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Cntrygal
05-26-2008, 05:26 PM
You play ball like a girl.

That used to be an insult. In Beaverton, Oregon, it's becoming more like a fantasy.

Jaime Nared, a 12-year-old girl who stands 6-foot-1, has been told she can no longer play on the boys team of which she has been a member since the second grade, according to a report on the Web site of The Oregonian. Curiously, the timing of her ban came in the wake of a 30-point effort against an all-boys team.

more... (http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/8178466?GT1=39002)

What grade is a 12 year old in? She's been playing in the league since the second grade. If there was a rule against a girl playing in the league - it should have been brought up then. Maybe some of the parents should teach their sons how to play ball instead of being a whiny biatch.

As a side note.... 6'1" at 12 years old... geesh.

stumppy
05-26-2008, 05:31 PM
Future cock blocker.

CoMoChief
05-26-2008, 05:57 PM
You play ball like a girl.

That used to be an insult. In Beaverton, Oregon, it's becoming more like a fantasy.

Jaime Nared, a 12-year-old girl who stands 6-foot-1, has been told she can no longer play on the boys team of which she has been a member since the second grade, according to a report on the Web site of The Oregonian. Curiously, the timing of her ban came in the wake of a 30-point effort against an all-boys team.

more... (http://http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/8178466?GT1=39002)

What grade is a 12 year old in? She's been playing in the league since the second grade. If there was a rule against a girl playing in the league - it should have been brought up then. Maybe some of the parents should teach their sons how to play ball instead of being a whiny biatch.

As a side note.... 6'1" at 12 years old... geesh.

We had a girl when I was in middle school 6th through 8th grade who stood about 6'3 and was 300+ pounds. She could have been able to play Oline on our football team.

Smed1065
05-26-2008, 06:01 PM
more... (http://http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/8178466?GT1=39002)



More seems not to work?

I found it: http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/8178466/Girl,-12,-told-she-can't-play-ball-with-boys

kstater
05-26-2008, 06:03 PM
More seems not to work?

extra http//

remove the second one.

Rausch
05-26-2008, 06:05 PM
We're talking bball here, not football or wrestling.

Let her play...

Mr. Plow
05-26-2008, 06:06 PM
My oldest son is 9 years old. He's going to be in 4th grade. 12 would be, what, 6-7 grade.

The only thing I'll say is the girl is probably a good 8+ inches taller than the next tallest person in her class.

Rudy lost the toss
05-26-2008, 06:12 PM
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Valiant
05-26-2008, 06:16 PM
Ewe tough subject..

Part of me thinks, let the girl play she has been on the team since 2nd grade.. And the other teams should have known about her for a long team since it is the same league for years..

The only IFFY part comes in IF the other players are treating her differently.. (IE not playing her as tough since she is a girl).. The coaches just need to teach the boys to treat her equally and shut her down..

But if the girl is actually good and the other teams are just trying to find a way to win like this, then that is total BS and they should all be publicly shammed..

OnTheWarpath58
05-26-2008, 06:21 PM
Did she EAT one of the boys?

Dear God, that girl is a monster.

Nevertheless, let her play.

Mr. Flopnuts
05-26-2008, 07:15 PM
Future cock blocker.

LMAO @ broadzilla

Chiefaholic
05-26-2008, 07:22 PM
When I was in high school it was unheard of for girls in boys sports. Now they have two girls on the wrestling team. As a former HS wrestler and a father of two teenage daughters, there's no way in hell I'de allow my kids to play the sport.

A line has to be drawn in the sand somewhere, and girls basketball is an option schools give. Let her dominate the female side of the sport and get a free ride through college to boot.

Smed1065
05-26-2008, 07:24 PM
The only IFFY part comes in IF the other players are treating her differently.. (IE not playing her as tough since she is a girl).. The coaches just need to teach the boys to treat her equally and shut her down..


So most boys do not pick on girls and treat them as tough or even worse when growing up? I did, maybe even worse.

I have been wrong before but I expect the parents have more to do with this BS than the boys.

It has been happening since the 2nd grade and now they decide she is not a player that they treat the same way?

At 12 years old?

I call BS, maybe they need to make them all not losers and not keep score.

:Peace:ROFL

redbrian
05-26-2008, 07:39 PM
""They said the problem was the boys were playing differently against her because she was a girl," Franzer said, according to the paper. "They'd been taught to not push a girl, so they weren't fouling her hard, and the focus had shifted from playing basketball to noticing a girl was on the floor with them.""

Yea they are playing different, they are scared shitless of her.......

I have no problem with a girl playing basketball with the boys.......about the only sport I have a problem with a girl competing with the boys, is wrestling....as an ex high school wrestler I know first hand, it can get a little intamite on the matt......plus I know of a couple of moves wich would not be as effective on a girl as it is on a boy due to the lack of chestnuts......

