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Bootlegged
04-26-2008, 10:46 AM
partners. Could work out well....get 3 1st rounders today?

nychief
04-26-2008, 10:47 AM
if he is actually there... we are going to take him.

Tribal Warfare
04-26-2008, 10:47 AM
if he is actually there... we are going to take him.


QFT

kstater
04-26-2008, 10:47 AM
No, if Dorsey falls to 5, Chiefs shouldn't even answer the phone. Sprint to the podium before the other teams realize their stupidity and call for a do-over.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2008, 10:48 AM
if dorsey falls to us we should turn down all those trades and just select dorsey.

Woodrow Call
04-26-2008, 10:48 AM
TAKE THE BEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT F*** TRADING DOWN

DaKCMan AP
04-26-2008, 10:48 AM
Why are so many people so stupid? If Dorsey is there YOU TAKE HIM!!

Bootlegged
04-26-2008, 10:51 AM
What about Tank and Turk??? ROFL

DaKCMan AP
04-26-2008, 10:52 AM
What about Tank and Turk??? ROFL

Yeah, you're right. Teams only need 4 starters to have a dominant D-Line. No one subs guys or has a rotation or any depth. :rolleyes:

pr_capone
04-26-2008, 10:53 AM
No, if Dorsey falls to 5, Chiefs shouldn't even answer the phone. Sprint to the podium before the other teams realize their stupidity and call for a do-over.

ROFLROFLROFL

Fish
04-26-2008, 10:55 AM
Run to the podium with fingers in ears "La la la la la la la la Chiefs select Glenn Dorsey!"

Short Leash Hootie
04-26-2008, 10:59 AM
I don't know, if we get a Ricky Williams rape job deal from a team desperate for Glenn Dorsey...you take it.

melbar
04-26-2008, 11:00 AM
Pass on the best player in the draft and the best DT prospect since W. Sapp? We already have 13 picks. NOBODY we would get in the 2nd would be worth passing on him even if we still landed Ellis.

Tribal Warfare
04-26-2008, 11:01 AM
Run to the podium with fingers in ears "La la la la la la la la Chiefs select Glenn Dorsey!"



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Chief Wiggum
04-26-2008, 11:02 AM
I was bummed when I heard Long was going to the Rams, but I never thought we could get Dorsey. We HAVE to take him! My emotions are all over the place...now I know what women feel like...

Short Leash Hootie
04-26-2008, 11:03 AM
Pass on the best player in the draft and the best DT prospect since W. Sapp? We already have 13 picks. NOBODY we would get in the 2nd would be worth passing on him even if we still landed Ellis.

If we swapped with someone and get their 2nd + 3rd and a 2009 1st and still stay in the top 12 I'm doing it in a heartbeat...

I like Glenn...I love Glenn...but we can still find elite talent to fill a hole in the top 12 and keep gaining for the future...

eazyb81
04-26-2008, 11:03 AM
Does this remind anyone else of the DJ situation?

sedated
04-26-2008, 11:04 AM
Pass on the best player in the draft and the best DT prospect since W. Sapp?

I thought he was the best prospect since Ryan Sims

sedated
04-26-2008, 11:04 AM
He won't be there anyway. No chance he gets past the Rams

Tribal Warfare
04-26-2008, 11:04 AM
Does this remind anyone else of the DJ situation?


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=4710628&postcount=45

Bootlegged
04-26-2008, 11:10 AM
Yeah, you're right. Teams only need 4 starters to have a dominant D-Line. No one subs guys or has a rotation or any depth. :rolleyes:

Dude - was a joke.

DT58HOF
04-26-2008, 11:17 AM
1 Miami Jake Long
2 Rams C. Long
3 Falcons M. Ryan
4 Raider take Mcfadden or Ellis( i would of taken Dorsey here)
5 Chiefs take the best trade available
but i would love the Saints OT Brown plus only move down 5 spots,maybe we can suck more out of them once they know other teams are calling and trying to move up.
i say we get Jammal Brown ,#10 and the saints #76
Saints get #5 and our #82
so adding to what Mchsay said we do that plus just swap a few spots in the third.

rad
04-26-2008, 11:20 AM
1 Miami Jake Long
2 Rams C. Long
3 Falcons M. Ryan
4 Raider take Mcfadden or Ellis( i would of taken Dorsey here)
5 Chiefs take the best trade available
but i would love the Saints OT Brown plus only move down 5 spots,maybe we can suck more out of them once they know other teams are calling and trying to move up.
i say we get Jammal Brown ,#10 and the saints #76
Saints get #5 and our #82
so adding to what Mchsay said we do that plus just swap a few spots in the third.


