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Count Zarth
05-03-2008, 10:53 PM
Great column, jwhit...and you didn't even mention Larry Johnson.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/604262.html

When youíre a high-profile-millionaire anything, gun-toting does not enhance your safety. It jeopardizes it.Indianapolis Colts receiver Marvin Harrison learned that lesson last week. I hope members of the Kansas City Chiefs are paying attention.

Harrison has spent the past decade crafting a relatively impeccable reputation as a Hall of Fame receiver and private, community-minded role model. A decade of work just might be rendered pointless because the 35-year-old Harrison felt the need to carry a weapon.

Many professional athletes have made the same decision. According to a Boston Globe report in November of 2006, NFL and NBA players are most likely to legally carry concealed weapons, and ďhandgun ownership is much less prevalent in Major League Baseball and rare in the National Hockey League.Ē

Do I need to spell out for you which particular type of professional athlete feels most compelled to arm? Hereís a hint: Itís the same group that looks most like me and is most likely to die by gun violence.

Itís a vicious little cycle. Black athletes carry guns to protect themselves, but they fail to realize or choose to ignore that their decision to carry escalates the potential for trouble.

Iím not going to convict Marvin Harrison of any wrongdoing in the shooting incident that transpired Tuesday night outside the car detail shop he owns in Philadelphia. The police have not charged Harrison with a crime. They have only questioned him. His agent, NFL power-broker Tom Condon, somehow managed to get ESPN.com and The Indianapolis Star to focus Web headlines on the fact that Condonís investigation exonerates Harrison of any role in the shooting.

But what we do know, according to Philadelphia newspapers and radio stations, is that Harrison and the shooting victim (shot in the hand) were involved in some sort of verbal and perhaps physical confrontation inside Playmakers bar, which Harrison also owns. The victim walked out with Harrison following. Multiple shots were fired. A 2-year-old child was hit by a piece of flying glass. And a gun owned by and registered to Harrison was used in the shooting.

Pardon me while I play detective Lennie Briscoe for a moment: My working theory of the case is that Harrison wouldíve never followed the victim out of the bar if Harrison did not own a gun. Matter of fact, I doubt that Harrison wouldíve engaged in a serious verbal or physical battle had he not owned a gun.

Handguns are like alcohol. They give men ďcourageĒ they donít normally have.

You see, when you carry a gun, you tend to go places you have no business going. You pick fights you have no business picking.

Marvin Harrison is a millionaire athlete headed for the Hall of Fame. Itís my suspicion that the man inside the bar was neither a millionaire nor athlete nor future Hall of Famer. The man Harrison bickered with had a lot less to lose than Harrison. That is generally the first and best sign that youíve picked the wrong fight.

If there are any professional athletes still reading this, the same equation applies to picking a wife/husband or serious girlfriend/boyfriend. If all she brings to the table is a big butt, a smile and a modeling portfolio from onemodelplace.com, youíd be wise to never say ďI do.Ē

I digress. No one wants to hear marriage advice from the King of Dysfunction, a prime candidate for an episode of ďSpringer.Ē

My point is about athletes and guns. The rules are simple. If you think you are going some place at a time when you think you need a gun, just donít go. Itís really that easy. Iíve been most places in Kansas City and Indianapolis. Iíve been to all the alleged bad areas. My dad has owned a bar in the Ďhood my entire life. I visit often. I go at the right time. I donít go looking for trouble. And when trouble comes looking for me, I bounce.

Iím sure Marvin Harrison has a lot of friends and family members counting on him. They would be devastated emotionally and quite possibly financially if Marvin landed in jail.

All these millionaire athletes owe it to their families to unarm themselves in public settings. This is America. We all have the right to bear arms. But itís unwise to carry them when you already have a gigantic target on your back.

I donít say this to be flip. Itís a sad reality: Gas and food prices are skyrocketing. So is jealousy. The mixture is highly combustible. A pro athlete carrying a gun is begging for trouble to ignite.

KcMizzou
05-03-2008, 10:56 PM
That's just good, honest advice, right there.

Deberg_1990
05-03-2008, 10:59 PM
Yes Jason, because no White Athlete would ever carry a gun.

JWhit is starting to overdo this race BS

KcMizzou
05-03-2008, 11:01 PM
Yes Jason, because no White Athlete would ever carry a gun.

JWhit is starting to overdo this race BSI have to think they're generally less likely to... don't you?

I really think everything he said here is exactly right.

Basileus777
05-03-2008, 11:01 PM
I'm not a fan of Whitlock, but he nailed it here. Good article.

Deberg_1990
05-03-2008, 11:04 PM
I have to think they're generally less likely to... don't you?

