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BigVE
04-27-2008, 10:06 AM
Who dat? MU tiger fans speak out now.

blueballs
04-27-2008, 10:07 AM
WR Missouri

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=158511

GoHuge
04-27-2008, 10:07 AM
I'd much rather our homer pick be Jordy, but still not too bad.

KCKID58
04-27-2008, 10:08 AM
remember Franklin from "the Replacements"...

evolve27
04-27-2008, 10:08 AM
Willie Mo

banyon
04-27-2008, 10:08 AM
sux

KcMizzou
04-27-2008, 10:09 AM
Willie MoThat'd be S William Moore.

shaneo69
04-27-2008, 10:09 AM
I guess you don't really need to play with five o-linemen or two DE's...

Ultra Peanut
04-27-2008, 10:09 AM
The next Crapmie Thorker.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-27-2008, 10:10 AM
Anything MU is the suck.

CupidStunt
04-27-2008, 10:10 AM
4.37 speed. That's our deep guy, the guy you dump it off to and expect a big gain once every three catches.

Some of you guys need to research shit. You don't just reach for OL or one of the horrible DEs remaining.

buddha
04-27-2008, 10:10 AM
I'd love to have the Helicopter in the 4th. For the KU honks, I'd be happy with Collins as well.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2008, 10:10 AM
Not a good pick.

He just has bad hands. He made some fantastic plays for us, but was just as likely to drop one in space. He disappeared at times last season and by the end of the year was probably our 4th best WR behind Maclin, Alexander and even Perry.

Not a good pick at all, IMO. Shoulda gone with Nicks without question.

J Diddy
04-27-2008, 10:10 AM
remember Franklin from "the Replacements"...


LOL

you haven't even begun to scratch the surface of will Franklin

will franklin is a one man cold
he's the only one catching it
he's the only one coming down with it

el borracho
04-27-2008, 10:11 AM
"Overall: In his first three seasons at Missouri (2004-'06), Franklin played in 34 games (22 starts) and had 94 receptions for 1,416 yards (15.1 average) and nine touchdowns. He tore the labrum in his right shoulder in 2006 and underwent surgery that kept him out for the Tigers' final two games. He started all 14 games as a senior, posting 49 receptions for 709 yards (14.5 average) and four touchdowns. Franklin is an underrated deep-threat with good size, excellent speed and improving hands. While his numbers dipped last year he showed no ill effects from the shoulder injury and stayed healthy during the 2007 season, so he projects as a fourth-to-fifth round pick.
"

BigVE
04-27-2008, 10:11 AM
Great draft until this pick...there goes the neighborhood.

Pitt Gorilla
04-27-2008, 10:11 AM
I predicted he'd go in the 5th or 6th round. He's got the size, speed, and blocking ability that the Chiefs covet. However, he was maybe the 5th or 6th receiving option in MU's offense. Of course, those ahead of him are pretty good: Coffman, Rucker, Maclin, Alexander, Saunders.

banyon
04-27-2008, 10:12 AM
4.37 speed. That's our deep guy, the guy you dump it off to and expect a big gain once every three catches.

Some of you guys need to research shit. You don't just reach for OL or one of the horrible DEs remaining.

Collins or Nicks aren't reaches and most people had thenm graded as 3rds.

Ultra Peanut
04-27-2008, 10:12 AM
4.37 speed. That's our deep guy, the guy you dump it off to and expect a big gain once every three catches.

Some of you guys need to research shit. You don't just reach for OL or one of the horrible DEs remaining.Nicks isn't a reach, and Adibi would have been an awesome addition to the defense.

This guy is a replacement for Samie. Maybe.

BigVE
04-27-2008, 10:13 AM
My problem with this pick is that he would have more than likely been there in round 5.

evolve27
04-27-2008, 10:13 AM
That'd be S William Moore.

Oh, thanks.

Spott
04-27-2008, 10:13 AM
Anything MU is the suck.

Says the team that couldn't stop him.

RINGLEADER
04-27-2008, 10:14 AM
I predicted he'd go in the 5th or 6th round. He's got the size, speed, and blocking ability that the Chiefs covet. However, he was maybe the 5th or 6th receiving option in MU's offense. Of course, those ahead of him are pretty good: Coffman, Rucker, Maclin, Alexander, Saunders.

