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Tribal Warfare
06-09-2008, 05:28 PM
http://www.cjonline.com/stories/060808/chi_287964340.shtml


Dorsey will roam free in KC
Rookie looks to break loose in Chiefs D-line
By Rick Dean
The Capital-Journal
Published Sunday, June 08, 2008

KANSAS CITY, Mo. He won every major defensive award and interior lineman trophy available in college football. Better yet, defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey led LSU to the ultimate trophy, the one awarded to the BCS national champion.

But even after all the acclaim Dorsey received as a collegian, his new boss dares to dream of even bigger accomplishments waiting for the Kansas City Chiefs' first-round draft pick.


"Fans and media might not always recognize how well he played with the handcuffs he sometimes had to play under," said Chiefs defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham.

Handcuffs?

If Dorsey was handcuffed in Baton Rouge, he became Houdini in escaping to record 69 tackles, 12 of them for losses, with seven sacks in his final LSU season despite playing with a severe knee sprain after Auburn caught him in a vicious chop block.

Handcuffs?

That's Cunningham's way of describing a college defensive system in which a hard-to-move tackle like the 297-pound Dorsey often is asked to plug two defensive gaps, or tie up more than one opposing blocker so that a Tiger teammate is free to make the tackle.

"That's not to say anything negative about LSU," Cunningham said. "They have to play a different game (in college), and they do it very, very well."

In Cunningham's vision, though, Glenn Dorsey will play with the cuffs off.

Surprised to find the most decorated defender in college football falling to their No. 5 draft position, the Chiefs now are planning ways to turn Dorsey loose to wreak havoc in opposing backfields in both pass rush and run defense.

"He played a lot of two-gap schemes (in college), a lot of read-and-react," Cunningham said. "But what we'll go for is penetration at the snap.

"The times I saw him do that on film, he was always in the backfield, always making he play. But it was only a small percentage of plays he got to do that. I rarely saw him with the freedom to just cut it loose. On third down they were like position rushers who kept the pocket tight and didn't let the quarterback run, which you have to do in college.

"But in the NFL you go for penetration, make the quarterback move, disrupt his setup. Everything we do fits the things he wasn't allowed to do. But we believe he can do all of that."

Cunningham's one-gap scheme is exactly what Dorsey was hoping to see in his first NFL season.

"I've done both (two-gap and one-gap) at LSU, and you have to be able to do both to get the job done," he said. "But in a one-gap scheme, you can run loose and try to get upfield and create havoc in the backfield. You even get your name in the papers sometimes.

"I'm looking forward to that opportunity."

What the Chiefs are hoping for is the kind of up-the-middle pass rush that will compensate for the loss of Jared Allen's outside pressure. They haven't had an effective inside push since the days of Dan Saleaumua and Joe Phillips in the mid- to late 1990s, and Lord knows they've tried to replace it numerous times in the decade since. Draft busts from Ryan Sims to Junior Siavii and even once-productive veterans like Chester McGlockton have failed to give Kansas City the pocket pressure necessary.

Initial reports from spring workouts are positive, but spring reports always are.

Still, Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters already is talking about how tough it is to move Dorsey, whose lower body strength is his biggest asset. And defensive end Tamba Hali already feels the benefit of playing next to Dorsey in his new position at right defensive end, Allen's old position.

"Glenn is just a beast," Hali said. "He can take over a game from that position, especially if a team is trying to run.

"I think he'll give us some different ways to rush the passer and stop the run."

Don't diminish the last part of that statement. The Chiefs, remember, were 28th against the run last year. Pocket pressure isn't a worry if a team is running at will. Dorsey must still be solid in his one-gap responsibilities against the run, but he'll also be free to attack upfield when he senses pass.

"People already have compared him to a guy I don't want to name," said Cunningham, reluctant to make the Warren Sapp comparison just yet. "But, they have the same quick hands. The first day after practice I looked at (Dorsey's) tape and thought, 'There it is.' His hands get off the ground so quickly and into the opponent, that's why he dominates.

