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Douche Baggins
05-22-2008, 06:34 PM
http://kan.scout.com/2/756874.html

It was day number four for the Chiefs in OTA sessions, but day one for the media. With KCís draft picks, free agents and un-drafted college players in the house, we saw first hand why the organization is so excited about the youth movement. In this report we look at the players who stood out.

QB Tyler Thigpen - If anyone thinks Thigpen is ready to challenge Brodie Croyle (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698850) for the starting job, think again. He really struggled in drills today and even with no pass rush, had a difficult time finding any rhythm whatsoever. Right now heís the third quarterback behind Damon Huard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698859).

QB Brodie Croyle - Sharp, crisp and looking like someone who believes heís a starting NFL quarterback. Today he had a swagger that was missing last year. I talked to Croyle after practice and he seems assured of his position on the team. He also told me to forget about the supposed ďsimplicityĒ of the teamís new offense. He has plenty of challenges ahead to get everything down, but it will fit his style.

KR Kevin Robinson (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3724380) - Forget the slow 40 time he ran at the NFL combine. He showed off his skills in special teams drills today by waiting until the right opening formed for him to make his move up the field. He did drop a ball, but will certainly be the guy returning punts this year. The jury is out on kickoffs.

RB Jamaal Charles (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723954) - You canít coach speed, and as Herm Edwards said after Thursdayís workout, ďHeís faster than we thought.Ē What shocked me about Charles was how well heís built. The Chiefs still want him to put on about five to six pounds, which might negate a portion of his speed, but heíll receive plenty of playing time this season.

OG Chris McDuffie - To me, the best guard on the field Thursday. He was blowing up everyone in his path. Right now heís second-team behind former Jets tackle Adrian Jones (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698862), who is trying to make the switch to guard. McDuffie has a mean streak and I absolutely loved the way he finished off his blocks. He drove players into the ground before looking for someone else to hit. He could end up a starter for this team now that Damion McIntosh (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698866) is playing right tackle.

DE Johnny Dingle (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3022638) - Another college free agent the Chiefs did their homework on, making Dingle a top priority after the draft. He was quick getting to the backfield Thursday and heís a strong man. I really liked his attitude. The down side is heís only 265 pounds at the moment. He might need to add eight to 10 pounds.

DT Derek Lokey (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3019054) - If you listened to our most recent Podcast with Chuck Cook, you know why he and the defensive coaches are high on Lokey. Heís already in the mix as one of the teamís four best interior defensive linemen. Ron Edwards (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698853) and Glenn Dorsey (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3722647) are the starters, so that means Lokey will line up next to Tank Tyler. After watching him today, I canít believe he wasnít drafted.

G Adrian Jones - Heís the starter at right guard at the moment, but he was stiff Thursday and he also didnít finish his blocks. Though heís listed at 296 pounds, he played heavy. He was not light on his feet and struggled against Edwards and Dorsey. Itís early, but Iím not sure if this experiment is going to pay off.

DT Glenn Dorsey - Simply put, he was unstoppable today. He ate up All-Pro guard Brian Waters (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698880). It was a mismatch. People donít realize how strong Dorsey is, but what makes him great is that his technique is already at the NFL level. There isnít any doubt he was the best college defender in the country this year, and my take early on is that heíll be the best rookie NFL defender this season. Dorsey thanked us for putting him on the cover of our latest magazine issue.

WR Jeff Webb (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698881) - Another young player who is battling for a starting spot on the offensive side of the ball. He looked better than free agent Devard Darling (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3263025). Webb appeared bigger and faster than last year and played with confidence. I loved the way he ran routes today.

TE John Paul (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=1833466) Foschi - I could not understand why the Chiefs signed another tight end (Foschi is from Georgia Tech, offensive coordinator Chan Gaileyís former school, so that might explain it) but Foschi can catch the ball. In fact, all of the tight ends outside of Michael Merritt (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3724953) (who I think may end up as a fullback), were great Thursday. Tony Gonzalez (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698854) was outstanding while Michael Allan (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698842) and Brad Cottam (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723957), the Chiefsí third-round pick, were all over the field catching the ball. Foschi stood out because I didnít think he would be in the mix. Look for him to find a spot on the practice field. Kansas Cityís offense will feature plenty of two tight end sets this year.