Not a bad pick, but unlike the others there's not much value here.

Fills a need I guess.

Spott
04-27-2008, 10:14 AM
Great draft until this pick...there goes the neighborhood.


Yeah, it really sucks to have straight guys on the team.

CosmicPal
04-27-2008, 10:15 AM
My problem with this pick is that he would have more than likely been there in round 5.

William Franklin, Missouri
Height: 6-0. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.40.
Combine 40 Time: 4.37.
Vertical: 40.5. Broad 10-11.
Projected Round: 3.
William Franklin's 4.37 (at 214 pounds) made some noise at the combine. His vertical wasn't too shabby either.

Has grown leaps and bounds his first three years, increasing his yardage total from 174 (2004) and 413 (2005) to 829 (2006). Also caught six touchdowns. Franklin's 40 time will likely get him into the first day.

siberian khatru
04-27-2008, 10:15 AM
My problem with this pick is that he would have more than likely been there in round 5.

Maybe, maybe not. 4 is around where he was projected. All the WRs fell this year, though, so maybe he would've shifted down a bit. It's not really a reach, though. Only question is would you rather have drafted a different position.

evolve27
04-27-2008, 10:15 AM
Pick Analysis: At over 6-feet and 214 pounds, Franklin has impressive speed (he ran a 4.3 40) for a guy his size. He is extremely explosive and was generally graded as a third rounder, so Kansas City gets good value in the fourth round.

CupidStunt
04-27-2008, 10:16 AM
Nicks isn't a reach, and Adibi would have been an awesome addition to the defense.

This guy is a replacement for Samie. Maybe.

Nicks doesn't fit the profile at all. We want nothing to do with him.

Adibi's okay, but he's just a chase LB. Poor, poor, poor version of Donnie Edwards. He'll probably be on the board for a bit longer, too. And we're pretty good at OLB.

I have no problem with this pick at all.

J Diddy
04-27-2008, 10:16 AM
4.37 speed. That's our deep guy, the guy you dump it off to and expect a big gain once every three catches.

Some of you guys need to research shit. You don't just reach for OL or one of the horrible DEs remaining.

6'2 205 not bad size either

wazu
04-27-2008, 10:16 AM
Wow. One o-lineman in the first four rounds. Glad we finally got a third RB, though.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2008, 10:16 AM
I will say this, it's not Kris Wilson.

He could produce for us. 2 seasons ago he probably graded out as a 3rd round guy prior to a down 2008. He is very fast and did a good job of getting open. He's an extremely high character guy, never complained despite obviously being moved down in the offensive pecking order.

I think he'd have been there with our 5th. Ultimately I'd have rather seen Nicks or Adibi, but this isn't a completely useless (i.e Kris Wilson) pick.

CupidStunt
04-27-2008, 10:17 AM
My problem with this pick is that he would have more than likely been there in round 5.

G

blueballs
04-27-2008, 10:17 AM
Jeff Webb and Bobby Sippio is the competetion
sounds like a sure starter

BigVE
04-27-2008, 10:17 AM
Yeah, it really sucks to have straight guys on the team.
Is that all you got? Here spot, here spot, c'mon boy....fetch the stick! 4321432143214321STFU

Tribal Warfare
04-27-2008, 10:17 AM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/will-franklin?id=1022

CupidStunt
04-27-2008, 10:17 AM
My problem with this pick is that he would have more than likely been there in round 5.

Very much doubt it. Guys like Eddie Royal went in the middle of round two. Speed, nevermind when coupled with size, is coveted.

On the other hand, some of the guys being begged for in here WILL be available in round five.

shaneo69
04-27-2008, 10:18 AM
4.37 speed. That's our deep guy, the guy you dump it off to and expect a big gain once every three catches.

Some of you guys need to research shit. You don't just reach for OL or one of the horrible DEs remaining.

There were three OL's taken almost immediately after Franklin. So I guess it wouldn't have really been a reach.

KC kid
04-27-2008, 10:19 AM
Of course, would you expect anything else from an MU guy?

Negatives: Has a confirmed learning disability that requires extra assistance with school work

aturnis
04-27-2008, 10:22 AM
Sounds like we got Sammie Parker back...

