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royr17
04-26-2008, 07:30 AM
This makes a very interesting question.

What to do if Vernon Gholston is there at # 5. Well since he is basically the prototype for a 3-4 linebacker, I believe I would definately get on the phone with New England to see if they wanna move up to pick him.

Next if that were to happen, I would try to make a trade with New Orleans from the 7 spot for there 10 and OT Jammal Brown.

Just couple of interesting scenarios there. Whats your take on this guys ?

royr17
04-26-2008, 07:40 AM
Come on guys, lets get this thread rollin.

ChiliConCarnage
04-26-2008, 07:53 AM
Option A: Trade out, in particular if the Pats did want Gholston that would be perfect. I'd go way undervalue on the swap just to get out of the position. Then we could select Ellis at 7 and pay him way less.

Option B: Select Ellis and pay him #5 pick money unfortunately.


The ideal situation for us would be if ATL selects Ryan or if STl/ATL trade out there pick to someone who wants Ryan. Then we could get C Long, who'd be ideal for us.

pr_capone
04-26-2008, 07:56 AM
I am still crossing my fingers that Al does something stupid (not unheard of, right?) and lets Dorsey slip through his fingers and takes McFadden at #4.

#2 - Long - Rams
#3 - Ryan - Falcons
#4 - McFadden - Raiders
#5 - Dorsey - Chiefs

suds79
04-26-2008, 08:03 AM
Well there's lots of options.

We could look to trade down a couple of spots and still get Ellis who could simply end up a better player than Gohlston.

we could draft Ellis.

we could draft Ryan.

Or we could just draft Gholston.... He is the 2nd highest rated DE in this draft after all.

My preference would be to trade down for Ellis (or just draft him) or take Ryan.

milkman
04-26-2008, 08:08 AM
Vernon Gholston at 6'3" and 265 is also a protypical DE in a cover two.

The Chiefs base defense is a cover two, but Gunt also likes to mix it up.

Gholston's athleticism and versatility could actually make chicken salad out of Gunt's chicken shit mad scheming.

Fairplay
04-26-2008, 08:14 AM
The last couple weeks this place has gotten me to confused who to draft right now.

I honestly think the Chiefs will trade down a few spots and take Clady.

pr_capone
04-26-2008, 08:14 AM
The last couple weeks this place has gotten me to confused who who to draft right now.

I honestly think the Chiefs will trade down a few spots and take Clady.

Either that or we will continue trading down until we have 20 4th rd picks and hope to strike Allen type gold again. :D

eazyb81
04-26-2008, 08:15 AM
If he's the best player on our board, take him. I'm not sure what is confusing about that.

milkman
04-26-2008, 08:17 AM
The last couple weeks this place has gotten me to confused who to draft right now.

I honestly think the Chiefs will trade down a few spots and take Clady.


If they take Clady, with any pick, I'm flying to Chicago and shooting Frazod's refrigerator.

mylittlepony
04-26-2008, 08:18 AM
Now I know Im not the biggest Sedrick Ellis supporter, but in our system... with the rarity of that level of player at his position we take him. However if the top 4 is:

1. J.Long
2. C.Long
3. Dorsey
4. McFadden

I feel pretty safe trading to Patriots at 7. Partly because I dont think the Jets will take Ellis (they could however trade down with Saints or Cincy) and partly because I think Ryan is ok at 7.

ChiliConCarnage
04-26-2008, 08:19 AM
I'd like to add another option, it should be considered B2. It has higher risk than B1 but could work out better.

Option B2: Pull a Vikings and just let the pick slide. If the draft were to go down in that fashion it's almost certain the Jets would select Gholston or Ryan. If the Jets select Fools Gholdston then it gets a bit dicey. The pats might select Ellis themselves or they might trade out of it to Cinci or someone who would like Ellis.

If you could sneak past the Pats, say they draft Albert. Then the Ravens would definately select Ryan at 8, and we could be right on their heels with our Ellis pick at 9. It would save us millions in cap space. Unfortunately, I think the Pats would screw it up.

Coogs
04-26-2008, 08:57 AM
I have been doing some honeydoo things around the house this morning. I have ESPN on in the background. And man.... Gholston is flat getteing roasted.

I know some guys here are high on him.... but damn... he is getting absolutely flamed for nearly everything.

Friendo
04-26-2008, 09:00 AM
missed it---such as...?

SBK
04-26-2008, 09:10 AM
If Gholston is there and Dorsey is not you draft Gholston. Duh.

Fairplay
04-26-2008, 09:26 AM
What time does the draft start now?

pr_capone
04-26-2008, 09:29 AM
What time does the draft start now?

2 PM CST

melbar
04-26-2008, 09:57 AM
Gholston will be there unless Al fell in love with his measurables. He's still the 2nd best DE in the draft, but it depends on whether Dorsey or Long are there.