008, 12:00 pm
Wright Says His Words Were Twisted

By Julie Bosman

In his first wide-ranging interview since video clips of his inflammatory sermons were aired, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. defended himself over the controversy, saying that his words were twisted.

Mr. Wright, Senator Barack Obama’s former pastor, gave an interview to Bill Moyers on Wednesday, to air on PBS tomorrow.

“I felt it was unfair,” Mr. Wright said, according to excerpts of the interview released Thursday. “I felt it was unjust. I felt it was untrue. I felt for those who were doing that, were doing it for some very devious reasons.”

In Mr. Wright’s sermons, he suggested that Americans bore some responsibility for the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, saying “America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” He also blamed the government for the spread of AIDS among African-Americans, characterized the United States government as corrupt and referred to the “U.S. of K.K.K. A.”

He did not apologize or back away from his remarks in the interview, instead saying that people wanted to paint him as “some sort of fanatic.”

“It’s to paint me as something — ‘Something’s wrong with me. There’s nothing wrong with this country … for its policies. We’re perfect. Our hands are free. Our hands have no blood on them,’” he said. “That’s not a failure to communicate. The message that is being communicated by the sound bites is exactly what those pushing those sound bites want to communicate.”

When asked what the people who aired the clips “wanted to communicate,” Mr. Wright said, “I think they wanted to communicate that I am unpatriotic, that I am un-American, that I am filled with hate speech, that I have a cult at Trinity United Church of Christ. And by the way, guess who goes to his church, hint, hint, hint? That’s what they wanted to communicate.”

Mr. Wright, who has acted as Mr. Obama’s spiritual mentor and retired in February as pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, said that he has never heard Mr. Obama repeat any of his controversial statements.

“Absolutely not,” Mr. Wright said. “I don’t talk to him about politics. And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician. I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God.”

Mr. Obama publicly denounced Mr. Wright’s remarks, a reaction Mr. Wright said “went down very simply.”

“He’s a politician, I’m a pastor,” he said. “We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. But they’re two different worlds.”

He added, “I do what I do. He does what politicians do. So that what happened in Philadelphia where he had to respond to the sound bytes, he responded as a politician.”

[noa]

You mean you didn't realize that Obama is a politician?

[HolmeZz]

Oh, they'll be able to make tons of negative ads with this!

Just kidding.

[memyselfI]

You mean you didn't realize that Obama is a politician?

Ah, but his spiritual advisor of twenty years is basically undercutting Baarack's own arguments of being a non-politican politician. Of course, he's confirmed what I and others suspected all along...

and that is Baarack will say and do anything he needs to as a politician. Basically, he's same shit, different dude.

Wow, that sounds familiar.

[noa]

Yeah, he's a politician. Not everyone is as delusional as you think.

You have this notion that Obama supporters are under the impression he is a god who graces us with his presence and transcends everything political. This view is a fiction.

Obama supporters want him in office, and he can't get in office unless he acts like a politician. You can't fight the Clinton machine or the Republican machine if you don't act like a politician. So he does what he has to do. And the voters understand that.

Your view of Obama supporters is very arrogant.

[memyselfI]

Yeah, he's a politician. Not everyone is as delusional as you think.

You have this notion that Obama supporters are under the impression he is a god who graces us with his presence and transcends everything political. This view is a fiction.

Obama supporters want him in office, and he can't get in office unless he acts like a politician. You can't fight the Clinton machine or the Republican machine if you don't act like a politician. So he does what he has to do. And the voters understand that.

Your view of Obama supporters is very arrogant.

That is not what he's saying here:

http://www.barackobama.net/barack-obama-quotes.html

People are very hungry for something new. I think they are interested in being called to be a part of something larger than the sort of small, petty, slash-and-burn politics that we have been seeing over the last several years.

Politics has become so bitter and partisan, so gummed up by money and influence, that we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions. And that's what we have to change first. We have to change our politics, and come together around our common interests and concerns as Americans.