I really think everything he said here is exactly right.

Perhaps, but he has no hard facts. Hes just making broad generalizations based on nightly news broadcasts....

Fruit Ninja
05-03-2008, 11:04 PM
Tell that to Shawn Taylor. Shit is going to happen. I find it funny Whitlock talks about him going to the "hood". He's really n ot famous. He's a writer, but he doesn't have the money or the jealousy toward him that athletes do. Sometimes, you just cant "bounce" as he says. Again, ask Shawn Taylor.

BigRock
05-03-2008, 11:06 PM
Perhaps, but he has no hard facts. Hes just making generalizations based on nightly news broadcasts....

According to a Boston Globe report in November of 2006, NFL and NBA players are most likely to legally carry concealed weapons, and “handgun ownership is much less prevalent in Major League Baseball and rare in the National Hockey League.”

Do I need to spell out for you which particular type of professional athlete feels most compelled to arm?

Maybe he does need to spell it out.

KcMizzou
05-03-2008, 11:07 PM
Maybe he does need to spell it out.
Thank you.

Deberg_1990
05-03-2008, 11:08 PM
Maybe he does need to spell it out.

Id like to read that report..

Chiefmanwillcatch
05-03-2008, 11:08 PM
Yes Jason, because no White Athlete would ever carry a gun.

JWhit is starting to overdo this race BS

Whites in sports are 'not'* emulating gangmembers.

Reread and put yourself in his shoes.

*edit

ClevelandBronco
05-03-2008, 11:10 PM
I'm sad when any young, talented man who has a chance to improve the world around him damages that chance by acting rashly and foolishly.

That kind of foolishness has included me as well, though my circle of impact could be charitably described as much smaller than Mr. Harrison's potential circle.

wutamess
05-03-2008, 11:20 PM
I'm not a fan of Whitlock, but he nailed it here. Good article.

Shouldn't there be a template for this statement somewhere?
I swear every fuggin time I see a Whtilock article... it never fails to see that statement. Sorta like the Pit Bulls are a nice bigger Pomeranians rant.

~Too fuggin predictable.

KcMizzou
05-03-2008, 11:27 PM
Shouldn't there be a template for this statement somewhere?
I swear every fuggin time I see a Whtilock article... it never fails to see that statement.Heh, yeah. "I usually hate Whitlock, but..."

He pisses me of now and then, but he does his job well. I can't deny that I make it a point to read everything he writes. I guess that makes me a fan.

DaneMcCloud
05-03-2008, 11:34 PM
Perhaps, but he has no hard facts. Hes just making broad generalizations based on nightly news broadcasts....

Really? Is he?

NAME the white athlete who's been involved in a gunfight.

I can't figure you out. Either you're smart and ask questions for a reaction or you're a complete and f*cking utter dumbass.

18,000 posts and I'm still clueless.

Mecca
05-03-2008, 11:36 PM
Really? Is he?

NAME the white athlete who's been involved in a gunfight.

I guess the real broad thing that anyone could go to is, the NHL which is basically all white, ever hear of a gun fight with any of those players?

We just hear about how fighting is bad or how some guy smacked some guy with his stick and that's about it.

RustShack
05-03-2008, 11:37 PM
Can I have a gun?

DaneMcCloud
05-03-2008, 11:37 PM
Shouldn't there be a template for this statement somewhere?
I swear every fuggin time I see a Whtilock article... it never fails to see that statement. Sorta like the Pit Bulls are a nice bigger Pomeranians rant.

~Too fuggin predictable.

With all due respect, I think he continues to write the same type of articles because most people in your community need to be constantly beat over the head with the truth.

DaneMcCloud
05-03-2008, 11:39 PM
I guess the real broad thing that anyone could go to is, the NHL which is basically all white, ever hear of a gun fight with any of those players?

We just hear about how fighting is bad or how some guy smacked some guy with his stick and that's about it.

Right. Same with baseball.

Whitlock mentioned both YET dumb f*ckers ignore it.

Why are so many people so f*cking dumb?

KcMizzou
05-03-2008, 11:41 PM
Right. Same with baseball.

Whitlock mentioned both YET dumb f*ckers ignore it.

Why are so many people so f*cking dumb?Heheh, settle down. Most of us aren't dumb ****ers.

DaneMcCloud
05-03-2008, 11:44 PM
Heheh, settle down. Most of us aren't dumb ****ers.

I would certainly agree that most educated people with computers aren't "dumb f*ckers".

But I can certainly understand the need for print articles to broach this type of subject. Anyone can afford a newspaper.

And it's getting closer to the day when anyone can afford a computer and internet access.