Basileus777
05-26-2008, 07:50 PM
I don't think there is any reason she shouldn't be able to compete with boys at that age. When she goes to highschool however, there is no way she belongs on a men's team.

stlchiefs
05-26-2008, 07:50 PM
""They said the problem was the boys were playing differently against her because she was a girl," Franzer said, according to the paper. "They'd been taught to not push a girl, so they weren't fouling her hard, and the focus had shifted from playing basketball to noticing a girl was on the floor with them.""

Yea they are playing different, they are scared shitless of her.......

I have no problem with a girl playing basketball with the boys.......about the only sport I have a problem with a girl competing with the boys, is wrestling....as an ex high school wrestler I know first hand, it can get a little intamite on the matt......plus I know of a couple of moves wich would not be as effective on a girl as it is on a boy due to the lack of chestnuts......

You could still check her oil. :thumb:

redbrian
05-26-2008, 07:58 PM
You could still check her oil. :thumb:

It also gives a whole new meaning to the Saturday Night Ride.......and the arm bar with figure four on the head.......well lets not even go there.....

Tribal Warfare
05-26-2008, 09:07 PM
When she goes to highschool however, there is no way she belongs on a men's team.



If she can keep up, why not?

Braincase
05-26-2008, 09:24 PM
If they don't have a comparable girls program, then they need to either start one or let her play up. I personally think that that parents of the boys team that complained are raising little beotches.

Phobia
05-26-2008, 09:28 PM
Maybe she's a Puerto Rican 12 year old girl who is actually 23?

DT58HOF
05-26-2008, 09:37 PM
My oldest son is 9 years old. He's going to be in 4th grade. 12 would be, what, 6-7 grade.

The only thing I'll say is the girl is probably a good 8+ inches taller than the next tallest person in her class.

what???? where do you live? they must make them small there!!
my daughter is 12 in the 7th grade here in maryland and there is 9 boys in her grade taller and atleast 4 girls that are taller.
of course the high school they will go to has been to the state tournament final four like 8 times in 10 years,lol

Pablo
05-26-2008, 11:01 PM
She's playing against 12 year old boys...they're prolly popping wood every time she brushes up next to them.

"Coach, I gotta come out, it hurts down there again."

"Dammit, that's like the 4th time, sit down and put some ice on it again."

Unfair advantage indeed.

Coach
05-27-2008, 12:00 AM
We'll see how they'll react when they're being sued for a violation of Title IX.

Smed1065
05-27-2008, 12:25 AM
If she can keep up, why not?

Because they could not?

Smed1065
05-27-2008, 12:26 AM
what???? where do you live? they must make them small there!!
my daughter is 12 in the 7th grade here in maryland and there is 9 boys in her grade taller and atleast 4 girls that are taller.
of course the high school they will go to has been to the state tournament final four like 8 times in 10 years,lol

Did you not read the 6'1 part?

LOL

DT58HOF
05-27-2008, 03:04 AM
Did you not read the 6'1 part?

LOL

like i said, it's not uncommon around here. for a kid in the 8th grade especially a girl is not unlikely, girls usually stop get any taller when they are around that age. If this girl is really 6'1 she should be smaller than atleast 5 of the boys on the team. If ur not 5'11" or taller you would be cut in this area from boys high school basketball.

Valiant
05-27-2008, 03:24 AM
We'll see how they'll react when they're being sued for a violation of Title IX.

I guess if there is NO girls teams in the area then yes, maybe.. And is this for the school or league ball?? League ball does not follow highschool and college rules for equality..

Valiant
05-27-2008, 03:26 AM
So most boys do not pick on girls and treat them as tough or even worse when growing up? I did, maybe even worse.

I have been wrong before but I expect the parents have more to do with this BS than the boys.

It has been happening since the 2nd grade and now they decide she is not a player that they treat the same way?

At 12 years old?

I call BS, maybe they need to make them all not losers and not keep score.

:Peace:ROFL

From the way I see my nieces and nephews act, no.. Kids are a lot less physical with girls in that way.. Now verbally is another story..

And I agree with the parents having more to do with it.. They are the ones that are teaching the values to em..

Valiant
05-27-2008, 03:27 AM
like i said, it's not uncommon around here. for a kid in the 8th grade especially a girl is not unlikely, girls usually stop get any taller when they are around that age. If this girl is really 6'1 she should be smaller than atleast 5 of the boys on the team. If ur not 5'11" or taller you would be cut in this area from boys high school basketball.

Because guards need to be tall??

Mr. Plow
05-27-2008, 08:36 AM
what???? where do you live? they must make them small there!!
my daughter is 12 in the 7th grade here in maryland and there is 9 boys in her grade taller and atleast 4 girls that are taller.
of course the high school they will go to has been to the state tournament final four like 8 times in 10 years,lol

Nowadays, you are probably right. But when I went into the 7th grade, I was maybe 5'4"/5'"5. But, when I came back for 8th grade, I was 6'0" - and the tallest person in my class. So, maybe I'm just picturing the kids I went to school with.

