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Count Alex's Losses
06-12-2008, 11:07 PM
Today was a very short practice.

http://kan.scout.com/2/761866.html

ST. JOSEPH, MO - With the 2008 OTA sessions officially over after Thursday’s practice at Missouri Western State University, Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards begins preparations for training camp in River Falls. What did he learn about his football team over the last month?

“We’ve got some talent,” Edwards said after Thursday’s practice. “I think we’ve got camaraderie, which I like. I think you have to have that. There is no ego; everyone is kind of on the same level right now. I think everyone understands it’s just about us; it’s about nobody else right now.”

Because of that, after the final session was over it was apparent Edwards is relaxed and at peace – at least for the moment. It’s been a long run for the man who is now entering his third year as head coach of the Chiefs.

We can’t lose sight that the transformation ahead has one goal - win the division and get into the tournament, where every NFL fan knows anything is possible. Just ask last year’s Super Bowl winner, the New York Giants, who conquered three opponents on the road in the playoffs.

I’m not going to preach that this year’s team is ready for that kind of run, because they’re not. Nobody believes the 2008 Chiefs will win anything significant this season.

But this year does represent the first stepping stone to something potentially great. That’s what Edwards believes as he heads into Friday’s meetings to determine which 12 players will be cut.

As the team signs each draft pick, as they did Wednesday with the signing of fifth-round pick Brandon Carr (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3724379), they’ll have to release a player. With the training camp limit of 80 players looming, roster spots are priceless. Teams can’t afford to make mistakes, and Edwards knows the dropoff in talent from spot #40 to #80 isn’t huge.

There’s a good chance each of KC’s 12 draft picks make the roster. The only exception might be tight end Michael Merritt (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3724953), who didn’t take the field in OTAs due to an injury.

Regardless of which players get cut in the coming days, we know Edwards and his coordinators, Chan Gailey and Gunther Cunningham, will put together starting lineups that place the best players on the field. That hasn’t always happened in Kansas City over the last several years.


Final OTA Notes:

RB Jamaal Charles (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723954) - He kicked it into another gear in practice today. The synthetic turf at Spratt Stadium probably had something to do with it. A reporter who covered Charles at Texas told me he put ball on the ground too much in college, but I didn’t see any of that the last few weeks. Charles should give second-year man Kolby Smith (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698874) a run for his money for the top backup job.

WR Bobby Sippio (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698873) - Today was one of his better days, and he’s beginning to emerge as someone who’s determined to make the roster. He’s still a long shot but there isn’t anyone who can criticize his hands. The one thing Sippio’s had to do, because he’s not blessed with great speed, is run precise routes. He might have been the most improved route runner in OTAs. Today he also signed every single autograph possible for the fans in St. Joseph, and didn’t stop signing until he hit the team bus.

WR Will Franklin (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=2974804) - Like Sippio, he had a great day. I’ve been impressed with him the last few weeks, and with the questions at wide receiver, someone needed to emerge. He’s in a dogfight with Devard Darling (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3263025) for the number two slot, but I don’t think this competition will be decided anytime soon. There were questions about Franklin’s hands coming out, but I’ve seen him drop only two passes through the OTA sessions.

DE Turk McBride (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698864) - The more I see him play the more I like what he’s becoming. Herm Edwards said the Chiefs will miss Jared Allen (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3716719), but if McBride, who spent a lot of time under Allen’s wing a year ago, can continue to mature on the field, he’s going to give Edwards a difficult decision to make in regards to the starting lineup. Right now McBride is the left defensive end in the nickel package, but he could see more playing time.

SS DaJuan Morgan (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3723961) - He has skyrocketed up the charts, and in my opinion he’s already ahead of Bernard Pollard (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=3698871) for a starting spot. I would not be surprised come training camp if Pollard plays with the second-unit defense more than the first team. Clark Hunt told me he really likes Morgan – now all he has to do is sign him.