LB Steve Octavian - On special teams, he was outstanding - he can run and tackles wells. I think he has a shot to make this team. His torpedo mentality could be a huge boon for the special teams. He was the best defensive player at Nebraska last year and I would not be shocked if he is KCís starting middle linebacker in 2009 if Gunther Cunningham canít get Napoleon Harris (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698857) to play better.

DE Brian Johnston (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3557491) - Some NFL draft boards had him rated as a fifth-round guy, and after watching him today and talking with Cunningham, Johnston is a keeper and a steal in the seventh round. He looks like Jared Allen (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3716719), not just in his build, but his three-point stance is similar. How every NFL team passed on him in the late rounds is mind-boggling. He has the goods this year to start for the Chiefs.

L.A. Chieffan
05-22-2008, 06:37 PM
I can feel it already. People are going to be on Croyle's jock so bad this preseason

Coach
05-22-2008, 06:58 PM
It will be interesting to actually see Dorsey in person. Sounds like the reports so far is very positive about him.

FAX
05-22-2008, 07:00 PM
A lot of encouraging statements in that report. I wonder how many are truly accurate?

FAX

Coach
05-22-2008, 07:03 PM
A lot of encouraging statements in that report. I wonder how many are truly accurate?

FAX

Very true as well....

BigRock
05-22-2008, 07:04 PM
BONER

Buehler445
05-22-2008, 07:09 PM
A lot of encouraging statements in that report. I wonder how many are truly accurate?

FAX

Agreed. There were a lot last year too.

That being said, I'm excited about some of these guys. I hope to high heaven Croyle turns out to be servicable. The WR spot scares me though. If Webb is our man, we might be in some serious Barney. He made two impressive catches that I remember. The rest of the time, he looked out of place, or extremely coverable. I was hoping a rook would step up and impress. Still early though I guess. I just hope Webb has improved x1,000,000 or someone else steps up.

TRR
05-22-2008, 07:19 PM
It's a good update, but let's let them put pads on before someone starts annointing a player like Chris McDuffie into the next Will Shields.

Ultra Peanut
05-22-2008, 07:20 PM
heeheehee

Dingle...

ODB just said she has rocks in her tits and is going to anally rape her opponent with a whiskey flask.

L.A. Chieffan
05-22-2008, 07:22 PM
Where's Branden Albert anyways?

John_Wayne
05-22-2008, 07:25 PM
Agreed. There were a lot last year too.

That being said, I'm excited about some of these guys. I hope to high heaven Croyle turns out to be servicable. The WR spot scares me though. If Webb is our man, we might be in some serious Barney. He made two impressive catches that I remember. The rest of the time, he looked out of place, or extremely coverable. I was hoping a rook would step up and impress. Still early though I guess. I just hope Webb has improved x1,000,000 or someone else steps up.If the Chiefs run 2 and 3 TE sets, will that somewhat cover their weakness at WR? Maybe they'll keep only 4 WR and 4 TE, rather than the typical 5 WR and 3 TE?

Buehler445
05-22-2008, 07:49 PM
If the Chiefs run 2 and 3 TE sets, will that somewhat cover their weakness at WR? Maybe they'll keep only 4 WR and 4 TE, rather than the typical 5 WR and 3 TE?

If Webb is the man, I hope they carry more TEs because someone needs to catch the ball.

FAX
05-22-2008, 08:10 PM
If Webb is the man, I hope they carry more TEs because someone needs to catch the ball.

Given the intimations from Hermoine that we're going to run the rock a lot, the multiple TE formations make sense. When you think about it, we have a lot of options in those formations. I'm not sure how well that plays into Croyle's strengths, though.

FAX

Skip Towne
05-22-2008, 08:15 PM
Given the intimations from Hermoine that we're going to run the rock a lot, the multiple TE formations make sense. When you think about it, we have a lot of options in those formations. I'm not sure how well that plays into Croyle's strengths, though.

FAX

I say we run the A gap.