Lzen
05-27-2008, 08:38 AM
like i said, it's not uncommon around here. for a kid in the 8th grade especially a girl is not unlikely, girls usually stop get any taller when they are around that age. If this girl is really 6'1 she should be smaller than atleast 5 of the boys on the team. If ur not 5'11" or taller you would be cut in this area from boys high school basketball.

So 12 year olds are in HS where you live? :doh!:

Coach
05-27-2008, 12:31 PM
I guess if there is NO girls teams in the area then yes, maybe.. And is this for the school or league ball?? League ball does not follow highschool and college rules for equality..

League or no league, it's still discrimination. If those boys are afraid of losing to the big gal, well then that's on them. Obviously they need to either toughen up, or walk the **** away.

Sully
05-27-2008, 01:30 PM
There were girls wrestling back when I was in high school. I remember some girl from another team came and wrestled in a Varsity tournament against us, and the guy from our school set a record for quickest pin. That was in '93.
I went up to my high school this past winter, and his record still stands.

I have no problem with girls playing any boys sport, so long as the rules are the same for them.

manchambo
05-27-2008, 06:40 PM
I don't buy that she's scoring all those points because they treat her different. That could account for the first, say 5-10 points. After that the girl thing goes right out the window and anybody with stones would start to guard her, probably harder than usual, to stop being embarrassed.

The real issue here is that the boys can't stop her from putting up 30 points. If that's true, she could put up 60 in a girl's game, and it wouldn't be any fun for her. Why shouldn't she be able to play against the best competition available?

Rain Man
05-27-2008, 06:56 PM
Future cock blocker.

I was about to ask if that was a photoshop, but then I started looking at the background.

RustShack
05-27-2008, 06:58 PM
She could just play for the girls BBall team in middle school like all the other girls...

kstater
05-27-2008, 07:01 PM
She could just play for the girls BBall team in middle school like all the other girls...

How would her parents get their 15 minutes then?

Valiant
05-27-2008, 08:10 PM
League or no league, it's still discrimination. If those boys are afraid of losing to the big gal, well then that's on them. Obviously they need to either toughen up, or walk the **** away.

Well isn't that the point of IX?? That girls have equal opportunity to play sports?? If there is a league for girls in the area then there is no discrimination, because they have their own league..

I am not arguing against anything else, just pointing out this does not fall under Title IX because there is equal opportunity for her to play the sport and it seems to be league ball which does not fall under Title IX also..


As for discrimination, yeah there seems to be some.. Some people are not comfortable playing with girls.. The only thing I can think of is they are weird or afraid they will hurt one, or maybe just sexist.. But, they are sandy gina's for being afraid of their boys losing to a girl.. Especially since the girl it seems has been playing against the same competition for years.. I am guessing she had a growth spurt this past year which turned her into a powerhouse and some teams tried to bust out a overlooked rule to get her gone so they could win..

My volleyball team depending on the league is coed or all guys.. A couple of our better players will notch it down when playing girls.. Me I do not care, if I get the chance to put if off your face I will.. Especially if you are talking shit.. But a couple of our guys will not spike on girls, it makes it a lot harder to win when you don't play to your ability..

Valiant
05-27-2008, 08:23 PM
I don't buy that she's scoring all those points because they treat her different. That could account for the first, say 5-10 points. After that the girl thing goes right out the window and anybody with stones would start to guard her, probably harder than usual, to stop being embarrassed.

The real issue here is that the boys can't stop her from putting up 30 points. If that's true, she could put up 60 in a girl's game, and it wouldn't be any fun for her. Why shouldn't she be able to play against the best competition available?

I am going to guess because it will not last into HS, once the boys hit their growth spurt and start to shut her down.. Hypothetically if she was good enough to score 30 a game at the varsity boys level she will be playing in the guys side, I would think..

On this, we had Betty Lennox at our school when I was there.. She was WNBA rookie of the year and MVP, they had an awesome girls team with her.. It did not stop the JV boys from putting a whooping on her team..


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Sidenote..

This past year in tennis they finally gave womens tennis equal money for winning the trophies.. I am all for fairness, but shouldn't they have to win 3 out of 5 like the guys to get the equal money??? If I were the guys I would be bitching to play less sets and win 2 out 3.. It would cut back on injuries.. and be fair..

The guys should get more money if they are playing more sets in the event.. They have to play 33% more sets just to get equal pay on winning??

Cntrygal
05-27-2008, 09:40 PM
Sorry about the screwed up link!

The way I read it... I didn't think that this was a school team - but some kind of league thing - that she's been playing in for years...... After all the coach says, "I never saw the rule," said Abraham, who has coached basketball for 32 years.

"If I'd known about it, I wouldn't have put any of my teams in the league. Besides, she's been playing on this team since second grade, and she plays on our team when we travel around the region. There's never been any problem in any event, not one word of complaint."

Personally, I think she should be allowed to play and the parents should STFU. Because that's who I'd bet is upset... not the other kids.

If this was a school program and there was a boys and a girls team.... and there was a rule in place saying no mixing of genders - "then boys play with boys and girls play with girls". :evil: