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Kerberos
06-12-2008, 06:54 AM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2008/06/12/a_hard_guy_to_surprise/



A hard guy to surprise
Jun 12, 2008, 3:29:59 AM by Jonathan Rand - FAQ


The 2008 Chiefs and Herm Edwards are an interesting match – a team promising one surprise after another and a coach who insists that nothing surprises him.

That’s what you get when you pair a coach who’s seen a lot of the NFL, as a cornerback and a coach, with players who are finding every day an eye-opener.

Edwards may or may not always like what he sees of his young team. But he won’t be caught by surprise.

“I’m not surprised about anything,” he said as off-season workouts neared an end.

“I wake up every morning knowing there are going to be five things that happen to you that you have no control over and don’t know are going to happen. Why should it surprise you?”

The past two seasons have only reinforced that outlook. Since taking over the Chiefs, Edwards has already seen more than his fair share of what most of us would consider surprising.

His first Chiefs team squeaked into the playoffs on the final weekend, despite an 0-2 start and a scenario that required them to win their final game and for three other contenders to lose.

Edwards claims that long-shot ending did not surprise him. He maintains his team achieved just enough to deserve a playoff spot before running out of gas in a wild-card game at Indianapolis.

Then the 2007 Chiefs got off to another 0-2 start and won four of their next five games to jump into contention before losing their last nine games. How could anybody not be surprised by that?

“Going into the season, you knew we were rolling the dice a little bit with the team we had,” Edwards said, referring to an aging offense and a defense that remained a work in progress.

“A lot of things had to go right. Early on, they went right for us, but every week I knew, in my heart of hearts, ‘Hey, things have to continue to go right or things will start going the other way.’ And it’s sad that they did.”

Edwards will start his third season facing even more unknowns than ever. His past two rosters were heavily laden with proven veterans, though he wasn’t sure how much longer they could play at a winning level. Now, he can’t be positive if or when his current group will attain a winning level. But he’s leaning toward optimism.

Edwards has drafted a dozen players and says he has room for all, if they show him enough talent. Like any coach, he cautions that you shouldn’t read too much into the rookies’ practice-field performances because they won’t put on pads until training camp.

Yet he also goes out on a limb by suggesting that the vast majority of his rookies will get the chance to make an immediate contribution.

“They’re what we thought they were gonna be,” Edwards said as the OTAs neared an end.

“Some of these guys are a little bit better than we thought they’d be at this point in time. When they put the pads on, it’s a whole different ballgame because we’ll find out who’s physical, and who’s not. We’ve got a young crop of players that is very good.

“They’ve got past Phase One, but I think they can play and, you know what? We’re all gonna watch them play. We didn’t draft them to let them sit and wait two years. It doesn’t matter if you’re a rookie draft choice or rookie free agent. If you’re good enough to make this team and you dress on Sunday, you’re gonna play.”

cookster50
06-12-2008, 07:14 AM
You have to have intelligence to ever be surprised. I'm not surprised that Hermy is never surprised.

King_Chief_Fan
06-12-2008, 07:18 AM
Edwards was not surprised that he squeaked in and that the Colts were going to kick his arse. Wow, he is more insightgul than I give him credit for. and he was not surprised that he could not repeat the luck of 2006. again wow.

InChiefsHell
06-12-2008, 07:31 AM
"I really have nothing to write about, so here's some more ridiculous fluff..."/Rand

tomahawk kid
06-12-2008, 07:31 AM
The lengths some people will go on this board to b!tch about Herm and question his intelligence is truly remarkable.

King_Chief_Fan
06-12-2008, 07:36 AM
The lengths some people will go on this board to b!tch about Herm and question his intelligence is truly remarkable.

It really isn't that hard or stretch at all. He makes it sooooooo easy.

tomahawk kid
06-12-2008, 08:56 AM
It really isn't that hard or stretch at all. He makes it sooooooo easy.

If by "easy" you mean taking sh!t out of context to have something negative to post, then I suppose you're right........

Farzin
06-12-2008, 08:58 AM
Yesterday he was asked (by Rhonda) what is he will do if it rains tomorrow (today.) And Herm would not say, but then he said "It's good to be surprised."

King_Chief_Fan
06-12-2008, 08:59 AM
If by "easy" you mean taking sh!t out of context to have something negative to post, then I suppose you're right........

that is your opinion.......I have mine

StcChief
06-12-2008, 09:15 AM
Yesterday he was asked (by Rhonda) what is he will do if it rains tomorrow (today.) And Herm would not say, but then he said "It's good to be surprised."indoor facility and lock the door to the media, until better questions appeared.

boogblaster
06-12-2008, 09:50 AM
The Chiefs will start the season wearing red and white that will not be a surprise ....