ChiefRon
05-22-2008, 08:28 PM
This article exemplifies why I'm optimistic (or is it hopeful?) about the direction of our team: youth and potential. These young, hungry guys will bring some energy. If several of them actually develop, we could finally have a team to cheer for in the playoffs sooner than later.

Buehler445
05-22-2008, 08:45 PM
I certainly hope so Ron. But I'm not banking on this year.

Coach
05-22-2008, 08:46 PM
But yes, I am also interested in how Johnston will do as well. I strongly still feel that he is the steal of this draft.....

Buehler445
05-22-2008, 09:01 PM
But yes, I am also interested in how Johnston will do as well. I strongly still feel that he is the steal of this draft.....

Especially since we are paper thin at DE.

I still think it is a horrible mistake to move Boone to DE. For once we get a solid DT and they move him to the outside! ****! Throw a kid out there and see if he is worth a goddamn and keep our solid DTs.

Brock
05-22-2008, 09:04 PM
sounds like homer bullcrap.

Deberg_1990
05-22-2008, 09:14 PM
I love how everyones a future Hall of Famer in the offseason. ROFL

Dick Bull
05-22-2008, 09:16 PM
Especially since we are paper thin at DE.

I still think it is a horrible mistake to move Boone to DE. For once we get a solid DT and they move him to the outside! ****! Throw a kid out there and see if he is worth a goddamn and keep our solid DTs.


I agree
Johnston, boone, dorsey, hali would make for an interesting starting d line

Chief Chief
05-22-2008, 09:32 PM
Given the intimations from Hermoine that we're going to run the rock a lot, the multiple TE formations make sense. When you think about it, we have a lot of options in those formations. I'm not sure how well that plays into Croyle's strengths, though.

FAX

Thinking like Herm (the great conservative of offense), I imagine we'll run the ball even if the D has 8 or 9 in the box until our fans start booing. Then, go to play-action fake on (dare I say it?) first down (!!) to suck in the LBs and safeties and toss a fast one to a TE doing a quick up and out move or, if BC's got time, heave it way downfield in one-on-one coverage to one of our big guys who can shake off a single tackler.

Okay, relax...I was just kidding. It will happen on third down.

Mecca
05-22-2008, 09:38 PM
Ugh, Ron Edwards, I wish they'd just cut him.

ChiTown
05-22-2008, 09:38 PM
LMAO

at that write up. I can't believe you nimrods actually dupe fans into paying for that "critical analysis" geeezusfrickenkrist.LMAO

Douche Baggins
05-22-2008, 09:38 PM
Ugh, Ron Edwards, I wish they'd just cut him.

No shit. I rolled my eyes upon reading that. He's not a starter.

Rain Man
05-22-2008, 09:39 PM
Especially since we are paper thin at DE.

I still think it is a horrible mistake to move Boone to DE. For once we get a solid DT and they move him to the outside! ****! Throw a kid out there and see if he is worth a goddamn and keep our solid DTs.

I'm willing to be open-minded (oh, and fire Carl and Herm), but how many 300-lb. defensive ends have ever played in the NFL? I'm genuinely curious.

Luis Castillo is one in a 3-4 defense, though of course his weight is higher because he's a criminal steroids user. Anyone else, ever?

Tribal Warfare
05-22-2008, 09:40 PM
Nothing on Brandon Albert?

Mecca
05-22-2008, 09:40 PM
The Chiefs keep saying youth, start Dorsey and Tyler...if they think McBride has to play end this year due to the lack of players there fine, but leave Boone there as your 3rd DT..if someone steps up then move McBride back inside.

Either way Ron Edwards shouldn't even be on this team let alone starting.

Douche Baggins
05-22-2008, 09:40 PM
I'm willing to be open-minded (oh, and fire Carl and Herm), but how many 300-lb. defensive ends have ever played in the NFL? I'm genuinely curious.

Luis Castillo is one in a 3-4 defense, though of course his weight is higher because he's a criminal steroids user. Anyone else, ever?

There are several 300-lb DEs in the 3-4 around the league if I'm not mistaken.

Last year the Packers used Cullen Jenkins at RE quite a bit, he's about 300.

Mecca
05-22-2008, 09:41 PM
I'm willing to be open-minded (oh, and fire Carl and Herm), but how many 300-lb. defensive ends have ever played in the NFL? I'm genuinely curious.