Quick Hits:

The St. Joe Crowd - About 4,000 people showed up and their enthusiasm was rewarded as the players spent plenty of time signing autographs after practice. I think you’ll see the Chiefs hold similar events quite often over the next couple of seasons. It’s important they move around the states of Missouri and Kansas so more fans can reach out and touch the team.

Mitch Holthus - The Voice of the Chiefs and I had a few lengthy conversations the last few weeks. He’s as excited about this group of draft picks and young players as I am. Yes, we’re drinking out of the same pitcher of Kool-Aid, but as two people fortunate enough to watch the team regularly in the offseason, we both believe the 2008 Chiefs will win more games than they did a year ago.

Looking for the rest of this offseason's OTA Reports? The full archive is listed below.

Wednesday, June 11 practice (http://kan.scout.com/2/761518.html)

Sunday, June 8 practice (http://kan.scout.com/2/760643.html)

Saturday, June 7 practice (http://kan.scout.com/2/760460.html)

Friday, June 6 practice (http://kan.scout.com/2/760293.html)

Tuesday, June 3 practice (http://kan.scout.com/2/759711.html)

Thursday, May 29 practice (http://kan.scout.com/2/758325.html)

Tuesday, May 28 practice (http://kan.scout.com/2/757819.html)

Thursday, May 22 practice (http://kan.scout.com/2/756874.html)

Uncle_Ted
06-12-2008, 11:46 PM
Thanks for the article.

In your conversations with Mitch, have you ever been tempted to tell him just how effing stupid his "Centaur" nickname is for LJ?

Count Alex's Losses
06-12-2008, 11:47 PM
Thanks for the article.

In your conversations with Mitch, have you ever been tempted to tell him just how effing stupid his "Centaur" nickname is for LJ?

I've had one conversation with Mitch. Nick (the author) has had dozens. I don't know how he feels about "Centaur," but it's not horrible IMO.

Easy 6
06-12-2008, 11:55 PM
I like hearing that about Scippio Afrikkaner, to hear some people...he's struggled early, but he sounds like a guy who's not at all ready to give up... & doing all he can to stick around.

You just know Bowes eggin' him on, wanting him to be on the team.

I love 'Long Road' stories.

Pablo
06-12-2008, 11:58 PM
I'm inclined to agree with the statement that Franklin may have a legit chance at being the number two reciever. It kind of pains me to see a Tiger doing so well, and at times I almost don't want to root for him, but he really surprised me today. Webb was the most blah of the three possible no. 2/3 WR's. He made some good catches, showed some good speed, but I was far more impressed with Franklin. I suppose I think Webb's experience counts for something, when in reality it doesn't make a bit of difference.

Count Alex's Losses
06-12-2008, 11:59 PM
I'm inclined to agree with the statement that Franklin may have a legit chance at being the number two reciever. It kind of pains me to see a Tiger doing so well, and at times I almost don't want to root for him, but he really surprised me today. Webb was the most blah of the three possible no. 2/3 WR's. He made some good catches, showed some good speed, but I was far more impressed with Franklin. I suppose I think Webb's experience counts for something, when in reality it doesn't make a bit of difference.

I'd say it makes a difference when they're playing the real game.

How fast does Franklin look? Are they jamming guys at the line?

Pablo
06-12-2008, 11:59 PM
And Kolby Smith is in trouble for the no. 2 RB position. Charles is lightning fast.

RustShack
06-13-2008, 12:02 AM
So your saying theres a chance?

Count Alex's Losses
06-13-2008, 12:03 AM
And Kolby Smith is in trouble for the no. 2 RB position. Charles is lightning fast.

Certainly appears to be that way. I also think the fact that Charles is a much different change of pace to LJ than Kolby is will play in his favor.

Pablo
06-13-2008, 12:03 AM
I'd say it makes a difference when they're playing the real game.