J Diddy
04-27-2008, 10:22 AM
I will say this, it's not Kris Wilson.

He could produce for us. 2 seasons ago he probably graded out as a 3rd round guy prior to a down 2008. He is very fast and did a good job of getting open. He's an extremely high character guy, never complained despite obviously being moved down in the offensive pecking order.

I think he'd have been there with our 5th. Ultimately I'd have rather seen Nicks or Adibi, but this isn't a completely useless (i.e Kris Wilson) pick.

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR class=colhead align=right ?><TD align=left>YEAR</TD><TD>REC</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>ATT</TD><TD>YDS</TD><TD>AVG</TD><TD>LNG</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>FUM</TD><TD>LST</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>174</TD><TD>29.0</TD><TD>46</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>-6</TD><TD>-6.0</TD><TD>-6</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2005</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>413</TD><TD>10.3</TD><TD>42</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>17</TD><TD>2.1</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=right><TD align=left>2006</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>829</TD><TD>17.3</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>6</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>2007</TD><TD>49</TD><TD>709</TD><TD>14.5</TD><TD>72</TD><TD>4</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0.0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

those numbers aren't bad

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 10:22 AM
Good pick imo, not being a homer but he's better than Parker likely anyway. Good size too and speed.

BigVE
04-27-2008, 10:23 AM
Ok, upon further review I don't think this is as bad a pick as I originally thought. Guy could be alright for us. Look at who is left at WR and you have a hard time coming up with anyone with this size/speed combo. The MU thing blinded me a bit at first...he will look ok in red/gold. :)

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 10:24 AM
Ok, upon further review I don't think this is as bad a pick as I originally thought. Guy could be alright for us. Look at who is left at WR and you have a hard time coming up with anyone with this size/speed combo. The MU thing blinded me a bit at first...he will look ok in red/gold. :)

There were alot of weapons for MU and he may have had better #'s if he was on another team that needed a main WR or #2 easily.

Count Zarth
04-27-2008, 10:24 AM
Rucker to the Browns.

MU fans rejoice.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 10:25 AM
Rucker to the Browns.

MU fans rejoice.

Should be a pretty good double TE set with Winslow, damn

Bowser
04-27-2008, 10:26 AM
LOL @ KU dipshits. Ari prolly blew a gasket.

Spott
04-27-2008, 10:26 AM
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Good highlights of Franklin at :30 in and 2:32 into video.

JBucc
04-27-2008, 10:26 AM
"Has a confirmed learning disability that requires extra assistance with school work...Will need extra reps in practice due to poor mental retention"

BigVE
04-27-2008, 10:26 AM
Now Rucker goes...if I was going to go after a MU guy it would have been Rucker at TE (instead of Cottam). Eh, we will see soon enough who is who.

FWIW, what is Cleveland thinking? With Winslow still young and healthy why move up to get Rucker????

siberian khatru
04-27-2008, 10:26 AM
I just wonder how Will will do transitioning from a spread offense to ... whatever that thing Herm runs.

siberian khatru
04-27-2008, 10:28 AM
Now Rucker goes...if I was going to go after a MU guy it would have been Rucker at TE (instead of Cottam). Eh, we will see soon enough who is who.

FWIW, what is Cleveland thinking? With Winslow still young and healthy why move up to get Rucker????

Cottam is bigger and higher ranked. Biggest issues with him were health.

Winslow isn't healthy -- had knee problems all last year, just had surgery again.

J Diddy
04-27-2008, 10:29 AM
"Has a confirmed learning disability that requires extra assistance with school work...Will need extra reps in practice due to poor mental retention"

we need some wonderlic scores

Bowser
04-27-2008, 10:29 AM
Now Rucker goes...if I was going to go after a MU guy it would have been Rucker at TE (instead of Cottam). Eh, we will see soon enough who is who.

FWIW, what is Cleveland thinking? With Winslow still young and healthy why move up to get Rucker????

That would make a sick offense in two tight end sets - Braylon Edwards, Donte Stallworth, Jamal Lewis, Kellen Winslow, and Martin Rucker. Damn.