"What we're looking for is the next step, and we saw a lot of snaps that said he's ready to do that."

CoMoChief
06-09-2008, 05:37 PM
Gunther's a dumbass.


Having that said Dorsey should dominate in this league very soon.

kstater
06-09-2008, 05:38 PM
Saw the headline and had visions of him playing safety.

Uncle_Ted
06-09-2008, 05:42 PM
Gunther rules.

Watching Dorsey wreak havoc up the middle should be one of our few bright spots this season ... I can't wait!

ILWarpaint
06-09-2008, 05:50 PM
Gunther's a dumbass.


Having that said Dorsey should dominate in this league very soon.

What exactly makes him a "dumb ass" genious?

JASONSAUTO
06-09-2008, 05:55 PM
IMO gunther is on of the best d minds in the nfl

FAX
06-09-2008, 05:57 PM
Every year, Gunther says we're going to do "this" or do "that" on defense. Never does he mention stuff like we're going to fold like an origami addict in the 4th quarter or that Ty Law is going to set the record for falling on his ass on third down. I've learned to take what Gunther says with a grain of salt.

Still, I'm looking forward to Dorsey's play. And, it's a darn shame that JA won't be lining up with him. That would have been the makings of a great D-line.

FAX

Tribal Warfare
06-09-2008, 06:00 PM
IMO gunther is on of the best d minds in the nfl




Dude, you better share what you've been smokin

Rain Man
06-09-2008, 06:07 PM
Saw the headline and had visions of him playing safety.

I think Gunther said at the OTAs that it was just an experiment, and that he would probably move back to the defensive line at training camp.

Reerun_KC
06-09-2008, 06:09 PM
Reminds me of when DT was supposed to play the "falcon" position and roam behind the line like a mad man... Well that never happened...

LMAO

Warrior5
06-09-2008, 06:11 PM
If this really happens...

I fully expect the Return of Gaz.

keg in kc
06-09-2008, 06:23 PM
Hopefully even Gun can't screw this one up.

mikey23545
06-09-2008, 06:32 PM
Reminds me of when DT was supposed to play the "falcon" position and roam behind the line like a mad man... Well that never happened...

LMAO

I have never seen you make one positive statement about the Chiefs.

You have got to be the most gaping, bleeding c#nt I have ever seen.

Spicy McHaggis
06-09-2008, 06:40 PM
Every year, Gunther says we're going to do "this" or do "that" on defense.

Gun's offseason comments pretty much follow the "Last year, we didn't have "Player X". Now we have "Player X". So we're going to rock."

----or-----

"Last year this Player Z did "this". But, you see, he wasn't very good at "that". So this year he's going to do "this". So we're going to rock."

DT58HOF
06-09-2008, 06:52 PM
Hopefully even Gun can't screw this one up.
don't worry Herm will screw it up before Gun gets the chance!!

CoMoChief
06-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Gun's offseason comments pretty much follow the "Last year, we didn't have "Player X". Now we have "Player X". So we're going to rock."

----or-----

"Last year this Player Z did "this". But, you see, he wasn't very good at "that". So this year he's going to do "this". So we're going to rock."

This seasons excuse is that we didn't have Jared Allen.

CoMoChief
06-09-2008, 07:19 PM
IMO gunther is on of the best d minds in the nfl

You are probably the only one on this board that thinks that.

smittysbar
06-09-2008, 07:43 PM
IMO gunther is on of the best d minds in the nfl

ROFL

StcChief
06-09-2008, 07:46 PM
This seasons excuse is that we didn't have Jared Allen.
If we get a draft like 2008, I'm All in

Tribal Warfare
06-09-2008, 08:51 PM
This seasons excuse is that we didn't have Jared Allen.

So far the company line is inexperience

Chiefaholic
06-09-2008, 09:17 PM
With the number of first and second year players starting, we'll go though growing pains. But, if the draft "experts" are even half right, we have the mold of one hell of a defense 2-3 years down the road. And if you think this team is "fixed" after this last draft, you're just kidding yourselves. We were old or lacking talent at more positions than one draft could fix.