How fast does Franklin look? Are they jamming guys at the line?No, they aren't jamming at the line. He definately lives up to his combine 4.37 at game speed. He definately has the speed/size to be a legit no. 2 target. But I like his mentality when the ball is in the air. Some reciever don't seem to assert that it is their ball, and they have to go up and get it and come down with it. He does. He fought for the ball, and came away with it. He also made a good snag on a Thigpen pass high and a little behind him.

Count Alex's Losses
06-13-2008, 12:04 AM
No, they aren't jamming at the line. He definately lives up to his combine 4.37 at game speed. He definately has the speed/size to be a legit no. 2 target.

I guess we'll see how he handles the bump.

Samie Parker was supposed to be blazing, but never really lived up to the hype. Do you see a difference in Franklin?

Pablo
06-13-2008, 12:05 AM
Certainly appears to be that way. I also think the fact that Charles is a much different change of pace to LJ than Kolby is will play in his favor.Yeah, the only bone I had with Charles was he got kinda pushed around/bullied by the LB's in his short yardage routes. He didn't seem to get off of their jam very well. LJ on the other hand, was throwing everyone out of his way and speeding by.

Count Alex's Losses
06-13-2008, 12:07 AM
Yeah, the only bone I had with Charles was he got kinda pushed around/bullied by the LB's in his short yardage routes. He didn't seem to get off of their jam very well. LJ on the other hand, was throwing everyone out of his way and speeding by.
You're giving me wood.

I still say LJ will be the main option in the passing game because he did a great job catching the ball last year. I bet we see plenty of dual backfields, though. Charles might be better on screens.

Pablo
06-13-2008, 12:08 AM
I guess we'll see how he handles the bump.

Samie Parker was supposed to be blazing, but never really lived up to the hype. Do you see a difference in Franklin?Franklin seems remotely intelligent and humble. Got his autograph and he was talking with some folks around us, seems like a character guy who's ready to put in some work and is truly grateful to have an oppurtunity to compete at this level.

And he seems a whole lot more physical with the DB's. Samie would rather fall down than fight for a ball in the air, Franklin doesn't. He wants the ball. Not with the same sort of intensity Bowe had last year, but he definately goes up and gets any pass thrown his way.

This is coming from a KU fan. He's pretty legit. I guess we'll see at training camp. He definately got a whole lot less snaps than Darling or Webb, and he was playing with the 2nd team offense, but he looked like the real deal.

Count Alex's Losses
06-13-2008, 12:10 AM
Franklin seems remotely intelligent and humble. Got his autograph and he was talking with some folks around us, seems like a character guy who's ready to put in some work and is truly grateful to have an oppurtunity to compete at this level.

And he seems a whole lot more physical with the DB's. Samie would rather fall down than fight for a ball in the air, Franklin doesn't. He wants the ball. Not with the same sort of intensity Bowe had last year, but he definately goes up and gets any pass thrown his way.

This is coming from a KU fan. He's pretty legit. I guess we'll see at training camp. He definately got a whole lot less snaps than Darling or Webb, and he was playing with the 2nd team offense, but he looked like the real deal.

What's exciting is that he's sure to see single coverage with Bowe and Gonzalez out there. Could be a very nice surprise with Brodie's ability to throw it 60 yards effortlessly in his sleep.

Pablo
06-13-2008, 12:12 AM
Yeah, the only bone I had with Charles was he got kinda pushed around/bullied by the LB's in his short yardage routes. He didn't seem to get off of their jam very well. LJ on the other hand, was throwing everyone out of his way and speeding by.

You're giving me wood.

I still say LJ will be the main option in the passing game because he did a great job catching the ball last year. I bet we see plenty of dual backfields, though. Charles might be better on screens.LJ threw a LB out of the way, and took to the outside, and the LB was about 2 feet behind him, but Huard threw up a duck too far outside and LJ had to adjust the route, and the LB caught back up and hip-checked Larry as the ball was coming down, but he kept his balance and made a juggling one-hand catch and kept both his feet in, and headed to the endzone by the time the LB had lost his balance from the hip-check. This was right in front of us..he was about 7 yards away.