J Diddy
04-27-2008, 10:30 AM
I just wonder how Will will do transitioning from a spread offense to ... blocking for the run game.

FYP

shaneo69
04-27-2008, 10:30 AM
There were alot of weapons for MU and he may have had better #'s if he was on another team that needed a main WR or #2 easily.

Well if you're gonna say that, then you could say that he may have been covered by the opposing teams' #1 CB had he been the best WR for another school.

Ultra Peanut
04-27-2008, 10:30 AM
"Has a confirmed learning disability that requires extra assistance with school work...Will need extra reps in practice due to poor mental retention"I thought that said "mental retardation" at first, and I was suddenly very excited to discover that we had a retarded receiver on the team.

BigVE
04-27-2008, 10:32 AM
Cottam is bigger and higher ranked. Biggest issues with him were health.

Winslow isn't healthy -- had knee problems all last year, just had surgery again.

I didn't realize Winslow had more injury issues. I know Cottam's stats but that was just a personal preference for me. Rucker looks like he could be the Antonio Gates of Cleveland.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 10:32 AM
I thought that said "mental retardation" at first, and I was suddenly very excited to discover that we had a retarded receiver on the team.

We had one, it was Sammie Parker

BigVE
04-27-2008, 10:32 AM
I thought that said "mental retardation" at first, and I was suddenly very excited to discover that we had a retarded receiver on the team.

Wouldn't be the first we have had though. ;)

Bowser
04-27-2008, 10:33 AM
I thought that said "mental retardation" at first, and I was suddenly very excited to discover that we had a retarded receiver on the team.

Well we did, until he thought he could make a living in MMA.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2008, 10:34 AM
Rucker doesn't even approach what the Chiefs needed. He's a good hands guy, but not real quick, lots of bubble screens and such so there's no telling how he'll do at the next level. I like Cottam's potential more.

That catch at 2:32 in the above video was the play that I was thinking about when I said 'some fantastic plays for us'...it was a fantastic play, even kept both feet in. His 2007 season had even more of those highlight plays (when he got the nickname 'helicopter').

I'm warming to the pick and I'm happy for the MU kid.

Ultra Peanut
04-27-2008, 10:35 AM
We had one, it was Sammie ParkerDaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

http://www.kaasa.com/img/mgf-icecold.jpg

KcMizzou
04-27-2008, 10:36 AM
Well we did, until he thought he could make a living in MMA.

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Ultra Peanut
04-27-2008, 10:37 AM
I will never stop laughing at that, but to be fair, he wasn't retarded until AFTER he got knocked the **** out.

J Diddy
04-27-2008, 10:38 AM
meh

I like the pick

Frazod
04-27-2008, 10:38 AM
LOL @ KU dipshits. Ari prolly blew a gasket.

LMAO

Nice MISSOURI college pick for our MISSOURI professional team.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 10:42 AM
LMAO

Nice MISSOURI college pick for our MISSOURI professional team.

We should've drafted an elite KU WR, was there even one in the draft besides aquib bluntib?

Bowser
04-27-2008, 10:44 AM
I will never stop laughing at that, but to be fair, he wasn't retarded until AFTER he got knocked the **** out.

Cue Chris Tucker....




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SNR
04-27-2008, 10:51 AM
We should've drafted an elite KU WR, was there even one in the draft besides aquib bluntib?Give me a break. The guy can't crack out of a 4th option for MU and he's supposed to be something special at the pro level? That's bullshit, you don't take guys like that in the 4th round.

Bowser
04-27-2008, 10:54 AM
Give me a break. The guy can't crack out of a 4th option for MU and he's supposed to be something special at the pro level? That's bullshit, you don't take guys like that in the 4th round.

Catching 49 passes with Jeremy Maclin, Martin Rucker, and Chase Kauffman in front of you isn't something to be ashamed of. This kid will play.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 10:54 AM
Give me a break. The guy can't crack out of a 4th option for MU and he's supposed to be something special at the pro level? That's bullshit, you don't take guys like that in the 4th round.