Ahomasayswhat?

pr_capone
04-26-2008, 11:21 AM
1 Miami Jake Long
2 Rams C. Long
3 Falcons M. Ryan
4 Raider take Mcfadden or Ellis( i would of taken Dorsey here)
5 Chiefs take the best trade available
but i would love the Saints OT Brown plus only move down 5 spots,maybe we can suck more out of them once they know other teams are calling and trying to move up.
i say we get Jammal Brown ,#10 and the saints #76
Saints get #5 and our #82
so adding to what Mchsay said we do that plus just swap a few spots in the third.

If you are willing to trade down with Dorsey begging to wear the Red... you sir must be out of your f*cking skull.

dj56dt58
04-26-2008, 11:27 AM
Pass on the best player in the draft and the best DT prospect since W. Sapp? We already have 13 picks. NOBODY we would get in the 2nd would be worth passing on him even if we still landed Ellis.

oh god..not another DT being compared to Sapp

Here comes Ryan Sims part 2

I say we trade down..we've wasted enough picks on DTs..we draft Dorsey and he turns out to be a bust its gonna set us back again. With us rebuilding I say get as many picks as we can..The only two players I wouldn't pass on would be Ryan or McFadden and obviously we're not gonna draft McFadden

The Bad Guy
04-26-2008, 11:29 AM
For all of you who want to trade down, lick my taint.

We have 13 picks, and some of you act like we have 3 to use to fill 10 holes.

dj56dt58
04-26-2008, 11:33 AM
For all of you who want to trade down, lick my taint.

We have 13 picks, and some of you act like we have 3 to use to fill 10 holes.

Im not completely against taking him..But being a rebuilding team, if the right offer comes along we should at least look into it

tomahawk kid
04-26-2008, 11:34 AM
For all of you who want to trade down, lick my taint.

We have 13 picks, and some of you act like we have 3 to use to fill 10 holes.

Exactly.

You take Dorsey and then try go package picks to get ahead of the Donks to take Chris Williams.

pr_capone
04-26-2008, 11:35 AM
For all of you who want to trade down, lick my taint.

We have 13 picks, and some of you act like we have 3 to use to fill 10 holes.

Exactly.

You take Dorsey and then try go package picks to get ahead of the Donks to take Chris Williams.

QFT

Chiefs Pantalones
04-26-2008, 11:39 AM
OMG Kiper has us picking Harvey at #5. And no I'm not talking about Harvey Williams.

dj56dt58
04-26-2008, 11:40 AM
ok I just changed my mind..Take Dorsey and dont think twice..Damn had we kept Allen imagine that duo

Bootlegged
04-26-2008, 11:41 AM
TRADE DOWN

the Talking Can
04-26-2008, 11:41 AM
Exactly.

You take Dorsey and then try go package picks to get ahead of the Donks to take Chris Williams.

or, just take dorsey, the bpa at #17, and Baker in the 2nd...

dj56dt58
04-26-2008, 11:41 AM
OMG Kiper has us picking Harvey at #5. And no I'm not talking about Harvey Williams.

If we keep our pick at 5 and Dorsey is there and we pass i will ****ing kill Peterson..and Herm

tomahawk kid
04-26-2008, 11:41 AM
OMG Kiper has us picking Harvey at #5. And no I'm not talking about Harvey Williams.

THERE's a guy who I think has BUST written all over him.

nychief
04-26-2008, 11:44 AM
Williams is going to be very good. I just don't want him at 5, if we traded with the saints, then i'd want him at 10 possibly..

dj56dt58
04-26-2008, 11:44 AM
THERE's a guy who I think has BUST written all over him.

your not the only one

Mecca
04-26-2008, 11:45 AM
Lets trade down 27 times then we can have all the picks in the 6th and 7th round.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-26-2008, 11:45 AM
partners. Could work out well....get 3 1st rounders today?

This is why people think you're a dumbass.

Bootlegged
04-26-2008, 11:46 AM
This is why people think you're a dumbass.

Go beat off to your Obama poster.