Then he threw off another LB and caught an over the shoulder floater in stride.

AustinChief
06-13-2008, 12:26 AM
ST. JOSEPH, MO - With the 2008 OTA sessions officially over after Thursday’s practice at Western Missouri State University,

Seriously? Christ. I stopped reading at this point. Why bother reading when you can't even get the damn school right. Did he talk about Franklin from Missouri University? Or Michael Merrit from Florida Central University.

I am usually the last guy to criticize, but that is just awful... How do you write that and HOW IN HELL does no one catch it before publication?

Count Alex's Losses
06-13-2008, 12:28 AM
Ouch. Thanks for the heads up.

Missouri Western State University it is.

Pablo
06-13-2008, 12:28 AM
Seriously? Christ. I stopped reading at this point. Why bother reading when you can't even get the damn school right. Did he talk about Franklin from Missouri University? Or Michael Merrit from Florida Central University.

I am usually the last guy to criticize, but that is just awful... How do you write that and HOW IN HELL does no one catch it before publication?Yeah, it's Missouri Western State University, but it's a pretty small school, plenty of folks get it wrong. Doesn't surprise me, and I'm a student there.

Easy 6
06-13-2008, 12:34 AM
What's exciting is that he's sure to see single coverage with Bowe and Gonzalez out there. Could be a very nice surprise with Brodie's ability to throw it 60 yards effortlessly in his sleep.

AAARRRGGGHHH!...DEATH TO NONBELIEVERS!...60 YARD SLEEPERS!

Count Alex's Losses
06-13-2008, 12:35 AM
AAARRRGGGHHH!...DEATH TO NONBELIEVERS!...60 YARD SLEEPERS!

I really want to make a Brodie Croyle highlight film...with the tagline SKIN THAT SMOKEWAGON!

Easy 6
06-13-2008, 12:39 AM
I really want to make a Brodie Croyle highlight film...with the tagline SKIN THAT SMOKEWAGON!

The materials will be here soon...

Just look at that Spiderman perfect form in my av.

Count Alex's Losses
06-13-2008, 12:42 AM
Looks like Brodie's bringing back the chin spinach.

http://www.gogriffons.com/images/gallery/Event%20vs.%20ChiefsOTA6-12-08/DSC_0790.JPG

Easy 6
06-13-2008, 12:45 AM
Looks like Brodie's bringing back the chin spinach.

http://www.gogriffons.com/images/gallery/Event%20vs.%20ChiefsOTA6-12-08/DSC_0790.JPG

Good...no shave 'til a win in dinveer.

His right forearm looks like it belongs to a Silverback Gorilla.

Count Alex's Losses
06-13-2008, 12:47 AM
This photo is hilarious in many ways.

http://www.gogriffons.com/images/gallery/Event%20vs.%20ChiefsOTA6-12-08/DSC_0914.JPG

Easy 6
06-13-2008, 12:58 AM
This photo is hilarious in many ways.

http://www.gogriffons.com/images/gallery/Event%20vs.%20ChiefsOTA6-12-08/DSC_0914.JPG

Brodies oblivious to it all, just gimme the play coach...but Herms listening intently to Coach X's advice & Peter Twist is thinking about joining his charges in the weight room...to rid himself of the Moobs.

Tribal Warfare
06-13-2008, 12:59 AM
Looks like Brodie's bringing back the chin spinach.

http://www.gogriffons.com/images/gallery/Event%20vs.%20ChiefsOTA6-12-08/DSC_0790.JPG

LMAO, Brodie Croyle is striking a pose their

Ugly Duck
06-13-2008, 01:37 AM
You're giving me wood.

That post is useless without pics...

Buehler445
06-13-2008, 07:54 AM
Franklin seems remotely intelligent and humble.