Who said that i said he'll be special?? He probably will be solid here, he has speed atleast, and size

markk
04-27-2008, 10:54 AM
i like the pick. franklin has good size and good speed. he is a good developmental prospect.

why should we take the best player available in early rounds but then here in the 4th and 5th all of a sudden knee jerk to needs? with guys available who are ALL projects at best?

stay on plan

tomahawk kid
04-27-2008, 10:55 AM
Give me a break. The guy can't crack out of a 4th option for MU and he's supposed to be something special at the pro level? That's bullshit, you don't take guys like that in the 4th round.

How much MU football did you watch the last couple of years?

Franklin's a player. In the spread, you're probably not going to have a reveiver catch over 40-50 balls.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 10:56 AM
How much MU football did you watch the last couple of years?

Franklin's a player. In the spread, you're probably not going to have a reveiver catch over 40-50 balls.

Exactly...

eazyb81
04-27-2008, 10:58 AM
Give me a break. The guy can't crack out of a 4th option for MU and he's supposed to be something special at the pro level? That's bullshit, you don't take guys like that in the 4th round.

Franklin was more of a deep threat, and Daniel focused more on screens and underneath passes.

Plus, the three guys ahead of him were Rucker and two future 1st rounders in Maclin and Coffman.

Ari Chi3fs
04-27-2008, 10:59 AM
would have MUCH rather had 6'6 317lb Anthony Collins here...

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 11:00 AM
would have MUCH rather had 6'6 317lb Anthony Collins here...

think collins will last till the 5th?? i wouldnt mind drafting him but i like the pick

markk
04-27-2008, 11:00 AM
we already have two tackles.

i guess we will hear the case that collins is better than albert now

markk
04-27-2008, 11:01 AM
think collins will last till the 5th?? i wouldnt mind drafting him but i like the pick

he's a bungle

tomahawk kid
04-27-2008, 11:01 AM
think collins will last till the 5th?? i wouldnt mind drafting him but i like the pick

Looks like he and Nicks are both still dropping.

shaneo69
04-27-2008, 11:02 AM
Ekwerekwu was better...

markk
04-27-2008, 11:03 AM
Round 4, Pick 6 (105) Will Franklin WR 6'1" 214 Missouri

Pick Analysis:At over 6-feet and 214 pounds, Franklin has impressive speed (he ran a 4.3 40) for a guy his size. He is extremely explosive and was generally graded as a third rounder, so Kansas City gets good value in the fourth round.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 11:05 AM
he's a bungle

well shiaaat

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 11:05 AM
Round 4, Pick 6 (105) Will Franklin WR 6'1" 214 Missouri

Pick Analysis:At over 6-feet and 214 pounds, Franklin has impressive speed (he ran a 4.3 40) for a guy his size. He is extremely explosive and was generally graded as a third rounder, so Kansas City gets good value in the fourth round.

Yeah i didn't understand why a select few are ripping this pick

Frazod
04-27-2008, 11:05 AM
In honor of the Chiefs drafting Franklin I am now wearing Roy's lucky shirt. :)

eazyb81
04-27-2008, 11:10 AM
Yeah i didn't understand why a select few are ripping this pick

Ignorance or stupidity - take your pick.

Reerun_KC
04-27-2008, 11:11 AM
In honor of the Chiefs drafting Franklin I am now wearing Roy's lucky shirt. :)
Good thing we drafted another Sammie Parker...
:shake:

eazyb81
04-27-2008, 11:12 AM
Good thing we drafted another Sammie Parker...
:shake:

The difference is that Franklin could actually catch. Some people think that's important for WRs.

Frazod
04-27-2008, 11:13 AM
Good thing we drafted another Sammie Parker...
:shake:

Yeah, Franklin never caught a damn thing, did he? :rolleyes:

markk
04-27-2008, 11:14 AM
will franklin is just like amie parker... that's rich.

siberian khatru
04-27-2008, 11:14 AM
Yeah i didn't understand why a select few are ripping this pick

Yes you do.

Reerun_KC
04-27-2008, 11:16 AM
Yeah, Franklin never caught a damn thing, did he? :rolleyes:

Oh okay Frazod, thanks to these, I see what your talking about...

http://www.cs-music.com/features/cards/poster_rose-glasses.jpeg

Frazod
04-27-2008, 11:18 AM
Oh okay Frazod, thanks to these, I see what your talking about...

http://www.cs-music.com/features/cards/poster_rose-glasses.jpeg

I guess if I took those and smeared shit all over them I'd see what you do.