Luis Castillo is one in a 3-4 defense, though of course his weight is higher because he's a criminal steroids user. Anyone else, ever?

A 300lb DE in a cover 2 is a ridiculously stupid idea, and for whoever wrote that I got news, DE's in a cover 2 are roughly 260-270 so I don't get this whole "thisg guy needs to gain weight" when he's 265.

Rain Man
05-22-2008, 09:45 PM
Either way Ron Edwards shouldn't even be on this team let alone starting.

I respectfully disagree. Edwards isn't going to be the strength of a defense, but I don't think he's a slug. In the real world of the NFL, you're going to have some rotation guys who aren't superstars.

Mecca
05-22-2008, 10:05 PM
I respectfully disagree. Edwards isn't going to be the strength of a defense, but I don't think he's a slug. In the real world of the NFL, you're going to have some rotation guys who aren't superstars.

On a competing team sure...but him starting on this one is just going to stung young player growth.

As many young DT's as the Chiefs have right now Ron Edwards is useless to keep.

BIG K
05-22-2008, 10:13 PM
Nothing on Brandon Albert?

I too am dissapointed that our 'franchise' left tackle was not even mentioned, good or bad, in this article...

el borracho
05-22-2008, 10:17 PM
This article is like an ice cream sundae- you know it has no real value but you eat it anyway cause it tastes good at the time. Actually, this is the first article that hasn't pissed me off in a while so :toast: here's to you, Mr. 31 flavors of the offseason!

Go Chiefs!

aturnis
05-22-2008, 10:17 PM
I too am dissapointed that our 'franchise' left tackle was not even mentioned, good or bad, in this article...

He needs guys to write about next time. Will Franklin, Brandon Albert, Barry Richardson and others.

Buehler445
05-22-2008, 10:21 PM
I agree
Johnston, boone, dorsey, hali would make for an interesting starting d line

Agreed. At least we could stop the run up the middle. The worry would be to the outside. But IMO, you don't move a solid DT to a DE where he has never played. That screams colosal stupidity.

Buehler445
05-22-2008, 10:23 PM
On a competing team sure...but him starting on this one is just going to stung young player growth.

As many young DT's as the Chiefs have right now Ron Edwards is useless to keep.

Couldn't agree more. If the kids suck, so what, we aren't winning anything. If they blow, find a replacement. We know Edwards is not good.

BIG K
05-22-2008, 10:26 PM
He needs guys to write about next time. Will Franklin, Brandon Albert, Barry Richardson and others.

Perhaps...Hopefully you are correct. I was just thinking that it might be kind of normal for a write up on a player that was selected in the first round, AND one that the Chief's moved up to grab...Much like Dorsey is the given starter at DT, Albert has been annointed as the LT of the now and future....If the writer can talk about undrafted rookies in his first article, why not mention Albert?

aturnis
05-22-2008, 10:36 PM
I dunno, I assume being he wrote about what? 13 players? A few veterans, some new veterans, a few draft picks and a handful of udfa's. Another article will probably have the same. Maybe Bowe, Albert, Franklin, Flowers, Richardson, Niswanger and some other interesting spots on the field accompanied by some fan favorites like Swan for exciting value speculation.

el borracho
05-22-2008, 10:51 PM
He'll have years to write about Albert. He's only got a few months to write about some of these guys.

wazu
05-22-2008, 10:52 PM
Great report, GoChiefs. Keep up the good work.

Rausch
05-22-2008, 11:21 PM
Couldn't agree more. If the kids suck, so what, we aren't winning anything. If they blow, find a replacement.

I don't understand why we can't win this year.

We had a helluva good draft and if even 2 of the UDRFA's can contribute we'll have gotten younger and better.

The old guys we had flat out sucked, save Kennison, and he was hurt all year anyway. Talent = wins.

If we add talent why can't we add to the W's?...

bowener
05-22-2008, 11:29 PM
RB Jamaal Charles - You canít coach speed, and as Herm Edwards said after Thursdayís workout, ďHeís faster than we thought.Ē What shocked me about Charles was how well heís built. The Chiefs still want him to put on about five to six pounds, which might negate a portion of his speed, but heíll receive plenty of playing time this season.