Mecca
04-26-2008, 11:48 AM
Look at it this way.....

If they were to get Dorsey, mocks now have Keith Rivers falling to the Chiefs at 17 you get those 2 then go Brohm you have 3 cornerstones for your future then start working on your OL.

the Talking Can
04-26-2008, 11:51 AM
Look at it this way.....

If they were to get Dorsey, mocks now have Keith Rivers falling to the Chiefs at 17 you get those 2 then go Brohm you have 3 cornerstones for your future then start working on your OL.

that would kick ass

people forget how much money we have too...we can start filling holes via FA next year, if necessary...

Tribal Warfare
04-26-2008, 11:52 AM
go Brohm you have 3 cornerstones for your future then start working on your OL.


I have no problem with this scenario

Mecca
04-26-2008, 11:55 AM
This guy on ESPN news just said Chiefs fans revolt if they took another DT when talking about Dorsey, and brought up what the scared people around here always say.

Tribal Warfare
04-26-2008, 11:57 AM
This guy on ESPN news just said Chiefs fans revolt if they took another DT when talking about Dorsey, and brought up what the scared people around here always say.


Apparently he hasn't done his research, because it's quite the opposite

Mecca
04-26-2008, 11:59 AM
Apparently he hasn't done his research, because it's quite the opposite

There is a portion that does think that though, we've seen it here.

They also basically said we're the worst team in the league and all that.

alanm
04-26-2008, 12:05 PM
This guy on ESPN news just said Chiefs fans revolt if they took another DT when talking about Dorsey, and brought up what the scared people around here always say.
With all due respect to espn they don't have a clue as to the Chiefs needs. A dominant defensive lineman will have more impact right off the bat than any olineman we could pick up.

Coach
04-26-2008, 12:08 PM
With all due respect to espn they don't have a clue as to the Chiefs needs. A dominant defensive lineman will have more impact right off the bat than any olineman we could pick up.

Agreed. The Chiefs can get O-Linemen at 17 or at the 2nd round.

alanm
04-26-2008, 12:09 PM
You can't pass on a Dorsey who is possibly a franchise player considering we just traded one for a song and a dance.
That said we can't underestimate the stupidity that is Carl Peterson. :spock:

HolmeZz
04-26-2008, 12:10 PM
If the Saints offer Jamaal Brown and the 10th pick for #5, I take it.

nychief
04-26-2008, 12:10 PM
no way Dorsey is available at 5. NO or the Pats or god knows who...will trade into 3rd spot.

Mecca
04-26-2008, 12:10 PM
Some people just want to trade down WAY to much.

Coach
04-26-2008, 12:11 PM
Some people just want to trade down WAY to much.

I'd just stay at 5 and pick either Ellis, Gholstein, or Dorsey, assuming how it's played out.

alanm
04-26-2008, 12:13 PM
Fortunately I won't have to watch the stupidity on espn. I'll be switching to NFL network as soon as the draft starts. :thumb:

alanm
04-26-2008, 12:19 PM
I'd just stay at 5 and pick either Ellis, Gholstein, or Dorsey, assuming how it's played out.
If Carl is even thinking of trading out of the 5 spot I hope some Chief fan in the audience comes up and does a Robert Di Nero ala the Untouchables with a baseball bat.

unothadeal
04-26-2008, 12:20 PM
I didn't watch the Chiefs lose nine games straight just to pick roster fillers.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-26-2008, 12:22 PM
According to ESPN, we are interested in Dorsey, but entertaining offers to trade down to the 7 to 10 spot to get the offensive lineman they covet.

Gay gay gay.

Take Dorsey or Gholston and stay put.

Mecca
04-26-2008, 12:24 PM
The Chiefs better be milking this OL thing for all it's worth in order to screw with other teams...

tk13
04-26-2008, 12:28 PM
I think it's insanely stupid that all these teams are supposedly revealing their picks this early.