I'm hoping you're right. He didn't play much in hell...errr....MU because they have some talent. Hopefully he recognizes that this is a fantastic opportunity for him and works his balls off to give us a decent receiving corps.

bsp4444
06-13-2008, 09:14 AM
SS DaJuan Morgan - He has skyrocketed up the charts, and in my opinion he’s already ahead of Bernard Pollard for a starting spot. I would not be surprised come training camp if Pollard plays with the second-unit defense more than the first team. Clark Hunt told me he really likes Morgan – now all he has to do is sign him.

Any chance Pollard can be moved to linebacker? Does he have the size?

Molitoth
06-13-2008, 09:54 AM
This photo is hilarious in many ways.

http://www.gogriffons.com/images/gallery/Event%20vs.%20ChiefsOTA6-12-08/DSC_0914.JPG

Lip Curl.

Molitoth
06-13-2008, 09:55 AM
[QUOTE=Claythan;4792168]LJ threw a LB out of the way, and took to the outside, and the LB was about 2 feet behind him, but Huard threw up a duck too far outside and LJ had to adjust the route, and the LB caught back up and hip-checked Larry as the ball was coming down, but he kept his balance and made a juggling one-hand catch and kept both his feet in, and headed to the endzone by the time the LB had lost his balance from the hip-check. This was right in front of us..he was about 7 yards away.

Then he threw off another LB and caught an over the shoulder floater in stride.

That play was sick. I couldn't believe LJ caught that ball.

blueballs
06-13-2008, 10:28 AM
this picture cracks me up
needs to be a caption this thread

Cave Johnson
06-13-2008, 11:17 AM
SS DaJuan Morgan - He has skyrocketed up the charts, and in my opinion he’s already ahead of Bernard Pollard for a starting spot. I would not be surprised come training camp if Pollard plays with the second-unit defense more than the first team. Clark Hunt told me he really likes Morgan – now all he has to do is sign him.

Any chance Pollard can be moved to linebacker? Does he have the size?

He's big enough to play on the outside (basically the same size as Donnie Edwards) but, imo, he's not a big enough hitter. Pollard sorely lacks the coverage skills to play S.

beach tribe
06-13-2008, 11:25 AM
I think Brodie looks a little bigger.

CoMoChief
06-13-2008, 12:04 PM
Pollard is a bigger hitter than Edwards is.

Pollard just whiffs more :)

milkman
06-14-2008, 10:43 AM
That post is useless without pics...

You want a pic of Goatse's wood?

Raider fans are sick bastards.

milkman
06-14-2008, 10:44 AM
He's big enough to play on the outside (basically the same size as Donnie Edwards) but, imo, he's not a big enough hitter. Pollard sorely lacks the coverage skills to play S.

Bonecrusher isn't a big enough hitter?

Deberg_1990
06-14-2008, 02:15 PM
Pollard sounds like the next "Special Teams Superstar" to me. :)

CoMoChief
06-14-2008, 02:47 PM
DEFENSE
DE - Hali
DE - Johnston
DT - Dorsey
DT - Boone
LB - Johnson
LB - Edwards
LB - Williams
CB - Flowers
CB - Surtain
S - Morgan
S - Page

OFFENSE
QB - Croyle
RB - Johnson
WR - Bowe
WR - Franklin
WR - Darling
TE - Gonzalez
OT - Albert
OT - Richardson
OG - Waters
OG - Nuswinger
C - Bentley (I know he's not signed with us.......)

K - Barth
P - Colquitt
KR - Robinson/Sams

milkman
06-14-2008, 04:18 PM
-- LeCharles Bentley Should Have Plenty of Suitors --
Thu Jun 12, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com

The NFL Network reports 28-year-old C LeCharles Bentley, who has been to the Pro Bowl at center and guard, is not expected to be unemployed long. Bentley insists he is healthy, ready to play, ready to return to his Pro Bowl level. If he is, Bently is going to make some team very happy. Almost every team in the league has a need for interior offensive linemen, particularly Arizona, Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Miami, Oakland and Pittsburgh. Bentley would prefer to play guard, but could play center just as easily.

I could live with Bentley at RG and Niswanger at C.