DT Glenn Dorsey - Simply put, he was unstoppable today. He ate up All-Pro guard Brian Waters. It was a mismatch. People donít realize how strong Dorsey is, but what makes him great is that his technique is already at the NFL level. There isnít any doubt he was the best college defender in the country this year, and my take early on is that heíll be the best rookie NFL defender this season. Dorsey thanked us for putting him on the cover of our latest magazine issue.

DE Brian Johnston - Some NFL draft boards had him rated as a fifth-round guy, and after watching him today and talking with Cunningham, Johnston is a keeper and a steal in the seventh round. He looks like Jared Allen, not just in his build, but his three-point stance is similar. How every NFL team passed on him in the late rounds is mind-boggling. He has the goods this year to start for the Chiefs.


I have an erection.

wazu
05-22-2008, 11:38 PM
I don't understand why we can't win this year.

We had a helluva good draft and if even 2 of the UDRFA's can contribute we'll have gotten younger and better.

The old guys we had flat out sucked, save Kennison, and he was hurt all year anyway. Talent = wins.

If we add talent why can't we add to the W's?...

We have added some talent, but we've also lost our best player. Not saying we can't add a few W's. Maybe 6-10 or so, or if Croyle becomes the full-on franchise savior and our O-line gels early, maybe 8-8. But "winning"? Not this year.

cdcox
05-22-2008, 11:39 PM
DE Brian Johnston (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3557491) - Some NFL draft boards had him rated as a fifth-round guy, and after watching him today and talking with Cunningham, Johnston is a keeper and a steal in the seventh round. He looks like Jared Allen (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3716719), not just in his build, but his three-point stance is similar. How every NFL team passed on him in the late rounds is mind-boggling. He has the goods this year to start for the Chiefs.

I don't care what any one says, Herm is a damn fine coach. Damn fine.

wazu
05-22-2008, 11:42 PM
I don't care what any one says, Herm is a damn fine coach. Damn fine.

:LOL:

Missed that.

Direckshun
05-23-2008, 12:12 AM
Thigpen -- This isn't really news. Thigpen's buzz was entirely built around Shefter, who needed a story about young sleeper QBs and Thiggy fit.

Croyle -- I'll still have to see it to believe it. Warpaint did nothing but blow Brodie last offseason and it went nowhere. They've lost credibility in that regard.

K-Rob -- Great to hear, I hope he can return punts well. I'd like Savage to return kickoffs, though.

Charles -- Absolutely not surprising. I really hope he takes off.

McDuffie -- I called this forever ago, I was the first one on this board to say he'd make the team. Out of all the UDFAs, I give him the #1 shot at making this team, and it wouldn't surprise me if he replaced the completely out-of-place Jones at RG.

Dingle -- Another guy I called a long time ago. Hell I drafted him in our mock draft. I don't think he needs to add that much weight, but if Herm can keep this guy motivated, we probably have a reserve DE.

Lokey -- VERY surprising. Lokey is as strong as any of our DTs, he's just much smaller than you'd like for a guy who's basically a 2-tech. I hope he does well.

Jones -- Sadly, a few of us have seen this coming. Jones will not work out well at RG.

Dorsey -- Excellent news, completely unsurprising. Great to hear. Sad there wasn't any news about Albert, though.

Webb -- Again, Warpaint's lost cred here. I'll have to see it with my own eyes.

Foschi -- Total shocker, great news. I doubt he makes the team still. Surprising idea that we're thinking of converting yet another TE to FB with Merritt... Not a great pick, IMO.

Octavian -- He's got a shot on this team, and I wish him well. He's an incredible athlete with an injury history, which makes him perfect for special teams. The Chiefs have put a lot of effort into finding guys who'd work out on special teams, I'd love to see the results.

Johnston -- I think everybody's building this kid up too much. It makes me nervous, reminds me of how we talked about Tank last year.

Douche Baggins
05-23-2008, 05:11 AM
Warpaint did nothing but blow Brodie last offseason and it went nowhere. They've lost credibility in that regard.