I think we're playing it smart, we absolutely should not be revealing crap until we're on the clock. We have 10 minutes, we absolutely should be listening to offers up until it's our turn. If Dorsey's there it'll probably be an easy choice, but if somebody panics and offers us a really really dumb trade, we need to be ready to listen to it. It doesn't mean we have to take anything, but it's freaking stupid not to leave the possibility open. Everyone else is already starting to panic and the draft hasn't even started.

markk
04-26-2008, 12:28 PM
If Dorsey is there, just pick him. Listen to offers up until the last minute, but have his name on the card in case no one offers a huge deal

Anyong Bluth
04-26-2008, 12:31 PM
STUPID F()CKING. RETARDED

YOU DON"T LEAVE OR TRADE AWAY PROBABLY THE TOP PICK TALENTWISE IN THE DRAFT- ESP WHEN YOU GET HIM AT 5 AND DON'T HAVE TO PAY HIM #1 $$$$$


YOU DON'T LET A BLUE CHIP DT WALK - SANS A HERSHEL WALKER TYPE TRADE

allen_kcCard
04-26-2008, 12:34 PM
What are the chances of trading out of the spot for someone that wants Dorsey, grabbing another pick or two and then still getting Gholston?

According to ESPN, we are interested in Dorsey, but entertaining offers to trade down to the 7 to 10 spot to get the offensive lineman they covet.

Gay gay gay.

Take Dorsey or Gholston and stay put.

Mecca
04-26-2008, 12:35 PM
What are the chances of trading out of the spot for someone that wants Dorsey, grabbing another pick or two and then still getting Gholston?

The Jets and Pats covet Gholston, 7 is the absolute lowest he goes.

Bootlegged
04-26-2008, 12:37 PM
Dorsey will be hurt most of his career - he's a bust in waiting. Trade down - get the 10th overall, a Pro Bowl OT, use 10 on Albert and 17 on DE.

ChiliConCarnage
04-26-2008, 12:46 PM
If you told me a couple of months back Dorsey would fall to us I would have pooped myself.

That said, if the Saints really offer up a young all pro LT in Brown to drop to 10... you've gotta consider that.

patteeu
04-26-2008, 01:07 PM
I'd just stay at 5 and pick either Ellis, Gholstein, or Dorsey, assuming how it's played out.

If there are 3 guys you're willing to take, why wouldn't you be willing to trade down to at least #7?

Coach
04-26-2008, 01:08 PM
If there are 3 guys you're willing to take, why wouldn't you be willing to trade down to at least #7?

I would, but the thing is, I'm sure the team at #7 wouldn't do it, becuase of salary complications.

DT 1 at #5 is going to be a little bit more expensive than DT 2 at #7, IMHO.

the Talking Can
04-26-2008, 01:10 PM
espn reported that Chiefs have Dorsey as #1 player in draft, but may still trade down..."for need"

Brock
04-26-2008, 01:14 PM
Holy shit that would be stupid.

'Hamas' Jenkins
04-26-2008, 01:14 PM
espn reported that Chiefs have Dorsey as #1 player in draft, but may still trade down..."for need"

I knew that a 24 pack wasn't enough.

siberian khatru
04-26-2008, 01:17 PM
espn reported that Chiefs have Dorsey as #1 player in draft, but may still trade down..."for need"

I will eat Carl's liver with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

tomahawk kid
04-26-2008, 01:19 PM
I knew that a 24 pack wasn't enough.

I've got an 18 and 2 cases......for myself and my brother in law.

Always have to be prepared.

Coach
04-26-2008, 01:19 PM
espn reported that Chiefs have Dorsey as #1 player in draft, but may still trade down..."for need"

Somebody should tell the Chiefs that their "needs" is pretty much every ****ing position. Take the ****ing best player available, dumb ****ers.

ChiefsCountry
04-26-2008, 01:19 PM
Chiefs will take Dorsey, they are just saying all this trade down stuff to see if somebody is stupid enough to give them the farm for Dorsey.

tomahawk kid
04-26-2008, 01:21 PM
Chiefs will take Dorsey, they are just saying all this trade down stuff to see if somebody is stupid enough to give them the farm for Dorsey.

I hope that's the case.

You gotta take Dorsey unless someone offers you a Hershel Walker type deal.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-26-2008, 01:24 PM
In all seriousness, the Chiefs will pick Dorsey. They aren't that stupid.

And off topic, I think McFadden has the potential to be the next Lawrence Philips, off the field issues-wise. If the Raiders pick him, lets hope that comes true.

patteeu
04-26-2008, 01:27 PM
Chiefs will take Dorsey, they are just saying all this trade down stuff to see if somebody is stupid enough to give them the farm for Dorsey.