Ughhhhh :grr:

Mojo Rising
05-04-2008, 12:16 AM
With all due respect, I think he continues to write the same type of articles because most people in your community need to be constantly beat over the head with the truth.

So all people in KC are not able to process a reasonable thought? If you interchange race for region (KC Metro) are you not the bigot?

Whitlock found success in being anti-Carl. He then thrust himself into the national stage by being the race guy that can be brought on sports show of the day (see Bob Costas HBO last week.)

He adds nothing and has never come up with a notable idea or solution.

16 - 0 baby.

Are people so much smarter in Hollywood? Brittany Spears?

Get over yourself Hollywood. You posted shots of the blimp for the Oscars. You should be shooting pheasants instead.

J Diddy
05-04-2008, 12:16 AM
I would certainly agree that most educated people with computers aren't "dumb f*ckers".

But I can certainly understand the need for print articles to broach this type of subject. Anyone can afford a newspaper.

And it's getting closer to the day when anyone can afford a computer and internet access.

Ughhhhh :grr:

that day has long since passed

I stepped over a bum just this morning

he was checking his email

DaneMcCloud
05-04-2008, 12:19 AM
that day has long since passed

I stepped over a bum just this morning

he was checking his email


ROFLROFLROFL

wutamess
05-04-2008, 12:31 AM
With all due respect, I think he continues to write the same type of articles because most people in your community need to be constantly beat over the head with the truth.


Even though it's my peeps... it's not my community.
I live in the burbs.

DaneMcCloud
05-04-2008, 12:43 AM
Even though it's my peeps... it's not my community.
I live in the burbs.

I didn't mean "your" community (African-American).

I meant Kansas City.

But even "Kansas City" is so divided - Missouri side, Kansas side, JoCo, Wyandotte, Jackson County, Independence, Overland Park, Blue Springs, Raytown - the division never ends and no one wants to say "Kansas City".

Unless they're traveling out of town.

Then it's always, "Kansas City".

:evil:

Mojo Rising
05-04-2008, 12:43 AM
I would certainly agree that most educated people with computers aren't "dumb f*ckers".

But I can certainly understand the need for print articles to broach this type of subject. Anyone can afford a newspaper.

And it's getting closer to the day when anyone can afford a computer and internet access.

Ughhhhh :grr:


You called me a racist for making anti-Barry Bonds comments (I am a Dodger fan, not racist) and then you post this? Check yourself. Poor people can have opinions too. Anytime you rule out a group of people because of their grouping you are a bigot.

I don't like Bonds because he is a Giant. That is the limit to my thought process.

You have been on the board frequently with race type of issues. You should practice what you preach.

DaneMcCloud
05-04-2008, 12:45 AM
that day has long since passed

I stepped over a bum just this morning

he was checking his email

That would translate into an absolutely amazing song lyric

KcMizzou
05-04-2008, 12:48 AM
I didn't mean "your" community (African-American).

I meant Kansas City.

But even "Kansas City" is so divided - Missouri side, Kansas side, JoCo, Wyandotte, Jackson County, Independence, Overland Park, Blue Springs, Raytown - the division never ends and no one wants to say "Kansas City".

Unless they're traveling out of town.

Then it's always, "Kansas City".

:evil:Yeah, KC's a big old mess of a town... but I love it.

When it comes down to it, all KC people are on the same side. Just watch, when either the Chiefs or Royals start kicking ass, Beakers and MUrons will be buying each other beers at a record pace.

KcMizzou
05-04-2008, 12:51 AM
That would translate into an absolutely amazing song lyric
LMAO Yes it would.

DaneMcCloud
05-04-2008, 12:56 AM
So all people in KC are not able to process a reasonable thought? If you interchange race for region (KC Metro) are you not the bigot?

You called me a racist for making anti-Barry Bonds comments (I am a Dodger fan, not racist) and then you post this? Check yourself. Poor people can have opinions too. Anytime you rule out a group of people because of their grouping you are a bigot.

I don't like Bonds because he is a Giant. That is the limit to my thought process.

You have been on the board frequently with race type of issues. You should practice what you preach.

Great! The perfect example of the dumbf*ck I spoke about.

You clearly can't read or have poor reading comprehension.

First off, I said "most people", not all.

Secondly, wealth (or commeasurate wealth) has absolutely nothing to do with where a person reads their news - print, electronic or television.

And thirdly, are you a "bigot" because you're not a fan of the Giants? Or just a f*cking dumbass who doesn't know what the f*ck you're talking about?

I'll talk the latter for $2,000, Alex.

Are people so much smarter in Hollywood? Brittany Spears?

You got me.