It's not just enough to change the players. We've gotta change the game.

We’ve come to be consumed by a 24-hour, slash-and-burn, negative ad, bickering, small-minded politics that doesn’t move us forward.

[banyon]

Your view of Obama supporters is very arrogant.

http://www.dodgeboard.com/forums/images/smilies/yeahthat.gif

and delusional.

[jettio]

I would say that Wright's appearance on Bill Moyers and at the National Press Club next week is an opportunity to show that a man that has dedicated his life to a ministry that has helped a lot of people is a better person than anyone in the Hannity hyena pack.

Wright may have said some stupid things, but he is smarter and a better person than the keyboard jockeys and hyenas and vultures.

[Friendo]

I would say that Wright's appearance on Bill Moyers and at the National Press Club next week is an opportunity to show that a man that has dedicated his life to a ministry that has helped a lot of people is a better person than anyone in the Hannity hyena pack.

Wright may have said some stupid things, but he is smarter and a better person than the keyboard jockeys and hyenas and vultures.


abso-damn-lutely!:clap:

[NewPhin]

I imagine that Wright makes a similar distinction between political and preacher as this guy, who absolutely schools this reporter.

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Pt. 2 is where he goes into it more in depth:
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[Adept Havelock]

If someone who is not an Obama supporter may be permitted an observation:

While I am disgusted by many of the the things Rev. Wright has said, he gave honorable service to his country.

While I am disgusted by many of the things meme has said, she has belittled those that serve at almost every opportunity.

I know which of the two individuals I have more respect for.

[Taco John]

Replying to Dense's posts is like poking a dead bloated pig floating in a swamp of human feces. It might be amusing at first, but eventually that pig is going to blow... and chances are you're going to get shit all over you.

[Adept Havelock]

Replying to Dense's posts is like poking a dead bloated pig floating in a swamp of human feces. It might be amusing at first, but eventually that pig is going to blow... and chances are you're going to get shit all over you.

And the methane it releases contributes to global warming. Good call, TJ. I think I'll leave the swamp dweller alone from now on.

[Adam]

Wow. The Obama apologists have found a nice, comfortable home in the D.C. The Wright controversy is a massive embarrassment, and the thread title here is perfect.

Of course, none of the hate speech of Obama's pastor matters as much to me as Obama's own commitment to raising taxes, and the fact that he is now backing off on ending the war in Iraq.

[noa]

Who's apologizing for Obama?
So if I support the guy and think this thread is BS, I'm an apologist? As if I should feel guilty? Give me a break. Its easy to dismiss people you don't agree with by just calling them apologists.

[Taco John]

I think Jeremiah Wright and Ron Paul are delivering the same message when it comes to foriegn policy. They attack us because we're over there, meddling in their politics, and building bases on their holy land. I understand that Rudy and Hannity types want to score cheap political points with the "America can do no wrong" crowd. But the bottom line is that we were warned against entagling alliances and meddling in the affairs of other nations. The fact that we're being drug into unpopular wars that leave the troops fighting in foriegn lands that the folks back home care nothing about should tell anybody all they need to know about the failure of our foriegn policy.

[BucEyedPea]

Of course, none of the hate speech of Obama's pastor matters as much to me as Obama's own commitment to raising taxes, and the fact that he is now backing off on ending the war in Iraq.

Why do you say this?
This is the only reason I could vote for him.

[Sully]

Wait....wait just a dern tootin' minute!!!!!!


The guy running for president is a politician?!!?

Holy ****ing shit.

[memyselfI]

Tin foil moment...


Could Rev. Wright be in the tank for the Clintons? :hmmm:

What else would explain this awful appearance at this most vulnerable moment for his disciple??? :D

[Taco John]

Tin foil moment...


