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Mecca
05-05-2008, 10:41 PM
They are schooling the Spurs again....and that team will only get better when Julian Wright is ready to really contribute he has good passing skills to go with Paul and West....that team may end up scary good.

Skip Towne
05-05-2008, 10:46 PM
They are schooling the Spurs again....and that team will only get better when Julian Wright is ready to really contribute he has good passing skills to go with Paul and West....that team may end up scary good.

While at KU, we kept hearing about Julian's lack of ball handling skills. I have seen him make great behind the back bounce passes to guys who weren't really open.

Buehler445
05-05-2008, 10:54 PM
They are schooling the Spurs again....and that team will only get better when Julian Wright is ready to really contribute he has good passing skills to go with Paul and West....that team may end up scary good.

I'm not sold on Wright. I didn't think he was that good. In transition he was solid, because he can run well, but in the half court, he's not strong enough to play low and doesn't have the range to play outside.

That being said, I know less than nothing about the NBA. That game is soooo much different than college it is unfathomable.

Mecca
05-05-2008, 10:56 PM
I'm not sold on Wright. I didn't think he was that good. In transition he was solid, because he can run well, but in the half court, he's not strong enough to play low and doesn't have the range to play outside.

That being said, I know less than nothing about the NBA. That game is soooo much different than college it is unfathomable.

That's why he doesn't play much right now.....we'll see where he is in a year or 2...that's how most NBA rookies work, it's a huge transition and takes time.

Pitt Gorilla
05-05-2008, 10:56 PM
Although the officials seem to want the Spurs to win, Paul is just too much for the Spurs to handle. He can literally do whatever he wants to do.

Buehler445
05-05-2008, 11:00 PM
That's why he doesn't play much right now.....we'll see where he is in a year or 2...that's how most NBA rookies work, it's a huge transition and takes time.

So you're pretty high on him?

Mecca
05-05-2008, 11:02 PM
So you're pretty high on him?

Playing on that team with Chris Paul? Yea....With Paul and West and even guys like Peja he'll never be asked to be "the guy"

Buehler445
05-05-2008, 11:03 PM
Playing on that team with Chris Paul? Yea....With Paul and West and even guys like Peja he'll never be asked to be "the guy"

That's valid. I thought he should have stayed in and grown a muscle (maybe 2), but he went and made himself a butt load of money. So it was the right decision I guess, as long as he can develop.

the Talking Can
05-05-2008, 11:07 PM
Paul pretty much makes everyone look stupid

he did it to poor helpless Jason Kidd, and now he's doing it to the entire San Antonio Spurs....

Pitt Gorilla
05-05-2008, 11:10 PM
So you're pretty high on him?He hasn't looked very good tonight.

Mecca
05-05-2008, 11:12 PM
He hasn't looked very good tonight.

He basically only plays in garbage time so it's hard to judge him.

SNR
05-05-2008, 11:38 PM
Lakers/Hornets is going to be one amazing series.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-06-2008, 12:41 AM
The playoffs have been great so far, IMO.

The Cavs vs. Celtics should be fun as well.

KevB
05-06-2008, 12:45 AM
While at KU, we kept hearing about Julian's lack of ball handling skills. I have seen him make great behind the back bounce passes to guys who weren't really open.

I don't think people said he couldn't handle it. I think the problem was his propensity to dribble a bit too much, and turn it over a bit too often. He has nice playmaking skills with the ball in his hands.

He looked good tonight. Active on defense (which should be his calling card going forward) and even made a couple of threes. I've never been a big fan, but he has a unique game, and sometimes players with unique skills blossom in the NBA.

KevB
05-06-2008, 12:47 AM
I was really looking forward to Paul vs. Parker, but it's been a mismatch. Paul is really unbelievable. I'd take him over any point guard in the NBA right now, and it's not really much of a discussion.

Chiefs Pantalones
05-06-2008, 01:00 AM
I was really looking forward to Paul vs. Parker, but it's been a mismatch. Paul is really unbelievable. I'd take him over any point guard in the NBA right now, and it's not really much of a discussion.

True that.

He's everything you want in a point guard now.

CoMoChief
05-06-2008, 01:03 AM
I thought Paul was good in college, but I NEVER thought he would be this good in the NBA.

The guy can straight up play.

ChiefsCountry
05-06-2008, 01:20 AM
Just think for the Olympics - Paul, Kobe, LeBron. That is going to be sick.

DaKCMan AP
05-06-2008, 06:33 AM
I hope Derrick Rose can be the Heat's Chris Paul.

Friendo
05-06-2008, 06:39 AM
I thought Paul was good in college, but I NEVER thought he would be this good in the NBA.

The guy can straight up play.


same here, but whoda thunk Boozer would not only make it, but be a major player? that's why I laugh at all the "Hanbrough-haters".

the Talking Can
05-06-2008, 06:49 AM
same here, but whoda thunk Boozer would not only make it, but be a major player? that's why I laugh at all the "Hanbrough-haters".

handsbra isn't as tall or athletic as Boozer....

Wayne Simien is a much better comparison....Simien was more athletic and had a much, much better shot and arsenal of moves....and he played 3 minutes in the NBA....

and what does thread have to do with an over rated UNC player anyways?