Croyle had a pretty good training camp last year. He deserved praised. We didn't blow him in preseason.

blueballs
05-23-2008, 06:09 AM
seeding
if you need more
you know were to send the check

Coogs
05-23-2008, 06:09 AM
Great report, GoChiefs. Keep up the good work.

Click on the link... Athan is the one who wrote this report.

cookster50
05-23-2008, 06:20 AM
I'm not sure how well that plays into Croyle's strengths, though.


Croyle has strengths? Whats that, the ability to lose???

blueballs
05-23-2008, 06:25 AM
not being HUTARD

beach tribe
05-23-2008, 06:28 AM
Croyle has strengths? Whats that, the ability to lose???

Wow. Narrowmindedness.

Sully
05-23-2008, 06:39 AM
Octavien

...and every defensive end has a similar 3-point stance, especially if they are built the same.

talastan
05-23-2008, 06:42 AM
Croyle has strengths? Whats that, the ability to lose???

The dumb@ssedness of some people continue to amaze me. Croyle wasn't the only man on the field those last six games. As I recall our top-rated defense couldn't stop the run, our O-line was the the equivalent of Jordan Black times 3, and no LJ puts a big target on Brodie, Bowe, and Gonzalez. So get off the Brodie hate for a few seconds to think your comments through. I think Brodie has what it takes to lead this team, do I KNOW it for sure, NO. But I'm really looking forward to seeing him prove himself this year. If he doesn't then we look for a top QB next year.

Buehler445
05-23-2008, 06:43 AM
I don't understand why we can't win this year.

We had a helluva good draft and if even 2 of the UDRFA's can contribute we'll have gotten younger and better.

The old guys we had flat out sucked, save Kennison, and he was hurt all year anyway. Talent = wins.

If we add talent why can't we add to the W's?...

We have added some talent, but we've also lost our best player. Not saying we can't add a few W's. Maybe 6-10 or so, or if Croyle becomes the full-on franchise savior and our O-line gels early, maybe 8-8. But "winning"? Not this year.

Exactly. Our Super Bowl hopes will not be dashed because we didn't play Ron Edwards.

cookster50
05-23-2008, 06:59 AM
Wow, if I disagree with your OPINION, I'm an idiot. Nice. Why are posters leaving the planet again?

beach tribe
05-23-2008, 07:04 AM
Wow, if I disagree with your OPINION, I'm an idiot. Nice. Why are posters leaving the planet again?

Because they are sick of all the people who find a way to bash the coaches, and players in every thread.

FAX
05-23-2008, 07:09 AM
Wow, if I disagree with your OPINION, I'm an idiot. Nice.

Why are posters leaving the planet again?

It's mainly due to too many idiots who disagree with my opinion.

Actually, I'm sure you'll agree that Croyle has strengths, Mr. cookster50. For example, he can heave a football one million yards in the air and he knows how to pick women. Unfortunately, all that means little in the NFL. You're right. Ultimately, it's all about wins and losses.

I think he has the tools, as I've said many times before on this board. Whether or not the team and the fans give him time to grow into the job (as all other good NFL quarterbacks have both required and been afforded), is yet to be seen.

FAX

dirk digler
05-23-2008, 07:22 AM
A lot of encouraging statements in that report. I wonder how many are truly accurate?

FAX

That was what I was thinking as well. The article made it sound like we have 10 All-pro's on this team

Hog Farmer
05-23-2008, 07:38 AM
Derek Lokey-- In the mix as one of the starting 4 DL. Thats a pleasant suprise.

Douche Baggins
05-23-2008, 07:47 AM
Derek Lokey-- In the mix as one of the starting 4 DL. Thats a pleasant suprise.

Not starting. Four best DTs.

Hawk
05-23-2008, 07:48 AM
As an avid Longhorn fan who watches and/or attends pretty much all of their games, the Chiefs did a nice job getting steals on Jamaal Charles and Derek Lokey.

Jamaal: It's a little funny to hear Herm say that Jamaal is faster than they thought. They guy did run a 10.18 100M at the NCAA track championships in college. That's blazing fast, he has elite speed. Maybe its because he only ran a 4.38 at the combine. Most Longhorn fans figured he'd bust 4.3 and be in the high 4.2's. Either way, he was a steal in the 3rd and will add some flash to the KC offense.