Could Rev. Wright be in the tank for the Clintons? :hmmm:

What else would explain this awful appearance at this most vulnerable moment for his disciple??? :D



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[patteeu]

Some Obama supporters may have understood that Obama is nothing better than a regular politician all along, but that is not the line the Obama camp was taking for the better part of his campaign.

I'm glad that we can finally all agree on this point. By my calculations, that leaves Obama without much of a campaign.

[Sully]

I understand opponents wanting to pain his "politicianship" as an all or nothing proposal. Ito only makes sense to try and pretend he built himself up to be something he couldn't possibly be.
But Obama never claimed not to be a politician...not once.

[Baby Lee]

I imagine that Wright makes a similar distinction between political and preacher as this guy, who absolutely schools this reporter.
I'd say that guy has some hatred for America, but he's white, so I guess he's just critical.

[Radar Chief]

Why do you say this?
This is the only reason I could vote for him.

Obama Adviser Calls for 60,000-80,000 U.S. Troops To Stay in Iraq Through 2010

By ELI LAKE
Staff Reporter of the Sun
April 4, 2008

WASHINGTON — A key adviser to Senator Obama's campaign is recommending in a confidential paper that America keep between 60,000 and 80,000 troops in Iraq as of late 2010, a plan at odds with the public pledge of the Illinois senator to withdraw combat forces from Iraq within 16 months of taking office.

Probably just trash written by a bunch of fugg’n NeoCons, right BEP.

[HolmeZz]

Probably just trash written by a bunch of fugg’n NeoCons, right BEP.

No, but it is a twisting of the fact. Colin Kahl is not Obama's key foreign policy person. He was stating his own recommendation. That doesn't make it Obama's position nor does it insinuate Barack doesn't want to end the war.

You will hear silly things from the opposition when it comes to Barack's opposition to the war. It's a common practice, trying to chip away at your opponent's greatest strength. Won't work though.

[Radar Chief]

No, but it is a twisting of the fact. Colin Kahl is not Obama's key foreign policy person.

He’s not? Not that I care, but ok.

He was stating his own recommendation.

Correct.
I posted that just to poke a little fun at BEP, since she takes it so well. ;)

[patteeu]

I understand opponents wanting to pain his "politicianship" as an all or nothing proposal. Ito only makes sense to try and pretend he built himself up to be something he couldn't possibly be.
But Obama never claimed not to be a politician...not once.

Haha Obama talks of change but but brings us more of the same.

[Sully]

Haha Obama talks of change but but brings us more of the same.

While some of the things he has done/will do are the same, he has done plenty different, and I believe he will do plenty different. But pickingout a bare few things he has done that you consider "politician" like, and lcaiming that's the whole picture is (I believe purposely) inaccurate and insincere. But I understand why it's better for you to act that way, so I don't expect you to change, in that regard.

[patteeu]

While some of the things he has done/will do are the same, he has done plenty different, and I believe he will do plenty different. But pickingout a bare few things he has done that you consider "politician" like, and lcaiming that's the whole picture is (I believe purposely) inaccurate and insincere. But I understand why it's better for you to act that way, so I don't expect you to change, in that regard.

And likewise, I don't really expect you to accurately evaluate your candidate and admit that he has a habit of making insincere statements and associating with people who simply don't like the US in it's current form.

Obama not only doesn't own the role as post-political, post-racial uniter, he doesn't even have a valid claim to a share of it anymore. He's a fraud and he's perfectly willing to lie or pander when it suits him. And he's now pursuing the 51% victory that his supporters deride.

[HolmeZz]

And likewise, I don't really expect you to accurately evaluate your candidate...

Oh the irony coming from someone who attempted to downplay all of Mitt's flip-flops. LMAO

[memyselfI]

I understand opponents wanting to pain his "politicianship" as an all or nothing proposal. Ito only makes sense to try and pretend he built himself up to be something he couldn't possibly be.
But Obama never claimed not to be a politician...not once.

Worse, he claimed to be a 'different' politician up there on his pedestal and looking smugly down on the regular politicians and that is why he looks like a raging hypocrite.

[patteeu]

Oh the irony coming from someone who attempted to downplay all of Mitt's flip-flops. LMAO

Other than saying he was a good person and that I trusted him, I never tried to claim that my candidate was a new, better kind of candidate. And yes, I objected to the dramatic exaggerations regarding so-called flip flops.

[go bowe]

I would say that Wright's appearance on Bill Moyers and at the National Press Club next week is an opportunity to show that a man that has dedicated his life to a ministry that has helped a lot of people is a better person than anyone in the Hannity hyena pack.

Wright may have said some stupid things, but he is smarter and a better person than the keyboard jockeys and hyenas and vultures.what's this?

when i wanted to ride a horse to victory, they told me that i was just a tad overweight for racing...

by about 150 pounds...

[vailpass]

Oh the irony coming from someone who attempted to downplay all of Mitt's flip-flops. LMAO

Waddup wigga'!?

[HonestChieffan]

Tell it all Rev, tell it all!!!

[Calcountry]

I think Jeremiah Wright and Ron Paul are delivering the same message when it comes to foriegn policy. They attack us because we're over there, meddling in their politics, and building bases on their holy land. I understand that Rudy and Hannity types want to score cheap political points with the "America can do no wrong" crowd. But the bottom line is that we were warned against entagling alliances and meddling in the affairs of other nations. The fact that we're being drug into unpopular wars that leave the troops fighting in foriegn lands that the folks back home care nothing about should tell anybody all they need to know about the failure of our foriegn policy.Sorry dude, but we have been "meddling in the affairs of other nations since the birth of our nation. Unless you don't consider England a nation.

[Sully]

ROFLAnd likewise, I don't really expect you to accurately evaluate your candidate and admit that he has a habit of making insincere statements and associating with people who simply don't like the US in it's current form.

Obama not only doesn't own the role as post-political, post-racial uniter, he doesn't even have a valid claim to a share of it anymore. He's a fraud and he's perfectly willing to lie or pander when it suits him. And he's now pursuing the 51% victory that his supporters deride.

ROFL

Bravo.
I would expect nothing less (?) of you.
Someone asked memyself last week to name some dishonest things Obama has said. She came with a cut and paste of a list of 10 (I think) things. Looking at the list, there were about 3 that could possibly be seen as legit, the rest were silly exaggerations on the part of the author.
As far as "associating with people who don't like the US in its current form" I assume you can only be referring to the much exaggerated quote by his wife, and the even more exaggerated quotes by his minister (who served in this country's military). That's funny, but no matter how dumb you want to play with these... you simply know that's not what they are. At some point I'll stop assuming you are smarter than that... but for now I'll make the assumption that you are.

[memyselfI]

Based on the clips they have shown from Rev. Wright and Baaarack's response, we should really acknowledge Obama's ability to alienate his spiritual advisor. Obama has managed to inspire his mentor to throw him under the bus...or so it seems. Not many of us can inspire that sort of reaction from people of God.

Imagine the sort of unity he has in mind for the rest of us. :doh!::spock::eek:

[Baby Lee]

Someone asked memyself last week to name some dishonest things Obama has said.
Obama's problem isn't gonna come from an untruth where he points at a green apple and says 'that is a red apple.'
His problem remains, when he says 'I'm gonna do something new, something people are yearning for, something that unites people by finding common-sense middle ground and implements sound effective policies,' people remain unsure, based on his background, affiliations, assocations, and some obtuse comments, what exactly that means when the rubber hits the road.

And saying 'duh, he's a politician being a politician' doesn't help him in that regard.

[Sully]

Obama's problem isn't gonna come from an untruth where he points at a green apple and says 'that is a red apple.'
His problem remains, when he says 'I'm gonna do something new, something people are yearning for, something that unites people by finding common-sense middle ground and implements sound effective policies,' people remain unsure, based on his background, affiliations, assocations, and some obtuse comments, what exactly that means when the rubber hits the road.

And saying 'duh, he's a politician being a politician' doesn't help him in that regard.

That's true.
Guess what... hardcore cons will not be "united" by this guy. People who will drown their children before admitting Bush may have ever done anything wrong are not gonna be "united" by the guy. Pat, and some of the other far righties will do everything they can to smear him just as much as they feel Bush has been smeared, and not for a second see the silliness in doing what they've been whining about for 8 years. He is a Dem, and he's a Lib. But I think that some moderates, who don't see their answer as the only possible solution (and call everyone to the left of them commies) can like some of what he does.

I don't for a second think he's the perfect candidate. He's got tons of baggage. Of course, I don't think any of it has ANY bearing on what he'd do as president, especially a few quotes by his wife and his minister.

But I also think that by some of us saying he's different, those who will do their best to make him look as bad as possible will use that as an opportunity to make that mean, "He said he's not a politician...HE LIED!!!!!" All I'm doing is pointing out he IS a politician. he never claimed not to be. That doesn't for a second preclude him from being different. And I believe he is.

What do you think "the same" type of politician would have done in this race against Hillary? Do you think, with the way she's dropped her left and kept her nose open she'd be nearly this close to any other candidate?

[patteeu]

That's true.
Guess what... hardcore cons will not be "united" by this guy. People who will drown their children before admitting Bush may have ever done anything wrong are not gonna be "united" by the guy. Pat, and some of the other far righties will do everything they can to smear him just as much as they feel Bush has been smeared, and not for a second see the silliness in doing what they've been whining about for 8 years. He is a Dem, and he's a Lib. But I think that some moderates, who don't see their answer as the only possible solution (and call everyone to the left of them commies) can like some of what he does.

I don't for a second think he's the perfect candidate. He's got tons of baggage. Of course, I don't think any of it has ANY bearing on what he'd do as president, especially a few quotes by his wife and his minister.

But I also think that by some of us saying he's different, those who will do their best to make him look as bad as possible will use that as an opportunity to make that mean, "He said he's not a politician...HE LIED!!!!!" All I'm doing is pointing out he IS a politician. he never claimed not to be. That doesn't for a second preclude him from being different. And I believe he is.

What do you think "the same" type of politician would have done in this race against Hillary? Do you think, with the way she's dropped her left and kept her nose open she'd be nearly this close to any other candidate?

So what makes Obama "different" then if pandering, parsing, and deceiving like a regular politician aren't related to what you mean? Surely "different" doesn't just mean "black". Is he different because, up until last week, he refused to wear patriotic lapel pins? Is he different because he spoke out against going to war in Iraq when he didn't have the responsibility of a vote (only to waffle back and forth on that position throughout the intervening years when he actually had a vote in the matter)? What's "different" mean to you in this context, Sully?

[HolmeZz]

Pat's ignorance is cute.

When you're bringing up the flag pin thing(and we've gone over again and again why he put on the pin at the event), you know you're struggling.

[vailpass]

Pat's ignorance is cute.

When you're bringing up the flag pin thing(and we've gone over again and again why he put on the pin at the event), you know you're struggling.

Yeah man, powa to tha peoples. Hollmmmeezzzzz
is down wit da cause, know wha' ahm sayin'?

[alanm]

I got a kick out of seeing this today.:)

[memyselfI]

So what makes Obama "different" then if pandering, parsing, and deceiving like a regular politician aren't related to what you mean? Surely "different" doesn't just mean "black". Is he different because, up until last week, he refused to wear patriotic lapel pins? Is he different because he spoke out against going to war in Iraq when he didn't have the responsibility of a vote (only to waffle back and forth on that position throughout the intervening years when he actually had a vote in the matter)? What's "different" mean to you in this context, Sully?