All 20 million people in Los Angeles are just as wealthy and just as famous and just as demented as Britney Spears. :shake::shake::shake::shake:

Good one. :spock:

Rausch
05-04-2008, 01:07 AM
Yeah. Penises get athletes in trouble too.

DaneMcCloud
05-04-2008, 01:08 AM
Yeah. Penises get athletes in trouble too.

Isn't a penis really a gun?






:D

Mr. Flopnuts
05-04-2008, 01:10 AM
Isn't apenis really a gun?






:D

I'll take the Penis Mightier for $1000 Trebeck.

DaneMcCloud
05-04-2008, 01:11 AM
I'll take the Penis Mightier for $1000 Trebeck.


ROFLROFLROFLROFL



What a GREAT sketch

Mr. Flopnuts
05-04-2008, 01:12 AM
ROFLROFLROFLROFL



What a GREAT sketch

Easily one of my top 5 faves.

ClevelandBronco
05-04-2008, 01:12 AM
that day has long since passed

I stepped over a bum just this morning

he was checking his email



The day has long since passed.
I stepped over a bum just this morning
as he was checking his mental mail.

But night is here at last.
I walked over to see you tonight
as I was pondering why the other man had failed.

And I wondered while I wandered
why I was still myself,
and how is it my life did not collapse upon itself?

I think that it had something to do
with Richard Brautigan and Dr. Suess.

Count Zarth
05-04-2008, 01:19 AM
Yeah. Penises get athletes in trouble too.

THIS IS MY RIFLE THIS IS MY GUN

THIS IS FOR FIRING

THIS IS FOR FUN

UNLESS YOUR NAME IS GOCHIEFS

THEN YOU GET SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

J Diddy
05-04-2008, 02:41 AM
The day has long since passed.
I stepped over a bum just this morning
as he was checking his mental mail.

But night is here at last.
I walked over to see you tonight
as I was pondering why the other man had failed.

And I wondered while I wandered
why I was still myself,
and how is it my life did not collapse upon itself?

I think that it had something to do
with Richard Brautigan and Dr. Suess.

see this is why I don't write and post it on teh web

it gets butchered


Psst.

If this is a hit I'm totally suing you
:D

ClevelandBronco
05-04-2008, 02:48 AM
see this is why I don't write and post it on teh web

it gets butchered


Psst.

If this is a hit I'm totally suing you
:D

I took a liberty. It's all in the public domain.

blueballs
05-04-2008, 05:10 AM
You shouldn't shot a gun if your shooting eye
is looking 90 degrees the other direction
-lazy eyed dumb ass

Fruit Ninja
05-04-2008, 05:12 AM
You shouldn't shot a gun if your shooting eye
is looking 90 degrees the other direction
-lazy eyed dumb ass

You shouldnt post when your drunk.

blueballs
05-04-2008, 05:15 AM
You shouldnt post when your drunk.

you should chug some anti-freeze
with your lurking mode

Rausch
05-04-2008, 05:32 AM
I ****ing hate the offseason...

Fruit Ninja
05-04-2008, 05:41 AM
you should chug some anti-freeze
with your lurking mode

I would be glad too right after you take the first drink.

Skip Towne
05-04-2008, 09:37 AM
THIS IS MY RIFLE THIS IS MY GUN

THIS IS FOR FIRING

THIS IS FOR FUN

UNLESS YOUR NAME IS GOCHIEFS

THEN YOU GET SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

You need to hire a hooker.

StcChief
05-04-2008, 09:45 AM
Tell that to Shawn Taylor. Shit is going to happen. I find it funny Whitlock talks about him going to the "hood". He's really n ot famous. He's a writer, but he doesn't have the money or the jealousy toward him that athletes do. Sometimes, you just cant "bounce" as he says. Again, ask Shawn Taylor.
Shawn Taylor can't afford a real lawn service, or an alarm system for his house either :rolleyes:

Just good advise for once by JWit trying to be gangsta' only hurts the already rich and famous athlete. Where's his club bad boy bouncer for this activity?

milkman
05-04-2008, 09:48 AM
You need to hire a hooker.

Why?

You mean male escort?

CosmicPal
05-04-2008, 09:52 AM
There's a link included in this article that shows the athletes who carry guns.

http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2006/11/10/many_players_regard_firearm_as_a_necessity/

DJJasonp
05-04-2008, 12:14 PM
this made me laugh...but wondered if this will cause "big butted" women to file complaints with the star! :)

If there are any professional athletes still reading this, the same equation applies to picking a wife/husband or serious girlfriend/boyfriend. If all she brings to the table is a big butt, a smile and a modeling portfolio from onemodelplace.com, you’d be wise to never say “I do.”