Deberg_1990
06-12-2008, 09:53 AM
Ill bet Herm is surpised when his team scores more than 21 points.

Skip Towne
06-12-2008, 10:12 AM
I've seen enough of Herm's dumb stunts that I'm not surprised by anything he does.

Easy 6
06-12-2008, 10:47 AM
Whats WOW to me...is how fashionable it is to murder Herm.

Despite the legit gripes, i think we're finally moving in the right direction & Herms a BIG part of that...the return of good drafting, steering us away from the years & years of relying on overpriced old vets & other tired formulas, to name one.

I think Herms bearing too much of the compounding weight left by every non-Super Bowl winner coach in KC.

We're finally going Forward IMO :arrow:

tomahawk kid
06-12-2008, 10:55 AM
Whats WOW to me...is how fashionable it is to murder Herm.

Despite the legit gripes, i think we're finally moving in the right direction & Herms a BIG part of that...the return of good drafting, steering us away from the years & years of relying on overpriced old vets & other tired formulas, to name one.

I think Herms bearing too much of the compounding weight left by every non-Super Bowl winner coach in KC.

We're finally going Forward IMO :arrow:

Exactly my thoughts.

People like to take pot shots, but I'd like to know what they'd have him change from the current course of the franchise.

Skip Towne
06-12-2008, 10:58 AM
Exactly my thoughts.

People like to take pot shots, but I'd like to know what they'd have him change from the current course of the franchise.

He could start with breaking the 9 game losing streak.

Fish
06-12-2008, 11:07 AM
Herm is solely responsible for the Holocaust. And he invented AIDS....

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-12-2008, 11:10 AM
Herm is solely responsible for the Holocaust. And he invented AIDS....

He also retired roaf and shields AND gave trent a concusion!!!

Skip Towne
06-12-2008, 11:54 AM
He also retired roaf and shields AND gave trent a concusion!!!

Get over it. It's life. It happens.

picasso
06-12-2008, 01:34 PM
Exactly my thoughts.

People like to take pot shots, but I'd like to know what they'd have him change from the current course of the franchise.

Do you realize that he has yet to win a game with the makings of a team in that current course of the franchise? We suck ass. Youth isn't going to make us better if the coaching sucks. To hell with Herm I am putting this team on Gaileys back and saying please win us a game, ONE game!!!

eazyb81
06-12-2008, 01:39 PM
Whats WOW to me...is how fashionable it is to murder Herm.

Despite the legit gripes, i think we're finally moving in the right direction & Herms a BIG part of that...the return of good drafting, steering us away from the years & years of relying on overpriced old vets & other tired formulas, to name one.

I think Herms bearing too much of the compounding weight left by every non-Super Bowl winner coach in KC.

We're finally going Forward IMO :arrow:

No kidding, but there will always be dumbasses on here that continue to whine about him and question his intelligence.

Oh well, after the last two drafts it looks like we are finally rebuilding the right way. I am pumped about this season, it should be a good building block.

tomahawk kid
06-12-2008, 01:59 PM
He could start with breaking the 9 game losing streak.

People seem to forget that he lost 75% of his offense when LJ went down.

Going into the last season, everyone agreed that the Chiefs would go as far as LJ took them.

However, when LJ did indeed get injured - everyone was acted shocked and outraged we didn't win another game.

Couple that with the fact that we were going through a half hearted rebuilding effort thanks for King Carl and you have a perfect recipe for a nine game losing streak.

Herm put lipstick on a pig in 2006 and made the play-offs with an average team; and every fickle Chiefs fan cried to the heavens when he couldn't do the same in 2007 without his best offensive weapon, a crumbling O-Line and 2 corners who suddenly hit a wall.

Tell me this - what would you have done differently during last season or since last season?

Consistent1
06-12-2008, 02:00 PM
Herm might be a guy you could quickly surprise with more than 6 inches.

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-12-2008, 02:04 PM
People seem to forget that he lost 75% of his offense when LJ went down.

Going into the last season, everyone agreed that the Chiefs would go as far as LJ took them.

However, when LJ did indeed get injured - everyone was acted shocked and outraged we didn't win another game.

Couple that with the fact that we were going through a half hearted rebuilding effort thanks for King Carl and you have a perfect recipe for a nine game losing streak.

Herm put lipstick on a pig in 2006 and made the play-offs with an average team; and every fickle Chiefs fan cried to the heavens when he couldn't do the same in 2007 without his best offensive weapon, a crumbling O-Line and 2 corners who suddenly hit a wall.

Tell me this - what would you have done differently during last season or since last season?

They can't. This team was headed down the crapper last season regardless who the coach was. This team was built for the short term under Vermeil and failed miserably. No depth whatsoever.