He's half black, has a foreign sounding name, and gives good speeches.

DUH. :doh!:

[HolmeZz]

Dunno if anybody's been watching the Wright interview on Moyers, but it's been excellent. I recommend catching it at some point.

[alanm]

Dunno if anybody's been watching the Wright interview on Moyers, but it's been excellent. I recommend catching it at some point.
What a shocker, it's Bill Moyers.:spock:

[HolmeZz]

Yup, so you got to actually hear Wright speak. If he had appeared on Hannity, Sean just would've interrupted and talked over him for 30 minutes. Tonight's interview actually provided intelligent conversation that you're not going to get from ANY of the major news networks. It's refreshing to get to hear people speak their minds without somebody else ready to jump down their throat. If that's something you're interested in, I'd recommend watching the whole piece.

[Adam]

Why do you say this?
This is the only reason I could vote for him.

9 months ago Obama was scoring huge points by promising an immediate withdrawal from Iraq. In debates, I think I remember even hearing 90 days to completely get out. Hillary took fire from all the other candidates during those debates for saying there was no way it could be done that fast, and her stock gradually fell.

Now you never hear any such promise from Obama, and his campaign has moderated saying he reserves the right to act on whatever information is given to him by the generals in charge.

[ClevelandBronco]

Perhaps we should move past Rev. Wright and focus on Sen. Obama's deceit about Rev. Wright.

Just a thought, since the Rev. isn't running for a damned thing.

This is typical political sleight of hand.

[HolmeZz]

Hillary took fire from all the other candidates during those debates for saying there was no way it could be done that fast, and her stock gradually fell.

Hillary's calling for a quicker withdrawal than Obama.

I have never heard Obama call for immediate withdrawal. He's talked about a phased withdrawal that will be dictated by the situation on the ground when he gets in office. He's made a point of saying he's going to be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in. There's no plan that can be set in stone right now that will definitely be applicable 10-12 months from now.

[Adam]

Hillary's calling for a quicker withdrawal than Obama.

I have never heard Obama call for immediate withdrawal. He's talked about a phased withdrawal that will be dictated by the situation on the ground when he gets in office. He's made a point of saying he's going to be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in. There's no plan that can be set in stone right now that will definitely be applicable 10-12 months from now.

Hillary has changed her tune. Last year she was still the candidate of inevitability, and had gone along with trying to play the moderate, responsible role in preperation for the general election. The other candidates were all calling for immediate or near-immediate withdrawal, with Obama and Richardson having the most extreme statements that I can recall in debate. (For some reason I don't remember Edwards answer, I think because he didn't get cornered or challenged as much as Obama and Richardson in the couple of debates I watched.)

[Sully]

So what makes Obama "different"

That's a fair question... although I know you already know the answers. But I'll go with this exercise in pointing out the obvious...

1) He (and I) is tired of the "them versus us" type of politics we have been living with over the past couple of decades. Although it has always been there, I truly believe it has escalated to a great extent since Reagan. He has worked his ass off to take the conversation in a direction of serious discussion of issues, rather than circus sideshows like "Your minister hates America" or "You never saw sniper fire in your life." As I already said, if he were a full-on every day politician, he'd be killing Hillary, due to her continued gaffes. But he has shown some integrity and (for the most part) taken the high road. He's not a choir boy, in this regard, and he will have to go negative to an extent (this is the real world). But I don't believe you will see the blood and guts that you would if he weren't at least a little different.
Does that mean he's going to suddenly become a conservative to make righties happy? No... but at the same time, I think he will look for solutions to problems that are compromises, and take that route when he truly believes it's best for the country. At the very least, he's certainly not a guy who will only vote what his party wants him to vote for, IMO.

2) Although I think the "no money from lobbyist" thing is a bit overblown, I think he's shown that he will not be beholden to corporate interests. I think he is a guy who very truly has the best for the country in mind when making decisions, rather than the past few presidents who have had gaining power as their top priority. Is the power thing a factor? Yeah, I'm sure it is... but I don't believe it's THE factor with this man.