KcMizzou
04-27-2008, 11:19 AM
Yes you do.LMAO

CupidStunt
04-27-2008, 11:19 AM
F**king goofy Jayhawk fans. STFU.

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 11:20 AM
Yes you do.

:evil:

Skip Towne
04-27-2008, 11:22 AM
Is that all you got? Here spot, here spot, c'mon boy....fetch the stick! 4321432143214321STFU

:LOL:

DJ's left nut
04-27-2008, 11:22 AM
The difference is that Franklin could actually catch. Some people think that's important for WRs.

Having watched every game Mizzou played over the last 2 seasons, I am comfortable saying that Franklin's hands are at best slighly better than Parker's.

Remember, Parker made some great snares. It was the play-to-play consistency he lacked. Franklin is a carbon copy of that. Franklin made some unreal plays for us...then he'd drop 15 yard slant in space.

Franklin is Parker, but that's okay. When Parker came out, we all knew that he just needed to focus on the game and get consistent, if so he'd be a great player for us. Just about everyone liked the Parker pick b/c of his upside, speed and flashes of brilliance. Unfortunately, Parker didn't progress, he had a bad attitude and didn't put the work in to develop. Franklin is a taller Parker. Very fast, some very good catches, and some absolutely stupid drops that were a result of poor concentration. However, he came a long way as a teammate at Mizzou, I think he's more likely to put in that effort that Parker didn't.

siberian khatru
04-27-2008, 11:22 AM
:evil:

This thread is this close to becoming "Yeah, well, if Franklin was worth a shit HE WOULD'VE PLAYED IN A BCS BOWL!!!! RCJHGKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

markk
04-27-2008, 11:24 AM
This thread is this close to becoming "Yeah, well, if Franklin was worth a shit HE WOULD'VE PLAYED IN A BCS BOWL!!!! RCJHGKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

you mean if mike alden were worth a sh*t franklin would have plated in a bcs bowl

Sure-Oz
04-27-2008, 11:25 AM
This thread is this close to becoming "Yeah, well, if Franklin was worth a shit HE WOULD'VE PLAYED IN A BCS BOWL!!!! RCJHGKU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

LMAO

siberian khatru
04-27-2008, 11:25 AM
you mean if mike alden were worth a sh*t franklin would have plated in a bcs bowl

I mean that this thread is nothing more than the usual KU v. MU pissing match.

markk
04-27-2008, 11:28 AM
sorry i misinterpreted the meaning there.

i agree with what someone said above, he's got good size, good speed, but holes in his game and we'll see if he can mature. he can definitely make big plays.

Rausch
04-27-2008, 11:28 AM
He fills the same need Joe Horn did when he was here. He stretches the defense and runs the vertical and go routes. With his speed we should be able to open up the middle more for Gonzo. I think he'd be a good 3rd guy...

siberian khatru
04-27-2008, 11:31 AM
sorry i misinterpreted the meaning there.

i agree with what someone said above, he's got good size, good speed, but holes in his game and we'll see if he can mature. he can definitely make big plays.

Same could be said of virtually every 4th round pick.

He's got talent in an area where we need it. He wasn't a reach. Let's see how he pans out.

BigVE
04-27-2008, 11:35 AM
Jared Allen was a 4th round "reach" at one time too.

siberian khatru
04-27-2008, 11:36 AM
Jared Allen was a 4th round "reach" at one time too.

So you're saying we can eventually trade Franklin for a 1st and two 3rds? :evil:

BigVE
04-27-2008, 11:41 AM
So you're saying we can eventually trade Franklin for a 1st and two 3rds? :evil:

Works for me.

Reerun_KC
04-27-2008, 12:01 PM
I guess if I took those and smeared shit all over them I'd see what you do.
I did that, and I see what you are talking about that really brought to light the comparison between the two... Thanks for the tip....

Rep for Helping me see what your seeing!:clap:

Braincase
04-27-2008, 12:17 PM
Do you see us using Franklin as a return guy?

DJ's left nut
04-27-2008, 12:19 PM
Do you see us using Franklin as a return guy?


Not if Carr makes the squad and not with Jamaal Charles here. I never really like Franklin returning. Something of a long-strider, didn't seem to change directions well.

Bob Dole
04-27-2008, 12:24 PM
Yeah i didn't understand why a select few are ripping this pick

Because they are KU fans.

Thig Lyfe
04-27-2008, 12:30 PM
From an optimistic standpoint, he could be the lightning to Bowe's thunder. He'd be the speedster who can stretch the field and Bowe would be the one who could take advantage of it.

Braincase
04-27-2008, 12:33 PM
Because they are KU fans.

I don't know enough about Franklin to say whether or not he's a good fit. I tend to look for intellect along the offensive line and QB positions, as well as LB. Defensive line, I want channeled aggression. WR, I don't know if you need really smart guys out there. So long as Franklin runs the right routes and catches the damn ball, he's fine in my book.

I never really advocated for any of KU's players. I knew Talib was an idiot, and Collins may be a serviceable OL, but I don't see him as being an all-pro guy. If they help the Chiefs achieve their goals, they can be from Al Qaeda University for all I care... so long as they don't blow up anybody.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2008, 12:45 PM
Franklin isn't a dumb kid, at least not on the field. He was always the guy that Daniel would start looking for when things fell apart because Franklin was the first guy to recognize that Daniel needed help and he'd cut off his route.

He has very good football sense. I think the 'extra practice' knock is just stupid. Maybe in a Coryell offense, but not in a standard set. The kid ran the most complicated offensive system in college football and did just fine.

If his hands are consistent, he's a very good player. He has everything else, but those hands of his come and go, often at the worst times.

Pablo
04-27-2008, 01:16 PM
We'll see how he handles NFL speed bullets from Brodie. He doesn't have a spread-offense hobbit lobbing him the ball anymore.

I guess I can stop hating him now that he's a Chief. At least having a MU reciever on our squad will give me the chance to blame him for everything that goes wrong.

"Dammit Franklin, why weren't you blocking that DT, that's the 5th sack we've given up this game.."

"WTF Franklin, if you'd just run a little faster Brodie wouldn't have overthrown you by 10 yards..."

"F*cking get with it Franklin, those LB's aren't going to block themselves at the second level, give LJ a little help..."

:D

DJ's left nut
04-27-2008, 01:19 PM
We'll see how he handles NFL speed bullets from Brodie. He doesn't have a spread-offense hobbit lobbing him the ball anymore.

I guess I can stop hating him now that he's a Chief. At least having a MU reciever on our squad will give me the chance to blame him for everything that goes wrong.

"Dammit Franklin, why weren't you blocking that DT, that's the 5th sack we've given up this game.."

"WTF Franklin, if you'd just run a little faster Brodie wouldn't have overthrown you by 10 yards..."

"F*cking get with it Franklin, those LB's aren't going to block themselves at the second level, give LJ a little help..."

:D

Wait a minute, our spread offense hobbit could kick your spread offense hobbit's ass.

Pablo
04-27-2008, 01:22 PM
Wait a minute, our spread offense hobbit could kick your spread offense hobbit's ass.Probably, but they're both spread offense hobbits so there's really no victory there. Daniel is a better QB than Reesing, which isn't saying much, but they're both really just system QB's. Really not much different than Colt Brennan in that respect.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Probably, but they're both spread offense hobbits so there's really no victory there. Daniel is a better QB than Reesing, which isn't saying much, but they're both really just system QB's. Really not much different than Colt Brennan in that respect.

Not entirely true, Daniel can actually gun it pretty well.

He'll have to turn the Breeze trick, b/c he's certainly short. But he's a thick kid that oughta be able to handle the rigors of the NFL, he has a quick release and he can make all the throws a QB needs to make.

Probably won't get drafted higher than 4th, but I think he can succeed at the next level.

beer bacon
04-27-2008, 01:28 PM
I predicted he'd go in the 5th or 6th round. He's got the size, speed, and blocking ability that the Chiefs covet. However, he was maybe the 5th or 6th receiving option in MU's offense. Of course, those ahead of him are pretty good: Coffman, Rucker, Maclin, Alexander, Saunders.