Derek Lokey: I was stunned when Lokey went undrafted. I know he's a bit undersized for his position, but he is strong as hell like a powerlifter and was one of the strongest guys on the Texas team. He's also a quality guy who works his butt off and he'll provide some nice depth on the d-line for you guys at a very low price. At Texas, they also made Lokey the FB on short yardage and goalline packages, and he even caught a TD pass in his last game (the Holiday Bowl against Az St.). I wonder if the Chiefs will give him a look in that role. He may be undersized for a defensive tackle, but he's a LOAD as a FB.

FAX
05-23-2008, 07:51 AM
Interesting. Thanks very much for posting, Mr. Hawk.

And, that speed/strength stuff is all well and good, but, how are their stances?

FAX

unothadeal
05-23-2008, 07:54 AM
Dorsey thanked us for putting him on the cover of our latest magazine issue.

Good to know.

tmax63
05-23-2008, 07:57 AM
I am surprised to not see any mention of Albert but then again if there was an update on all the rookies on this team I'm not sure that I'd have enough time to read it before the next update came out. Good to see some of the UDFA's and so on looking good. That's (IMHO) where the Chiefs can build a little depth and hoprfully improve the bottom half of the roster. Last year the bottom 40 players on the roster sucked. Hopefully only the bottom 20 players suck that bad this year.

COchief
05-23-2008, 09:47 AM
Thanks for the feedback on camp, I don't understand why the Star can't seem to do this.

Direckshun
05-23-2008, 12:17 PM
Derek Lokey: I was stunned when Lokey went undrafted. I know he's a bit undersized for his position, but he is strong as hell like a powerlifter and was one of the strongest guys on the Texas team. He's also a quality guy who works his butt off and he'll provide some nice depth on the d-line for you guys at a very low price. At Texas, they also made Lokey the FB on short yardage and goalline packages, and he even caught a TD pass in his last game (the Holiday Bowl against Az St.). I wonder if the Chiefs will give him a look in that role. He may be undersized for a defensive tackle, but he's a LOAD as a FB.
I wasn't stunned that Lokey went undrafted. He's the kind of guy who can make it in this league but doesn't get drafted because he's a classic tweener.

Lokey as the body of a 3-tech. Mainly, he's 290. But he doesn't have a 3-tech's skillset: he's not fast, he's not a pass rusher, he's not particularly shifty. Instead, he plays like a 2-tech. He gets push and clogs up running lanes.

Well in the NFL, you can't have the body of a 3 and expect to survive as a 2. Lokey's incredibly strong, so he might be able to simply fight himself out of it, but you typically need more weight to succeed in the NFL typically, simply because of the caliber of competition.

Wish him luck, though. Glad to see he's doing well.

sedated
05-23-2008, 12:45 PM
Because they are sick of all the people who find a way to bash the coaches, and players in every thread.

its not extremely hard to "find a way to bash the coaches and players" after last season.

Hawk
05-23-2008, 02:44 PM
I wasn't stunned that Lokey went undrafted. He's the kind of guy who can make it in this league but doesn't get drafted because he's a classic tweener.

Lokey as the body of a 3-tech. Mainly, he's 290. But he doesn't have a 3-tech's skillset: he's not fast, he's not a pass rusher, he's not particularly shifty. Instead, he plays like a 2-tech. He gets push and clogs up running lanes.

Well in the NFL, you can't have the body of a 3 and expect to survive as a 2. Lokey's incredibly strong, so he might be able to simply fight himself out of it, but you typically need more weight to succeed in the NFL typically, simply because of the caliber of competition.

Wish him luck, though. Glad to see he's doing well.

I hear you, but the guy threw up 38 reps on the bench press at the Texas Pro Day which was more than any player at the NFL combine this year. He is just really strong, and 290 is not that small when your as strong as he is. I felt sure that someone would at least spend a 6th or 7th rounder on him at that point. Plus he had been really productive for Texas on the field where it counts.

Oh well, I think he'll do well for KC and I love KC having 3 players from Texas for me to root for now with DJ, Charles, and Lokey.