3) He's not afraid to stand up to power. See his words to automakers in Detroit, or his refusal to throw his minister under the bus. If you want to pretend it didn't happen, this won't help, btu also see his speech against the war beforehand. While everyone is wringing their hands and saying it didn't matter that he did that, as he didn't have a vote, it absolutely did matter. What if he'd turned out to be wrong? How would that have helped him politically. You've convinced yourself that he chose a church based on political expediency, but you think if he were that calculating he wouldn't have chosen a different point to make wrt this? You don't get to have it both ways.

4) Finally, and most importantly, he's not one of the other two candidates. Two who have proven they actually ARE, in EVERY WAY, the same ole, same ole when it comes to politicians. Even if the different that makes him different is marginal, he still represents far more change than the next GW Bush, or the next Bill Clinton.

[memyselfI]

Baahaa, Juan Williams on FNS just mentioned the possiblity that Rev. Wright might be in the tank for the Clintons. He said there is a theory going around that if Baarack loses that Rev. Wright's views about Whites would be validated and justified. Hence with BO losing Rev. Wright wins and that is why he's on his media tour.

:spock: :doh!: :D

[memyselfI]

OMG, I think Rev. Wright is going to be a GIFT for the DNC cuz he's going to cost Obama the election and they have an out now.

[Pennywise]

"Axktsk not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country."

[BIG_DADDY]

Was he mooching a smoke?

[Calcountry]

Baahaa, Juan Williams on FNS just mentioned the possiblity that Rev. Wright might be in the tank for the Clintons. He said there is a theory going around that if Baarack loses that Rev. Wright's views about Whites would be validated and justified. Hence with BO losing Rev. Wright wins and that is why he's on his media tour.

:spock: :doh!: :DYou have GOT to stop listening to Limbaugh.

[Guru]

You have GOT to stop listening to Limbaugh.

If Rush threw that out there it was only as a joke. I listened to the first 2.5 hours and there was nothing mentioned like that today.

[Calcountry]

Wright>Jessie Jackson now.

[Calcountry]

If Rush threw that out there it was only as a joke. I listened to the first 2.5 hours and there was nothing mentioned like that today.I listened to the first 5 minutes only today, and RL hypothesised that JW was throwing BHO under the buss to solidify the necessity of race baitors like Dr. Wright. In other words, job security for Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton etc.

[memyselfI]

If Rush threw that out there it was only as a joke. I listened to the first 2.5 hours and there was nothing mentioned like that today.

I didn't hear Rush say it. I mentioned that prospect last Friday morning. Post #19.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=183591&page=3

[Calcountry]

I didn't hear Rush say it. I mentioned that prospect last Friday morning. Post #19.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=183591&page=3
I always knew you were smarter than rush, gee, I should start listening to you instead.

If only I could be smart enough to understand you and jettio. I should have an operation on my brain sos I could get it.

[Baby Lee]

Baahaa, Juan Williams on FNS just mentioned the possiblity that Rev. Wright might be in the tank for the Clintons. He said there is a theory going around that if Baarack loses that Rev. Wright's views about Whites would be validated and justified. Hence with BO losing Rev. Wright wins and that is why he's on his media tour.

:spock: :doh!: :D

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/columnists/louis/index.html

:doh!:^2

[memyselfI]

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/columnists/louis/index.html

:doh!:^2

I don't know if that invitation explains Wright's entire tour but the more he's talked the worse he's become for Obama's situation. Thus, if he had just showed up at the Press Club with guns blazing it would look very suspicious regarding the Clinton connection. But he started with Bill Moyers, then went to the NAACP and finally the Press Club.

I think the only certainty in all of this is it's clear that Rev. Wright finds Baarack to be a fake assed self serving politician.

[banyon]

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