Franklin was not the 5th or 6th receiving option for MU last season. J-Mac was the first receiving option. Franklin was the #2 WR receiving option and Rucker/Coffman were the 1a and 1b TE receiving options. Franklin and the TEs were not asked to do the same things.

Saunders, Alexander, Perry, and all the other receivers were clearly lower on the totem poll than Franklin. Alexander was the #3 WR option and Saunders has always been a great blocker and possession WR.

Pablo
04-27-2008, 01:29 PM
Not entirely true, Daniel can actually gun it pretty well.

He'll have to turn the Breeze trick, b/c he's certainly short. But he's a thick kid that oughta be able to handle the rigors of the NFL, he has a quick release and he can make all the throws a QB needs to make.

Probably won't get drafted higher than 4th, but I think he can succeed at the next level.He's definately small, and he does possess intangibles, but he reminds me of Brennan for the simple fact that he isn't really elite in any area. He has average/little above average armstrength, and he makes smart decisions, but he's 6' on his tip-toes. I wouldn't be suprised if he went undrafted or crept into the 6th or 7th round. He might make a practice squad or be someones 3rd stringer, but I just don't see NFL written all over him.

DJ's left nut
04-27-2008, 01:30 PM
Franklin was not the 5th or 6th receiving option for MU last season. J-Mac was the first receiving option. Franklin was the #2 WR receiving option and Rucker/Coffman were the 1a and 1b TE receiving options. Franklin and the TEs were not asked to do the same things.

Saunders, Alexander, Perry, and all the other receivers were clearly lower on the totem poll than Franklin. Alexander was the #3 WR option and Saunders has always been a great blocker and possession WR.

By the end of the season, who would you rather have seen get the ball? Yes, Franklin was still the #2 WR on the chart, but was he our 2nd best WR? Absolutely not. Alexander was better, without question. You could make an argument that Saunders and Perry were outplaying him at that point as well.

He just really got into a funk over the 2nd half of the season. You could count on him having at least 1 bad drop per game.

beer bacon
04-27-2008, 01:32 PM
Yeah i didn't understand why a select few are ripping this pick

It is because in their completely unbiased opinion we should have drafted someone from KU.

Pablo
04-27-2008, 01:34 PM
It is because in their completely unbiased opinion we should have drafted someone from KU.I wouldn't have minded having Marcus Henry, but Franklin will do just fine.

And I'm not saying Henry is the better talent, because I really haven't seen too much of Franklin. Regardless of what school he went to, he's a Chief now and I wish him success in the organization, he'll just take a little more warming up to than usual...

buddha
04-27-2008, 02:19 PM
Ekwerekwu was better...

At what? Not football. That's a ridiculous statement.

Franklin is already better than Sammy Parker ever was. I'm sick of the KU homerism on this site. This kid will be a Chief, so we should be pulling for him. I'd say the same thing if he were a former KU player.

Franklin is dynamic, deep threat with good size. Some of you clowns will actively bad mouth him and hope that he fails because he's from Missouri. :cuss:

buddha
04-27-2008, 02:21 PM
I wouldn't have minded having Marcus Henry, but Franklin will do just fine.

And I'm not saying Henry is the better talent, because I really haven't seen too much of Franklin. Regardless of what school he went to, he's a Chief now and I wish him success in the organization, he'll just take a little more warming up to than usual...

Right on. You are a prime example of a good KU fan who is also a good KC fan. I admire your ability to separate college loyalties from the discussion here.

Pitt Gorilla
04-27-2008, 02:41 PM
Franklin was not the 5th or 6th receiving option for MU last season. J-Mac was the first receiving option. Franklin was the #2 WR receiving option and Rucker/Coffman were the 1a and 1b TE receiving options. Franklin and the TEs were not asked to do the same things.

Saunders, Alexander, Perry, and all the other receivers were clearly lower on the totem poll than Franklin. Alexander was the #3 WR option and Saunders has always been a great blocker and possession WR.Franklin is a great fit for the Chiefs offense. He was one of the best blocking receivers I've seen in college ball. He's also fast, strong, and athletic. However, at MU, Coffman, Rucker, and Maclin all seemed to be preferred receiving options (Alexander might have been there as well, but his injuries held him back a bit). Now, was that due to Franklin drawing the better defenders? In some cases, yes.