Easy 6
06-12-2008, 02:08 PM
No kidding, but there will always be dumbasses on here that continue to whine about him and question his intelligence.

Oh well, after the last two drafts it looks like we are finally rebuilding the right way. I am pumped about this season, it should be a good building block.

I've yet to nominate him for Coach of the Year, but this team was decrepit & crumbling before our very eyes when he arrived...the bottom was going to fall out no matter who came in.

Though we kinda lucked into the playoffs in 06, getting even that far was an example of team overachievement & that credit goes to coaching.

Some people are always going to dwell on negatives & i dont give tinkers damn...i like where its headed....he's trying to bring tough D back, he's drafting well, he wants youth on the field, he wants to develop a QB instead of renting one.

Theres NOTHING not to like about any of that.

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-12-2008, 02:11 PM
I've yet to nominate him for Coach of the Year, but this team was decrepit & crumbling before our very eyes when he arrived...the bottom was going to fall out no matter who came in.

Though we kinda lucked into the playoffs in 06, getting even that far was an example of team overachievement & that credit goes to coaching.

Some people are always going to dwell on negatives & i dont give tinkers damn...i like where its headed....he's trying to bring tough D back, he's drafting well, he wants youth on the field, he wants to develop a QB instead of renting one.

Theres NOTHING not to like about any of that.

Heck i don't even really like Herm myself, but some of this crap being spewed by the haters is just mindboggingly stupid. The same people saying that also say how we have the least talented team in the league. Well it's kind of hard for any coach to win if the team blows. Carl Peterson deserves all the hate he gets, but Herm has been here only 2 years and draws just as much hate.

tomahawk kid
06-12-2008, 02:15 PM
Do you realize that he has yet to win a game with the makings of a team in that current course of the franchise? We suck ass. Youth isn't going to make us better if the coaching sucks. To hell with Herm I am putting this team on Gaileys back and saying please win us a game, ONE game!!!


Ok.... set down the Busch Light and explain your point one more time.....this time in English.......

tomahawk kid
06-12-2008, 02:25 PM
They can't. This team was headed down the crapper last season regardless who the coach was. This team was built for the short term under Vermeil and failed miserably. No depth whatsoever.

THAT's what I'm sick of.

I know every fan base has their share of borderline brain dead individuals, but I swear to God we have more than average.

I don't know how some of these morons find the mental capacity to operate the keyboard they chickenpeck posts on.........

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-12-2008, 02:29 PM
THAT's what I'm sick of.

I know every fan base has their share of borderline brain dead individuals, but I swear to God we have more than average.

I don't know how some of these morons find the mental capacity to operate the keyboard they chickenpeck posts on.........

It has everything to do with Herm's conservative nature as coach. It is frustrating at times. We want the high flying offense of the vermiel day. Heck I miss it too, but those days died once roaf and shields got old and Trent's brain got turned to mush. Seriously how great of an offense do you expect with damon huard at quarterback for most of the last 2 years with guys like jordan black, kyle turley, and chris terry manning the tackle positions???? I'm not saying coaching isn't PART of the problem, but this offense was doomed regardless.

tomahawk kid
06-12-2008, 02:38 PM
It has everything to do with Herm's conservative nature as coach. It is frustrating at times. We want the high flying offense of the vermiel day. Heck I miss it too, but those days died once roaf and shields got old and Trent's brain got turned to mush. Seriously how great of an offense do you expect with damon huard at quarterback for most of the last 2 years with guys like jordan black, kyle turley, and chris terry manning the tackle positions???? I'm not saying coaching isn't PART of the problem, but this offense was doomed regardless.

That offense was fun to watch, no doubt about it.

But - you know what?

It won us exactly as many playoff games as Herm has so far.

Rausch
06-12-2008, 02:42 PM
That offense was fun to watch, no doubt about it.

But - you know what?

It won us exactly as many playoff games as Herm has so far.

Herm's first year he tied DV's playoff appearances...

cookster50
06-12-2008, 02:52 PM
This is sweet, all these people on high horses saying if you disagree with their assessment, you are stupid, brain dead, moronic, etc. Yeah, way to go!

tomahawk kid
06-12-2008, 03:16 PM
This is sweet, all these people on high horses saying if you disagree with their assessment, you are stupid, brain dead, moronic, etc. Yeah, way to go!

I just want to know what anyone would do differently from Herm.

I know, let's patchwork together a line with some over the hill talent, sign a expensive QB (preferably from San Francisco) that's past his prime and make one more run at this thing.....

I mean, it's done well for us in the past........

blueballs
06-12-2008, 03:21 PM
I would swear I read this same article and quotes
a week ago