It's more likely a ploy to keep teams from trading ahead of them to take Dorsey, IMO.

HolmeZz
04-26-2008, 01:31 PM
I'll be happy with Dorsey or trading down a few spots and taking Albert.

C-Mac
04-26-2008, 01:32 PM
Its on record back in March that Peterson stated he would pick Dorsey if he had the first pick in the draft.

Coach
04-26-2008, 01:33 PM
Its on record back in March that Peterson stated he would pick Dorsey if he had the first pick in the draft.

Evidence, please?

ChiefsCountry
04-26-2008, 01:34 PM
Evidence, please?

He did say that. I dont have the link, but he did say it.

C-Mac
04-26-2008, 01:35 PM
Evidence, please?

I will have to some research but a reporter was pestering him to "hypothetically" say who he would pick if he had the first pick. He was hesitant then finally said Dorsey.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-26-2008, 01:36 PM
NFL Network guys think we'll pick Gholston

Coach
04-26-2008, 01:38 PM
I will have to some research but a reporter was pestering him to "hypothetically" say who he would pick if he had the first pick. He was hesitant then finally said Dorsey.

Sounds like to me that he doesn't know the Draft that well. Of course, it can be just another smokescreen as well, for all we know.

booger
04-26-2008, 01:38 PM
:cuss:all this predraft rumors and such is just for tv ratings and to raise my gal damn bloodpressure.

booger
04-26-2008, 01:39 PM
i've heard carl say on the redzone podcast w/Petro on kcchiefs.com that Dorsey is #1 on their board

Chiefs Pantalones
04-26-2008, 01:41 PM
i've heard carl say on the redzone podcast w/Petro on kcchiefs.com that Dorsey is #1 on their board

NFL Network said that too, but we will draft for "need" and go with Gholston. Quality OLmen can be found later on in the draft, and we have tank and turk.

Bootlegged
04-26-2008, 01:43 PM
NFL Network said that too, but we will draft for "need" and go with Gholston. Quality OLmen can be found later on in the draft, and we have tank and turk.

Trade down to 10 w/Saints, pick up Jamaal Brown and then pick Gholston.

Coach
04-26-2008, 01:44 PM
Trade down to 10 w/Saints, pick up Jamaal Brown and then pick Gholston.

I don't know if he'll get past Cincy....

Mecca
04-26-2008, 01:44 PM
Trade down to 10 w/Saints, pick up Jamaal Brown and then pick Gholston.

Ha

No way he lasts that long he's gone by 7...at the very very worst the Bengals take him.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-26-2008, 01:45 PM
Trade down to 10 w/Saints, pick up Jamaal Brown and then pick Gholston.

Gholston will be long gone at 10. Pats or Jets will pick him.

Bootlegged
04-26-2008, 01:45 PM
Gholston will be long gone at 10. Pats or Jets will pick him.

Then trade down again.

Mecca
04-26-2008, 01:47 PM
Then trade down again.

I hope you get hit by a bus.

Tribal Warfare
04-26-2008, 01:47 PM
Then trade down again.


You just love mediocrity or worse

Chiefs Pantalones
04-26-2008, 01:47 PM
Then trade down again.

WTF dude. Do you want 25 picks in this draft? lol.

Trading down has gotten this franchise nowhere, and it will continue to if we don't select BPA.

Mecca
04-26-2008, 01:49 PM
He just wants to get a rise out of us.......until someone finds his house and starts strangling him.

booger
04-26-2008, 01:49 PM
NFL Network said that too, but we will draft for "need" and go with Gholston. Quality OLmen can be found later on in the draft, and we have tank and turk.

Personally i would still take dorsey and play Turk at LE and Tamba at RE while looking to pickup Groves or Jackson from USC in the second or Jeremy thompson from Wake Forest in the 3rd to compete with turk. Dorsey and Ellis are 2 of the best to come along in awhile.

Bootlegged
04-26-2008, 01:50 PM
It's not like CP will sign a high draft pick anyway...

We can trade down and pick up 2 OL a CB and DE in the 1st.

Tribal Warfare
04-26-2008, 01:51 PM
I.

We can trade down and pick up 2 OL a CB and DE in the 1st.



you are R-tarded

El Jefe
04-26-2008, 02:59 PM
It's such a moot point, why in the Hell do you pass on a DT that may be the best DT in the draft for years to come? You just dont do that.