Friendo
05-06-2008, 07:37 AM
handsbra isn't as tall or athletic as Boozer....

Wayne Simien is a much better comparison....Simien was more athletic and had a much, much better shot and arsenal of moves....and he played 3 minutes in the NBA....

and what does thread have to do with an over rated UNC player anyways?


it's a beautiful day and I felt like phishing-looky what I pulled out.

Molitoth
05-06-2008, 08:51 AM
Man I loved the game last night. I HATE the Spurs and the Hornets have been my fav NBA team since Bogues, Mourning, and Grandmama. Paul is a badass.

Molitoth
05-06-2008, 08:51 AM
and Im giddy.

Stryker
05-06-2008, 09:04 AM
I am not a fan of the NBA but ever since Rush was postponed due to the Hornets making the playoffs, I said if they are going to postpone a concert I have waited 3 months to see, they had better win. Since then, I have been hearing about them winning. I love it! Last night was the first game I have actually sat down and watched - now I can't wait till Thursday! :)

Good luck Hornets!

Pitt Gorilla
05-06-2008, 11:37 AM
I would love to see a team like the Hornets with a player like Dwight Howard. Lob, dunk, lob, dunk, lob, dunk...

StcChief
05-06-2008, 11:56 AM
I would love to see a team like the Hornets with a player like Dwight Howard. Lob, dunk, lob, dunk, lob, dunk...yeah...
so when is the basket going to be 14 Feet....to make it a game again.

Sure-Oz
05-06-2008, 12:07 PM
They need to get Duncan the ball more, so he can "bore" the hornets d with his exciting play

Pitt Gorilla
05-06-2008, 01:17 PM
yeah...
so when is the basket going to be 14 Feet....to make it a game again.That would be an incredibly stupid move. There is still a lack of skilled big men in the game and moving the basket up would only make the situation worse. The college game has turned into a 3-point shooting contest due to the lack of skilled big men; I wouldn't want the NBA to go down that path (any more than they already have) as well.

Enjoy the Howards, Duncans (as much as it is possible), O'Neals, and Mings while you can.

vailpass
05-06-2008, 01:26 PM
Paul is the truth. IMHO he is much more valuable than Kobe. With Kobe you have one elite player with Paul you have a whole team. Paul makes everyone on his team better.

BIG_DADDY
05-06-2008, 02:56 PM
Paul is the truth. IMHO he is much more valuable than Kobe. With Kobe you have one elite player with Paul you have a whole team. Paul makes everyone on his team better.

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vailpass
05-06-2008, 05:40 PM
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You don't agree that Paul is way above Kobe when it comes to making your teamates better?

Basileus777
05-06-2008, 06:28 PM
You can't honestly say that Kobe didn't make his teammates better. If you actually watched him play this year you couldn't say that with a straight face. All the attention he draws and the double teams open up things for everyone else. Did you see the Denver series? Did you see how Denver put their best post defender on Kobe and how many open looks Gasol and Odom got because of it? They both made their teammates better, they both elevated their clubs, it was a close call, but Kobe deserved to win just as much as Chris Paul.

Why does every player's percentages go up that play with Kobe? Fisher, Gasol, Odom. Smush averaged 11ppg on 44%/36% and Kwame averaged 8 and 6 on 55% and they cant even crack the rotation for the Heat/Clippers and Grizzlies. 80%+ of the players who have played with Kobe the past 4 years have had career highs in FG%.

Stats don't tell the whole story. The ball doesn't pass through Kobe's hands every possession like it does for CPaul.

CP3 is a great player and I wouldn't have complained at all if he had won. But I really don't see how anybody who's thinking objectively can believe that Kobe doesn't deserve the MVP this year. It really is mind boggling. 28, 6, 5 on 46% and 57 wins is enough for a player to get MVP just about any season

vailpass
05-06-2008, 06:34 PM
You can't honestly say that Kobe didn't make his teammates better. If you actually watched him play this year you couldn't say that with a straight face. All the attention he draws and the double teams open up things for everyone else. Did you see the Denver series? Did you see how Denver put their best post defender on Kobe and how many open looks Gasol and Odom got because of it? They both made their teammates better, they both elevated their clubs, it was a close call, but Kobe deserved to win just as much as Chris Paul.

Why does every player's percentages go up that play with Kobe? Fisher, Gasol, Odom. Smush averaged 11ppg on 44%/36% and Kwame averaged 8 and 6 on 55% and they cant even crack the rotation for the Heat/Clippers and Grizzlies. 80%+ of the players who have played with Kobe the past 4 years have had career highs in FG%.

Stats don't tell the whole story. The ball doesn't pass through Kobe's hands every possession like it does for CPaul.

CP3 is a great player and I wouldn't have complained at all if he had won. But I really don't see how anybody who's thinking objectively can believe that Kobe doesn't deserve the MVP this year. It really is mind boggling. 28, 6, 5 on 46% and 57 wins is enough for a player to get MVP just about any season

If you believe that Kobe was/is a team player there isn't much I can say.

Basileus777
05-06-2008, 06:34 PM
If you believe that Kobe was/is a team player there isn't much I can say.

Nice argument. I suppose you'll believe what you want to.